Obama Completes the Liberal Hat Trick
by Thomas Del BeccaroIn hockey, rough sport that it is, it is rare that one player scores three goals in one game. They call that a Hat Trick. In the game of politics, Obama now has managed the Liberal Hat Trick in the minds of the American Public. In November, he may just find out how rough politics can be.

Of course, many people have known for a long time just how liberal Obama is and was. There were many warning signs in the last election cycle. The public however, in this slightly Right of Center nation, either was so tired of ineffective Republicans or, with the help of the Media, refused to acknowledge the warning signs. In doing so they elected Obama with 52.9% of the vote – a victory but not an overwhelming victory.
Large margin or not, since being inaugurated, Obama has run quickly to the Left. In doing so, he fulfilled Reagan’s warning that Democrat Presidential candidates run as moderates but are determined to govern more to the Left, i.e. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. The Obama Administration’s response to the terrorist bomb attempt in Detroit completed that process in the minds of the American public.
The Liberal Hat Trick, to which I refer, is when a politician firmly establishes himself as (1) for higher taxes while spending out of control, i.e. being anti – prosperity, (2) being socially liberal if not antagonistic to American traditions, and (3) being weak on defense.
1. High Tax/High Spending Obama. During the campaign, Obama warned us that he was anti-capitalist and anti-prosperity when he stated over and over that he was against the Bush tax cuts – tax cuts that brought us out of a recession and produced over 50 consecutive months of job growth. Obama said over and over again that the rich didn’t ask for the tax cuts and didn’t need them. Now Americans by a 3 to 1 margin believe that tax cuts would revive the economy more than Obama’s spending. As for the staggering growth in spending, a plurality now believe that the Stimulus Bill has hurt the economy more than helped it and concerns for the deficit poll far higher than concerns over health care.
2. Socially Liberal/Antagonistic to American Traditions. Most Americans knew Obama was liberal on social issues when he was elected. Since his inauguration, he has done nothing to convince people otherwise including (a) his first week in office lifting of the restrictions on funding for groups that provide abortion services or counseling abroad, reversing the policy of his Republican predecessor, and (b) extending federal benefits to gay domestic partners. Beyond that, Obama became the Apologist-in-Chief to the distaste of many Americans by going around the World and bowing to dictators and apologizing for America’s “actions.” All in all, a year into his Presidency, Americans understand well what they knew at the outset, that Obama’s social views are clearly Left of Center.
3. Weak on Defense. Few Americans expected Obama to be strong on defense let alone a hawk. Indeed, the Far Left was motivated by the idea that he would get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan as a matter of course not success. True to form, since his election, Obama has shown to be tepid at best on foreign policy with regard to such high profile issues as Iran, Israeli security and European missiles.
The Detroit terrorism issue, however, is different by a large order of magnitude. Whereas Israel may be far away to some and few and have seen a missile – making such issues distant in time and space to most which allows people to ignore the issue - personal safety in the homeland is anything but far away – geographically or mentally. In other words, his weakness on defense is now close to home and that should have major political consequences.
Recall that the “security” issue among “soccer moms” was a significant issue during the Bush years that changed the political landscape. Now consider Obama’s weak response to the Detroit terror attack; combine that with the ludicrous Napolitano and her working system and the understanding that Obama has left vacant the heads of TSA and the Customs and Border Protection agency. Little wonder voters are questioning his priorities.
Witness also that even the liberal lioness Maureen Dowd is openly questioning whether we are safe under Obama and the astonishing 30% jump to 70% in those that expect another attack. It is hard now but to conclude that Americans are clearly concerned and focused on their safety and whether Obama is strong enough to protect us.
In sum, along with their view that he is liberal on fiscal and social issues, Obama has firmly completed the Liberal Hat Trick in the minds of the majority of American voters – all to the great peril of his fellow Democrats and to the great opportunity of Republicans in November of 2010.






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BO is just running this passenger train that both parties built on a track destined for socialism. This has been The United States of the Republicans/democrats for a long time. The voice of dissention has been silenced because us serfs can’t afford to play unless we accept their corruption.
Time to fire up the Zamboni and clear the surface of all the defects.
If you think it is bad now, give these socialist bas**&*& another few months. They are running this country into the ground on purpose. I fear for our future. What kind of country are our grandchildren going to inherit? I dare say that it will be just another banana republic with no future and no hope.
"….either was so tired of ineffective Republicans or…"
No, tired of treasonous Republicans that place Israel's interests, like invading Arab countries they want invaded, above those of our own. All Obama had to say was he was opposed to that and he had a lock on the election. Granted, those of us following things more closely knew he was a war monger as bad as Bush was, but perception is what counted then.
"Weak on Defense" – what issue do you mean about Iran? Iran is abiding by the NNPT. Israel refuses to even sign it. Shouldn't Israel and their WMDs they wave in people's faces causing the destabilization and arms race in the Middle East be the issue. What does all this have to do with defense – this nation is literally being invaded from Mexico and Bush was not only weak on defense, he actually aided and abetted the invaders by offering them rewards!!!!!!!!!
BTW, Israel killed 34 Americans on the USS Liberty and the weak on defense President LBJ recalled the fighters going to their rescue which allowed the Israeli torpedo boats to kill more Americans and try to sink the ship to destroy the evidence yet still failed. Your defense of THEM should bring YOUR loyalty in to question.
According to the official story we were attacked by immigrants. So, why didn't we stop immigration? Either the attack was not done by who they said it was OR the government WANTS the threat here so they can justify expansion of government powers at the expense of our wealth and liberty.
No, no, no. Now we hear that "prosecutors" are offering a PLEA DEAL to the panty-bomber in exchange for his "cooperation."
Obummer really just wanted to "be" the POTUs, he didn't really want to "BE" the potus. Kinida like being president of the Haaaaaaaaaavadh Law Review.
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The Anti Liberal Zone
i reject the idea that we are a 'slightly right of center country'. i believe that as individuals, we are overwhelmingly conservative. the problem has been in how these concepts have been articulated and even more so how they are applied in governing a city/state/country.
When anyone wears the uniform of the R or D they are really wearing a giant G.. for government. When a party use the power and wealth of government to maintain their power they are a government party. It is amazing how many defend corruption at any cost just so they can be on a winning team even though they sacrificed themselves and their posterity. You can not steal another man’s freedom without the selling of your own , because today you might send me to the ovens, but tomorrow you will join me.
I can see him going for a double hat trick…
That's why the Dem's have tried to change the demographics of the nation. I hear Republicans all the time try to rationalize things by claiming immigrants are conservative because they feel powerless to stop the massive influx of foreigners. You try to tell yourself they are all closet conservatives so you can sleep at night but you aren't fooling anyone – even yourself. Nearly all of them come from areas where liberty is foreign to their minds and government is the answer.
That, my friend, is an assinine post !
There seem to be so few true conservatives in congress, repubs/dems two sides of the same coin.
I see someone flying the flag of a foreign nation that killed 34 Americans. Are you loyal to the US or Israel?
Ditto !
Yours is an ineffective retort.
How is it any different than anything else this useless asshole posts. Obviously, Israel and the JEWZ are the reason this world is so screwed up – GIVE ME A BREAK. Dhasselhoff – move to IRAN and go join your buddy IMADINNERJACKET.
Perhaps Obama should reread "The Story of Civilization"
"The intellectual man is a danger to the state because he thinks in terms of regulations and laws; he wished to constrcut a society like geometry, and does not realize that such regulation destroys the living freedom and vigor of the parts." –Will Durant
http://www.IsThisTheChangeWeNeed.com/webblog
Dhassselhoff – have a nice day. Can you please leave us for the next 24 hours?
Both are on the same side of the coin. Truth, honor, and integrity are on the other side.
Wow – a post without ripping the JEWZ. You must have slipped.
I did not write a retort, I gave my opinion. Do you know the difference?
The world in general depends upon the United States having a strong military and it's ability to strike in defense of our nation and our allies. If the left's plan to dismantle our military and it's preparedness continues it will be open season on the United States and the European nations. Ronald Reagan won the cold war essentially without firing a shot because our opposition knew he was prepared to fire that shot.
Amnesty?
When the law is not enforced there is no law, when there is no law there is no republic. When you reward those who willfully break our laws then you punish all who obey all laws. How many Americans must be destroyed and forced to sacrifice their lives, homes, families, businesses, jobs, and way of life to placate this elitist folly. The working class people will pay dearly for this misguided and criminal compassion. Where is the compassion for the men women of America who obey the laws.
Also with returning veterans and all those veterans who are or about to face unemployment. This country should be out rage by any talk of amnesty because it clearly says the parties prefer to protect their power then protect American veterans from un lawful acts.
It isn't any different than his usual drivel.
For the power of man to make himself what he pleases means, as we have seen,
the power of some men to make other men what they please.
–C. S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man
typical lefty troll.
They have no compassion for us, we're already paying, I know I am.
Fraudbama has finally been exposed and will take himself down along with his fellow Obacrats in November 2010. Well we can hope as conservative Americans anyway… We as Americans don't like being told what to do, where to go, what to buy, how to eat, when to sleep, how warm our homes can be, what light bulbs we must buy, forced to use solar panels, windmills and plant gardens. This is pure insanity what Fraudbama and his fellow obamcrats have done and in such short order!!!
Can't you come up with something new? That is getting old….
There is a difference between Republican and Conservatives. There are many who consider ourselves Conservatives and not necessarily Republicans.
I have been paying all my life and I am sick out it. I served my country and yet I feel like I am man without a country.
Get ready people… 3 more years of this.. Hope we make it.
this is at least the second time that Jackenhoff has brought up the USS Liberty. for those who don't know, this happened 42 FREAKIN' YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!! that's right, his big point of attacking the EVIL ZIONISTS is something that occurred in 1967, during the 6 Day War. and altho he keeps bringing it up, he offers no plausible, long-term political explanation for the Israelis' actions. yeah, yeah, yeah- it was horrible, there are unanswered questions, etc. moving on……..
FYI, Jackenhoff, radical Islam has attacked us somewhat more recently than 1967. Would I trust the Israelis in bed with my niece? Probably not. But do I trust them more than any Islamic country in our current state of affairs? An absolutely unqualified YES.
i stand corrected. he's now mentioned the USS Liberty at least THREE times…
Exactly – guy never did a thing in his life, but hold the "title". Law Review – did nothing, did not even submit a publishable article as required for the position. Taught Constitutional Law, but had his classes canceled after students complained all he did was sit around in class and talk sports, and BS. Community organizer who did nothing for the community. State rep – voted "present" when he showed up at all. Congress, voted present, and never even attended the committee meetings of the committee he was head of. Never on time for any meeting, even now. Always wants the title, never wants the work that goes along with it. Now its all Wednesday party night, Weekend Golf, and as many trips on AF1 he can get, and let Congress and the radical losers he brought on board do it all. What a great leader – NOT!
All this and yet some people are still blind enough to follow/support NObama. Kind of scary to think about how ignorant some people in this country are…
I guess it's time. All these years the world has said with both gratitude and green-eyed envy, " What would we do without the Americans?" Gonna find out. Please God, let it be Israel. After this latest attack on an airliner, I have concluded, we should simply close the White House, turn out the lights, cut thel ast check, send everyone back to Chicago. At least we'll get spending down. They've already begun closing Embassies where it's dangerous.
Nature abhors a vacuum. Well there is one in Washington, at the White House. Empty vapid people.
Somebody is gonna fill that vacuum. And then everyone will say "Where are the Americans?"
Noted today, "he's back". Tell me, how would anyone know if it weren't published?
Hattrick my A$$
Three strikes your OUT!!!
Its about all one can expect from a dolt…
"But do I trust them more than any Islamic country in our current state of affairs? An absolutely unqualified YES."
If you depend on what Israel tells you, how can you arrive at any other conclusion, right?
BTW, Iran never attacked us.
That's what I thought.
President Obama recently named Amanda Simpson to be a Senior Technical Advisor to the Commerce Department.
In a statement, Simpson, a member of the National Center for Transgender Equality's board of directors, said that "as one of the first transgender presidential appointees to the federal government, I hope that I will soon be one of hundreds, and that this appointment opens future opportunities for many others."
A 2004 YWCA "Woman on the Move," Simpson recently served as Deputy Director in Advanced Technology Development at Raytheon Missile Systems in Tucson, Arizona.
At Raytheon, Simpson — a former test pilot who had worked for the company for more than a generation — transitioned from male to female and was instrumental in convincing the military contractor to add gender identity and expression to its equal employment opportunity policy.
She later ran unsuccessfully for Congress and was a delegate for then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, to the Democratic National Convention in 2008.
Convinced that the radical left is practicing the Cloward-Piven theory of controlled chaos.
"The way to dstroy capitalism is to debauch the currency." Vladimer Lenin
Right!! Now watch as he makes an entire country disappear before our very eyes.
Also, the original poster brought up Israel.
They are on different sides of the aisle, but on the same bus, going in the same direction.
No he doesn't, I fear truthers in general are mostly brain dead
This guy and a few of his aliases plus a few of his buddies are truther trolls, why they think they will get any play here I have no idea.
He is a truther nazi, biggot, asshat and thinks he can recruit on this site.
I wonder what Obam the great has up his sleeve when he loses absolute control of the houses, he thinks it's tough now when all he has to fight is his own party?
LMAO
Then don't reply to his idiotic posts. It only encourages him.
It would appear that they are debauching not only the currency but every aspect of our society as well. They are doing it with a speed that indicates either a) they have a deadline-2010 elections perhaps?-or b) they feel so assured of success that they have no fear of the electorate.
Pathetic leadership.
Obama is no liberal in the classic sense. What Obama is…. a big government corporatist (aka neo-liberal)
He saved the big banks and their bonuses, he catered to the health insurance companies and pharma, he catered to GM and Chrysler.
Trust me folks the left is just as pissed as the right. Unfortunately the right keeps shouting socialist. To claim Obama as being a socialist is insulting to the socialists in this country.
He is a sellout who is using his office to enrich those who already are rich.
What a fruitcake you are. Yes, let's align ourselves with the Arabs. In fact, let's allow Muslims to assimilate in this country and they can take over in a bloodless coup by the year 2020. They speak about that in Saudi Arabia. In fact, CAIR (the unindicted co-conspirator to Hamas) speaks about it also. In fact, Obozo gave them millions of $$$$ from the stimu-less bill. He also gave $800 million to Hamas (you know, the terrorist organization) and invited 200,000 Hamas refugees to emigrate to the US to partake of all the goodies.
Saudi Arabia has already given Israel their complete support should Israel see the need to bomb Iran. That's how nervous the Arabs are about the nutjob in Iran. The Iranians are trying to overthrow their own government. You will notice how our Dear Reader doesn't offer his support. He probably fears his soon-to-be Draconian measures here will conjure up the same kind of sentiment, so how can he show support?
According to those who edited the HLR, he was made the president because he slapped people on the back and organized the coffees. You know, using that innate charm that has gotten him far in life. That and the ability to finesse a teleprompter. Don't forget; he was an Acorn trainer who encouraged the downtrodden to engage in "sit-in's" in front of banks and mortgage lenders – the kind of practice that eventually led to the housing collapse. Now he blames it all on Bush, yet he still "encourages" the same lending practices.
That's why he ended the DC voucher program. Not only because the Dems are in bed with the teachers' unions, but because he has to keep blacks poor and uneducated so that they'd appreciate the crumbs the Dems give them every election season in exchange for their vote. If they were educated, they'd want to hold onto their money and move to the suburbs. Can't have that. They might then vote for a Republican.
Tom your lists are getting shorter. I guess when you put the words "hat trick" in the title you can't justify four main points…
1. The Bush tax cuts gave us a couple of years of stimulus and a generation of debt. While cutting taxes for his buds at the club he managed to fight two wars that would not even count in the budget. Then finally on his way out the door he handed us the largest banking meltdown since the great depression. Then he sent trolls like you out to biggovernment.com to point fingers at Obama.
2. I'm not sure what to make of your second main point. Obama is a liberal Democrat who made no secret of his agenda during the campaign, and people responded. They gave him $150 million and 10 million more votes that the other guy. Now you are screaming "Liberal"! We know he's a lib, that's why we voted for him.
3. Obama Weak on Defense… ahhh, that old chestnut. Makes any teabagger all warm and happy on the inside. Problem is, it is not, nor has it ever been true. The president has made hard choices that needed to be made on current and future weapons procurement issues and they will serve us well in the next decade. I was hoping he would not commit us to a greater presence in Afghanistan, but commit us he has. It remains to be seen if our presence there makes us safer. We are standing here at year number eight without a lot to show for our trouble.
Let's stop pretending that we are somehow safer under a Republican president when it is almost impossible to tell the difference of which party is in office based on policy decisions.
seems we need to FLIP that coin.
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I hear you, but BIG change is coming, stay the course.
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i had a business partner like him once. he wanted all of the credit, half of the money, and none of the work.
The boy-"president", Jokebama… just another silly half-breed liberal c0cksucker in a suit.
or Conservative by choice, but due to our 2 party system, reluctant Republicans by necessity.
the only thing i find shocking about this is that BHO & Co. may have accidentally hired somebody who is actually qualified, through real world work experience in the private sector, to do the job they'll be paid for. somebody must have f___ed up…
"Obama is a liberal Democrat who made no secret of his agenda during the campaign…" Barack Hussein Obama! mmmm, mmmm, mmmm!!!
mmmmmm… dittoheads. Give us some more of Rush's clever insight.
You are one angry teabagger. The president must be doing something right to cause this kind of vitriol. I promised myself I would give baggers the benefit of the doubt today and not call out the racists, but I may have to make an exception for one as determined as you.
I hope you are wrong Dave, but I fear there is more than a grain of truth here.
You've obviously mistaken me for someone that gives a shlt about your opinion.
Address your sanctimonious comments elsewhere, assh0le.
Reagan did not win the cold war. The Truman Doctrine outlined the containment strategy that was carried out by nine presidents of both parties. Finally Soviet Communism collapsed from within. Reagan did noting that all of the other presidents didn't do.
In Israel they already speak about controlling the US – only difference is, our policy proves it.
If you don't want those people to come here you better tell Israel to get off their land.
Does this sound remotely familar? It should, for you wrote most of it elsehwere:
"You are one angry [liberal]. [Rush] must be doing something right to cause this kind of vitriol."
no problem there..
You mean the MONARCHY of Saudi Arabia???? A true testament to how your POV is queered when you insist on a Israel-is-always-faultless POV. Standing up for allies of Apartheid South Africa (Israel) and Monarchies (Saudi Arabia) rather than democratic republics like Iran where protests are tolerated (try that crap they are trying to pull in Iran in SA and see what happens.)
"The Iranians are trying to overthrow their own government."
The Iranians did have a revolution like we did in the US and overthrew a king. A king that our rogue CIA put in power (Operation Ajax).
Now they are trying to pull off another Operation Ajax.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_...
SOOOOOO, what you seem to fear others doing here *WE* are doing to THEM. What makes you think they would like it?
A feisty little teabagger. Show us how clever you really are and pick a topic that you can defend. Or not. I never expect much from people like you but occasionally you surprise me.
Thanks for reading my posts. It's always good to know someone reads this stuff.
Don't flatter yourself, or you might be mistaken for Jokebama the Narcissist.
I did not seek out your posts; I merely quoted what you wrote in response to my own post.
Fair enough.
Barry Houdini!!!!!!
Why have you been programmed to ridicule Iran's President and not Nuttyahoo, for example? Which one is occupying land? Which one refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty? I doubt there is anything you think Iran is guilty of that Israel is not guilty of more so. I guess the Muslims are the reason the world is screwed up?
Siding with the tiny, socialist, ethnocracy ( a rogue nation to boot since they refuse to even define their borders, have WMDs, etc…) gains us nothing besides enemies WHILE costing us a fortune in foreign aid and pointless wars we fight on their behalf. Great plan, let's push the oil-rich nations in to the arms of China and Russia who will be more than happy to geld the US and gain oil in one stroke. Alternatively, if we allied with the Arab nations we could have cheap oil and our economy would take off! But those who are drooling over setting up the next world war are more than happy to set us up for conflict since they find that so profitable.
BHO became President because he campaigned to the lowest common demoninator….greed….he promised everyone would get "ice cream" and 52% of the population bought into that.
Does anyone out there have doubts as to the direction this country is headed?? I think not, unless you are the
type to bury your head in the sand like an ostrich. O. said enough during the campaign to convince me that
he has been rooted and grounded in socialism; it's just that everything is SO much worse than could have
been imagined. Furthermore, there is SO much going on all of the time that one can scarcely keep up with
all of it.
Actually, Iran did attack us. Last time I checked an embassy is sovereign territory. P'raps you might remember that litle incident in what was it, 1979 involving some hostages and some students. But then again selective amnesia is a wonderful opiate – very soothing by virtue of altering one's perception
The Dems painted themselves into a corner on defense. After seven long years of calling Bush a torturing, terrorizing, war-mongering, fascist babykiller, how could Obama—or any other Dem—possibly characterize himself as being tough on defense?
It's impossible. Nobody could be tougher on defense than a torturing, terrorizing, war-mongering fascist babykiller. Nobody.
I prefer the moniker B-HO…he mistook his initials for 'behold' and assumed he was truly the Messiah
the day BO mocked the tea party movement was the day he became bad oder. They claim bush did alot of things but he NEVER mocked the American people. He should be impeached for mocking the American people alone.
There need to be strong calls for Barry to resign.
We cannot just let him destroy our nation.
Is this article a joke? I consider myself a Liberal, and had great hope when Obama campaigned on a platform of change, once elected he quickly moved to the right. I think when he became president the corporatist sat him down and told he how things really work in Washington, they explained that the real power lies within the Oligarchy, and that the system that we operate within is a Plutocracy, or Corporatocracy, and if he wanted any chance at staying in power he would need to fall in line, believe me when I tell you, this guy is no Liberal.
good luck trying to tell the truth. unfortunately at this time it does not matter who is elected, both parties are for sale to the highest bidder.
there are some good honest politicians who work for the people. you may not agree with all their positions but they are men of integrity.
here is my shortlist of truth telling honest politicians
1. Ron Paul<—- who i wrote in for POTUS
2. Dennis Kucinich
3. Bernie Sanders<— read what he has to say, not what other people are telling you (for those on the right)
Notice Obama is not on this list, that is very intentional.
He is a complete sellout to the money men
Or another Moby posting anti-semitic crap so the tranzis can use him as "proof" that everyone here who is remotely conservative is a truther nazi.
Yes, excellent response, my order would be #1 Kucinich, #2 Sanders, #3 Paul- honest but dangerous, why can't we have more like them?
Revenues were higher after the tax cuts – indeed they rose $700 billion, on a yearly basis, between the time of the final cuts in '03 and late 2005. Without the cuts, we would have been mired in a prolonged recession and revneues would have continuned to shrink as they were as a result of the Cltinon recession. That's not politics, that economic fact.
As for the point of the article, presidents that reach that hat trick are genreally one term presidents.
All politicians are skating on this ICE!! They can no longer MASK their GOALIE!! Guess what, the PUCK stops here!!
No one denies that tax cuts have a short lived stimulative effect on the economy. But after a couple of years the affect fades and the debt remains. The Bush tax cuts targeted wealthy people that are far less likely to spend their extra money to buy consumer goods and give us the stimulative affect we were promised. In fact, in a global economy they are free to go anywhere in the world to find the greatest return on investment. Rational behavior for an individual but doesn't leave any trickle down crumbs for the rest of us.
The promise of the Bush tax cuts never materialized because they were done in the middle of two wars and had no chance to cover the deficits with all that "higher revenue". Even with those wars fought "off budget" we still managed to run half trillion deficits in an expanding economy… a recipe for failure.
The recession of 2000 was relatively light by today's financial meltdown, bank failing Bush standard. It's the new paradigm. The same effect on that recession could have been accomplished with limited, short term payroll tax cuts that would have targeted the very people who spend the unexpected income.
Your facts are political… driven by ideology. More concerned with right wing purity than with economic results
Thanks for responding..
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I'm glad someone mentioned Iran attacking us with the hostage situation in 1979. That was not ony an attack, it was an act of war (the Embassy is considered US soil). I'm still pissed we never gave Iran their comeuppance for thier perfidity.
So yeah, instead, let's hate Israel, the only democracy in the theocratic and aristocractic Middle East.
Thats the other play isnt it, make us look like nuts by referencing one offs and ignoring the overwhelming verbal spankings those one offs receive by the majority.
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