Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist Behind Anti-Chamber of Commerce Internet Campaign
by Larry O'ConnorHas the White House been influenced by a convicted domestic terrorist for its attack on the Chamber of Commerce?
The latest assault on the Chamber has been spear-headed by none other than the President himself and picked up by David Axelrod, MoveOn.org and all the usual Astro-Turfers who receive marching orders from the DNC. It’s become part of the standard talking points for cable-news pundits and their well-programmed guests and has been the new rallying cry for the left as they try their best to explain the imminent electoral disaster that looms on November 2nd.
But one group was well ahead of the curve on this movement to stop the Chamber of Commerce. In fact, they even own the URL “StopTheChamber.com”. That group is the infamous Velvet Revolution headed by convicted violent criminal and bomber, Brett Kimberlin. In her extensive and detailed article on Kimberlin and his past violent crimes, Liberty Chick noted that left-wing blogs and main stream media organs routinely site Kimberlin and his partner, Brad Friedman as legitimate sources and as normative “watch-dogs” over-seeing right-wing election shenanigans. The problem is, Kimberlin is a convicted domestic terrorist who has been described as a habitual liar by those who have looked into his past.
And yet, the mainstream Democrats clinging to any strategy to stop the bleeding over the next two weeks are latching on to the Stop the Chamber narrative that was first hatched at Kimberlin’s Velvet Revolution site last year.
At first glance, the StopTheChamber page looks like a clearing house for various, unfounded attacks on the Chamber of Commerce by Velvet Revolution and by politicians who repeat their assertions. But, it doesn’t take you long to see the prominent “Donate Now” button in the center of the page. And, it looks like it’s working. The bottom of the page lists over 4,000 names of individuals who appear to be supporters of the movement (we have no idea if any of them realize they are putting money in the pocket of a convicted violent felon). Interestingly, the first name on this list of individual supporters is Bill Moyers.
The Stop the Chamber campaign appears to be nothing more than a fund-raising operation that solicits donations and then produces press releases and an advertisement in the style of a Wanted poster soliciting “tips” on the CEO of the Chamber, Tom Donohue. It seems to be a two-pronged fishing expedition: One is fishing for “tips” that prove “criminal behavior” by Mr. Donohue and the Chamber (an expedition that has proven to be fruitless as of now), the other is fishing for donations to continue the campaign’s valuable work.
How Kimberlin has been able to pass himself off as a legitimate and respected part of the national political dialogue is a question that deserves exploring, if not some serious soul-searching from our friends on the left who appear to be ready to latch-on to anyone who might be effective for them regardless of how many disgraceful skeletons inhabit their closets. But what is truly outrageous is how eagerly our President and his associates have followed this man’s lead in pursuing this fruitless enterprise of demonizing the Chamber, demonizing Karl Rove and demonizing the Tea Party despite the lack of evidence to substantiate the obscene charges they are leveling.
We have already heard David Axelrod’s new standard for making these accusations. When asked if he had any proof that the Chamber was involved in campaign fraud, he responded by asking CBS’ Bob Schieffer: “Do you have any proof that they aren’t?” That is the President’s closest advisor turning the Constitution and the Magna Carta on its head for the sake of winning a vote or two.
If they are willing to do that, then they are surely willing to align themselves with a habitual liar and convicted bomber like Kimberlin. The question is: Other than this site, who else will be willing to call them out on it?
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It's easy to tell when your bucket is empty.
Can't wait for these crooks to be exposed and banished. Citizens should be running the Republic, not Career Politicians.
This is the reason many can't even attribute Obama's policies to simple stupidity any more, that so many think he's out to purposefully wreck the economy. Does anyone, even a dim bulb leftist, actually think launching a sustained attack on the tax revenue and employment generating engine of this economy is somehow going to make either tax revenue or employment go up?
On another front, Glenn Beck's call to donate to the Chamber ended up breaking the record for one day fundraising. And he never even mentioned this domestic terrorist. I hope he picks up on this story.
Bill Ayers retired this year too, anybody know where he is right now?? He was also last seen marching with Hamas in Dec 2009 and helping to organize the flotilla that killed 9 people.
This bologna may sell when things are good. Right now many are praying that someone in the membership of the C of C will have a job for them.
The New Black Panthers,…..
Acorn and Bertha Lewis,………
A Jones,………
come on Larry,..
we are not talking about a quantum leap here.
Marching orders to the minions. Reminds me of thoses marching in Ralph Bakshi's Wizards. All to the background of Triumph of the Will.
Heil Barry-Bop!
Does Obama get his ideas from Brett Kimberlin,or does Brett get his ideas from Obama?
Liars seem to have an incestous relationship with the thieves in the further promotion of the PROGRESSIVE AGENDA.
Is anyone really surprised by this important info? I only visualize this adminsitration and their minions as dark, subterranean, evil and ugly creatures that saw the first light of day after the "coronation" and think that their status as blood-sucking tyrants is forever embedded in this country's future. Their eyes are so clouded over with hate and corruption that they cannot see what is coming. .
“Is this the best you’ve got?” The liberals are flailing about hysterically, 11/2 should be a liberal head popping event, what fun.
Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist = American Liberal.
Is it permitted to hope that Ayers goes along with the next ship and that he cannot swim?
Living in a glass house while throwing stones is not likely to end well….
LOL
Say it ain't so !!!
Where are the Lawyers ?
RICO in the very least all the way to the POTUS
Now we know why GITMO is still open
The POTUS knows it is the only Muslim freindly jail
And Imam Hussein Obama is going to spend his final days on earfh in a Tropical Prison (GITMO is Hawai Jr )
Hahahahahahahaha
On the bright side, Beck contributed $10K to the Chamber during his radio show yesterday. It resulted in the largest donation day the Chamber has had in 100 years. So many others contributed that it overloaded their servers. Beck did it to spite the Marxist regime and I find that very amusing.
I t must be the pillow talk and they get their stories straight
I think that is why Rahm left
Ayers was getting more face time with the POTUS than him.
Such men have been spoken of; 2nd Timothy 3:1-5. They knew so long ago that this filth would infect our time.
The Chamber of Commerce supported AMNESTY. To Hell with them.
What the author failed to point out is the same 501(c)6 organization which the Chamber is using to pay for the political adds also receives contributions from foreign corporations. Since the Chamber will not open their books to an independent audit, how does anyone know the truth? So it is not a stretch for the Democrats to accuse the Chamber of using foreign funds because their division which is running the political adds is receiving foreign funds.
Have you stopped beating your wife? Prove that you have.
Larry, you dolt. You're apparently comfortable with Chinese government owned corporations flooding our electoral system as they see fit to elect pathological pro-corporatist tools, and so is the Chamber of Commerce. If they weren't embarrassed by their funding sources, they'd disclose them . Enjoy Watergate II, and RepuibiTea irrelevance. You people are too stupid for your own good.
Excuse me, but all you have to do is ask her so your analogy is pointless. All the Chamber has to do is bring in an independent auditor, let them review the list and publish an opinion. It happens all the time in the business world. I have seen numerous posts on the Big sites stating the individuals who are associated with the Ground Zero mosque should publish a list of their donors, but the Chamber should not publish a list of their donors even when they acknowledge foreign companies have made contributions to the same organization running the political ads. You people really have no shame.
Strawman!
Now you see Dan, that has verve, very direct, you insult Larry in the first sentence, kind of like “Jane you ignorant slut.” It’s utter bullshit non the less, but more to the point, giving the reader the idea that you have a point, and that would be completely beside the point, please excuse the redundancy. As trolling goes you hit the high points, insulting, condescending, strawman structure, liberal talking points, so I give you a “6.” We look forward to your next screed with great anticipation…thanks for playing.
Attacking the National Chamber of Commerce.
The Obama White House, a domestic terrorist enterprise. Who'd ever thunk!
Sorry, Stan, but this is not a strawman argument because it simply demonstrates how hypocritical a stance is repeatedly taken by numerous persons on this page.
Nobody cares Husk! Classic liberal projection, with a false premise…strawman.
What is false about it? Are you saying there have not been numerous posts on the Bigs sites stating the donors of the mosque should be made public? I guess the truth hurts.
Now Husk, you’re getting overly excited. You can huff-n-puff with all of the righteous indignation that you posses, and still – nobody will give a shit. But you keep pounding that strawman Husk, I’d expect no less.
Small wonder Obama had to be sedated. http://standupamericaus.com/obama-fit-mentally:39...
These are all criminals who aren't going into an election they are waiting for a jury to return a verdict. I can hear the sweat beads hitting the floor. They are all jockying for a hiding spot or an excuse or a deal.
Absolutely. It never has been 'stupidity' with Leftists in general, and Obama in particular. Because the alleged stupidities are so damn stupid that even a five-year-old-retarded-child wouldn't engage in those. The truth is very simple, and extremely dreadful. The Leftists, and Obama, have always wanted to destroy any free society. Ours is the freest and most successful and most powerful one at that. They can not possibly take it over permanently without first knee-capping it and then chaining the citizenry in multiple odious regulatory nets. And that is precisely the Left has been doing for 80 years now. And Obama's time, and 111th congresss's time, meaning the present time is special because for the first time in 80 years the Left has such grip over Democratic party, an d through it, on the government where they have supermajorities, and a fellow-traveller president, not to mention a compliant judiciary, and willing media as willing accomplices (rather than merely shills). It is the ZEINTH of Leftist run in America (and hence in the world). They are ACCELRATEDLY doing everything in their power to weaken america before the 2012 (by which all elections will be a moot point) … they are not doing counter-intuitive things. They are SAYING the unbelievable things. THey want to take over the internet—they call it 'Net Neutrality". They want to take over Talk Radio, they call it, "Diversity Ownership Program", they want to take over mainstream media (which is almost theirs), they call it, "Rescuing Conventional Journalism", they want to wreck the economy by cap and trade, they call it 'saving the planet'. They want to blow a major bllow to american economy in the first month of their regime, they call it, "Stimulus" … They want to destroy and take over the health industry—they call it "Health Care REFORM', they want to wreck and chain Finance, and they call it, "Financial Reform" …. if you just pay attention to WHAT they are doing rather than what they *say* they are attempting, it is obvious, even to a blind that they are mean boys.
Yes and the founders said it every way they could think of too and here we are, measuring the amount of fertilizer required to save the liberty tree. My green thumb says add lots, water well and prune out all the non fruit bearing branches.
Gollum….they sssstole my precioussss my precioussss yes yesssss
The problem we face, as I see it, is that the Obama camp is so full of people without real jobs and so much time on their hands that they can recruit thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands to run such sites and to troll sites like this.
We're faced with the dilemma of working full time jobs to support our families and pay taxes and cannot field the armies of trolls and lying weasels they can.
I'm struggling here to understand why the Chamber of Commerce is an organization that must be stopped. Doesn't that organization also enjoy rights under the First Amendment? Don't they have the right to defend the best interests of their members?
Do their opponents have a clue about what the membership of that organization represents? Productive enterprises that provide jobs!!
What's next, the JayCees? Junior League? Volunteer Fire Departments? Neighborhood Watch?
When they're done raising hell and investigating the Chamber of Commerce for allegedly accepting foreign donations (which I suspect come from the US Chambers of Commerce in thousands of foreign cities the membership of which is US citizens), does anyone think they will extend that investigation to the sources of Obama's huge war chest in 2008, and since then?
You just want the list of donors so that you can harass them on their front lawns. Where is the list of Obama's foreign donors?
Nobody said the Chamber was perfect. Only that it does not deserve the crap it is getting accused of.
As far as I have heard they WILL be releasing their donor lists, as they have to BY LAW….they just do not have to do it PRIOR to the election.
Sorry folks….you'll have to wait to start your intimidation tactics and outright thuggery until AFTER the fact. Ain't no stopping it now.
Magic from a distance is good, but nothing beats an up close and personal smiting.
"We have already heard David Axelrod’s new standard for making these accusations. When asked if he had any proof that the Chamber was involved in campaign fraud, he responded by asking CBS’ Bob Schieffer: “Do you have any proof that they aren’t?"'
I read it before somewhere and it's just like the article stated – Axelroid is asking the Chamber to prove a negative, and prove that they're not doing such and such accusation.
(–Insert Axelroid repeating his original “if they’ll only do what we’ve refused to do since day one to prove they’re innocent, then we’ll quit slandering them” line here–)
Good question. Or is the idiotic troll seriously going to try and tell us there aren't any?
Did you have a problem with the Chinese govt giving money to Bill Clinton's campaign? I doubt it.
And irrelevant. The thing is, if you really feel strongly about people not disclosing such things, then the first
thing you’ll do is to disclose your own dirty laundry. That way you can say “here, we’re practicing what we’re preaching, so what are you guys afraid of?" Which is a sure winner in any debate. At any rate, no matter what, you do NOT whine about somebody else doing exactly the same thing you’re doing yourself.
You conveniently forget that the Democratic Socialist Party are in total power, therefore, the onus is on them. Thanks for showing your hypocrisy again. Like we needed reminded.
You’re just as illiterate as your boy Obama, aren’t you? This concern never penetrated the Lame Stream Media Blackout of 2008, so this concern didn’t get all that much play. Just like every other concern about Boy King Narcissus.
What? Much like your ward heel never disclosed a thing about where his donations were coming from back in 2008. You know, back when his “donate” button didn’t even have the most basic of verification routines set up to make sure that donations were legal. Remember that? Yeah, we do too. Sorry about that.
SuckersBo is a strawman. See the "red"? Everytime he/she/it marches over here it engulfs in flames.
"Excuse me, but all you have to do is ask her so your analogy is pointless."
Wrong! She'll lie about it because she's afraid that you'll beat her again. Prove that she won't.
Clinton already sold the Chinese most of our national security secrets and they don't want any more of the debt Obama is trying to cram down their throats. What are you worried about?
Interesting link, but checking the guys (Wayne Madsen) Bio I find hes a Cheney did it False flag 911 truther. All credibility evaporates for me at that point. If one wants to speculate on political assassinations (Arch Duke Ferdinan, Kennedy, Lincoln, Marilyn Monroe etc.) have at it. The removal of a single figure or kabal for some paranoids perceived greater good is one thing. The murder of thousands of innocent country men for some etherial plot for money or power doesn't stand the stink test.
Sorry Daley, but you really need to take a course in logic. But, then again, I bet junior college was really hard, now wasn't it? The reason the analogy does not apply is in the Chambers situation, all the have to do is have their records verified by an independent audit.
Boy, you people are really, really, stupid. Do you know what an audit is? Let me help you. Every publicly traded company has to have their books audited. I know it is a governmental regulation and you hate regulations. Anyway, when the books are audited, do they publish a list of the company's customers? Of course not. In this case all the auditor would have to state is whether foreign money was used. End of argument.
He did. The problem you have is you believe Pamela Geller.
Two words, George S-O-R-O-S. This community organizer took two years out of his life raising TWICE as much money as GWBush did in his re-election campaign. And corporate donations? Obama>Bush by almost 80%. And yet we have to hear some lecture about money coming from oversees by the very same lackeys who smiled their way through Barry's presidential run? Not happening. As others have mentioned, this is nothing more than an attempt to deflect attention away from THEIR side being bought and paid for. And the people starting to figure that out.
Credibility , now there's an interesting concept. So in order for a conspiracy to be validated it must be proved true? How might that happen? I guess if there is a threshold beyond which the complexity of a conspiracy makes it impossible to perceive that a good planner is worth his payoff. I also tend to believe this as it isn't the first report of Obama becoming unglued. Further, if it isn't true there would be a response by the WH to stop the slander.
On theories, where did the high explosive residue come from? It is entirely possible there were multiple plots unknown to eachother all working at the same end. That being quite plausible, a plan to bring the towers down with a blast may have been interrupted/ upstaged by the kamikazee assault. Unless Cheney is a radical Muslim I don't see a connection.
Yes. Talk about the strawman argument. We are talking about the Chamber of Commerce. You know, the organization that has set up an entity and this entity accepts foreign contributions and buys political ads. As a true conservative, I do not want foreign money being spent on my country's elections. Do you?
Spoken like a true Communist. You serve your master well.
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What's the matter? Don't you want that "CHANGE" that your messiah promised you? It's coming in 17 days! BE HAPPY! We sure are!
In the words of CBS's Bob Schieffer: "Is that all you've got? Really, Mr. President?"
It's all circling the drain now, Stinky. You're just doing what bugs do when the toilet gets flushed. Clinging to whatever filthy muck you can lay your tentacles on in a vain attempt to save your worthless existence. In 17 days that giant "BAWHOOSH" sound you'll be hearing is you and all your little cockroach buddies being sucked into the abyss.
Husk! …you might hurt someone’s feelings with that ugly tone. Just a thought…why don’t you get yourself a bowl of Coco-Puffs, and watch some toon-toons, I bet Captain Planet’s on, and you can dream of a world without petroleum products, and come back and play later with a better attitude.
Since this interview, it has become public that the same organization which the Chamber is using to pay for the ads, accepts foreign contributions. As a true conservative, I think you would be very concerned that some of the foreign money the Chamber received could end up paying for political advertisements. Once again, all the Chamber has to do is have their books audited by an independent auditor. They have refused. Let's put it another way. Would you invest in a publicly traded corporation who refused to have their books independently audited? Of course not. Now answer the next question. Why?
Excuse me, but how do you know the Chamber has not used money from COMMUNIST CHINA to pay for political advertisements? The answer is: you do not. So perhaps you are the true communist.
"I think you would be very concerned that some of the foreign money the Chamber received could end up paying for political advertisements."
And yet…I'm not. I COULD explain to you why you are wrong on so many different levels, but I enjoy watching you flail about in your own stupidity. 17 days to go, Stinky. Pucker up! This one is going to sting!
Wrong on so many different levels? Please, genius in the words of one of your heroines- Man Up! Please list what is incorrect on the above post? The Chambers books in this area are not subject to an independent audit? True. An independent audit would be able to confirm whether foreign funds were used? True. The Chamber has refused to have their books independently audited? True.
Let's see, Stan. Who started the name calling? Hmmm.
Thanks for the entertainment! Now…your next reply will be "you can't back up your claim, so I win". I told you I enjoy watching you wallow in your own stupidity. Why would I deprive myself of that pleasure? Thanks again, Stinky. Roflmao!
***17 DAYS and counting***
Boo hoo hoo! My name is Stinky BO and I don't understand why no one will feel sorry for me! I have it ALL figured out. Why won't anyone listen to my "wisdom"?
ROFLMFAO NOW!!!!
I’m sorry Husk, I thought you knew that “strawman” is a premise, you think of yourself as “a” strawman, my apologizes. Halloween’s coming, maybe you have your costume? Kind of like a scarecrow, but different.
My goodness Husk, does Axelrod have something over you buddy, please read slowly…nobody gives a shit, and I really mean nobody.
Qualye, this can be very simple to explain without the need of anyone getting stupid about it.
First off, Obama and the Dems have no proof of their claim about the Chamber and they are using this as a distraction from their own failed efforts as they have nothing to merit or claim to work as promised. Second, Obama and many Dems have taken money from offshore sources like George Soros, BP, and other outside connections. Face facts, the Dems cant make this claim themselves unless they admit they are doing it to.
In short, its a worthless effort to distract the public from the issues and it just shows the corruption of the left as they keep up the act. You have to be an idiot to have bought into this anti-chamber crap.
Walking up to a monster and going THWACK is extremely satisfying, but my melee stats are teh suck. I think I may roll a paladin next.
The source for the accusation is a whistle blower who works for the Chamber and was repulsed by the instructions foreign corporations were getting on how to circumvent U.S. election law. The Dems are being outspent 8-1. It'll come out eventually.
"Excuse me, but all you have to do is ask her so your analogy is pointless."
I still have not seen you present evidence that you have stopped beating your wife.
The question is directly applicable to the baseless charges you are making against the COC. Do you have any evidence the foreign contribution they are taking in are being used for campaign advertising? No you do not. In fact you have their repeated denials, but those are unacceptable to you. You claim they need an audit specifically around this area.
I will not believe the statements of your battered wife that you have stopped beating her.
Please prove to me that you have stopped beating your wife.
This stuff is so freaking simple even a liberal should be able to figure it out!
Do you have a link for that claim and is the source anonymous. The article I read made no claims about the former Chamber employee saying instructions were given about evading U.S. campaign finance laws.
WOW a lot to chew on there
First let me make it clear I beleive Obama at the very least suffers from a Narcissistic personality disorder. I beleive he suffers an extreme case and although I am not an expert in the field this President has caused me to research this problem to some extent. I suspect that some digging, perhaps in his college records, would devulge he suffers from the most extreme case. the tell would be evidence of sexual asault or violence.
That said lets go on to your question.
So in order for a conspiracy to be validated it must be proved true?
YES that is correct how else could one validate anything.
Otherwise this theory of 9/11 would have to be considered "validated" as well.
The KKK and the NAACP decided to boost their membership by staging a joint cross burning that got out of control. The resulting fire caught the cars in the parking garage on fire eventually resulting in the simultaneous explosion of the gas tanks of Ford Pintos and Ford pick-up trucks. The vehicles had been brought there for a secret exhibit of insurance underwriters. The explosion was so sever it brought downthe first tower the resulting natural gas leak in the ground below pumped millions of cubic feet of natural gas into the second tower eventually blowing it up as well.
Finally the cosmic coinsidence attack you propose at the end is indeed intresting It was Wayne Madsen that brough Cheney into question which is why I mention him. Isn't the simpler explanation more plausible?
On 9/11 Airplanes fully loaded with fuel were hijack in the prosess killing several civilians. Panicked passengers called relatives telling them what was happening. Passengers on all planes with the exception of one followed the previously sucessful plan of doing what they were told until the plane landed. Many people on the ground watched in horror from the sites of the world trade towers. Many millions more watched on television as the fully loaded planes crashed into the twin towers exploding into balls of flame. Thousands of workers in the towers attempted to call out to love ones as cell phone service was overwhelmed with 911 calls. Brave public safety employees rescued who they could and many were killed in the attempt. One planes passengers hearing what had happened to other planes that day resisted. Although those passengers were unsuccessful in getting control of the plane they did force the Jihadists to crash the plane short of the target.
ANY other theory of events is just a form of denial, trying to put a bigger face on the bargin basement attack by villians filled with midevil rage cheapens the innocents lives and the heroes sacrifice
Transparency would end the problems/ conspiracy. Questions need to be addressed by the PTB. It is a fundamental right of the people to seek redress and when thwarted a conspiracy, the favored debunking claim by those obstructing due process, emerges.
This is how confusing info generates mistrust. It is stated Cheney ordered a stand down of military covered airspace on 9-11. Petitions have been made to that and not been answered, why? I have a family member serving in the AF whose job puts him in intimate contact with fighter pilots. The rumor he hears among his circles is that they actually shot down flight 93. Why would that be circulating on base? These two scenarios are connected at the hip, addressing them would be prudent , would it not? It is the duty of our government to do it's best to maintain public peace and tranquility yet it does the opposite, why?
Exactly, the Chamber will release its list of donors when Obama produces his real birth certificate. And to clarify, I'm not a birther. He's our legitimately elected president. But if he's going to hitch his wagon to the full disclosure mantra he at least ought to put his birth certificate where his piehole is.
Actually I am a CPA. This is an invented problem because the dems have nothing else. Again, where is the list of Obama's foreign donors. It is my understanding that Obama's campaign took active steps to allow foreign contributions ~ millions and millions of them. From: notifications@intensedebatemail.comTo: karolfarahnak@hotmail.comSubject: HuskersLoveBo replied to your comment on Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist Behind Anti-Chamber of Commerce Internet Campaign
Nice sharing,thanks alot.
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