Why Are Economists Confused? Americans Aren’t
by Thomas Del BeccaroIf you look at statements made by Ben Bernanke over the last several years on the US economic outlook, they are not a model of consistency, let alone confidence building. Indeed, they reflect an economy that appears to be stopping and starting – subject to the vagaries of the world not driving the world’s economy. Many other economists are similarly uncertain as to why our economy is in such trouble. Real-world Americans, however, have no such confusion.
In April of 2010, the Federal Reserve Chairman said the economy had “staying power.” In August of 2010, Bernanke said, “The economy remains vulnerable to unexpected developments.” Early last month he stated: “U.S. economic growth so far this year looks to have been somewhat slower than expected.” Later in the month, he let us know that “We don’t have a precise read on why this slower pace of growth is persisting.”
On the other hand, we hear stories of banks and corporations flush with cash. For his part, Obama appears focused on luxurious corporate jets and the Left tells us (falsely) that taxes are at the lowest they have been in 50 years.
So why is the economy underperforming to their great confusion or surprise?
There are many reasons – but one central one. First, among the many reasons, are businesses’ fears of the costs of doing business in the future, including the costs of Obamacare. Adding to those fears are the costs of regulations (Obama’s and state regulators) and, of course, higher taxes. Also among the many reasons are the national debt and the debt of our states. Those amounts are so far past rationality and are paired with future entitlement requirements that are way beyond unsustainable. Combined, they produce economic fear, which translates quickly into economic caution which equals less economic activity.
No one is more fearful, however, than the average American consumer. The broader unemployment index is above 16%. The more narrow measure has hovered around or above 9% for a record period of time – years in fact. That takes a heavy toll on an economy based on consumers – a 70% consumer economy at that.
Reading from the 2009 Consumer Expenditure Survey, by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, we find that:
Spending on housing and transportation fell 1.3 percent and 11.0 percent, respectively, contributing to the overall drop in spending in 2009. Healthcare expenditures rose 5.0 percent, the only increase among the major components of spending. Among the other major components, food dropped 1.1 percent, apparel fell 4.2 percent, entertainment dropped 5.0 percent, and personal insurance and pensions fell 2.4 percent.
Get the picture? Discretionary spending plummeted while healthcare, never a desired expenditure, took a bigger bite out of people’s budgets. Since then, consumer spending has been as inconsistent as the economy or, more accurately, the inconsistent consumer spending has produced an inconsistent economy. Historically high unemployment will do that sort of thing. So too will the $6 trillion loss in homeowner equity over the last 5 years.
In plain truth, the American consumers, the focal point of our economy, do not have the money or savings or wealth they had before. They have much less and cannot sustain our economy right now let alone afford to bailout government. They are fearful – as consumer confidence surveys confirm – including a two-year low recorded, on July, 14, 2011, by Rasmussen for their Consumer Index . Threats of tax hikes, Obamacare, debt and the like, i.e. more government, only make matters worse.
The only thing that will help is if they have confidence that tomorrow will be better for them economically than today. Government programs simply can’t provide that; they never have – and that shouldn’t be confusing to anyone.







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Why are economists confused? I think you people use the title "economist" too loosely.
An economist studies the results of certain actions. Hence Von Mises' treatise "The Human Action." Economics is about human behavior. Why we get certain results from this policy and that policy. This is why the Austrian School was able to predict the recent crash while the Keynesian school is driving us further into debt pursuing their grudge.
Bernanke is not an economist. He, like Keynes, starts with the desired result then tries to justify it. Austrian's like Ron Paul and Peter Schiff merely observe, study and learn from historic actions. There are empirical truths that we cannot avoid. Sorry Utopians.
http://www.popmodal.com/video/2038/Psychic-Econom...
Most of the Economists who work for those that hold power inside of our Government today came from Harvard, Oxford and Burkey. If you look at the Alumni of those inside of our Government from these schools. One can ONLY assume they have the worst Economic Teaching Departments on the face of the Planet. The damage these Alumni have done to Capitalism, Freedom, Liberty, Generations who have not even been born yet and our Courts have driven our Country into so much Debt in the search for Social Justice. The rest of the World may need to decide if the USA is to big to fail?
Why Are Economists Confused?
Because they've most likely failed at math but was promised "economist positions" for dropping out of a race or two.
Well maybe it's time to hold those in the "elite" universities accountable for teaching crap. Bernanke should sue for his college tuition back!
No, its actualy quite simple… the Government is too involved in too much.
My Girlfriend has worked for the same small Construction company for 30 years. She used to spend all her time working on bidding for projects, and working through State and County Paperwork for those bids.
Now, about 80% of her time is spent not on bids, but on Audits from the Feds, States, and Unions, so they can have 'permission' to bid on State and County Projects. She words overtime on the bids (as the Auditors never work non banking hours) so the company can stay afloat…
THAT is what is killing our economy…. our Government.
LOL, That is good. Some one put it in the suggestion box!
Ben Bernanke and the rest of the government "economists" aren't confused, they are merely trying (unsuccessfully) to put some sort of positive spin on the actions they are deliberately taking to wreck our economy. They want this destruction, so they can institute a new, centrally planned economy to complete President Crybaby's "fundamental transformation" of the United States of America. None of this is by accident.
The "Austrian" economists were forced to flee early in the Nazi era because they couldn't tell the government what they wanted to hear. They couldn't tell them that their heavily managed economy could be sustained.
One of the empirical truths of economics, you can't print money without inflation. The more you print, the less your money is worth, the more goods and services cost. A lesson many Leftist nations learn the hard way.
These are things that we know to be facts. Yet nations still practice it and are surprised by rising costs. To me, a "Conservative" is one who has an appreciation for what works and what doesn't from a historical perspective. That is why we are not Socialists.
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bu11sh!t.
I am waiting for the Government Nanny Status to send a Certified Bottom Wiper to each home in the AM to inventory and monitor allowable squares of TP for that day have not been exceeded and the deed of the wipe has been done correctly to the specifications of the plunger team in the White House.
Name ONE TIME an economist was ever right about anything.
For those that don't know better: economics is NOT a real science, like physics or chemistry. Economics is basically the same as Weather Forecasting (not to be confused with the Climategate Left-wing Eco-nut Global Warming conspiracy/hoax – I mean people who actually TRY to accurately forecast something about the real weather), except economists must guess (that's the KEY word) at complex things that are different from temperature or rainfall. Once you understand that fact, you can ALWAYS and COMPLETELY safely ignore any statement made by any economist.
Why confused? Because they are progressives first and economists second.
Yep, like an obese jockey who only knows how to whip his horse ever harder. As the poor animal trudges slower and slower, it never occurs to the lard@$$ to get off or at least go on a diet.
They never had to sit on my side of the desk. If they did. They wouldn't act so dumb and advocate for such moronic ideas.
Note to Bernanke stability does come from a printing press or funny money. It comes from solid money and a banking policy that rewards wise lending and savings. This is cluster f%ck.
You can send' them to school but you can't make them think.
No point in explaining. A brain transplant would be required.
Economists are confused because they look at data models, not reality. Anything that doesn't fit in the bell curve is not worth discussing. But GUESS WHAT, economists? Our entire economic situation is now an outlier–a huge black swan. Deal with it or STFU.
My family's income has diminished by TWO-THIRDS because of my husband's layoff. You can bet your @ss we're not spending anything right now. Multiply that by, oh, the 16+ MILLION people out of work, and it's no wonder our country is in a helluva mess. We're all outside your g*ddamned bell curve, idiots!
Rush was right; control health care and you control every aspect of peoples' lives. To my thinking, if this does get past SCOTUS, that's when it's our duty to 'throw off such government' of absolute despotism, with extreme prejudice.
It's tough to keep lies straight.
It's just about time….
SCOTUS is compromised…..
google Peter Schiff.
http://www.popmodal.com/video/2038/Psychic-Econom...
Bingo. Like I said in a previous comment, they start with the result they want and then try to justify the chaos that ensues trying to get there.
In recent history I can only recall a couple of economists that had a decent grasp on things- Milton Friedman and Arthur Laffer.
It used to be 1 + 1 = 2 …today it is an "esoteric anything goes" hoping no one will question, let alone understand.
What Chairman O, George Soros, Nanny Psychosi, Harry The Hat, Tax Cheat Timmy and Bendover Bernanke are engaged in is nothing short of terrorism against the American people.
They should all be treated accordingly, we must NEVER negotiate with terrorists.
"I do not think it is an exaggeration to say history is largely a history of inflation, usually inflations engineered by governments for the gain of governments."
Friedrich August von Hayek
Soros in his own words. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/open-society-soro...
"I do not think it is an exaggeration to say history is largely a history of inflation, usually inflations engineered by governments for the gain of governments."
I think part of the original 'plan' was to get inflation up enough to smooth over the underwater mortgages in this country. The problem was that the stimulus spending didn't cover the job front.. and now we're just stuck with an inflated stock market (and banks) that operate outside of reality. Bravo.
Simpler example:
I work. I make a good living. My oldest son works part time, for spending money. No stress job. I cover his college expenses. I cover his food an shelter bills. He wanted a new car. I told him get what you can afford, your mom's and my budget won't cover helping you with car payments. We budget for our retirement, if I have to start paying for more things you feel you are entitle to, I won't be able to take care of myself anymore. He bought a car. Two months later, he said that he actually can't afford the payments and can I give him more money each month to help. So, my option are simple: I give him more money, and destroy MY future. He takes on a second part time job (which cuts into his fun time) but allows him to provide for himself. Or, he lets the car go and get one he can actually afford.
Why is this so hard?
Bernanke…is a liar…just like his lying messiah in our White House!
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BERNANKE THE BILDERBERG…
http://www.infowars.com/ben-bernanke-confronted-o...
BERNANKE 2008 & 2009 BILDERBERG ATTENDEE…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_p...
@Thomas – That was excellent, my friend. Excellent!
Joe – I think you meant "does NOT come from a printing press…", no?
"It depends on what the definition of "1" is.
You are correct. Than you for the help. You will get my next letter first!
It's not all that difficult…Simply pave the way for commerce to be the order of the day, by allowing the free market to determine what Americans actually want.
The government should NOT be in the position of picking winners and losers. Get out of our way.!
We, as Americans, have voted in an administration that has a major spending problem.(among many others)
We cannot afford this any longer.
No "debt ceiling" increase.
This will show the markets and the world, the US is serious about it's debt.
This gutsy act, alone, will be seen as a huge relief, to all who pay attention, causing the markets to eventually soar…after Omarxist s gone, that is..
LOL!
At this rate, I don't think you'll be waiting long.
LOL!
You guys are on a roll today!
Why are they confused? because they dabble in the world of theorycraft !!
"This should work. Based on my analysis, this should be the result". Built into it are several things.
1) Supreme arrogance in their knowledge
2) Supremely ignorant of their informational bias. They ONLY know Keynesian philosophy and have chosen to exclude the writings of Mises, Hayek, Friedman, Milton, etc. They have an EXTREMELY biased knowledge base that they refuse to acknowledge
3) Complete lack of leadership stemming from 1+2. They are SO arrogant, SO sure of themselves that when the real world fails to adapt to meet their hypothesis, they fail to question if the hypothesis was wrong. Oh no. It just wasn't done on a big enough scale, was mishandled by their political opposition etc. Even when the SAME policies failed elsewhere over hundreds of years, it's not that the hypothesis was wrong, it's just that those people weren't as smart as our supremely brilliant morons.
zerohedge and other economic sites that actually SEE the facts as the real world presents them referes to Ben as "the bernank" and the "chairsatan"
Hell Paul Krugman had to shut down the comments thread of his NYT articles because he kept getting EPICALLY owned by austrian economists who would refute EVERYTHING he posted.
These "brilliant" supremely arrogant idiots surround themselves with like minded cheer leaders who all have an amazing ability to ignore reality.
Amen! Actually, I think what's going on with the debt ceiling and the budget, etc. is going to hit the fan first.
If the Republicans cave in any way shape or form, then I am definitely ready to "throw off such government of absolute despotism, with extreme prejudice."
Beautiful example Joseph. You are doing a good job raising your children.
God bless.
Does anyone in DC own a calculator and if they do, do they know how to use it? Oh, but wait, you'd have to have a brain in order to know how to use a calculator and it appears that no one in DC has either!
That is why they rejected the Austrians and embraced Keynes. He is the one who gave validity to the idea that you can spend your way to prosperity. And of course the more money we print, the more money the Federal Reserve (a private bank) earns.
When concerns about debt were raised, Keynes said something like, "in the future we're all dead anyway."
FDR was outspoken about having inflation as a policy. http://www.popmodal.com/video/2066/Vintage-pro-in...
Bernanke is no economist. He is financier/banker. His knowledge is Great Depression economics but seems to have held to the model that after learning something he did an immediate data dump. What prolonged the economic trough of the Great Depression? Keynesian economics. Where does government get any money they have? Taxpayers. How do you spend money that isn't there? Wave a magic wand and fire up the printers. Can we say QE1, QE2, and as soon as the debt ceiling is raised we will hear calls for QE3? Monetizing debt didn't work for the Weimar Republic, but according to progressive socialists it will work for us. Oh, the insanity.
Bernie and his peers are focused on following their sorosian orders…to hell with WE THE PEOPLE…PIRATES on Parade marching for One Global Order….spit…
Looks like even the progressive commies at the UN aren't as confused as Obama and his economists.
They quietly issued a report admitting that WEALTH CREATION not redistribution is the effective way to fight poverty.
GO FIGURE, Obama……you loser.
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/grudgingly+a...
A very real picture was painted for us when Bernanke was asked. "I know your working hard, but who are you working for?" Does anyone really think this guy cares about America? Really? Same with Gietner the tax cheat. He represents others just like his Muslim boss.
Always remember there are two games going on.
Obama promoting Muslim Brotherhood.
And Obama helping the NWO bankers and warlocks get complete power.
Agreed–you/your family live within your means–the govt doesn't. Harry Reid has said there needs to be "shared sacrifice" from millionaires/billionaires–I say, Congress/BHO–put your own money where your mouth is!
"Just 1 percent of Americans are millionaires, 66 percent of senators are millionaires, as are 41 percent of House members (based on 2009 data)."
"Even the 2010 elections, with its promises to "take our country back," produced a freshman class of senators with a median net worth of close to $4 million. The median net worth of freshman House members is more than half a million dollars, according the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington-based, non-partisan research group that tracks the effect of money on elections and public policy." http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20075586-5...
"While the base pay for members of Congress is $174,000, nearly half — 261, to be exact — are millionaires, according to an analysis of 2009 data from the Center for Responsive Politics (there are 535 total members of the House and Senate). Just 1 percent of Americans overall can say the same."
"As many as 55 members had an average calculated wealth of $10 million or more in 2009, according to the Center."
"Members of Congress are only required to report their wealth and liabilities in broad ranges, so the Center calculated each member's average estimated wealth by determining the minimum and maximum value of their assets. Additionally, federal financial disclosures don't require members of Congress to report certain assets such as personal residences." (so they could be worth more than is required to report) http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20023147-5....
The point of these articles, let the Congress lead by example and fore go some of their own wealth to pay down the debt if they feel that millionaires/billionaires need to pay their fair share (which IMO, they already do)–actions speak louder than words right?
Friedman is definitely an Austrian. I like Laffer but here he is in an old video debating Peter Schiff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfascZSTU4o&NR...
my point is that this is EXACTLY what America is faced with…..
"Agreed–you/your family live within your means–the govt doesn't."
And that is my point, the government is faced with exactly the same issues as I am…..but they give in to the 'kid'. They don't tell the kid, well, take a second job and see if you can work it out…..the don't tell the kid, no you can't have it, try again with a smaller demand that is affordable…..
they give the kid the money and crush our future.
Because every one of these economists have the god/savior mentality. Each wish to be viewed as saving the world. Its all about being on the front page.
Ignorant arrogance or arrogant ignorance. I like them both as descriptives for the regressive hordes.
If Americans do NOT get their social security checks it is because Barack Obama is withholding them from you. There is enough money collected in revenues each month to pay these checks. This is what is called "Obama Extortion"! It isn't going to work. With due respect Mr. President but take this social security check and shove it where the sun doesn't shine!
1. http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/13/fact-if-social...
2. http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/12/allen-west-rip...
3. http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/07/obama...
4. http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/07/gover...
They are not confused. They are trying to maintain momentum of a flawed system that took thirty years to construct. It's a system that will collapse under it's own gravity if it doesn't keep 'spinning'. It is a system that has served their buddies very well while bleeding the middle class dry. They overplayed their hand and, now, we won't play their game anymore – we won't fuel the system. Trust your 401K? Want to put more in there?
I used to have a recurring 'insecurity' dream that turns out to be somewhat common: I was holding a large boulder over my head and my arms were quivering. How do you escape that situation? That's where we're at now. And that's why they are scared big-time.
If Americans do NOT get their social security checks it is because Barack Obama is withholding them from you. There is enough money collected in revenues each month to pay these checks. This is what is called "Obama Extortion"! It isn't going to work. With due respect Mr. President but take this social security check and shove it where the sun doesn't shine!
1. http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/13/fact-if-social...
2. http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/12/allen-west-rip...
3. http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/07/obama...
4. http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/07/gover...
If Americans do NOT get their social security checks it is because Barack Obama is withholding them from you. There is enough money collected in revenues each month to pay these checks. This is what is called "Obama Extortion"! It isn't going to work. With due respect Mr. President but take this social security check and shove it where the sun doesn't shine!
1. http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/13/fact-if-social...
2. http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/12/allen-west-rip...
3. http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/07/obama...
4. http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/07/gover...
One look at Ben Bernanke and you understand why economics is referred to as "the dismal science." I'm no economist (though I am willing to play one on TV) but I still don't see how you can erase government debt by borrowing more money. I have heard the sophisticated arguments that more debt is necessary to "get the conomy going" but, if that's the case, then the U.S. should be an economic powerhouse considering the amount of debt that we are already in.
My emerging view is that the economic brain-trusters (both on the right and the left) simply don't know what they're doing. They are guessing in a political environment where their guesses more or less have to come out in agreement with their political masters.
“A coward dies a thousand deaths, a hero, dies but one.
July 14, 2011
Dear President Obama,
One of the reasons I could never be President is I have never served my country. You could say for too long I met the minimum standards of citizenship. When my local congressman lost to a guy who wrote and sang “You’re the one.” I had to get involved. I wrote that guy letters, and sent them to the local paper, just like I’m doing to you, just I’m posting them online. To me, you and he, are the same political animals you are just bigger. Be not afraid I say. While I never had the courage to raise my right hand I’m damned certain that I will not be afraid to speak my mind at what Mr. Hall did or you are doing to this nation. Just considering the sacrifices that those service members made, and all the others make on a daily bases protecting this nation – I must speak out. So when you act like a child and storm out of a room without negotiating into the wee hours of the morning you demonstrate that you are not capable of hashing out a compromise, you demonstrate that it is you whom are unwilling to adjust your expectations in light of a new political reality.
Mr. Obama the American people are well aware of what the government wastes their money on, and they want it to stop. They are not saying a State can’t use its money as it sees fit to do. They are saying that we want the federal government to be brought back into some semblance of balance with its debt and deficits and begin to get on the long and, may I say, verifiable path back to fiscal sanity. I know, and so do they, that this is largely a fantasy with people like you who are bought and paid for ruling the roost. I sometimes wonder why the taxpayers not only have to pay for your stupidity, but your salary too. Talk about adding insult to injury.
Ever visit Pearl Harbor while you were growing up in the rough and tumble neighborhoods of Hawaii? If you had you would have learned what tough really is. If you had stared down and imagined what those men faced in their last moments as they struggled for breath, if you had done some of this introspection at a younger age, then you might be great President now. What a shame. Regardless, enjoy your birthday Mr. Obama, like the man said in the movie, “They’re paying for it, you eat it!” Make no mistake Mr. Obama someone else is paying for everything you do.
Do you ever wonder what they want for their money?
We know, and we do not want it. It is time to compromise. Or are you too much of an infant to do that?
Respectfully,
Joe Doakes
Those Peter Schiff videos have always been hilarious. He sat there essentially telling all these goobers what should have been plain as day (namely that the market was out of control and destined for the mother of all crashes), and the morons laughed like he was telling them the sky was green.
In my opinion, Keynesianism is the economic equivalent of playing make-believe. The basic precepts are these: A) Government can fix anything, much like a superhero; B) Market forces are wholly unpredictable, which is why we need the superhero government; and C) The economy can be manipulated like a giant vat of chemicals, i.e. adding and taking away certain ingredients and manipulating their ratios can force the economy to behave in certain ways that will benefit everyone.
The problem, though, is that the government is Lex Luthor.
p.s. Props to Ron Paul for giving Bernanke a beat-down yesterday when it comes to gold.
Always good to have a few extra mags with you… and fixed bayonets.
/safety off
Bernanke is an admitted and ardent believer of the Keynesian model and lacks objectivity. He's the last person you'd want running a bank.
Schiff was Ron Paul's economic adviser during the 08 election. I predict Rand Paul and Peter Schiff 2016.
His extortion plot exposes the social security fraud. The money collected from our paychecks is ear marked for social security. So how is it that the money isn't there to be paid out? It should have nothing to do with the deficit or the rest of our budget.
It's either being looted or it's a ponzi scam. Or both.
Exactly, almost. Only they will never define it – they make it up as they go as well as change it as they go.
Ron Paul 's First Official TV Campaign Ad – Conviction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...
The difference between you, your son, and the government. There is no mechanism whereby we can say NO to the government short of open rebellion. This is the problem with the 16th amendment. Perhaps instead of the balanced budget amendment, the Reps should be pushing an amendment to repeal the 16th.
Ron has gotten such a bad rap as a "fringe" candidate and people write him off as having no chance. But he has done more to raise awareness than any other figure in decades.
They say he's not a real Republican. But now you have the party moving towards him. I feel that we don't hurt enough as a nation. We'll have to suffer through another 4 years. Then Rand will win a landslide and have 8 years to turn it all around. (fingers crossed)
How many of these economist view the economy as more then an academic problem to be discussed?
Art Laffer has been dead on several times in recent memory.
The Left hates the gold standard because it limits their ability to spend. (buy votes)
The dollar used to be redeemable in gold until the 1970's when governments actually wanted to exchange them for gold. Problem was . . . we didn't have the gold to do it. From that point on the dollar was based on the Federal Reserve's good word. And their is a good chance that the Fed has confiscated our gold as collateral against our debt. We'll never know because Congress won't audit them.
Economists re confused because the American people told Democrats – liberals- progressives to put their money where their mouths were and handed them control, unobstructed control of the legislative and executive controls of this country (2006 and 2008). With no ability to point the finger at the "other" party for obstruction, they didn't do what they said they would and they did do the very things they complained about. However, they did spend every cent, borrowed and otherwise, they could possibly dream up. All they bought was a huge amount of debt and we are no better off than we were. Indeed, we are in worse shape than ever. The confusion is setting in because they are so indebted to their ideological dogma that the only way to remove the confusion is to admit that their entire premise is flawed – wrong- incorrect- stupid- dumb- harmful – foolish – childish- unworkable.
Laffer explains the Curve here: http://www.popmodal.com/video/1172/p1-The-Laffer-...
The reason that it is so hard for politicians to actually lead our country like most Americans do their families is that they are trying to get elected for their own goals. Our elected politicians will do what ever they can to maintain there political elite position regardless if they are a dem or repub. Until we find enough elected officials that are willing to be good stewards of the people we are going to continue to have the elected political elite catering how ever they can to get reelected. Most people who get elected have the misguided belief they are being elected to solve every ones problem and unfortunately there is a significant portion of the population that share their belief.
Question: Does the Constitution limit the people of this country or does it limit the Federal Govt?
How do you get a group of so called experts that treat every thing as an academic problem to come to their senses?
This is his time! Put Ron Paul and Gary Johnson together, that is a freedom ticket from federal tyranny if there ever was one. I have already started my contributions for both. The Ron Paul revolution has grown across college campuses everywhere across America..
Both.
I think it's more about following the money and having skin in the game. If your local news meteorologist is always wrong, he/she loses a job. If an economist is always wrong, they write a few articles in good ol' boy journals and get tenure.
I would always look toward finance gurus before I pay any heed to economists. Finance folks, with their fortunes and possibly the fortune of others at stake, will do what they must to make money. It's like the difference between a NASCAR driver and someone who studies the popularity of NASCAR — one wants to win, one just wants to do enough research to do a study and keep the grant money coming in.
Thorazine?
"Question: Does the Constitution limit the people of this country or does it limit the Federal Govt? "
YES.
There is no social security trust fund. That is a big lie. There are nothing but IOU's in it. The money collected from social security goes to the general fund and has since the 60's. Thank you LBJ and you great society.
'Not sure that's not the root of the problem rather than the cure. Good afternoon, P.
Don't ever sell Snake Benny Bernanke short, he knows exactly what he's doing and where the money's going. Printing money for the spread of Keynesian foolhardiness is his first pillar.
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." ~~Thomas Jefferson
Good afternoon to you too. You know, if the cure don't kill you…
Well brother, I don't think that I could say it better, so I will let Mr. Madison say it for me.
“But what is government itself, but the greatness of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.” James Madison-Federalist 51
Amen to that bro.
Thomas, you are not a highly trained intellectual like Mr. Bernanke. This is a very complicated problem that only university-trained PhDs can figure out. Please stand back and give him room.
At least Greenspan knew how to double-talk and blow smoke with some skill. This guy is clueless on a number of levels.
That was a great analysis BTW. Good stuff there.
that's a pretty good analogy. the finance people are largely dependent on math, some reasonably real numbers, and usually have some skin in the game. economists are basically behavioral scientists guessing what large numbers of people will do, and especially in the case of government & academic economists, they have virtually nothing on the line, right, wrong, or indifferent.
there are definitely some hard rules to econ- most notably the law of supply & demand, which is close to being as absolute as the laws of thermodynamics, but there's always that human factor putting weird English on the ball…
or make up bs excuses for why they were wrong (always someone else's fault) and why we should still trust them the next time.
"There are many reasons – but one central one. First, among the many reasons, are businesses’ fears of the costs of doing business in the future, including the costs of Obamacare. Adding to those fears are the costs of regulations (Obama’s and state regulators) and, of course, higher taxes. Also among the many reasons are the national debt and the debt of our states. Those amounts are so far past rationality and are paired with future entitlement requirements that are way beyond unsustainable. Combined, they produce economic fear, which translates quickly into economic caution which equals less economic activity."
This, beyond dependence on flawed Keynesian and socialist theory, is the major reason economists are alchemists and not scientists. They will never be able to "control" economies because economies are 75% in the heads of common human beings. Dreams, ambitions, fears, concerns, goals, hopes, desires, yearnings, aspirations, lusts …. things that economists can never reduce into formulas and algorithms. At best, their machinations have the effect of slightly redirecting, at worst, crippling.
Thanks! There is a major disconnect that almost everyone sees.Imagined but highly probable interview:Recruiter: “Dr. Neverwright, you've published predictive studies for many years now, none of them have come true — in fact the exact inverse has always occurred. We're worried you don't have the expertise to work here.”Dr. Neverwright: “I have a Ph.D. from Harvard, a Nobel Prize in Economics, and have been teaching economics in the Ivy League for my entire career.”Recruiter: “Well alrighty then. Welcome aboard Dr.!”
The Fed economists aren't confused at all. They KNOW which way to push in order for the Fed Reserve to keep sucking like a parasite on the American economy.
A keen observation. John Maynard Keynes was a very successful investor. He likened the stock market to these beauty contests that newspapers used to have. "Pick the winner" type thing. You didn't win by picking the most beautiful girl, you won by picking the girl that you think OTHER people think is the most beautiful. Same with stocks.
The only confusion these E-Communists have is how to perpetuate their lies and fraud against a people that are waking up to their bull$h!t.
It sure is.
If we closed every federal bureaucracy that is not justified by powers granted to the federal government in the US Constitution – interpreted narrowly and without exaggeration – the economy would revive INSTANTLY.
Instead…the Democrats are deliberately destroying the US economy so that they can replace it with a socialist system that we do not want.
"The rest of the World may need to decide if the USA is to big to fail."
Now there's an interesting concept. Perhaps China, the UK, Japan, et al, should consider whether it would serve their interests for them to service our debt – i.e. bail us out.
Burkey? That made me laugh. Did you spell it that way on purpose?
Two Democrats on an Escalator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWttKddn_Hw
Two Democrats on an Escalator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWttKddn_Hw
Dr. Neverwright. aka Paul Krugman.
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