Racist Van Jones Rally Cheered 9/11 Attacks
by Kristinn Taylor and Andrea Shea King
Van Jones (Photo East Bay Express via zTruth)
When Obama administration Green jobs czar Anthony “Van” K. Jones resigned late Saturday night, September 5, 2009 over the long Labor Day weekend, a storm of breaking news about his radical anti-American history was being reported by conservative bloggers. One such storm was about the racist, hate-America rally Van Jones held the day after the September 11, 2001 terror attacks on the United States where speakers cheered the attacks and Jones himself said America deserved it.
World Net Daily was first to report on the rally, on August 28, 2009.
However, it was Powerline’s post the evening of September 3rd (and expanded on at Free Republic), hours before Jones’ resignation was announced, that included the first mention of what Jones said at the rally. The Powerline article was based on a leftwing report made at the time of the rally.
A YouTube video of the rally reported on by BizzyBlog on September 8th captures some of Jones’ remarks at the rally. (The quote from Jones is similar in nature to that quoted in the leftwing article. However, no context is given so Jones could have said both lines, or been accurately characterized but misquoted.)
Jones is featured twice at the end of the five minute video. BizzyBlog transcribed his comments:
(4:38) “It’s the bombs that the government has been dropping around the world that are now blowing up inside the U.S. borders.”
And:
“We’ve got something stronger than bombs, we have solidarity. That dream of revolutionary change is stronger than bombs.”
One unidentified speaker on the video praised the 9-11 attackers as heroes (transcribed by Kristinn Taylor).
“We’re always seeing America dropping bombs on people. Now the chicken is coming home to roost, as Malcolm say. (Cheers from the crowd.) We gotta deal with it. They got people so dedicated they gonna commit suicide to make their point. We gotta understand there’s a war going on that people are fighting for their own life, for their land. Right? We gotta support those people. We cannot let the lies of the media take our spirits down. We don’t want to see our people dying, innocent people dying. But in fighting a war, they don’t have the army to fight and block our warfare with the American people. Don’t call them cowards. They’re heroes that died. And they’re the people that we have to support in this case. The people of color are rising here and we gotta understand that. I just want to say we gotta support and don’t let this thing turn your spirits down. Turn ‘em up!”
An article posted by “gkt” at the leftwing site Indybay.org in the early hours of September 13, 2001 reported on the rally held just hours before in Oakland, California’s Snow Park:
A recurring theme of the speakers was the brutal violence committed by or supported by the United States government on a daily basis. “The bombs the government drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New York City,” said Van Jones, director of the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, who also warned against forthcoming violence by the Bush Administration. “The US cannot bomb its way out of this one. Safety at home requires justice abroad.”
In a diverse international community shocked by recent world events, deep feelings about the United States government were expressed. A young Puerto Rican person said that “the belly of the beast had something back to eat.” A young Filipino human rights activist said that “when we found out what kind of place got hit, we were kind of glad to see the Pentagon burning. But we also know that thousands of Puerto Ricans, Haitians and other workers were in those buildings.” An African-American man who works on gentrification issues in West Oakland said that “we’re always seeing Americans drop bombs on people. We watch the Vietnamese get bombed, Iraqis get bombed, Palestinians get bombed, now it has come home to roost.” Japanese-Americans spoke about internment camps and the nuclear holocaust brought on by US militarism.
Violence and repression within the United States was also talked about. A representative of TransAction said, “We know what it’s like to experience police violence on a daily basis.” Mesha Monge-Irizarry, the mother of Idriss Stelley (who was killed by SFPD in June), also spoke: “We pray for many lives killed by this government, of black people, and of innocent black people in the third world who will be slaughtered with this terrorism retaliation.”
United States support, in the form of arms and funding, for apartheid in Israel was also discussed. “You want to know why they hate us?” asked one woman. “Forty Israeli tanks just entered Jericho tonight.”
Those present were determined to make their voices heard in an increasingly hostile, war-mongering climate scripted by the government and recited by corporate media. They also vowed to fight within their own communities against racism and hostility towards Arab-Americans. Everyone sensed that this was an important time in history, and that the stuggle against injustice requires international solidarity. “Everyone should be as wise as these inner-city youth here today,” Van Jones concluded. “We all have more in common with the working people of the earth than we do with George Bush or Colin Powell.”<
The article described the gathering as:
Organized by youth and people of color in Oakland and San Francisco, solidarity speakers included supporters of Palestine, people returning from the WCAR in South Africa, police brutality activists, anarchists and socialists, anti-gentrification activists and other people representing dozens of cultures and ethnicities. International solidarity was the theme as community and activist groups stood together against the threat of more US violence.
The comment by one of Jones’ “wise inner-city youth” cheering the attack on the Pentagon appears on the video and was transcribed by BizzyBlog:
(4:10) “But when we knew what those places represented, we were kind of also glad that there’s a place called the Pentagon where, where, military strategies which have killed millions of people around the face of the world (unintelligible). We know, to see that place burnin’, there was some satisfaction to it.”
A press release for the rally issued by Van Jones’ Ella Baker Center and STORM, bluntly stated the groups’ leftist race-baiting agenda:
Anti-Arab hostility is already reaching a fever pitch as pundits and common people alike rush to judgment that an Arab group is responsible for this tragedy,” said Van Jones, national executive director of the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights. “We fear that an atmosphere is being created that will result in official and street violence against Arab men, women and children.”
“No matter who ultimately is to blame for these bombings, we cannot tolerate stereotypes and blanket attacks against any ethnic group,” said Raquel of STORM. “And we especially don’t want Asian-American, African-American, Latino or Native American communities getting pulled into a frenzy of hatred toward our sisters and brothers. We must stand together.”
Though people of color in particular will be invited to speak at the gathering, but everyone is welcome. (sic)
The groups behind the instant racist hate-America rally were listed in the press release as:
the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, Let’s Get Free, Youth Force Coalition, JustAct, Bay Area PoliceWatch, Underground Railroad and STORM/Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement.
Van Jones was a founder of STORM.
Newsbusters was the highest profile outlet to report on Jones’ remarks. After he resigned from the Obama administration, reporting on Jones’ background ceased. Even when he was picked up by Princeton and the Center for American Progress, the media swept his radical past under the rug.
In forthcoming articles, we’ll be picking the rug up to show more of what we and others found and reported about Anthony “Van” Jones that momentous Labor Day weekend of 2009.
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We have people close to the President of the United States and people clearly aligned and allied with his agenda openly calling for the destruction of the United States by using violence only barely thinly veiled, and we have a President who has made it his mission to destroy American prosperity, power, influence, and credibility.
It's time we take these people at their word and their goals at face value.
They need to somehow be dispatched from the levers of influence and power.
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The more I read about this numb nut the more he sounds like Pol Pot.
These folks should be in jail preferably Guantonamo Cuba! Is it too much to ask that soon Van Jones and all like him are banished to the private sector. Not community activist organizations that receive gov't grants but actual private sector gigs. I would prefer that they just leave USA!
Seems to me Bollywood is missing some great movies and TV series featuring the depravity of the left.
Jones is a POS and probably wished he had been the one responsible for 9/11. People like this radical anti American being close buddies to the sitting president of the United States should make Speaker of the House Bohener look very closely at impeachment for the safety of Americans.
Jones is nothing more than a loud mouth radical piece of garbage working with Obama to destroy America.
The only reason these Satanic movements come out of the closet and proclaim America is evil is because they have Obama driving the movement. That will change, either with an election or a repeat of what Conservatives had to do 240 years ago. Then, these people will be driven back underground where they belong with Alinski's hero……….Lucifer.
Van Jones is every bit as evil as Islam's Satanic cult.
"Safety at home requires justice abroad.”
My answer to these America haters is the same solution I would offer to Conservatives.
Turn America's energy policy around 180 degrees; to move with military precision toward extracting and producing all American fossil fuel reserves, while finding more, flooding so much oil and natural gas onto the world market that it collapses the oil and gas prices to the barest minimum, building the American economy while bankrupting the Middle East. At the same time, remove all of our "policing" forces from the Middle East and allow the people in those countries to fight it out over the crumbs of their existence without the stabilizing force of American involvement.
This "should" make the leftist radicals happy (it won't because they are NEVER happy), as America will no longer be involved in "dropping bombs on innocent people." While also addressing the desires of pro-American Conservatives in pursuing energy independence.
It's not much more complicated than that.
Boehner look closely?
You've got a better chance of having someone at your front door with an arm full of roses and a giant check….
the only reason is that they know the fix is already in….
Now is not soon enough. The proper time for him to go would have been in the Senate race of 2004 with a Mike Ditka run. Alas, for opportunity lost!
So what is this fixation on Van Jones now a days? Like 3 articles already. We know what this guy is about, he isn't going to change.
This is like Huffington Post saying they hate Sarah Palin and to show this, they post dozens of articles about Palin giving her free advertisement.
We have Libya, Muslim Brotherhood, syria, Egypt going on and the focus is on Van Jones?
Anyone that understands the separations inherent in Marxism will realize that adherents to the ideology will view America as the villain. We are the wealthiest nation in the world, and as such by Marxist ideology we must therefore be an enemy to the world. That's why Jones and his ilk cheer attacks against the US.
I've wondered whether the term "citizen of the world" was an indication of one's affiliation against the US, as the usage of such a term generally occurs in a context involving a conflict between global and local opinion. If the person stating that opinion is a Marxist, then such a statement would be hard to view as anything but a taking of sides.
Good post John.
No surprise here and lets face it, it appears the United States will aligned itself with the Muslin Brotherhood, Al-Qaeda and other Muslin terrorist in the Middle East protest that is appear surreptitiously hidden in the name of democracy.
Yea, I'd say Van Jones and Jeremiah Wright are proud Americans right now! Bottom Up, Top Down.
"Racist Van Jones" …well now, guess it depends on which side of the coin one is looking at, doesn't it ?
You've the Patriotic Constitutional Conservatives and those that wholeheartedly believe in this Republic, its genius Founders, the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. And then you have the Patriotic Anti-US Constitution peeps that are Pro-Communism, Marxism, Socialism, Leninism, Mao, anti-capitalist illiterates.
Im just going to toss something out here::: The President can only serve two terms, So if there were term limits on congressmen and senators—It would make it real hard for nutjobs like Van Jones to get his foot in the door at all! The term "Green Job czar" sounds alot like "stationary superintendent" Its a glorified term for "janitor"
Is Van Jones part of our Government?
Is the CBO?
CBO: Taxing mileage a 'practical option' for revenue enhancement
By Pete Kasperowicz – 03/24/11 04:17 PM ET
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) this week released a report that said taxing people based on how many miles they drive is a possible option for raising new revenues and that these taxes could be used to offset the costs of highway maintenance at a time when federal funds are short.
The report discussed the proposal in great detail, including the development of technology that would allow total vehicle miles traveled (VMT) to be tracked, reported and taxed, as well as the pros and cons of mandating the installation of this technology in all vehicles.
"In the past, the efficiency costs of implementing a system of VMT charges — particularly the costs of users' time for slowing and queuing at tollbooths — would clearly have outweighed the potential benefits from more efficient use of highway capacity," CBO wrote. "Now, electronic metering and billing are making per-mile charges a practical option."
The report was requested by Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), who held a hearing on transportation funding in early March. In that hearing, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said the Obama administration is hoping to spend $556 billion over the next six years, much of which would go to federal transportation improvement projects.
Conrad said in response that federal funds are tight, and in asking for recommendations on how to raise that money, he noted the possibility of a VMT tax as a way to solve the problem of collecting less in taxes as people move to more fuel-efficient vehicles.
You catch that part about MANDATING INSTALLATION IN EVERY VEHICLE?
I'm jus sayin, I think this affects more of us. And it's news.
To paraphrase Shepherd Book from "Firefly," Mr. Jones is going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Are you talking about Van Jones or obama?
Ohh another one
G.E.’s Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether
By DAVID KOCIENIEWSKI
Published: March 24, 2011
General Electric, the nation’s largest corporation, had a very good year in 2010.
The company reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, and said $5.1 billion of the total came from its operations in the United States.
Its American tax bill? None. In fact, G.E. claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.
That may be hard to fathom for the millions of American business owners and households now preparing their own returns, but low taxes are nothing new for G.E. The company has been cutting the percentage of its American profits paid to the Internal Revenue Service for years, resulting in a far lower rate than at most multinational companies.
Its extraordinary success is based on an aggressive strategy that mixes fierce lobbying for tax breaks and innovative accounting that enables it to concentrate its profits offshore. G.E.’s giant tax department, led by a bow-tied former Treasury official named John Samuels, is often referred to as the world’s best tax law firm. Indeed, the company’s slogan “Imagination at Work” fits this department well. The team includes former officials not just from the Treasury, but also from the I.R.S. and virtually all the tax-writing committees in Congress.
You the citizen get VMTs installed in your cars so they can suck whatever they want out of your bank account.
G.E., not so much. To use a phrase I know you all have heard.
Must be nice.
Interchangeable
That shoe is one size fits all.
In 0's case that would be a resume enhancer.
And that’s the scary part of this story…….
The commie still wields an enourmous amount of power — and that is newsworthy.
Joe McCarthy said the government was full of reds and the left attacked him. The truely said thing is that Eisenhower also distanced himself from Joe. On my first full day with the CIA I learned that there had been a 35 yrs long project from 1942 to 1977 to decode Soviet coded messages from 1942, 43 and 44 that dealt with American traitors who were working for the reds. That project was called Venona and it was declassified in 1992. Eisenhower was fully briefed on the project and he know that Senator McCarthy was right.
Van Jones and virtuely everyone around Dear Leader barry hussein obama are reds, radicals and traitors. They are out in the open about their hatred of America. Comrade barry is the same as his buddies. His wife Michelle spoke the truth that she had never been proud of the US until he was elected. As barry said during the election to his army of drones….talk to your neighbors and spread the message. If your neighbors disgree get in their face and challenge them. Take those words to heart. Learn the facts and then go out and change some minds. These people aim to destroy America and time is running out for us.
I think maybe ObaMao is working with them! ie.Soros and Co.
…and affects us, potentially, in more ways than just taxes. What's to say there wouldn't be a tracking chip in these devices that would be able to detect not only our driving distances but also our driving patterns – where we go and (potentially) who we meet? This may sound like a stretch, but I put NOTHING past this Big Brother Administration.
Me —I'm sick and tired of the "Politically Correct" Crap. If Van Jones and his ilk continue on the current path, I predict that violence WILL be visited on them. It will Happen. You don't just keep spitting on the Ten Commandments and HIS holy word and walk away.—Won't happen.
Maybe most here will wake the F up and understand this is a war against the white crackers as obama would say and is even allowed in your schools to portray whites as cockroaches
An emergency drill set to take place in an Iowa school Saturday is drawing outrage after organizers revealed the mock scenario involves an “anti-immigration” pro-gun student shooting dozens of students in a racially-motivated shooting spree.
Operation Closed Campus is designed to ensure school officials, emergency responders and support organizations are prepared in the event they face a school shooting, according to the Pottawattamie County Emergency Management Agency. The Agency, along with the Homeland Security Exercise and Evaluation Program, distributed an Exercise Plan Wednesday to detail exactly how the drill, to be held at Treynor High School and involving roughly 300 people, local police, hospitals and the Red Cross, would be carried out.
Along with logistics, the exercise plan also details the fictitious backstory behind the mock shootings, which begins with the premise that “In the past 6 months, the City of Treynor and Treynor Community School District has received a significant influx of minority residents,” causing “controversy regarding national immigration policies as well as racial tensions with a few embedded, typically silent, white supremacy affiliates.”
Based on those tensions, a white, 18-year-old high school senior who “has been seen with anti-immigration demonstrators” and whose family “is known to be firearm enthusiasts, if not fanatics” starts a fight with a group of minority students “blurting racial slurs and that he is tired of them moving in and stealing jobs and money from Americans” then “pulls a handgun from his waistband, shooting one of the minority students.”
A 17-year-old friend of the shooter then joins him in "firing upon anyone in their path and chasing down anyone who is against their ill-perceived stand,” the plan says.
Critics say organizers are clearly using the drill as a way to portray gun owners and opponents of illegal immigration as terrorists.
"I believe it's politically motivated, it’s wrong and it’s a slap in the fact to any person that loves our country and is concerned about our border security," Robert Ussery, state director of Iowa Minutemen, a group against illegal immigration, told FoxNews.com. "We’re going to contact our legislators, to put a stop to this."
Kevin Elwood, superintendent of Treynor Community Schools, told FoxNews.com he started receiving complaints from all over the Midwest after the plan went out.
“I’m getting a few emails today saying, ‘Are you crazy? Are you really doing this in school?’” Elwood said in an interview Thursday. Elwood said he was as surprised as anyone to see the scenario in the Exercise Plan. “It hadn’t been discussed at any previous meetings leading up to this event or any of the planning sessions we’ve had.”
In a follow-up memo distributed Wednesday afternoon, Doug Reed, the lead exercise planner for the county’s Emergency Management Agency, said the scenario was only constructed for the purpose of securing Homeland Security Grant funding, which requires the drill simulate a terrorism scenario.
“This scenario and supporting suspect profiles are only in the plan in order to define this FICTITIOUS INCIDENT as a domestic terrorism event and to provide simulated intelligence that responding law enforcement would want and/or eventually request during the event,” Reed wrote. “There will be NO role-playing of racist protests, slander or hate crimes during the actual exercise … the only thing being exercised is the RESPONSE to a shooting, we are not exercising events leading up to the shooting.”
Reed added that the exercise and scenario have “nothing to do with the continued political debate over immigration laws. There is no political party that was or is in charge of planning this exercise. This exercise has nothing to do with intimidating or preventing any American citizen their rights or liberties.”
But Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America, said it “bothers” him even more that the federal government would encourage that kind of a scenario.
The Department of Homeland Security refuses to react to this.
Can't you just picture either standing around a camp fire saying:
"You must sacrifice for The Party, The Party is One, YOU are one with the party!"
I get snarky on travel day.
Ever google this?
phil schnieder story
Hours of fun.
Already done….if your car has a computer in it….or GPS….The technology is in place…..Have you seen the new Buick commercial?…..the one where the dad starts the car with his Iphone….If they can sneak it by the sleeping populace ….they will….
Vanny is just another Affirmative Action victim; in over his head with a flair for profanity. We can't blame him though because "its a Black Thang", a cultural tendancy to curse. Maybe its all of those government chemicals in the free cheese he is accustomed to.
Hatred is such a sad thing but it is big in Africa.
He would have lost to Ryan, but the media made sure Obama won that race too. Obama has been manufactured all along. (Media sued to open Ryan;s divorce records and then decried those who demanded them sue to open John Kerry's divorce records just the same.)
The Illinois GOP helped out in the effort by playing the race card ala Alan Keyes as the "opponent". Illinois just sucks!
Agreed. Good post John.
Ruh-Roh, Van, it looks like Mr. Breitbart has made it personal. Too bad for you, commie.
d(^_^)b http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
"Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive"
Terms limits are the wrong way to go about the right thing.
Voters must have recognized the right to vote for whomever they choose, providing they qualify for the office they seek. I understand that, via amendment, a new qualification was created, but I think it an unwise one. I also understand that the Office of President is a unique one.
It is in Iran where government decides who can run for office and who cannot. We should not travel on that path. I can accept that the Office of President requires special qualifications but I cannot accept putting the same qualification on legislative offices.
We already have term limits in place, that is why we have elections. As for termS limitation, we already have that power too, we the people just have to exercise it. We should not turn over more authority to government. It has too much already.
As for Blame Canada – we really can do that now regarding Libya! It is warmongering Canadians in the lead of the Libya war! Ha ha. Just playin'
Two Words –
PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Government holds no Constitutional authority in this area until such time as it is demonstrated that harm has been done to another flesh and blood human being and individual due process is afforded according to the inalienable rights, most especially those enumerated, all Citizens own.
I am sure all the lefites will be protesting GE for "not paying their fair share" in 5 4 3 2……..
These Socialist Activists, Ash, do honestly think they are Patriotic to their (destructive) Cause.
Yes, beyond insane and frankly, incomprehensible. But is their mindset & usage of this word, not mine.
you can take the BOY outa the ghetto…but the ghetto stays in the BOY…
ooops that sounds racerist…
go junior go!!!!
Logic, reason, truth, these things have no place in the world of the leftist.
Abandoning these things is a pre-requisite of membership.
barracks who'sinsane osamabama, presidunce of the unionized statists…did I get it right???
I don’t see the entire United States capitulating to their rule without an end all fight. We may be vulnerable but we are not cowards and will die for our right to be free. There will be no peaceful surrender to any Islamic army by the United States even with BO and his cronies at the helm, the majority will unite and overturn their Bottom Up, Top Down theory.
Tell me again why we can't do anything about them ?
Jones was recruited by Obama's right hand political advisor Valerie Jarrett. In fact, she absolutely gushed about him in a video that surfaced at about the time he resigned.
This is the type of people Obama places or prefers to surround and advise him. Jones and Wright would be in the W.H. right now if it weren't for damning video footage of what these people say and stand for.
This senario was devised out of Homeland security because they want such an event to actually happen. Napalitano's fevered brain believes that there is a greater threat to the country from anti-immigrant/gun Americans than violent Islamists and their 5th column operatives that are attacking our society and culture.
The rot that exists within the Obama administration is truly stunning and funding such an exercise is clear evidence of it.
United we stand. Divided we fall! We the people do not want to be ruled. We will win. It is not going to happen over night. What I find encouraging everyday is just how diverse this movement is. It has one binder holding it together. FREEDOM!
Whatever happened to "Treason?" Doesn't ANYONE get indicted for TREASON anymore? Or is there such a thing?
Isalm = No thanks
Sharia Law = Bad
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w” target=”_blank”>www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w
Just put this trash in front a firing squad…problem solved!
JohnK144 — You post both prolifically and wisely, sir, an uncommon trait on the interweb.
I always enjoy your offerings. They're well-considered and right on target (at least all that I've seen).
I'm able to think about all those issues, including Van Jones and more.
Some of the information in this article is news to me, so I particularly appreciate that part. Another point: Van Jones hasn't lost his influence or cachet with the hard left. He's still a "leading light" on "green issues." Hence, he's a clear and present danger.
Good points. Insane is the word, too. Proggies got no real reason to celebrate anything at all. They're a bunch of pricks and puritans, always afraid that someone, somewhere, is having a good time.
Dear Washington,
How right you are. That one word….FREEDOM….has always been the word that defined America and the Dream that brought the early settlers and all those who followed to our shores. We will never let anyone take that from us. The people have been asleep for too long and they are waking up.
YES WE CAN………Say that Blacks have the power to be RACIST – MORE RACIST than Whitey!!!! YES WE CAN!!!!
Yes, but that won't be any consolation to the millions – only thousands,if we're lucky – of VICTIMS that will die at their Satanic hands.
This product is the consumers choice to allow in their vehicle, and it is run by private industry (well not totally true in this specific case – but you get my point).
A tracking device, mandated by the state and monitored by the state is a different matter entirely.
"Nothing was your own except the few cubic centimetres inside your skull."
Orwell, 1984
Sadly I can. In December 2009, when Comrade Dear Leader's poll numbers were slipping, he was interviewed by a leftwing reported and asked about 2012….what would Dear Leader do if his numbers continued to slip. Dear Leader responded that he would assess the situation at the time and make a decision then. He was not going to change course or stop trying to achieve his objectives out of a sense of political expediency. he finished by saying that if his numbers were down in 2012 and he could not win he would would with the party to find a candidate that shared his vision and had a better chance of winning.
That is the statement of a True Believer….and something to make any real American scared. Dear Leader has a vision of America and the world that transcends his own desire to continue as President. He is a man on a mission….and that mission is the weakening and eventual destruction of America.
My Mother always said to choose your friends carefully, because you will be judged by the vermin you hang out with. Barack Hussein Obozo has hung out with some really bad characters and we should judge him accordingly.
He is a scum-bag POS, in my opinion, and he should be IMPEACHED!
Youre missing the point—-It really seems to me that the longer any Senator or Congressperson stays in office there is increasingly more potential for fraud and corruption —I could be wrong?
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