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		<title>ACORN Document Dump: Trashed Documents Are Relevant to Investigation</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you heard the one about the pimp, prostitute, politician and the community organizer?  Well, thanks to San Diego private investigator Derrick Roach, Californians are not laughing at what is turning into a political nightmare for California Attorney General Jerry Brown and ACORN.  On Tuesday, November 24, Attorney General Brown appeared on KABC’s &#8220;Peter Tilden [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you heard the one about the pimp, prostitute, politician and the community organizer?  Well, thanks to San Diego private investigator Derrick Roach, Californians are not laughing at what is turning into a political nightmare for California Attorney General Jerry Brown and ACORN.  <a href="http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/27/calif-attorney-general-offers-incoherent-troubling-answers-when-asked-about-acorn-doc-dump/">On Tuesday, November 24, Attorney General Brown appeared on KABC’s &#8220;Peter Tilden Show&#8221;</a> after it was revealed that some 20,000 documents had been thrown into a National City dumpster by ACORN employees.</p>
<p>The documents were thrown out in advance of state investigators arriving at the local ACORN office to conduct an investigation resulting from national media attention.  ACORN employee Juan Carlos Vera was videotaped giving advice to two individuals posing as a pimp and a prostitute regarding underage prostitution and human smuggling.  Without admitting any wrongdoing ACORN terminated Mr. Vera, or so they said.  Documents provided to BigGovernment.com show that Mr. Vera was not terminated but was simply laid off, implying that Mr. Vera is also eligible for rehire. (The document also notes that Mr. Vera was laid off due to &#8220;restructuring&#8221; related to &#8220;videotaping incident.)</p>
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<p>Other documents provided to BigGovernment.com show that in the wake of the national scandal involving underage prostitution and human smuggling, ACORN employees were communicating with media, law enforcement and internally among ACORN offices as to how to develop a storyline that could explain the undercover videos taken of Mr. Vera.  One of those documents with San Diego television station 10News is shown below:</p>
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<p>As a result of the undercover videos surfacing and the national media attention that followed, internal documents that were thrown in the trash and recovered by Derrick Roach reveal that ACORN was well aware that personal information for individuals who have applied for services and individuals on so-called “yes lists” needed to be secured under lock and key.</p>
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<p>Ironically, the only part of this tumultuous episode that may in fact be a joke is that California Attorney General Jerry Brown is running for governor, again.  At age 71, California’s top cop and erstwhile Gov. Moonbeam might benefit from a refresher course in current law.  Attorney General Brown cited a case from the 1960’s where items placed in the garbage were considered private; however, in 1988 the United States Supreme Court ruled in a case, <a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&amp;vol=486&amp;invol=35"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>California v. Greenwood, 486 U.S. 35 (1988)</em>,</span></a> that there was no expectation of privacy when items are thrown in the garbage since it is common knowledge that plastic garbage bags are readily accessible to animals, children, scavengers, snoops, and other members of the public.  As for the local National City ordinance prohibiting scavenging through garbage that the ACORN office and its supporters cite, that law was enacted in 1984 and was nullified by the United States Supreme Court ruling just four years later.</p>
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		<title>What Happens When a PI Dumpster Dives Behind a San Diego ACORN Office?</title>
		<link>http://biggovernment.com/dgiles/2009/11/26/what-happens-when-a-pi-dumpster-dives-behind-a-san-diego-acorn-office/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Giles</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[He strikes the flippin’ mother lode! At least that’s what happened to private investigator Derrick Roach at the National City (San Diego) ACORN office.  Yep, Roach scored big-time on the cockroaches of ACORN when he staked out their San Diego workplace.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He strikes the flippin’ mother lode! At least that’s what happened to private investigator Derrick Roach at the National City (San Diego) ACORN office.  Yep, Roach scored big-time on the cockroaches of ACORN when he staked out their San Diego workplace.</p>
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<p>According to señor Roach via <a href="http://www.biggovernment.com/"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">BigGovernment.com</span></a>, after the release of the San Diego ACORN sting videos—which my daughter Hannah, James O’Keefe, and Andrew Breitbart dropped on the Nation’s head—and following Governor Schwarzenegger’s call for a probe into this batty zoo, Roach took it upon himself to get busy and see if he could ferret out more funky filth from this nefarious gang.</p>
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<p>And, as stated, Roach scored more than Dwayne Wade would playing hoops against blind five-year-old, one-legged narcoleptic midgets.</p>
<p>What did Papa Roach come across?  Well, my children, it was stuff like …</p>
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<li>Information exposing the inner workings of ACORN in California.</li>
<li>Sensitive personal information belonging to employees, members and ACORN clients, such as social security numbers, driver’s license numbers, immigration records, and tax returns.</li>
<li>ACORN’s political agenda is also laid bare, with thousands upon thousands of documents revealing the depth of the political machine that is ACORN and its disturbing ties not only to public employee labor unions but some of the most radical leftist organizations in existence (I wonder which politicians we will discover are in cahoots with these goofy clowns?).</li>
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<p>The timing of this 20k plus page paper plunk of sensitive and incriminating 411 is kinda interesting as well.  Check it out:</p>
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<li>On October 1, 2009 California Attorney General Jerry announced that he was going to do a little look-see inside ACORN’s hull to determine if their San Diego office was as innocent as Bertha Lewis, David Lagstein and the Mange Stream Media screamed them to be.</li>
<li>“Coincidently,” just a few days prior to when AG Brown was slated to pay them a howdy-doo, low and behold, on October 9, ACORN San Diego decided to do a bit of midnight spring cleaning and dump all their docs in a public dumpster to spruce up the joint before the AG’s arrival.</li>
<li>Unfortunately for poor ACORN, PI Derrick Roach was parked outside waiting for them to do something stupid like dump 20,000 plus pages of their corporate papyrus and their clients’ personal records in a trash bin behind their slim shady facilities.</li>
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<p>By the way, are there laws governing how personal info like social security numbers, tax returns, driver’s license numbers and stuff like that should be handled?  I’m thinking there would be.  Hmmm, I don’t know.  Maybe Media Matters will look into it; if there are laws demanding stringent care and disposal of sensitive info, it looks like ACORN, prima facia, could be in deep crap with a stack of folks for placing their private stories in a public dumpster.</p>
<p>I would now like to address you, Mr. Roach.  Good job, old chap! As Hannah Giles’ father and one who has been on the receiving end of the ACORN/Mange Stream Media stick, please take my advice and brace for the vilifying crunch from these numb nuts.</p>
<p>They’re are going to hit you with retarded stuff like …</p>
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<li>How dare a conservative PI jump into a dumpster and steal trash?!  It’s unethical.</li>
<li>You’re not a legitimate trash man.  You’ve never been to trash man school.</li>
<li>The trash did not give its consent to be removed from the dumpster.  California law requires garbage to give its go-ahead before it is embraced by another.</li>
<li>FOX News paid you 100 kadrillion dollar$ to dumpster dive.</li>
<li>You tried this at thousands of other ACORN dumpsters and came up snake eyes.</li>
<li>No other ACORN office would ever dispose of their clients’ records like this, except, of course, for that Oklahoma ACORN branch that left all their computers and crap on the curb after they got kicked out of their building for not paying the bills.</li>
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<p>ACORN, naturally, is going into full damsel in distress mode, stating it was an accident and a coincidence that it occurred right before Brown and his boys were to perform their investigative colonoscopy into ACORN’s corrupt underbelly.</p>
<p>ACORN also blathered that Roach stole their trash.  Stole your trash?  Hey ACORN, once you place your clients’ sensitive info and your political playbook into le garbage it is public domain.  Every hooker running a whorehouse with underage sex slaves knows that.</p>
<p>Lastly, will the little darlings on the left report this?  Will Eric Holder call for a brutal investigation into the ACORNucopia of corruption of which BigGov and some citizen soldiers have uncovered?  Garsh … who knows!  I guess we poor little serf’s of Obamaland will just have to wait and see.</p>
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