Comments on: Threat of Eminent Domain Hangs in the Air Over Minnesota Wind Power Project http://biggovernment.com/tsteward/2009/12/04/threat-of-eminent-domain-hangs-in-the-air-over-minnesota-wind-power-project/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:02:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: love tarot readings http://biggovernment.com/tsteward/2009/12/04/threat-of-eminent-domain-hangs-in-the-air-over-minnesota-wind-power-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6064452 love tarot readings Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:12:15 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=41086#comment-6064452 <strong>50...</strong> […]Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won't expect it back.[…]... 50…

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]]> By: The History of Wind Generated Power http://biggovernment.com/tsteward/2009/12/04/threat-of-eminent-domain-hangs-in-the-air-over-minnesota-wind-power-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1823438 The History of Wind Generated Power Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:10:36 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=41086#comment-1823438 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Eminent domain and wind rights - Politics and Other Controversies - Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Conservatives, Liberals, Third Parties, Left-Wing, Right-Wing, Congress, President - City-Data Forum http://biggovernment.com/tsteward/2009/12/04/threat-of-eminent-domain-hangs-in-the-air-over-minnesota-wind-power-project/comment-page-1/#comment-884774 Eminent domain and wind rights - Politics and Other Controversies - Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Conservatives, Liberals, Third Parties, Left-Wing, Right-Wing, Congress, President - City-Data Forum Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:28:49 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=41086#comment-884774 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: STLR Link Roundup – December 11, 2009 http://biggovernment.com/tsteward/2009/12/04/threat-of-eminent-domain-hangs-in-the-air-over-minnesota-wind-power-project/comment-page-1/#comment-841666 STLR Link Roundup – December 11, 2009 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:06:44 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=41086#comment-841666 [...] implications of new technology aren’t all covered in intellectual property classes – Andrew Breitbart’s Big Government blog looks at the possible use of eminent domain to take the “wind rights” of farmers and [...] [...] implications of new technology aren’t all covered in intellectual property classes – Andrew Breitbart’s Big Government blog looks at the possible use of eminent domain to take the “wind rights” of farmers and [...]

]]> By: ScottR http://biggovernment.com/tsteward/2009/12/04/threat-of-eminent-domain-hangs-in-the-air-over-minnesota-wind-power-project/comment-page-1/#comment-756498 ScottR Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:30:22 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=41086#comment-756498 My follow-up comment is directed at "SETH - December 6th, 2009 at 5:30pm". Fact # 1 - The MN PUC reaffirmed Landowner Property and Wind Rights in the aforementioned PUC Order, as a Minnesota resident, the MN PUC speaks for the State Legislature as empowered by MN Statute 216F.08(C). Fact # 2 - The only reason eminent domain has raised its ugly head, the Town of New Ulm has monetary gains and these Turbines won't be located near the city, nothing to do with “BEST For Society”, it’s all about money. Fact # 3 - There are thousands and thousands of acres around New Ulm and the developer is restricted to this tract. Lastly, landowners who allow these to be erected on their lands will reap 5-7K a year per turbine for their land/wind rights and 2-4K a year for road right away. After 10-20 years the developer will turn over the turbines to the landowners who will be responsible for their complete (to ground level) decommissioning at end of life. By the way, no one wants to address this issue, especially the developers…not their job. Right now it cost about 100K to get the specialized crane to a project site, so when these landowners spent all their lease earnings year after and have no money to carry out the decommissioning, the local citizens through tax increases will be stuck with those decommissioning costs (did you ever see the abandoned oil derricks in Texas, from an ecological standpoint we’re headed in the same direction). I only hope the county is smart enough to make the developer deposit money in an escrow earmarked for decommissioning. Again, within the PUC Order there are specifics about the documented requirements for decommissioning; those in charge of the Conditional Use Permit better hold them to those requirements. My follow-up comment is directed at “SETH – December 6th, 2009 at 5:30pm”. Fact # 1 – The MN PUC reaffirmed Landowner Property and Wind Rights in the aforementioned PUC Order, as a Minnesota resident, the MN PUC speaks for the State Legislature as empowered by MN Statute 216F.08(C). Fact # 2 – The only reason eminent domain has raised its ugly head, the Town of New Ulm has monetary gains and these Turbines won’t be located near the city, nothing to do with “BEST For Society”, it’s all about money. Fact # 3 – There are thousands and thousands of acres around New Ulm and the developer is restricted to this tract. Lastly, landowners who allow these to be erected on their lands will reap 5-7K a year per turbine for their land/wind rights and 2-4K a year for road right away. After 10-20 years the developer will turn over the turbines to the landowners who will be responsible for their complete (to ground level) decommissioning at end of life. By the way, no one wants to address this issue, especially the developers…not their job. Right now it cost about 100K to get the specialized crane to a project site, so when these landowners spent all their lease earnings year after and have no money to carry out the decommissioning, the local citizens through tax increases will be stuck with those decommissioning costs (did you ever see the abandoned oil derricks in Texas, from an ecological standpoint we’re headed in the same direction). I only hope the county is smart enough to make the developer deposit money in an escrow earmarked for decommissioning. Again, within the PUC Order there are specifics about the documented requirements for decommissioning; those in charge of the Conditional Use Permit better hold them to those requirements.

]]> By: krayc http://biggovernment.com/tsteward/2009/12/04/threat-of-eminent-domain-hangs-in-the-air-over-minnesota-wind-power-project/comment-page-1/#comment-749786 krayc Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:16:10 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=41086#comment-749786 Without oil, wind turbines cannot exist The equipment that builds the roads to the sites, prepares the sites and digs foundation holes have to have oil, the trucks that transport gearboxes and blades need oil. The gearboxes in wind turbines have to have oil, The plastics and composites, the wind turbines are made of come from oil. The ore for the metal parts wind turbines are made of is mined with machines that use oil. Not one wind turbine can be manufactured, transported, installed, operated nor maintained without oil. Not one site for a wind turbine can be prepared without machines that depend on oil. Shouldn’t the Energy Dept. be spending more on oil R&D and less on wind turbine subsidies? Without oil, wind turbines cannot exist

The equipment that builds the roads to the sites, prepares the sites and digs foundation holes have to have oil, the trucks that transport gearboxes and blades need oil. The gearboxes in wind turbines have to have oil, The plastics and composites, the wind turbines are made of come from oil. The ore for the metal parts wind turbines are made of is mined with machines that use oil.

Not one wind turbine can be manufactured, transported, installed, operated nor maintained without oil. Not one site for a wind turbine can be prepared without machines that depend on oil.

Shouldn’t the Energy Dept. be spending more on oil R&D and less on wind turbine subsidies?

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