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		<title>Top Ten Democrats Who Would Be Better Presidential Candidates Than Barack Obama in 2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joel B. Pollak</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[2012 Election]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The primary field really is bad&#8211;for Democrats. As the media and voters scrutinize the Republican contenders, it is easy to forget how weak and unpopular the incumbent is. Polls suggest a majority of Americans want to replace President Barack Obama in 2012, and Democrats are hitting the panic button&#8211;even as Obama enjoys a slight bounce in approval&#8211;because [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary field really <em>is</em> bad&#8211;for Democrats. As the media and voters scrutinize the Republican contenders, it is easy to forget how weak and unpopular the incumbent is. Polls suggest a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/campaigns/ap-gfk-poll-majority-says-obama-deserves-to-be-voted-out-of-office/2011/12/16/gIQAGkbixO_story.html">majority</a> of Americans want to replace President Barack Obama in 2012, and Democrats are <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70623.html">hitting the panic button</a>&#8211;even as Obama enjoys a slight <a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/12/a-word-from-scott-rasmussen.php">bounce</a> in approval&#8211;because they realize he has failed.</p>
<p>In the end-of-the-year countdown spirit, here are the top ten Democrats who would be better presidential candidates than Barack Obama in 2012:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>10. Rep. Harold Ford, Jr.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgBmQMSmCrY"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/TgBmQMSmCrY/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>Losing his Senate race in 2006 seems to have freed the former Tennessee congressman to speak his mind. He has bucked liberal dogma on <a href="http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/78439/">foreign policy</a> and the <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203914304576628653912381690.html">Keystone XL</a> pipeline, and offers independent, common sense ideas.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>9. Sen. Joe Manchin</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCwKb2vLYuQ"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/VCwKb2vLYuQ/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>West Virginia’s junior senator can tout his experience as governor and his victory in a tough political climate. He appeals to independents with his <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/123621-manchin-literally-shoots-hole-through-climate-bill-in-tv-ad">opposition</a> to climate change legislation, and his <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/13/sen-joe-manchin-yeah-i-dont-know-whats-up-with-my-fellow-democrats-not-producing-a-budget/">criticism</a> of his own party’s stalling in the Senate.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>8. Sen. Mark Warner</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLZzaquKtBI"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/WLZzaquKtBI/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>A favorite of party moderates, Warner was a <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/dec/8/20051208-100743-9032r//">popular</a> governor of Virginia before being elected to the Senate, and also has private sector experience. He declined to seek the Democratic nomination in 2008, though he might have won it&#8211;then, or now.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>7. Chris Wallace</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy9YDUC-bnw"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/Jy9YDUC-bnw/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>Conservatives know him as a trusted anchor at Fox News&#8211;but he’s also a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001509.html">registered Democrat</a> in Washington, D.C., adding bipartisan appeal to his communication skills.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>6. Mayor Corey Booker</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4dqnNc-alo"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/-4dqnNc-alo/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>The mayor of Newark is a Rhodes scholar who, unlike Obama, has made his way in politics the hard way&#8211;by fighting corruption and reforming government.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>5. Gov. Andrew Cuomo</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAy_862JwEc"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/aAy_862JwEc/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>His role in the housing crisis notwithstanding, he managed to balance the state budget without raising taxes, setting an example for other big states. He is now <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203893404577098253685079824.html">proposing</a> a tax hike, but deserves credit for showing spending restraint first.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>4. Sen. Ron Wyden</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNRDb3IrCYA"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/JNRDb3IrCYA/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>Though the senior senator from Oregon is liberal on social issues and foreign policy, he has shown sincere interest in real solutions to pressing policy issues. For example, he <a href="http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2011/12/15/obama-panics-as-ryan-wyden-offer-bipartisan-medicare-reform-thwarting-2012-mediscare-campaign-strategy/">joined</a> Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) in proposing sweeping Medicare reform.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>3. Secretary Hillary Clinton</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViR5h-FajOk"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/ViR5h-FajOk/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>Many Democrats agree that Clinton ought to have been their party’s nominee in 2012 rather than the inexperienced, untested Obama. She is the country’s <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63669.html">most popular politician</a>&#8211;even though she has enacted Obama’s <a href="http://bigpeace.com/jpollak/2011/12/07/secretary-clinton-resets-the-russian-reset/">dubious foreign policy</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>2. Sen. Evan Bayh</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqlXGknAAv8"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/GqlXGknAAv8/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>The former Indiana senator and governor was the future of his party&#8211;until he decided against re-election in 2010, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/opinion/21bayh.html?pagewanted=all">bemoaning</a> the deepening divisions and the lack of real debate. In a comeback, he would offer an alternative to Obama’s class warfare.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>1. Sen. Joe Lieberman</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBkhlVPEmI0"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/QBkhlVPEmI0/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>1. Joe Lieberman &#8211; in ten years, the retiring senator fell from vice-presidential candidate to party outcast. The Democrat “netroots” purged him in 2006 in favor of anti-war one-percenter Ned Lamont. Yet Lieberman’s hawkish views on foreign policy, his strong bipartisan record, and his integrity still make him the best Democrats have to offer.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p>None of the candidates above would have a good chance of winning in 2012; the party as a whole has become so committed to big government and the old “tax-and-spend” agenda that voters haven’t hesitated to punish <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/03/blue-dog-coalition-gop-wave-elections_n_778087.html">moderates</a> as well as radicals.</p>
<p>Yet each would stand a better chance than Obama&#8211;and each would elevate our national debate from the bitter depths to which he and his Chicago team are determined to drag it.</p>
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		<title>Ron Paul Joins Call for Congressional Insider Trading to be Punished; Lieberman to Hold Senate Hearings</title>
		<link>http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/16/ron-paul-joins-call-for-congressional-insider-trading-to-be-punished-lieberman-to-hold-senate-hearings/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are uniting to put a stop to insider trading in Congress.
Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), who is rising in Republican presidential polls this week, told Fox News&#8217; Megyn Kelly that insider trading must be punished:

Meanwhile, from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs:

LIEBERMAN, COLLINS TO HOLD HEARING ON INSIDER TRADING [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are uniting to put a stop to insider trading in Congress.</p>
<p>Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), who is rising in Republican presidential polls this week, told Fox News&#8217; Megyn Kelly that insider trading must be punished:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwxAk61pmEs#t=200s"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/bwxAk61pmEs#t=200s/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>Meanwhile, from the <a href="http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNews&amp;ContentRecord_id=adf9db18-5056-8059-76c0-6b5fdc6ee4ba" target="_blank">Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs</a>:</p>
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<h1>LIEBERMAN, COLLINS TO HOLD HEARING ON INSIDER TRADING LAWS AND CONGRESS</h1>
<h2>60 Minutes Story Sparks Examination</h2>
<p>WASHINGTON – Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Joe Lieberman, ID-Conn., and Ranking Member Susan Collins, R-Maine, announced Wednesday they would hold a hearing to examine how insider trading laws apply to Congress.</p>
<p>The hearing, requested by Committee Member Scott Brown, R-Mass., and sparked by a 60 Minutes report, is intended to clarify the laws and rules that govern members of Congress who may profit personally from non-public information they learn in the course of their work.</p>
<p>“Insider trading by members of Congress – if it occurs &#8212; is a serious breach of the public trust,” said <strong>Lieberman</strong>. “No one in Congress should be enriching themselves based on information to which the general public has no access. Our hearing will set the record straight about how existing laws and ethics rules apply to Congress and whether they are sufficient to prevent unethical market trading.”<span id="more-377124"></span></p>
<p><strong>Collins</strong> said: “Elected office is a place for public service, not personal gain.  We have a duty to examine and address practices that can create the appearance of wrongdoing or undermine the public’s confidence in decisions made by Congress.</p>
<p>“I appreciate Senator Scott Brown’s leadership on this important issue.  We need to assure the American people that the decisions we make are decisions of integrity, in which their interests are put first.”</p>
<p>Senator Brown has introduced legislation intended to prevent members of Congress from profiting on information to which only they are privy.  That bill has been referred to HSGAC. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., will introduce similar legislation soon. House members have introduced similar bills.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Senator Lieberman Warns Super Committee on Defense Cuts</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT) visited Heritage this week to give the annual B.C. Lee lecture, focusing on the importance of American leadership in the Asia-Pacific region. After his speech, he sat down for a wide-ranging interview.
In addition to fears about losing the additional security gained by the surge in Afghanistan, Lieberman expressed concerns with the signal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNhVsXrqi10"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/mNhVsXrqi10/default.jpg"/></a></p>
<p>Senator <a href="http://www.heritage.org/Events/2011/11/BC-Lee-Lecture">Joe Lieberman (I-CT) visited Heritage this week</a> to give the annual B.C. Lee lecture, focusing on the importance of American leadership in the Asia-Pacific region. After his speech, he sat down for a wide-ranging interview.</p>
<p>In addition to fears about losing the additional security gained by the surge in Afghanistan, Lieberman expressed concerns with the signal a premature withdrawal might send to allies and enemies around the world.</p>
<p><span id="more-368112"></span></p>
<p>On the subject of the Super Committee’s deliberations and the<a href="http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/06/defending-defense-the-threat-of-the-super-committee/"> potential</a> <a href="http://blog.heritage.org/2011/10/05/video-the-importance-of-maintaining-a-strong-defense/">threat</a> to our military, Lieberman was direct.</p>
<blockquote><p>If the Super Committee fails … that could require as much as an additional five or six hundred billion dollars in cuts. Secretary of Defense Panetta has said that would be devastating. We would have failed to uphold our Constitutional duty to provide for the common defense.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>The interview runs about 7 minutes. Hosted by <a href="http://www.heritage.org/About/Staff/B/Robert-Bluey">Rob Bluey</a> and produced by <a href="http://www.heritage.org/About/Staff/S/Brandon-Stewart">Brandon Stewart</a>. For more videos from Heritage, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=heritagefoundation">subscribe to our YouTube channel</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>Senate Rejects Obama&#8217;s $60 Billion Infrastructure, Tax Hike Plan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From The Hill:

For the third time in four weeks, Senate Republicans on Thursday voted in unison to block a piece of President Obama&#8217;s jobs package.
The GOP senators were joined by one Democrat, Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.), and Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.) in rejecting a procedural motion on legislation that would spend $60 billion on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>From <em><a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/191687-senate-blocks-another-obama-jobs-bill">The Hill</a></em>:</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://biggovernment.com/files/2011/11/obama-fail.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-367452" title="obama-fail" src="http://biggovernment.com/files/2011/11/obama-fail.jpg" alt="" width="334" height="500" /></a></strong></p>
<p>For the third time in four weeks, Senate Republicans on Thursday voted in unison to block a piece of President Obama&#8217;s jobs package.</p>
<p>The GOP senators were joined by one Democrat, Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.), and Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.) in rejecting a procedural motion on legislation that would spend $60 billion on transportation infrastructure programs. The vote was 51-49.</p>
<p>The spending was offset with a new tax on income earned above $1 million that Republicans oppose.</p>
<p><span id="more-367448"></span></p>
<p>Many Republicans, including Sen. Jeff Sessions (Ala.), said they favored the idea of patching up the nation’s roads, railways and bridges, but refused to agree to any tax hike.</p>
<p>“Sen. Reid comes in with a tax-increase plan, a big spending plan totaling $60 billion, and we are supposed to pass this?” Sessions asked prior to the vote Thursday.</p>
<p><strong>Read more <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/191687-senate-blocks-another-obama-jobs-bill">here</a>.</strong></p>
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		<title>Sen. Lieberman Unsure He&#8217;ll Support Obama in 2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From The Washington Times:
Senator Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut Independent who caucuses with the Democrats, told host John McCaslin on America&#8217;s Morning News radio show on Tuesday morning that he had not decided if he would endorse President Obama in 2012:
MCCASLIN: Will you be supporting Barack Obama in 2012 or are you going to be putting your [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>From <em><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/aug/16/picket-audio-lieberman-unsure-hell-support-obama-2/">The Washington Times</a></em>:</strong></p>
<p>Senator Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut Independent who caucuses with the Democrats, told host John McCaslin on <strong><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/americas-morning-news/" target="_blank">America&#8217;s Morning News</a></strong> radio show on Tuesday morning that he had not decided if he would endorse President Obama in 2012:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>MCCASLIN</strong>: Will you be supporting Barack Obama in 2012 or are you going to be putting your money on a Republican candidate?</p>
<p><strong>LIEBERMAN</strong>: Well I haven&#8217;t decided and I&#8217;m just waiting to see who the Republican candidate is and what President Obama&#8217;s positions are at that point, so I got a little time as an independent not to feel rushed, because this is an important position. And I&#8217;m only one person but for every one of us who we support next year is going to say a lot about how our kids and grandkids are going to grow up in America, so I&#8217;m watching.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Senator Lieberman appears to be losing confidence that President Obama could actually win in 2012. The Connecticut Senator also told <strong><a href="http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2262661" target="_blank">WLS 890 am radio&#8217;s Don Wade</a></strong> on Tuesday, whether President Obama will be re-elected is, “an open question.”</p>
<p><strong>Read the whole thing <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/aug/16/picket-audio-lieberman-unsure-hell-support-obama-2/">here</a></strong>.</p>
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<p>On today&#8217;s edition of <a href="http://newledger.com">Coffee and Markets</a>, Brad Jackson and Ben Domenech are joined by Francis Cianfrocca to discuss the debt and Tim Geithner&#8217;s potential exit from Obama&#8217;s cabinet.  Then Senator Tom Coburn joins us to talk about his plan to reform Medicare and gives us an inside look at the debt ceiling debate.</p>
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<p><a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/aroy/2011/06/28/tom-coburn-and-joe-liebermans-impressive-new-medicare-reform-proposal/">Tom Coburn and Joe Lieberman’s Impressive New Medicare Reform Proposal</a><br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/top-democrats-reject-new-plan-to-cut-medicare-spending/2011/06/28/AGoSmhpH_story.html?wpisrc=nl_wonk">Top Democrats reject new plan to cut Medicare spending</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/30/opinion/main20075717.shtml">Finally: A pragmatic proposal for Medicare</a><br />
<a href="http://coburn.senate.gov/public/">Senator Tom Coburn, M.D.</a></p>
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<p><em>Transcript of Interview with Senator Tom Corburn</em></p>
<p>Jackson:	Senator, thanks for coming on the show.  We appreciate having you here.</p>
<p>Coburn:	Glad to be with you guys.</p>
<p>Jackson:	I noticed you had a great Medicare proposal you’re doing with Joe Lieberman and one of the particulars of that is means testing Medicare.  That’s something that is obviously needed, but quite controversial.  Talk about how you guys came around to including that in the proposal and what you think it will do going forward?</p>
<p>Coburn:	Well, the underlying problem with Medicare is the average person puts in about $130,000 during their working life and takes out $350,000.  So, how do we change that?  And there’s a lot of ways to change it, but one of the most important things is to change, what we know from a lot of studies that if you increase the pot (unintelligible) connection between purchase of healthcare and utilization of healthcare, that you can actually get the same quality outcome without the overutilization.</p>
<p>So, one of the things we change is we asked people to participate more fully in the Medicare Part B.  And ask if you’re wealthy you pay all of your Part B premium.  Right now the average Medicare recipient pays less than 25% of it.  And when it was started they were supposed to pay 50% of it.  So, we’re going back to the original Medicare which says we’re going to move you from 25 to 35 over 10 years where you’re paying actually a third of the out-patient insurance program under Medicare.  And we hit the very rich in this country where they pay all of their Part B.  We also asked the very rich to pay all of their Part B premium.</p>
<p>So, that they still get a benefit, and they still are going to take more money out than they put in, but at a much slower rate.  So, what this does is it buys us 10 years of life in Medicare, number one.  No.  It buys us about 20 years of life in Medicare, but it saves us $10 trillion off the unfunded liabilities.  And we do several things, you know, we slowly increase the age of Medicare.  That’s number one.  Number two, we limit Medicare coverage so that you can’t get anything that gives you first dollar coverage.  We combine the deductibles into a single deductible, but we also put, you can know what your maximum you’re ever going to spend as a Medicare patient.  You’re not, the most anybody on the lower tier is ever going to spend is $7,500 a year.  The Government is going to pick up the rest of that.</p>
<p>So now you have a max exposure.  So that helps the low income more, but also helps us out.  And the very rich have a $22,500 exposure.  So, that’s how we get there and what it does is it massively grows over time.  The first year, if this were implemented, would save $7 billion.  The second year $22 billion.  By the time you get to the 10th year, you’re saving $115 billion a year, and it continues to grow.</p>
<p>Domenech:	Senator, obviously one of the key elements in your solution on this front is recognizing the longer life expectancies that we’ve been seeing.  When it comes to putting the Medicare retirement age in line with the retirement age that modern Americans are experiencing, but unfortunately, and this is something I’ve got to ask you about, when your plan came out it seems like it didn’t take but a few minutes before Senator Durbin was standing up calling your proposal unacceptable and House Minority Leader Pelosi was saying it was unacceptable.  Why do you think the reaction is so severe on this front and why do you think that it’s important that these ages are brought in line with the way people are living these days?</p>
<p>Coburn:	When we get that kind of criticism, you’ve got to ask those people two questions.  One, what is your plan to save Medicare?  Because I guarantee you in five years we won’t be able to borrow enough money to pay Medicare.  Okay.  So, what’s your plan, if you’re critical.  And number two is, is this a political answer or is this a well thought out policy complaint?</p>
<p>The position both of them have is that under the assumption that Medicare can continue as it is.  It can’t.  It won’t.  So, there isn’t a senior out there that should not understand that even if you don’t want Medicare touched, five years from now it’s going to be different because the international financial community is going to ply the grease method to us and say, you have to fix Medicare.  So, if we fix it now it’s much less painful than if we wait five years to fix it.  So, they don’t have a plan, all they can do is criticize, and it’s all a political criticism rather than a policy criticism.  And number two is, they’re not living in reality because Medicare is going to change.  And it’s going to be much more painful if we wait to change it.</p>
<p>Domenech:	Obviously, you know, the President’s Medicare proposal is tied very closely to the Independent Payment Advisory Board.  In fact, one could argue that that’s the entirety of his proposal to deal with this issue.</p>
<p>Coburn:	Well, there’s two.  It’s not just the Independent Payment Advisory Board which is going to cut payments and eliminate options.  There’s also the Innovation Council which will limit new treatments, new drugs, and everything else, from being available to Medicare patients.  A lot of people don’t know about that.  So, they will restrict new treatments, and new drugs, and new techniques, and new processes, and new prosthetics, and the payment board will decrease the payment.  So, what you’re going to see is a decreased access for lower care.</p>
<p>Domenech:	You know, that’s actually a really interesting and important point and I think you’re completely correct that not a lot of people are talking about it.  You know, the whole concept is that newer treatments and newer ways of dealing with disease and problems are always the more expensive ones, or tend to be the more expensive ones, and that because of that they are a problem. What is sort of the motivation going to be for companies that are out there in the private marketplace to create new innovations if, you know, it’s apparent that there’s not going to be a significant of a marketplace for them in such a reality?</p>
<p>Coburn:	That’s a great question and we ought to just step back and think about the last 20 years in our country.  Around the rest of the world they have Government run healthcare programs.  So three quarters of all the innovations in healthcare have come out of ours.  Why have they come out of our system?  Because we don’t have total Government run.  We have 60% of our healthcare run by the Government.  But that 40% of the private sector has created a rich reward environment where people will invest capital to get new treatments, new outcomes, new medical devices, new drugs because there was a way to get rewarded for that.  And when this gets applied, you’re going to see medical innovation come to a grinding halt.  We’re already starting to see it with just medical devices moving off shore to be approved over in Europe.  They’re starting to do the research over there.  We’re running companies out because of just the bureaucratic side of it.</p>
<p>But the real thing, the entrepreneurial capitalist system that says I can make a buck by creating innovation, is going to dwindle because the IPAD board and the Innovation Council are going to say, it can’t be used in the Government.  And remember, we’re shifting from 60% Government run, we’re going to be about 85% Government run when this thing is over, because the number of companies, about half the companies now by the latest estimates who have insurance for their employees are going to drop it.  They’re going to pay the fine and then they’re going to go to the insurance exchange.  And of course the insurance exchange is going to limit coverage as well, and that’s going to cost is $2.6 trillion over 10 years to move all those people to there.  Plus instead of 16 million new people going into Medicaid, the estimate is now at 25 million are going into Medicaid.</p>
<p>So, you’re going to see us go from 60% Government run healthcare to 85%, so you’re eventually going to see Government run single payer in this country, under the ObamaCare.</p>
<p>Jackson:	Senator, a lot of the talk in D.C. right now is about the debt ceiling problem and the upcoming deadline.  How do you see that playing out and what kind of impact can the cost savings of your Medicare plan have on future budgets?</p>
<p>Coburn:	Well our plan, I just got the final scores on it this morning.  Without any fraud and abuse in it, which I think is at least $100 billion, our plan saves $628 billion over 10 and continues to grow massively after that on terms of savings.  It’s a marker out there.  We know it’s not going to go anywhere.  But it ought to be, we ought to be, here’s something in the middle that people from both ends of the spectrum can look at and probably come to agreement on.  I understand Nancy Pelosi can’t, maybe Dick Durbin can’t, but everybody this side of them and people the other side of me can come and say well, here’s, you know, a common sense solution that could actually work.</p>
<p>You know the, let me just go through just for the first year we save $1 billion on higher income beneficiaries.  The first year means testing saves $1 billion.  Increasing the Part B premium from 25 to 35 slowly saves $4 billion.  So, we don’t save a lot of money the first year, but when you start moving this thing up you start saving a lot of dollars.  And remember the goal is to keep Medicare, but make it affordable for our kids to be able to pay it.</p>
<p>Domenech:	Exactly.  You know Senator &#8211;</p>
<p>Coburn:	And still get good outcomes.</p>
<p>Domenech:	Senator, that’s so true and I wonder if you could share with us your thoughts on sort of the direction, the trajectory of the current debt ceiling talks.  Obviously &#8211;</p>
<p>Coburn:	I think right now everybody is so frustrated, because there hasn’t been leadership displayed by the President as well as our own Republican leaders, I would say, in getting out and saying here is the proposal we’ll offer.  Here’s a proposal we’ll offer.  Here’s a proposal we’ll offer.  And they can say no to it, but we still, people ought to be coming into this debate saying what about this?  What about this?  What about this?  Whereas if you’re actually having the debate about the topic of the debt limit, where we are, just the absolutely unsustainable path we’re on, we ought to be having the debate.  And instead there hadn’t been any debate and we haven’t forced the debate.</p>
<p>So starting this next week we’re going to be forcing the debate.  We’re going to be talking about this issue and we may not win, but the fact is the country wins if they get informed on what the real issues are.</p>
<p>Domenech:	You know Senator, I am curious about your reaction to something that happened just a couple weeks ago.  Obviously we’re talking about Medicare, but the letter from 41 Democrats to the President insisting that Medicaid reform be off the table.  You have a Medicaid reform package as well, and I wonder if you could talk about your reaction to that because it really shocked me, simply because the need for reform seems so apparent at the state level.</p>
<p>Coburn:	You cannot talk to a Governor, there’s not one Governor that doesn’t say Medicaid needs to be reformed and we need to have more flexibility in our state to make sure we take care of our patients and our citizens.  Every one of them will tell that to you.  So, the fact that you’ve got 41 that want to keep this system, and people should know, first of all 40% of primary care doctors won’t see a Medicaid patient.  65% of specialists won’t.  So, just because you have Medicaid doesn’t mean you have access.  As a matter of fact, access delayed is access denied.</p>
<p>And so, and the other thing we know is that under the Medicaid system the outcomes aren’t as good.  Why is that?  Because the best, the highest quality health providers are not available to them.  So, what we’re telling them is you can have a system but you can’t get it.  And by the way when you get in your outcomes are going to be worse.  So, what kind of system is that?  Whereas the Governors would like to say, give us the flexibility.  We’ll take care of our folks, but let us manage this thing.  Don’t put us on the hook.  We’ll spend the money properly and we’ll report back to you, but allow us to do it.  And there’s tons of money that can be saved.</p>
<p>You know, you’ve got Arizona that has every Medicaid patient on an HMO.  They have a waiver.  They won’t give that waiver to anybody else.  Rhode Island has a total waiver that we got through for the Governor up there right before President Bush.  They saved $150 million last year.  North Carolina has some waiver for their Medicaid to where they have them all in a medical home.  They’ve asked for a waiver for their dual eligibles between Medicare and Medicaid and they won’t give it to them.  But the fact is they’ve already proven they can save $400 million a year just on their Medicaid by having some innovation at the state level.</p>
<p>And all knowledge is not in Washington.  As a matter of fact, I’ll tell you very little is.  And there’s great knowledge in the states and we ought to allow the states into it.  Senator (unintelligible) and I have put out a Medicaid cap, a lot in the bill that really frees up the state.  There’s some responsibilities, but basically it says go do this.  You’re smart enough to take care of your own people and it’s not going anywhere.  And it’s disappointing to hear 41 Senators.  The same thing I said about Medicare is going to apply to Medicaid.  It has got to change.</p>
<p>Domenech:	You know Senator, let’s go out on this.  You obviously have talked about two proposals that are setting markers out there.  Are you optimistic that in the future that you’ll have the ability to, through the educational process, achieve some progress with both of these proposals and that they’ll receive more serious consideration in the future?</p>
<p>Coburn:	Well, I would hope they would.  These are proposals that are based on common sense.  They’re not perfect, we know that.  And they can be improved and made better.  And they can be compromised somewhat to get the votes, but the fact is that the principles that are underlying them are what is necessary to accomplish any significant savings and reform in healthcare.</p>
<p>Jackson:	Senator, thanks again for coming on the show.  It’s been an honor having you here.</p>
<p>Coburn:	Hey, good to visit with you.  Pleasure.</p>
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<p><a href="http://biggovernment.com/sahiller/2009/12/31/democrats-officially-kill-successful-dc-voucher-program/">Yes, the Democrats killed it</a> (can we still say that) and I&#8217;ve been <a href="http://biggovernment.com/sahiller/2010/08/13/if-democrats-cared-about-the-children-they-would-reinstate-the-dc-voucher-program/">calling out</a> the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">party of good will, kindness, caring, and tolerance</span> Democrats for more than a year about their shameful and deliberate actions.  And now, <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/25/boehner-lieberman-calling-restart-dc-school-voucher-program/?test=latestnews">it&#8217;s game on</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The speaker, along with Sen. <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/joe-lieberman.htm#r_src=ramp">Joe Lieberman</a>, I-Conn., on Wednesday plans to introduce legislation to revive a controversial program that provides private-school vouchers for kids of low-<a id="KonaLink0" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/25/boehner-lieberman-calling-restart-dc-school-voucher-program/?test=latestnews#"><span style="color: #0000ff;">income</span></a> parents in Washington, D.C. Boehner has long been a supporter of that program, which started to wind down in 2009, but is devoting some serious political capital to the cause this week.</p>
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<p>The D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program, as it is known, was launched in 2004 as the first federally funded program providing K-12 education grants. Though supporters say it gives poor <a id="KonaLink2" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/25/boehner-lieberman-calling-restart-dc-school-voucher-program/?test=latestnews#"><span style="color: #0000ff;">students</span></a> an alternative to the city&#8217;s underperforming public school system, teachers unions and other opponents say it draws sorely needed money away from the public system.</p>
<p>Lawmakers opposed to the program succeeded in eliminating it after Sen. <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/richard-durbin.htm#r_src=ramp">Dick Durbin</a>, D-Ill. &#8212; who could not be reached for comment Tuesday &#8212; attached an amendment to a 2009 spending bill. <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/obama-administration/barack-obama.htm#r_src=ramp">President Obama</a> stepped in and agreed to allow students currently enrolled to graduate. But the program is no longer accepting new applicants.</p></blockquote>
<p>To recap, the Omnibus appropriations act of 2009 <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/11/senate-kills-gops-dc-vouchers-bid/">defunded</a> (roll call vote <a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&amp;session=1&amp;vote=00094">here</a>) the successful program&#8211;effectively eliminating any opportunity for poor DC schoolchildren to escape the horrid DC public schools.  The Democrats, namely Dick Durbin, claimed that the program funding would take away from the money the DC public schools needed.</p>
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<p>GOP House Speaker Boehner and Senator Lieberman put out this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDClmlQR_n8">video statement</a>:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">This move to reinstate this program is a bold one for Boehner&#8211;especially when calls for spending decreases are deafening and <a href="http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2011/01/26/exp.ps.boehner.were.broke.cnn">we are broke</a>.   However, when the Obama administration <a href="http://www.cnsnews.com/node/72404">spent more than all previous administrations</a> in his first 19 months in office, it&#8217;s hard to say that this wasn&#8217;t a deliberate cut on the part of the Democrats&#8211;especially after 3 months in office.</p>
<p>Furthermore, this is going to be a tricky issue for Obama and the Democrats&#8211;one that will further define the Democrats as bought-off, public-sector union hacks and self-serving politicians who continually oppress and exploit others for their own political gain.  Some of you may think, yeah, those Republicans, but I will remind you&#8211;it was the Republicans who originally started the DC scholarship program and the Democrats (and a few of the usual RINOs) who filibustered it.  Kinda like the <a href="http://biggovernment.com/mzak/2010/05/31/republican-roots-of-the-1964-civil-rights-act/">1964 Civil Rights Act&#8211;Democrats filibustered that one</a>, too.  <a href="http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Civil_Rights_Filibuster_Ended.htm">Look it up</a>.</p>
<p>Does anyone see a pattern here?</p>
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