Want Economic Stimulus? Don’t Build a Sports Stadium!
by Warner Todd HustonFor the last few decades sports teams across the country have nosed up to the public trough and demanded that states and cities chip in millions for the construction of new sports stadiums. To justify the public expense the claim has been made that these monstrous construction projects bring a wealth of jobs and spending on entertainment and are a boon to any city that will fund them. But are they? Do these multi-million dollar projects bring such lucrative benefits to the cities and states that pay through the nose for them?

For many years the “economic boom” idea of building stadiums seemed to make sense and city after state pumped billions of taxpayer’s dollars into such projects. But starting in the early 2000s, economists began to have enough data to show that the claims of beneficial end result of building stadiums was not as advertised.
In fact, these days economists that disagree amongst each other about so much have developed a wide consensus based on the belief that sports teams in and of themselves are not great economic engines for a city and that building giant new stadium complexes are not the automatic boon to the area such as they were sold.
The reason that these stadiums are not as great an investment as previously thought is threefold according to Andrew Zimbalist, the Robert A. Woods professor of economics for Smith College and renowned sports economist. Zimbalist spoke in early 2009 to Freakanomics author, Stephen J. Dubner in the pages of The New York Times.
For one thing, Zimbalist says, the money that will be spent on the events held at the new sports arena or stadium is money spent by local residents. This is not new money but money that would simply have been spent on other entertainment in the metropolitan area if the stadium didn’t exist. Secondly, the big money that goes to players, owners and investors does not stay in the area but is invested elsewhere. Third, the city or state is often chipping in up to a third of the continuing costs and this is tax money wasted, not revenue made.
The third point is most important to dwell upon in this time of one of the worst economies in 70 years. “’… in the typical case,’ Zimbalist says, ‘the city and/or state contributes roughly two-thirds of the financing for the facility’s construction and takes on obligations for additional expenditures over time.’”
There are other problems with these projects, as well. For one thing, the jobs created are for the most part low paid, part time and offer no benefits. Because of this “jobs” are not really created by a sports complex. Also, very few ballparks have been much of a boon to surrounding businesses. Few people that attend sports events stay around the area in which the stadium sits to shop, eat, or look for other entertainment. They go to the park and then they leave. About the only thing locals get are traffic nightmares and litter.
Yet, with all these solid negative economic facts on the table, cities and states still flirt with the idea of sinking millions of taxpayer’s money into these projects. Los Angeles, for instance, is discussing a new downtown stadium giving Staple’s Center owner AEG environmental passes and buckets of money in order to “bring back the NFL” to the city.
The entire state of California is over the edge of insolvency, her politicians can’t even agree on a budget to reverse her collapse, yet L.A. wants to spend millions of city, country, and/or state tax dollars on a dubious project for a team they don’t even have. This way lies madness.
So, where is the wisdom in this waste of taxpayer’s money? As Edmund Burke once asked, “what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.” It is clear that these stadium projects are “follies” not worth the expense. If you want a stadium don’t hide behind false claims and warped economics. Just say you want a stadium and everyone will just have to pay through the nose for it. Let’s all drop the false pretense, shall we?






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Does anybody really think that people have the money to spend at places like this? I realize that true blue sports fans will always 'find the money', but the rest of America is just trying to put food on the table!
George W. Bush, whatever his virtues as a Governor and a President, is a crony capitalist. He made his money as a partner in the anti-trust exempt Texas Rangers baseball team playing in its tax-subsidized ballpark. When those partners forced the sale of the now more valuable land around the park, it was the first time in Texas history that government had compelled the sale of real estate from one private citizen to another. Bush probably thinks that the other partners invited him to join in the team ownership because of his business skills, though he had shown little of that up to then. No, he probably thinks the fact that his father was Vice-President had nothing to do with it.
i think it shows how easily politicians can be bought. in chicago the state paid for the new comiskey park. after it was built, nobody really liked it. it was built in 1993. well in 2004 i think it was, the state sold naming rights to it, and it is now us cellular field. so where did the money go for this renaming. they rennovated the park, and spent all the money fixing the park. granted it is better now, but the citizens got nothing for the naming rites on thier staduim. across town we got a new united center, all built with private dollars. they only asked for public money to improve the roads around it. we also have wrigley field, one of, if not the best ball park in the country. it is now owned by the new owners of the cubs. it has never gotten a dime of public money. oh, which park has more seats, comiskey, which park gets more paid fans, wrigley.
always Bush is the root of all evil. Poor Marty, can't get Boooooooooooooosh out of your mind.
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Clinton never did anything wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But Booooooooooooosh = evil, I say EVIL
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i started a new post for the boondoggle in chicago. it was soldier field. the bears used to play at wrigley field, but moved to soldier field in the early 70's. soldier field was never perfect, it had astroturf, then grass. they rebuilt it. they spent outrageous amounts of money to remake it. we have cold weather here. in milwaukee, and houston, both smaller cities than chicago, they have retractable dome staduims. nope, not here. we spent over 650 million bucks, some say over a billion to make soldier field smaller, and look like a spaceship squatting on the lakefront, next to classical styled buildings. all paid from the public. they taxed hotels rooms, rental cars, made these expensve seat contracts. and they saved the columns, to keep its historic landmark status. oh, they had to remove the staus after the spaceship distracted from anything resembling a landmark look. oh yes the chicago fire was there, they moved. so do the math, 10 games a year, 650 million to one billion bucks, what is the payback on this waste of public funds?
Actually, we "small people" have pretty much been priced OUT of major league sports with this latest generation of taxpayer funded stadiums. Ticket prices are insane these days, and don't even think about eating or drinking there.
Before they tore down Riverfront Stadium, I could afford to go to about 10 Reds games a season. In their new ballpark, that's been cut down to an average of 3. And the team hasn't had a winning season in 9 years.
Talk about UNSUSTAINABLE…
The person above is a "troll" and he is likely an Alex Jones fan from prisonplanet.com, everyone one of them talk just like him when it comes to GWB. Prisonplanet.com is a disinformation website that routinely skewers Bush and Reagan for no apparent reason. Alex Jones and his followers are anti-Semites and like to blame Israel for the ills of the world more than they like to blame Bush.
~ carpe diem
oh, ok, I just started poking my head into the conversation at Big*, and I was wondering what kind of reaction I would get. Looks like I pegged this guy right off the bat.
Good article Mr. Huston.
"For the last few decades sports teams across the country have nosed up to the public trough and demanded that states and cities chip in millions for the construction of new sports stadiums. To justify the public expense the claim has been made that these monstrous construction projects bring a wealth of jobs and spending on entertainment and are a boon to any city that will fund them."
Why should we, the taxpayer, the citizens, continue to subsidize atheletes and bad behavior? Why should we continue to subsidize sports team owners? We shouldn't.
great article! and I agree 100%, but there is a bit of irony in it. The photo selected shows Dodger Stadium, one of the very few in MLB that was privately funded and built. (Now before someone blows a gasket, the city of LA did eminent domain Chavez Ravine for the project, which still causes a bit of angst in the community, but other than that no public funds were spent)
Would ahve been nice to actually show a city / state funded project like Nationals field or Coors Field, but oh well…
Why does anyone pay to see NBA NFL MLB games ?
Overpriced players in overpriced stadiums selling
overpriced food.
i can only manage 1 football game a year
My hat is off to you Martin. You actually manage to find a way to compliment Bush ("whatever his virtues as a Governor and a President"), but still find a way to put the man down ("a crony capitalist").
I certainly hope you're not a "crony capitalist" and that you don't buy or sell anything (especially to people you know!), work for a company or own one (especially to people you know!), or in any other way help to make this country great. That would be a shame.
Good point.
Anyone who has been to a game at DS still knows that the premise is the same, no matter how the stadium is built: the community around the stadium is not a place you want to stay around after the game. It's definitely "keep your doors locked" territory. Having a sports stadium in the neighborhood did not improve the neighborhood and it can be argued, it made the neighborhood worse.
Welcome to the BIGs!
You'll start seeing some patterns develop when you dig into the conversations, namely the trolls but also the vitriolic hate filled and racist tenor of troll commentary. They love to masquerade as conservatives as they espouse values counter to conservatism in general as a tool of division. Their primary goal is to paint everyone that makes comments here as racist and to smear Andrew Breitbart in general with their actions. When in doubt look at the point indicator next to their name, if it is "red" and has a negative number, they are very likely to be trolls. Some trolls CAN be reasonable but most insist that you adopt their opinions as your own, 'tipping' as it is better known. Some of the more antagonistic trolls resort to name calling and threats but be aware they cannot hurt you if they have no personal information about you, never share your email with anyone as they are visible to everyone. We all take a little bit of joy in smacking trolls down from time to time but pick your battles wisely.
Not sure if Martin is a troll or not but he's right. Bush was progressive lite. Same as McLame would have been. Was he better than Obama. Well yea, who isn't? Was he better than Clinton? Sometimes. Clinton had the luxury of a conservative congress to push him in the right direction.
Was Bush as good as Regan? There's the question. I think we can all answer NO to that. I don't want Progressive heavy or lite anymore. I don't want Progressive PERIOD! I want an old fashioned Constitutionalist who's willing to disband all the cronyism in place today. Let the market and the American people fix things. The purpose of the Federal Government is to secure the borders, ensure the States play nice, and prevent subsidized foreign goods from reaching our markets with the subsidy in place.
So yea. It's Bush's fault applies here. Along with Obama, Clinton, Bush 1, Carter, Nixon, Ford, Johnson…
And Omaha is in the middle of building a 140 million dollar stadium for the CWS. I love the CWS and know we make money off the event but I can't see how we'll make enough to pay for this monster. At 10 mill per year it's 14 years but that doesn't include maint. costs and the like. We could have gotten the same seating capacity at the Johny for 20 mil.
i believe you meant "Kaminsky Field", you racist.
Progressive lite is no longer an acceptable "option" anymore than heavyweight progressivism, Bush made mistakes, especially in his last two years.
I think he is a troll, he sounds too much like a typical Alex Jones fan to be anything else, blame for blame's sake is the modus operendei, in this case that is exactly what I am seeing
Personally, I have my own opinion of what all these high dollar stadiums should be used for. Saddam Hussein had the right idea. Turn Udai and Koosai loose with a wood chipper and recycle politicians.
I'd pay for that event.
/sarc off
I don't think this guy's a troll. His post count is too positive for that. Typical troll would have compared him to the Talking A$$ Clown (Obama) or Billy. It also didn't smell like a rant. Too many facts for that and the trolls very rarely come armed with ANY information.
I'm willing to cut him some slack cause in this case he's right.
Look. I agreed with Bush on foreign policy. GW's strong point wasn't domestic policy. He picked foreign policy early in his presidency because "HE HAD NO CHOICE!" He responded with a show of strength and the bullshit on our shores stopped. I'll always respect W for that. Domestic policy… Not his strong point.
do NOT get me started on Coors Field or the new Mile High Stadium/Invesco Field/whatever-the-hell-it's-called-now. i was still in Denver during those twin public hosings, and as a non-sports watching taxpayer, my sphincter is still a little sore…
It is damn near impossible to determine how much money from outside the community is coming in because of the new arena/stadium. Short of asking each payer where they are from, it cannot be known. I was part of the crowd that showed Bud Adams the door when he was wanting a new stadium in Houston. My emotions were mixed when Houston landed the franchise that became the Texans, mixed because the Houston team beat out LA but a new stadium was built. My latest touch with this stadium madness was when the city of Wichita, Ks, and Sedgwick County, decided it needed a new arena. What was the sales pitch? Either agree to a 1 cent tax hike to pay for a new arena, or the county will have to raise our property taxes to upgrade the current arena to meet federal laws. Needless to say, they got the tax hike and the new arena, and naturally the government keeps bringing up how much money the arena makes, but what is never said is how much money is brought in that otherwise would not have been spent in Wichita. The most arenas do is shift money around…
…Instead of going to the movies, I may go to a concert/game at the arena. If these buidings were such money makers, why aren't more built using strictly private money? Simple, they don't make money after the shine has worn off, and if the stadium is purpose built, for instance it is a baseball only stadium, it stays empty during the off season. *flush*
Great article! Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for stadiums.
Ask the South Africans and their soccer failure – they spent 7 billion euro on stadiums and infrastructure. The ticket sales however brought only 3.7 billion. Half of the products purchased for the event are being imported.
Big thinkers, community planners, mover/shakers are optimists who operate in an alternate universe.
Their so called reality is always bigger, better, faster. They are accustomed to counteracting the pre-
ponderance of public opinion, which holds varying degrees of skepticism, and outright laziness in matters
of public funding for these projects. If we as the taxpayer do not begin to get involved in the process, to
slow these optimists down, to shake them to reality, they will keep us forever in bankruptcy hell. They have elevated their persuasion skills to an art form, and are able to hornswaggle our local elected/ appointed
officials to see things their way. Time for a dose of reality, IMO.
you know for all the beating you're taking, noones actually addressed your comments about what he did with the rangers, thats usually a sign of truthfulness.
Good job.
Every society has its "Gravin Images" In America that would be professional sports. What was once Americas pass time has become Pass America Cash so men can play kids games while they act like juvinile delinquents. The more taxes esculate it will become evident to even the most ardent fan, that they have been had. When the tax increase slated for later this year, combined with the expiration of the "Bush" tax cuts, that benefited every tax bracket, not just the rich, the sports fan will discouver they no longer have "disposable" income for such trivial pursuits as sporting events, they'll be too busy trying to put food on the table and clothes on their backs.
I'll cut him some slack as you say but his points total is based on a mere ten posts over 40 weeks, its not too hard to get that number with minimal exposure to scrutiny.
I'll hold off my final disposition but I think the writing is on the wall…
When the Thunder was in talks to come to OKC, they said they'd only come if the city spent billions of dollars "updating" our arena (which had been built one a few years before and was the temporary home of the Hornets…who had no complaints about it….) so the city dangled the whole "We HAVE to pass this tax to pay for the arena…or we'll NEVER get a pro sports team…EVER!!!" Built into the "provision" (bribe) was that any money made by the team or owners was tax-free. The Thunder operates at a loss. But try and point that out to anyone and all they say is, "But now we have an NBA team!"
I'm going to have to take your word on the Alex Jones crowd. Never heard of them so maybe I'm the lucky one?
What president didn't make mistakes? As a nation we have a tendency to blame the president instead of the entire government. Would Bush have made the same mistakes given a "Contract With America" congress? I doubt it. The 3 houses are supposed to be equal for a reason. The Talking A$$ Clown is eroding the power of congress on purpose. He's attempting to remove a check on his power. That's BEYOND anything done by the other progressive presidents in recent memory. And it's the most dangerous threat to our nation since WWII.
hey, i'm a cubs fan, and i can name some sox players. he should know the name is us cellular, he was in the state senate when the deal was done. he might have been too busy voting present to notice.
another reason why wrigley field is the best in the country. it is in a neighborhood, lots of places around it for fun. i used to live within walking distance of it. also privately owned and operated. even though we seem to have had a bad century over there as far as the world series is concerned. most modern parks try to emulate the feel, but none are right in the middle of a place where people live. yes parking sucks, yes it is old. but it is a shrine to baseball, once it closes, nothing will ever replace it. kaminski field is a modern war zone two hours after the game. nobody wants to party near that place.
Congress is the cancer but a figurehead armed with a complacent media and dirt for extortion is far more dangerous, just look to Wilson and FDR for the most recent examples!
The president isn't allowed to "make law" for a reason and congress has abdicated their responsibility to the republic in the name of party power.
I see Obama and his complicit lap dog congress as the largest threat facing America today, even bigger than Al Queda or Iran.
He is distorting the rule of law and is a few short steps away from total power, November is critical to putting the brakes on but it will not be the cure, educated voters will be the cure.
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heeey I like to swin……build me a pool! huh?? build it myself??? with what???
if a pro team wants to play in your town let them build it, that may make staying a little easier, or if they leave it becomes public property…the next team has to buy it to use it….
I totally agree with you on this guy there Missy,……….
all roads did at one time lead to Rome,……….
but the world is round now with many, many more roads and,…….
George Bush should not be blamed for every pot hole,………..
ML may not be a troll,………but single ling out the Texas Rangers,….
to take a slap at Bush raised my eyebrows when you stop to consider that,…..
Texas was and is one of the only states that has the finances,…….
to build stadiums without leaning on the folks so much. (i.e., US Cell, Soldier Field in Chicago)
When the new Comisky Park (U.S. Cell) replaced the old park,……….
all the private businesses along 35th Street were eliminated,……….
now when you go see a Sox game, you can't buy a Hot Dog or a beer,…….
within 5 blocks of the stadium.
Ozzie doesn't care,…..he does most of his shopping in Venezuela.
and please everyone don't say it,……….yes I am still a Sox fan,……..
how can you take the stripes off a zebra.
Heck, I could have told you that stadiums aren't economic boons for the surrounding area – LA has been trying to shoehorn teams into the colisuem for years in effort to reinvigorate the surrounding neighborhood. The reason the Raiders left for Oakland once more was in part because they didn't like being in an area where the fans had to wonder if their cars were going to be there when they came back from the game. USC plays there today and, to my knowledge, the area is still a dump. I'm kind of convinced that the only way you're going to get a revitalization of the area is to take a bulldozer to it. But then, I moved to the midwest about 12 years ago, so things may have changed since I left LA. I kind of doubt it, but…
Oh, and by the way, that was a nice picture of Dodger Stadium from the '90s. It was built entirely with private funds by Walter O'Malley back in the early '60s, just so you know.
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Tampa Bay (home of MLB's Rays) is having issues with their stadium. Tropicana Field isn't the quality of other major-league stadiums, and the fans aren't filling the stands in spite of the team's recent successes. Tampa doesn't seem to want to build a new stadium, but some other city will, and lure them away.
2 new stadiums have been built in Detroit within the last few years, and they haven't spurred much of anything. The area they are in is still mostly vacant, except for a few bars and restaurants that were already there. People go to the games, and jump right back on the freeway and return to the suburbs after.
indeed. it's easy enough to see and follow the plays from the telly. and if you want the ball-park experience, go minor league – reasonable prices, lots of kid-friendly nonsense between innings, you're close enough to the game to actually see it, and the players are still putting out 100%. nice.
Took the words right outta my mouth, Wildcat,
Who the hell can afford to buy the tickets, the gas to get there, waste half a day each way in traffic, only to miss half the plays and have to catch them on the big screen they put up for folks to actually SEE the dam game.
Tough call, spend hundreds of dollars, sit in blisterin heat, freezing rain and cold, in a cheap seat with no hope of seeing the game…..or either watch whatever game's free on TV or buy a sports package from your cable provider, complete with running commentary, tape it so you're free to get up and refuel, resupply, and well, you know, all in the comfort of your own livin room.
Yah…..NO BRAINER ON STEROIDS. WHAT ARE THESE FOOLS THINKIN?
The problem is that cities are not united to resist this type of taxpayer subsidy. And in many cases even the teams have no choice but to demand these subsidies. If the city/state won't pony up there is always another city that will. If the team doesn't look for the handout and relocate if necessary they must compete at a disadvantage. They can build on their own but the $25M a year they spend on a stadium could be spent on a superstar player or two that will instead play for one of their competitors. It's been standard procedure for so long now that bucking the system means losing the team. But then it's not like "green" energy companies could stay in business without taxpayer subsidies either.
louis it wasteed south africa too much money !!!!
wow the new sports stattion is so wonderful!! great ~~~vuitton
The real economic benefits from stadiums is reaped by politically connected contractors, developers, and concessioners.
In Edmonton, we're currently debating the virtues of bulding a new hockey arena. Darryl Katz, the owner of the Edmonton Oilers, wants to build it in the downtown core. The argument is that that it will help revalitalize an entire portion of downtown.
By Edmonton's previous experience, the argument is actually bunk.
Right now, there are two major sporting facilities in Edmonton — Rexall Place (formerly Northlands Colliseum), home of the Oilers, and Commonwealth Stadium, home of the CFL's Edmonton Eskimos. The arguemnt that sports stadiums revitalize a neighbourhood crashes on the rocks of the fact that the neighbourhoods in which these two facilities are located are not vital neighbourhoods, but rather troubled areas of the city.
The streets these facilities are located on are not inhabited by restaurants and pubs, but mostly by pawn shops. The one nightclub that exists near Rexall Place is the most violent one in the city, with several shooting incidents there within the last year.
Meanwhile, plans to build that arena in the downtown core — they want to tear down a Casino in order to make it happen — conflicts with plans to expand the city's Light Rail Transit system to the south of the city, as building the arena downtown will require that money that would be spent on above-ground rail construction will instead be spent building underground train stations to serve the arena.
Yet people want these facilities, and they have to get built somehow. Developers should expore more free-market options before appealing for public funds.
Much more broadly than merely stadiums- this is an illustration of government spending utterly failing to "stimulate" economic growth, ever. Face it; if there were money to be made, private business would already be there. Government 'investment,' i.e. taking money out of the economy and putting it into places the politicians think it ought to go, can be likened to amputating a man's foot and sewing it to the side of his head.
Here in Richmond, these boondoggles have happened over and over and over again, each one whit the shiny promises of "redevelopment' and 'revitalisation' and blah blah blah. The Coliseum, Main Street Station, the Convention Center, Sixth Street Marketplace- every one a bankrupt disaster, for which the taxpayers are still being bilked.
Finally the taxpayers had enough, and nixed the proposal to build a new downtown ballpark. Even though the Braves organization threatened to pull out their AAA affiliate if they didn't get a brand-new stadium for free, the voters had had enough, and said no.
Yes, the Braves did pull up stakes and leave, because some other town were suckers enough to build them a ballpark for nothing.
If Bank of America (for example) wants to move their operations center to some city (and thereby bring in hundreds of good-paying jobs) the city wouldn't pay for their office building. So I fail to see why cities should pay for stadiums.
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But they would give them a few million dollars in tax breaks. In my town a few years ago they built a new Target. The town already had a Target but they wanted to build a new one on a flood plane. The city gave them a million dollars in property tax breaks. Later they built a Walmart supercenter right next door. I'm not sure how much Walmart got but I bet it was about a million dollars, otherwise I'd think the city would open itself up to a lawsuit. I don't approve of this sort of thing, although I don't really approve of property tax in the first place, but if there is a tax it should be applied evenly. Sports stadiums just takes it to the next level, but for most cities, it's either pony up or lose the team. The whole culture needs to change.
"Hey look, East money-down-the-drain-ville just got a new stadium. We're better than them! We have to build one too!"
"Budget? Naw, we can just tax the ignorant populace. They won't notice a bump in their property/sales/gas taxes. Besides, they can't stop us anyway."
And so it goes.
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The Dallas Cowboys are the most recent example of this, Jerry Jones got his 1 Billion Dollar Palace built on the taxpayers shoulders. Now don't get me wrong, I was the biggest Cowboy fan. That was until 1989 when Jones became the owner and trashed Tom Landry. Haven't seen or listened to a Cowboy game since and I will not ever set foot in their new Stadium.
Arguably, the most dangerous threat to the United States since George III.
As mentioned upthread, if you want to actually see and enjoy a sports contest, go to a high school or minor league game. As for "professional sports", I consider that a contradiction in terms, and have paid no attention to it since the '69 Mets.
There's a little problem with giving ML the benefit of the doubt:: his "facts" are wrong. W did not make his money with the Rangers' sale. I think he had already made his money through oil business in Midland, TX. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt by saying that he's possibly just misinformed.
I think it's from nostalgia from the good old days. I love pro sports, but long for the days of Staubach, Lilly, Drew Pearson, etc. Mostly the overhyped like T. Owens, R. Bush, and yes, even Tony Romo make me ill. Like Jerry Seinfeld said, today we root for laundry, not individual players.
Great point, but go farther. Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for anything! Our representatives should be representing us, not these teams.
Cause honestly, as a right wing capitalist, he has a point. Obviously many on 'our' side oppose this sort of bailout/subsidy mentality that we've developed. But conservatives are rightly skeptical of someone who posts here even if they make salient points because the track record of soooo many on the left when on here of posing as one of 'us'. Plus there is the double standard on both sides. Conservatives who stay silent when giveaways are out there do a disservice to real , free market/low tax/low regulation capitalism. But many liberals who are critical of 'corporate welfare' seem to do so more to embarass Republicans than to stand on legimate principle. Corporate welfare is HIGHER now than it's ever been under the chosen one (of course he recieved nearly double the bid'ness donors than McCain did in the election cycle). So are farm subsides. Of course he might be tooo busy creating Government Motors
Detroit had a Super Bowl there, too. Indy's hosting one in the near future as well.
A lot of politicos think that showcasing a city's capability of hosting an event demonstrates to the world that it's the best. However, as anyone in the Midwest can attest, there are a LOT of Rust Belt towns that have dead or dying factories.
Football's great, but it isn't the economy. It's not industry. These politicians might as well make Thanksgiving dinner out of a mere can of frosting.
You can take the trash out of the south side, but you can't take the south side out of the trash.
But the picture used is of Dodger Stadium , build 50 years ago with private money ! Who's your editor?
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