Are We a Center-Right Nation?
by Todd ThurmanLast Tuesday, Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas wrote an op-ed in The Hill claiming the center-right nation was a myth. In the article he points out that it is impossible for it to be a center-right nation due to the fact that there are strong democratic majorities in the House and the Senate. He also cites Gallup polls claiming that even though 40% identify themselves as conservative, it is not a majority. It is unclear if he is trying to convince us, or himself, that we are not a center-right nation.
It is true that there is a strong liberal majority in the House and Senate. However, that cannot be explained to the fact that this nation leans to the left. Moulitsas makes no mention to the fact that without Obama at the top of the ticket, conservatives have done very well. In the special runoff election a month after Obama was elected, Saxby Chambliss was elected with 57 percent of the vote, nearly 10 more percentage points then he had a month earlier in the general election. Or the stunning victory of Scot Brown in MA by 5 percentage points to win a seat that had been inhabited by a Democrat for 47 years. He also pays no mention to the fact that Virginia, who has two Democrat Senators and voted for Obama in 2008, elected a strong conservative by a margin of 19 points in 2009. He also ignores the fact that in New Jersey they elected a Republican governor.
In the election of 2006 and 2008 voters wanted change, but they did not want the major change that the Obama administration is trying to achieve. Obama won the election by running on conservative ideals like cutting taxes and cutting spending. In fact, Obama’s plan to tax people that made over $250,000 was a highly contested issue in the election. The American people did not vote a complete government takeover of health care.
According to Rasmussen, 75% of Americans are at least somewhat angry at the government’s current policies. That is a staggering number that should send a message that you cannot govern from the left, especially if you campaign from the right. If Markos truly believes that the Center-Right nation is a myth, he should look no further than the 9/12 March on Washington.
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President Obama, to host a televised bipartisan health care meeting February 25th.
Rep Thaddeus McCotter On Cavuto 9 February 2010. Sitting in for Neil Cavuto, Charles Payne, asks Rep McCotter.
"Is the GOP up for this, are you going to take the bait."
Thaddeus McCotter responds "I certainly don't think we should take the bait.
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GOP not goin there.
Currently center right nation but as this Congress continues current policy direction it will force a further shift to the right. One election at a time the progressives will lose and Americans will value conservative government. The people do understand more of economics than this ultra liberal progressive administration thinks. Fiscal failure and non-stop wealth re-ditribution will cease shortly.
A major reason, perhaps the major reason for this disconnect is the MSM, which obviously strongly leans to the left. It is estimated that the MSM gives leftist candidates a 10-12% headstart in any federal election.
Typical left, trying to twist and take things out of context to make it fit in their elitist, ideological world. Not only is the country center-right, but it's also pro-life. THAT FACT should make their heads explode.
I love Liberal propaganda…And they call Glenn Beck the hate and fear mongerer…Hillarious.
And I think it's safe to say that this administration is not governing from the left. They have moved way past the left all the way around to their sphincters. At least we know that's where Obama keeps his head most of the time…!
Run Forest, Run…
A good portion of democrats are elected because a lot of people were raised in democrat households. They are the knee-jerk voters who haven't realized that it's not their father's party anymore, it leans more toward communism. Even the Communist Party U.S.A. endorses democrat candidates these days.
Wrong is right, black is white, up is down, and "stupid" is the new "smart". Can't we just ship them back to the parallel universe where they were created?
EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE knows that the US is a center-right country. The idiots on the left who are doing intellectual gymnastics to "prove" otherwise are lying to themselves.
They do that a lot.
Yes, America is a center right nation. More importantly the majority have started to find a voice against politicians who will ignore their views.
The Lefties are going to find out where the people in America stand. It's going to be on top of Them and High Time Too.
I…………………………………………………………………………………..I………………………(you hoo…we're over here)…………………….I
The MSM is infected by progressiveism, and view the American people as a bunch of under educated hicks who just don't get it. We are stupid if we don't want health care, we are stupid if we don't think central California starve for the benefit of a minnow.
Simply put, we are out of touch with reality…
It's suprising we're not in even worse shape after years and years of propaganda from the media and re"education" in the schools.
It's our American spirit, it's in our genes.
DON'T TREAD ON ME
If this were a left leaning nation, Fox News wouldn't be clobbering CNN, MSNBC, HLN, combined. Air America would still be on the air, Universal Healthcare would have passed, Cap and Trade would have passed, George Soros would have a sex change and be running the country, Al Frankin would have moved the US Capital to Minnesota, ACORN/SEIU would be providing "national security", MSNBC would be the ONLY TV channel, and we'd all be calling each other "Comrade".
To Einy: Frankly I don't see any left wing hate in this. Treat each article and author at face value. As for the left and Beck, his anti-intellectual faux-populist public persona and his tendency to pepper "libertarian" in his comments is really off-putting to actual libertarians too. Gone are the days of Buckley and actual thought (i guess). The sad thing is that the only cable news opinioner who tries to back up statements with evidence and logic is left-wing rachel maddow.
but back to this article.
The fact is that both Markos Moulitsas and Todd Thurman are using pretty incomplete data sets to make a point. A shift in 2009 for Republicans like Brown's filling of Kennedy's seat is not indicative of a center right leaning nation. Obama's large victory in 2008 is not a stable indicator of America's center left leanings. I don't know how our country really leans. The only way to know for sure is to poll every american through a significant portion of time. Remember, voter turnout is not 100% and that Senate seats are not proportional to population.
Center right? Not quite. A 'mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore' center right. That fixed it.
Goldy Locks fence sitters are the reason we have Oblamer in office. Fortunately enough indie's are waking up. If you consider Rachel to be fair and objectively balanced then you have not recovered your senses yet, assuming you had some to begin with.
You hinted at a point there: intellectuals. It's the academics, who have no real-world experience with jobs, running a business, or even dealing with people, who keep pushing this liberal agenda. Look at the left. It's filled with those who have done one of two things: taught school or worked in government (sometimes both). they don't know what it's like to have to get up in the morning and look for a job, or what it's like to wonder if your sales will keep up with your business and family expenses.
And the few who have become wealthy using capitalism seem to hate it. George Soros, rather than being charitable, would rather spend his money trying to force money out of others to "share the wealth." Imagine what good he could do if he spent his billions where it's needed, instead of trying to change a system that worked for over 200 years?
Yikes, just TALKING about progressives gets my BP up ;-/
Personally, I think America is a CENTER-RIGHT nation.
Unfortunately, Obama thinks we're a DOWN-UP-and-IN nation…as in sit DOWN, shut UP and give IN!
2008 was a backlash against Bush
2010 will be a backlash against Obama
We are not a leftist country, it is just that our most recent mass voter backlash has been against those (nominally) on the right.
Sad that the only way to tell the clowns in power that we don't want business as usual (whatever porky ideological projects they want to push) is to vote for the "other guy" — any other guy who stands a chance of election even if we don't like him any better.
"It is unclear if he is trying to convince us, or himself, that we are not a center-right nation."
It's a problem not only in his head – not mind – but in Greece also.
Everyone is running around in Greece pretending that they are not piss broke. If you believe the Germans are really going to bail you out then I have a wind farm in Manhattan to sell to you. The press releases will make it sound like a bailout. But it won't be.
Why? For the same reason Markos Moulitsas won't understand that 40% of the USA HATES everything the Progressive Movement stands for (except the GMO issue). Greece has been fleeced and looted. Moulitsas' faith in his leadership is also fleeced and looted. The hardest part is admitting it.
Someone in the USA calling Greece broke? Yeah I know. That's rich. You can throw stones in glass houses if your intention is to bring it down. I'll be there to rebuild….this time using cement.
So many terms yet none of them are defined so the point is lost. You use "liberal" "left" "democrat" interchangably along with "coservative" "right" and "republican" interchangeably.
If the Right is the opposite of the Left then I would say the Right doesn't even exist in this country in any organized way.
And the Democrats rule congress because they let the Republicans define themselves as the foolish war party. That is why you have Obama. And had you not blocked Ron Paul he would be President and you could right this moment be enjoying the other side whine about him rolling back gun laws, ACTUALLY decreasing the size of government and getting us out of debt.
Looks like new measures should be implemented to describe the nations position: ice tea-hot tea-black tea-green tea- tea with lemon. It is about drinking the right tea
Blame Bush for letting any 3rd worlder who wanted to come here do so. Bush savored the threat and prayed for an attack so he could expand government even more. Their goal is not to keep you safe – that doesn't help them at all. Keeping you scared gives them access to power and your money. It is basic human motivation.
2008 was a backlash against Bush
2010 will be a backlash against Obama
Who both meet at CFR and laugh their *sses off at Americans chasing shadows on the wall. If both "parties" are controlled by CFR then it is all a show. I don't know which they are more loyal to – CFR or AIPAC but Americans aren't even third on the list. That would probably be China.
You've never seen Beck's show before have you? Every single thing he says is backed up with a mountain of evidence. Of course the only way to know that it watch the show. Watching the cherry-picked soundbites the MSM provide would of course lead one to believe the contrary.
Whaaaaat? Rachel Maddow, back up statements with evidence and logic?
I guess this is satire right?
Just wait till more of our kids get out of school…
I think i heard that in So. Carolina the chapter where DON'T TREAD ON ME in US History has been eliminated.
Yes the country is center right. The only reason for the Dems control of congress is that they refuse to run on their true beliefs – that is their Radical Progressive ideas and the MSM complete refusal to report honestly without bias. Thus a lot of Americans still think the Dems are for the little guy – who in reality they think is as dumb as a box of rocks. When Americans wake up and see that the only things the Dems are for are the special interest groups that have Marxist, Socialist, or Progressive roots we'll no longer be center right but, right leaning if not far right.
Wait a while there JT
Rome was not built in a day.
Three years ago, would you have believed that the president of the United States would appoint the CEO of GM.
We had to wait for the "Isreal" reference, but there it is. At least you're consistent.
Terms and definitions confine the way people act and react. When you label someone left or right they are confined within that realm. I find that if you keep labels off of individuals and let them speak as persons instead of trying to figure out which label to put on them they all come out just about the same. I am sure that let me make it clear, of the common folk even folks that have been elected to city county offices are more likely to see that you can't raise taxes to the point of non-production.
This country is unique, as we understand that our freedom to not come at the stroke of the pen of a politician, but from the hand of Almighty God. For those who do not understand this simple premise, such as the progressive hack who wrote the "opinion" from the DailyKOs, they will continue to look to government to enslave them. That is why we can never be a left leaning nation; there aren't enough stupid people or mind-numbed drones to accept their intellectual vacuum as reality.
Like most isolationists, you ignore the fact that the world is no longer insulated from each other. You need to breathe a whiff of reality, and understand that we will have to be engaged in the world if we wish to defend ourselves from those who wish to do us harm.
Left, Right, Center, Liberal, Conservative…
I suppose one can justify the intellectual content of the debate in this article, however, there is another factor that must enter into the equation that is always overlooked in this type of discussion.
That is the BLUTTO vote
This term is commonly used to define this segment of the voting population by those of us who are in contact with them. (south side of Chicago for me)
Is this tad elitist on my part, it most certainly is, but that does not eradicate their existence, nor, I fear, should it.
However, make no mistake, the swaying of this voting bloc will always distort the conclusions of such discussions.
My recommendation….AN OBJECTIVE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM……mmm,..mmm,..mmm
thats all I got to say about that.
Another Anti-Isreal rant, right on cue.
"There aren't enough stupid people or mind-numbed drones to accept their intellectual vacuum as reality".
Maybe not, but the last election makes you wonder. 2010 is a good start to put an end to the madness.
Let them drink from the kool-aide well at kos, they're in for a highly disturbing year. Watching them excuse electoral losses will be highly entertaining, which is all they are at the end of the day, entertainment.
The last election was a knee-jerk reaction to President Bush.
The fact of the matter is that people, left to their own devices, choose conservative principles over statism everytime. It's only when you inject the irresponsiblity of indoctrination that you produce the result of electing a proven Marxist ideologue into the presidency.
Do you want the government intruding on your life or are you an isolationist?
Do you want foreign governments intruding in your life or are you an isolationist? It works both ways, you know. I think there is a certain level of ignorance about that from those who preach your side of things.
Do you think other people like our government involved in their lives? Maybe they are isolationists?
Maybe they wish to do us harm because we murder them and overthrow their governments – what you and your kind sitting in Poly-Sci classes like to euphemise in a variety of ways to make it sound like we are doing them favors. Fat lazy Americans are going to get a big wake up call when they are treated the same way our government has been treating others. Isolationism seems blissful – especially when compared to the alternative – One World Government and the hegemony of China.
You are on the cusp of truth, but still so far.
The government has the right to intrude only in what ways the Constitution gives them quarter.
Our government acts to protect the interests of the United States. If that means an interventionist foreign policy, that is what it means. To be a full-fledged libertarian ignores the reality of the world.
My kind? My kind is on the same side as you, but I am certainly more in touch with reality than those of you who tout Ron Paui and Pat Buchanan.
You cannot roll back 120 years of Progressivism overnight, my friend. We can't just stop doing what we are doing without leaving a vacuum for some terrorist thug or a future dictator to just walk into it. To do so would make our position much worse than it already is. It took 120 years to get here, and it will take a LONG time to get out of it.
The left right paradigm is wrong. You are both wrong. Political views are more than left right.
this will help show a more accurate diagram:
http://www.nolanchart.com
and for those that want to see where their views plot on the diagram go here:
http://www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html
Let me know how you chart!
You imply that Fox News is not mainstream even though it has a larger viewing audience than the "mainstream media" outlets.
You also imply that U.S. citizens are not smart enough to make good decisions and will blindly follow what they are told by the so called mainstream media.
I don't agree with either of those implications. I think once people suffer enough discomfort, then they will self educate appropriately.
I will argue that center right is also a myth. Please view my post and see where you chart on a more realistic diagram!
I will argue that the left right paradigm is incorrect. Please see my post and see a more accurate chart and find out where you plot on the chart!
First decent post I have read so far on this article.
Isolationism is relieved by free trade and other liberty minded policies. Sending welfare to foreign nations is just wealth distribution from producers to other regimes.
The financials of the U.S. government are more of a threat to its existence as a power than these so called threats. The U.S. can no longer afford its empire.
If you look at the current foreign policy and start crunching some numbers, you will realize that it is as unsunstainable as social security.
Please see my post to see a more realistic chart than the left/right paradigm that you correctly call out as being wrong.
See where you chart on the graph!
Once again Markos is off his nut. If the country ISN'T center-right, then Obama should have campaigned honestly, stating in no uncertain terms that he would raise taxes, increase spending, socialize every industry possible, and basically create a hostile environment for business (because we all hate profits, right?). Instead, he did just the opposite and just barely managed to win at that.
Of course, Kos would probably reply that Obama would have won by a more significant margin if he'd only campaigned with a Karl Marx and Lenin pin on his lapel. Which, of course, explains why the Bamster is in the dumps in the polls…. because he's pretending to be too conservative. Right! I see now. This Kool-Aid is tasty!
It's not that the left right paradigm is wrong exactly, it's just incomplete as the nola chart shows much more. I score like a pinko but you have to admit the questions to suck arse at least equally as much as being stuck in a strict lateral 'left/right' perspective on the political spectrum.
I'm afraid you are wrong with respect to the audience levels between FOX and the MSM.
true, FOX outscores all the rest of cable networks.
But I do believe the majority of the people (dunderheads) in the country still think they are getting news from CBS, NBC and ABC.
Well now that you have explained it to us all so convincingly there Dhaffy.
Can you please use you highly superior methodology and inform us of what came first….?
The chicken or the egg.
I don't disagree with that. What I disagree is with those that simple want us to withdraw in this way:
"RIGHT NOW!" "RIGHT THIS SECOND!"
It's ignorance, no different than those who are ignorant enough to think that we are are nation of liberal boot-lickers.
It will take time to withdraw, probably with the help of at least a two-term Constitutionalist president to do it. We cannot withdraw from the whole world overnight. It is a goal to work toward, but not something that will happen right away.
The government acts however the lobbyists tell them to. There are lobbyists that profit greatly from war. Who profits from peace? Where is the lobby? Hence we have non-stop war.
…terrorist thug or a future dictator….
We create terrorists directly and indirectly. We support dictators and kings. You might have been on the right track about "interests" (though seemingly naive about whose interests are being served) but don't try to tart this up with moral BS about dictators when we support them.
lulz, kool-aide is high octane
We create none of the sort. It's called "choice", something that every man and woman has. I refuse to be blamed for the choices of others. We're repsonsible for Chavez or Castro? Nonsense. They are responsible for themselves.
Your argument is specious at best.
I made no such implications. WRT Fox, CHICAGO RALPH response was accurate and succinct. As to the later alleged implication: GIGO (Garbage In Garbage Out). Sensible people make decisions based, in large part, on the data they are given. When that data is massaged, if not outright falsified, bad decisions can be the likely result.
For example, I have heard many conservatives express not just dislike, but contempt for Sarah Palin, based solely upon the hatchet job perpetrated by Katie Couric. I am a fan of Rush Limbaugh, and have listened to many audio montages he has prepared, illustrating how the same talking points and catch phrases are used, time and time again, by the usual suspects in the MSM.
There's that old adage about fooling people. The relevant part in this case goes, "You can fool some of the people all of the time." 10-12% count as some.
What the heck is center right or center left?
I call whatever it is "we gonna go with the money".
or
Fence sitting
Most people don't even know what these terms mean. The constant barrage of MSM "information" regarding what "conservatives" or "the right" is, for decades, as well as a seemingly coordinated attack through academia has produced a lot of confusion. How else does one explain the myth that fascism is "right wing?" (I say seemingly, because I do not believe there is some sort of "conspiracy" in the traditional sense. However, ideological lock-step can produce what seems to be coordinated actions and results).
Most of us have probably, at one time or another, had to deal with someone saying they support Dems and liberals because they're "nicer" and "care about people." This is nothing more than a false impression given by constant bombardment from academia and the MSM with what amounts to little more than propaganda. We are dealing with a populace that is the product of a cultural world-view that is inherently egocentric and emotion-based. Even our irrational love of "facts" and "science" keeps us from seeing larger pictures and taking the time to examine history and example, using them to direct whatever emotional instincts we may have (that do tend, let's be honest, toward center-right).
We worship "experts" and "the educated" who give us sound-bytes and polls, "studies" and "consensus," and, as a whole, filtered through an egocentric perspective, you get what we have today: a populace that hates congress, but will vote the same people in over and over again; that hates prejudice, but is all too willing to define individuals based on skin color and interest-group membership; and that is far too concerned with personal finances than anything else (one of my biggest problems, among many, with libertarians).
I don't suggest that everyone needs to be an expert or thoroughly well-read on all aspects of history and politics. Not all are so designed. However, our general level is so low that currents in opinion are as driven by the herd mentality, as a proxy for personal opinion (egocentrism by proxy, in other words), as any justifiable set of reasons or beliefs. This is, of course, a natural outcome for a culture such as ours and the system we inhabit.
I know I've bored the members of more than one board with rants regarding the inevitable result of our cultural development – a process begun centuries before this nation was even founded and a process reflected in even our founding – but there are legitimate questions regarding the origin of the cultural mentality shared by most members of this nation that need to be addressed if we're to fully understand why we're in the pickle we're in today. If we continue to refuse a deeper examination of said causes, and remain content in blaming symptoms instead of the disease, as Steyn once said, we're just gonna get a different captain of the same ship.
the sinner,
Patrick
The leftist democrats need to learn that even their own constituants are not stupid…You tax them a lot ,they seem to wisen up.
Poll after poll show that the public, by 60% or better, believe in smaller government, lower taxes and the private sector.
You make some good points. Good poast.
The largest party affiliation is Conservative, twice that of liberals. If you live in academia, your mothers basement or in one of the leftwing "news" organizations you wouldn't know America is center right. But in the real world America has never been a leftwing nation as Hussein's trying to impose on us but has always been a center right nation.
JUSTICE FOR TERRORIST REQUIRES CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT!
Will somebody please tell this idiot Constitutional Lawyer of an ILLEGAL President who is supposed to be knowledgeable of the U.S. Constitution that for him to give "justice" to his muslim terrorist brothers who want to kill Americans and destroy America just for the sport of it requires an Amendment to the Constitution! Right in the Preamble it states….."We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish "JUSTICE", insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." The Preamble Does Not, I repeat DOES NOT SAY….We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish "JUSTICE", insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity AND TO TERRORIST THAT WANT TO KILL US, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. This ILLEGAL President has an emotional bond to the terrorist that is un-Constitutional and is a threat to the NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
Another part is the liberals teach to go against authority… but forget that often times THEY are the authority. Can't claim to want to stick it to the man when it's their guy who is the man, or to be speaking truth to power when the people they love are the ones in power.
We are still semi-functioning, so I presume we must be a center-right nation.
College campuses are a different story, but contrary to popular belief, there is a society off campus.
Darn this supporting Israel thing.
Can't wait till Iran nukes them so the DOW can get back above 10,000.
And once again we will be able to all sing ……….
"Happy days are here again……."
Simply put Johnny……..We the American people have decided that we don't want the "Progressive" agenda. We believe it will do great harm to our Constitution. We are fighting against a socialist, communist take over of our country. Good non-progressive Republicans, the old Democrat party people, the Independents, and all others that are not Progressive are working to take back our country. Party does not matter right now, we are working together to protect our Constitution. That's the MOST important reason for the Tea Party movement. It's that siimple. You will see changes made from our grassroots government right up to the top of our government. Main objective…….Get rid of all the self proclamed PROGRESSIVES. There are 80+ Progressives in Congress alone. If the Progressive were to run on their own party ticket, with Obama's agenda that is being pushed today, they would not get the votes to get any of them elected. Why do you suppose they hid themselves within the Democrat Party. America has seen their agenda and have flat out rejected it. It is not about the party's. The movement, we see right now does indicate, we are a center right nation.
OK which one you have 409?
@keyboard jockey: "President Obama, to host a televised bipartisan health care meeting"
I would rather he be hosting a game show, where he can't hurt anyone.
Again, the left right paradigm pits everyone in camp A or camp B. Politicians love it, because a divided nation is easier to rule. If you look at a Nolan chart you will find that many people don't fit the im left or im right paradigm, but might be partial to camp A, with a hint of camp B, but prefer a camp C.
Anyway, when I saw Sarah Palin backing McCain and also Rick Perry of Texas when two better, more constitutionally minded candidates are available, I formed a lasting opinion of the Tea Party.
The left right paradigm government wants you to fall into is wrong. Please view my post and let me know how you chart!
The left right paradigm is a myth. Center right is a myth. Please view my post to see a more realistic chart and see where u plot!
Ya, more detailed question sets exist, I just put that one up because it was short and I thought people might try it.
A lot of people fall into the libertarian hole after first being a so called conservative, that's fairly common, and to be a blended libertarian/conservative is not uncommon either.
Both sides of the aisle like to keep the masses involved and divided in the left/right paradigm. A divided public that fights each other is easier to rule, please see my post to view a more realistic chart and find out where you plot!
Ya the real Sara Palin finally stood up when she backed McCain and is now backing Gov. Perry in Texas. Bill Kristol took her under his wing and did a fine job.
Finding something for the over 100,000 military personel that sit in South Korea and Japan would indeed be a challenge.
If this was not a center-right nation Democrats would have won their majorities with leftist candidates. Instead, they routed Republicans in '06 and '08 by running blue dogs on the right.
That would also explain the public's unhappiness at "bait and switch" legislation.
"Clinging to War for Israel's profit." Its a nice sounding phrase to trot out as propaganda I suppose. Much like "Do it for the Children" or "The War to end all Wars" or one of my favorites "The Greed of The Military Industrial Complex." .Darn that logical brain of mine analyzing such catchy phrases and spoiling them completely. I wonder how much money Israel would save if they didn't have to worry about people shooting rockets into their country or Terrorist groups plotting their destruction or say a Country saying We are going to wipe you off the face of the earth when we get nuclear weapons. I expect far more money than they get from "the profits of war" Oh by the way The President cant make existing legislation vanish, nor decrease the size of Government without the support of Congress. He can certainly decrease his Executive Staff but then he has no one to deal with those other two branches of Government. He can certain Veto everything that comes to his desk but just saying No to everything constantly doesn't actually accomplish anything after a certain point. Oh and pulling all the military out of everywhere at once would be violating that pesky thing called the Constitution with its Protect from enemies foreign and Domestic leading to a very angry Congress and American People screaming for it impeaching your guy right out of office
Are We a Center-Right Nation? by Todd Thurman: I'm not sure that I'd call us a center-right nation, but I will know just who we are if/when President Obama announces a "state of Emergency" due to Domestic terrorism (by the Domestic Terrorist Bill passed by another progressive, G.W. Bush) declaring the Tea Party Candidates are Domestic Terrorists! We already know that only ACORN is exempt from Domestic Terrorism! Finally, I can not see America economically surviving this self-professed Marxist regime!
Miranda rights are NOT limited to United State citizens. In Miranda Vs. Arizona the Supreme Court established that a criminal has rights protected by the Fifth and Sixth Amendment of the US Constitution. This does not apply ONLY to US Citizens, but to ANYONE charged with a crime in the United States of America. True Americans understand that in order to be a country of laws we must allow even the most obvious criminal to be processed according to our Constitution. I am sure this is lost on you, since you are obviously living in a fantasy world where only people you agree with are allowed to be elected President. No matter how often you write "ILLEGAL President" the fact remains that President Obama was elected by a majority of Americans to be our 44th President.
You dispute MSM by saying they treat us like under educated hicks and then reel off a stream of statements that make you sound like an under educated hick. Your narrative is a clone of a Fox News talking points memo. Your last point in particular, concerning Climate Change, is classic. The last decade was the WARMEST on record. Temperatures have been rising not falling. If you understood global warming at all you would not try to refute it by mentioning snow storms. Large, frequent snow storms ARE predicted by climate scientists as a consequence of global warming. The rise in temperature causes more moisture to be in the atmosphere, which is then released as precipitation. No scientist said global warming would end winter weather. When we go through a long period of ABOVE average temperatures this summer will you then decide that the scientists are right? After all, using your logic today's snow fall disproves global warming, so all we need is a few hot summer days to turn you around. Highly educated, very highly educated this one is!
"just barely managed to win at that"? So winning by almost 10 million votes, 56% to 43% with 365 to 173 electoral votes is "just barely winning"? Ok, live your fantasy. After all, Bush lost the 2000 election, (50,456,002 47.87%to Gore's 50,999,897 48.38%) and then went on to a second term.
Dear little little GREEN POD CREATURE from OUTER SPACE,
Why do you feel the need to interject little childish insults? Why the unwarranted aggression? Did I say something that offends you?
And YOU failed to mention NY-23, where a Tea Party endorsed candidate LOST a seat held by the GOP for 150 years! You can't point out the omissions of others, and claim it to be significant, while omitting something yourself. As amazing as the Scott Brown election was, it isn't any more amazing than the Bill Owens win in New York. Disingenuous much?
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Lets see a guy with no charming or magnetic personality who had never run for a political candidacy ever runs on The Conservative Ticket against a Liberal Republican and a Democrat. And He still almost wins even though the Liberal Republican Candidate quits and endorses the Democrat at the last minute. You mean that NY-23 ?
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