Breaking: Dutch Authorities Claim No Accomplice in Airport; Contradicts Eye-Witness Account
by Larry O'ConnorAccording to Reuters, Dutch authorities have announced that Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab, the terrorist who penetrated the Dutch security system on Christmas Day on Flight 253 to Detroit, acted alone with no accomplices at the Amsterdam airport.
This directly contradicts the first-hand, eye-witness account from Kurt Haskell, a lawyer from Taylor, Michigan who was on board Flight 253. We have reported Mr. Haskell’s account here at Big Government as well as his interview with Andrew Breitbart on The Dennis Miller Show, the nationally syndicated radio program on Westwood One.
Mr. Haskell tells us he is sticking to his story. “I’m not surprised, we expected this. They are trying to discredit me without actually PROVING me wrong. But, I’m not going to shut-up about this.“
When asked if the FBI or the Dutch authorities had contacted him to assist in viewing the video tape from the airport to pinpoint the moment where he saw a gentleman of Indian descent trying to usher Mr. Mutallab through the standard security procedures because he did not have proper paperwork, Mr Haskell replied, “No, they have not asked me to help them at all. I asked the FBI to let me see the video tape, and I have heard nothing back. I only want to see a two-minute section of the tape. Until they can show me the tape, I will stick to my story. “
“I don’t understand. This was an act of terrorism. I was on that plane. I was the one being terrorized; I am a victim of this act. And yet, they are trying to discredit me, but they have not shown me the evidence proving I was wrong. I know exactly when I saw what I saw. If they would just let me see the video we could get to the truth. “
It appears that Mr. Haskell has no real motive or agenda in all of this. He is an example of a citizen speaking out and attempting to aid in the investigation of this serious security breach at the Amsterdam Airport. Instead of being lauded for his courage and efforts, he is being shut-out and rebuked.
In the spirit of openness and transparency, what is the harm in letting Mr. Haskell view the video tape so this matter can be cleared up?
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Dutch authorities are lying? No… It cannot be. Governments always tell us the truth….
If Mr. & Mrs. Haskell are lying, then HOW did the underwear bomber get through security and get on the plane WITHOUT A PASSPORT?
Are people lying about the Indian man wearing orange, also?
We no longer trust ANY government, especially our own, to tell us the truth. The only thing we can't figure out is WHY they are lying about this terrorist attack and plot.
Everyone is repeating this claim that our man-cub with the fiery undies had no accomplices without regard to or mention of contradictory accounts of events. It's not the first time this has happened either, the discounting of eyewitness statements.
" Discredit me without proving me wrong."
Sounds like what Media Matters are doing with Breitbart.
Just sayin'
Move along. Nothing to see here. Our dear leader has everthing under control.
The brand the undie bomber was wearing?
Fruit of the BOOM!
Now watch for Attack of the Body Scanners.
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff
Apparently, every government on the planet thinks their citizens are blathering idiots. Why believes this? No one.
Stuff, you made me laugh… well done!
Is this man caused disaster going to be another lump under Holder's rug too?
When it comes to governmental treatment of its citizenry the one-liner…."I'll piss on you and tell you it's raining" applies.
i put your thumb back up., quit dropping it on the floor. a liberal doesn't look where he walking, but then again neither does a republican. the whole nose in the air thing.
Someone somewhere has video of this and may not even realize it, ie family video shoot "at the airport before we leave".
At the least this airport itself may have it.
The left in typical fashion redirect the issue and go after the messenger…. How are those emails, phone calls, faxes and protests working out for you America? They aren't! Your playing their game… STOP and play your game through Saving the Republic
Amazing how it takes $10 million just to say Brietbart was wrong about Bertha Lewis (without a shred of proof) and $3.5 trillion budget and a worldwide apology tour to say Haskell is wrong (without a shred of proof).
Trust a government or trust a private citizen with nothing to gain…hmmm?
They are acting stupidly.
Airport Security has the video which they refuse to show. By now, it's been tampered with and certain elements deleted by order of the higher echelon. They don't want you to know the truth. I have this link I will post and maybe this is the truth. I don't know but you draw your own conclusions:
http://tpartyus2010.ning.com:80/profiles/blog/sho...
They are lying because Hussein Obama needed the public to want to bomb Yemen.
Could be authorities do not want to make public any leads that they have concerning accomplices. Our government is made up of people- not all of whom are corrupt.
Alas, there are many of the citizens that are just that, blathering idiots – this is why the governments feel they have a license to lie and manipulate. As for the blathering idiots, have you ever read any of the Daily Kos spoutings?
What do you think of that NIKE emblem on the kid's hat? Wonder if they will drop his sponsorship? (Warning: This is a joke!)
Start suing the govt for the mental stress associated with the terroist acts. No different than water boarding in my liberal book.
It is a familiar story indeed,
This eye witness on Christmas Day describing a man "screaming about Afghanistan" was WRONGLY attributed to the Nigerian terrorist.
CNN report of 2nd incident-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK3iZ08UNjw
Eye witness describing screaming man-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4I-73JJleo
This eye witness is actually talking about a seperate incident. Coincidentally, this was also a Northwest/Delta flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day which landed before the Nigerian terrorist flight. The man was screaming pro-Afghanistan and anti-American sentiments while throwing food and he was arrested.
If you search Google News you can see lots of articles attributing the "screaming about Afghanistan" quote to the Nigerian terrorist, yet no one has corrected the mistake.
And the mainstream media is where on this?
I believe this guy. I am just trying to see how the FBI or Dutch governments would benefit by denying what actually happened. I just don't see the upside to lying about what should be on security video.
This is no surprise. Something's up and they want the man to "forget" what he saw. Again, the victim is guilty.
starting to not trust the Dutch government? starting to not trust our own government? seems like this happened before and there was a war that went along with it… now which one could that be?
the entire world incl us, eu, ect is being deceived by their governments. its time we threw them out one way or another
You are right. Still no info about the guy wearing orange, taken into custody in the holding area after the bomb dogs hit on his carry on luggage. As if the passengers hadn't already gone through enough with the terrorist act……. but then they had to be moved to another area because the holding area in Detroit wasn't safe.
Why are we not getting more details on that? I've heard nothing on this since the original eye witness statement. This is another critical piece of the puzzle.
You are right. Still no info about the guy wearing orange, taken into custody in the holding area after the bomb dogs hit on his carry on luggage. As if the passengers hadn't already gone through enough with the terrorist act……. but then they had to be moved to another area because the holding area in Detroit wasn't safe.
Why are we not getting more details on that? I've heard nothing on this since the original eye witness statement. This is another critical piece of the puzzle.
Let's go to the tape!
Let's see: a government on one side (albeit Dutch), a lawyer from Taylor, Michigan on the other. I know whom I will trust, thank you very much.
When are we going to finally accept the truth? Our own governments are not just inept, they are ACTIVELY CONSPIRING with the terrorists on deep levels. The only way to get free men and women to abandon their freedoms is to scare them so bad they run to the protection of "big government." Do we actually believe the TSA is so full of inept and bungling souls that they can't figure out how to do what a second string economy has been doing fairly successfully for 30 years? (Israel) It's not rocket science. There is a REASON such bumbling idiots always manage to be in charge when it's time for another "lesson" from the elitists on how much we (the people) need their "services." When local mobsters do this it's called a "protection racket." When big government does it its called police protection.
that was pretty good…
The arrogance of Big Brother has left us as lowly peasants and slaves to be ignored as they move their evil agenda fast forward.
if you get in their way they will run you over.
yeah! where's Tim Russert when we need him?
He's moved on to a much better place…God rest his soul!
Maybe we need Jesse Ventura to film another Conspiracy Theory episode on TruTV channel. Just being sarcastic
Maybe Napolitano was trying to cover her ass so it didn't seem as though her responsibility was at fault, but either way, does it really make sense that someone helped him onboard? How would that have made a difference at any security checkpoint? I sure don't know anyone with the power to just bypass a friggin passort requirement. Weird huh
" I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts." ~ Abraham Lincoln ~
Too bad we can't believe most media or government (and now science) sources. When trust is broken to such an extent chaos can be the result.
I think Nike should pay for that logo exposure on his cap.
Love that "fruit of the BOOM" comment. I am just glad we can joke about this now. The people on that plane sure were lucky. I believe the lawyer is telling the truth.
I am flying on Thursday and don't feel very safe but I will be watching my fellow passengers and promise to do a "Dutch Treat" on anyone who gets froggy.
Beware 'False Flag' Operations…
Things are tough in DC, and Barry is pretty unpopular. Looks like a 'crisis' is needed… and lookie here! it's the Yemenis! Just when we thought we had all the baddies contained. Joe Liebermann said 'Yemen is the NEXT war'.
Great.
Pretty soon we'll be all ove sub-Saharan Africa looking for the slippery Al Qaeda. Of course, we'll need more troops, and maybe even a 'war tax'.
Is it us or are others just as suspicious of a ginned up looming 'crisis'? Had this worked we would probably have the 82nd Airborne and 75th Rangers in Yemen already; unfortunately the lad had just a pair of fried 'nards to show for it.
It's a comin' folks…
The Dutch ARE STONED outta their gourds on Jamaican hydroponic…
Can you believe this NObama admin. one rookie mistake after another…oh yeah he had no experience. Thanks America…you were fooled..again! Strike three-Health care reform-that is a joke also.
yup. even he would have to be disgusted as a Democrat at the last year of lies and deceit…
Lemme guess: the government.
There's one born every minute…..
Lets take our country back from lying politicians be they democrats or republicans. We can do it. Get your people involved or we will be doomed.
yea, its obamas fault. Is it cause hes brown too?
clearly we all need to use our camcorder on our cellphones more often –until TSA decides that that is dangerous (for them) too…
Mind you, the current Dutch government has been fellating the Muzzies since before 9-11. They even prosecuted MP Geert Wilders for hurting the poor little terroristies' feelings. I trust them even less than I trust Napolitano.
Bert the Traveler: Hey Ernie, why do you have that banana in your ear?
Ernie the TSA Screener: Bert, I have this banana in my ear to keep terrorists away so that you can enjoy safe airline travel.
Bert the Traveler: But Ernie, there aren't any terrorists. Only thousands of law abiding citizens waiting in long lines.
Ernie the TSA Screener: See, its working…..
the only possible "positive" explanation currently is that they did identify the man on the tape but have not yet apprehended him and by currently saying this did not happen, make it easier to capture this person and/or related persons.
however, this more sophisticated handling is pretty unlikely given the trackrecord of the governments
It would be interesting to know if this "terrorist" dirtbag had proper documentation on him or did not. If he did, why would he need someone to help get him on. If he did not, it is very feasible that someone did help him.
I don't believe one syllable coming out of the White House or Washington in general these days.
There are two things I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch!
Schmoke and a pancake? Bong and a blintze? Spoiled Nigerian brat and explosive panties? Well there is no pleasing you.
Show us the tape Dutch boys!
This is called liberalism. You see, the person making this charge indicated that the unknown aide was claiming the terrorist was from Sudan, a country undergoing radical internal struggles and creating many refugees. These people are otherwise known as "Legal Immigrants" to our liberal establishment.
So, the theory here is that the unknown aide was purporting that the terrorist had no passport since he was basically a refugee (not a Nigerian terrorist) but there has apparently been a practice of allowing such refugees to gain entry to the U.S. via international air travel. We just feel sorry for them, screw our air safety.
So much for that hopey, changey thing. Have a nice flight.
I understood that the guy with the terrorist was a Dutch or Northwest airport/airline worker because he said, "WE do this all the time." It would not have been another terrorist using the word 'we'. The airport, with hindsight, having made the mistake of helping a terrorist aboard, would deny having done so. On the other hand, maybe a la the CIA in Afghanistan recently, the person accompanying the terrorist was a government agent who believed that the terrorist was a British terrorist insider (or Yemeni/Somali,Nigerian/Ghanan, etc, terrorist insider) and was going to the US to assist the USA pinpoint sleepers in Detroit, 'WE' being the US or Dutch gov't, not thinking the Muslim was carrying anything. In any event, the Haskell's ought to be believed. Related question – why is Britain of all places pointing the finger at Yemem? Pot, kettle and black come to mind.
Is this just incredible? FEAR your Government, TRUST no politician, and prepair to defend yourself because we got what he promissed a clear and transparent government. I mean I see it clear as day don't you…?
I mean the guy was there and saw everything first hand so whats he going to see thats so sensitive? Well I guess thats the question isnt it?
The FBI should really have no trouble showing an eye witness a tape and letting him point out the incident, if they are refusing I would like to hear an explanation as to why that would be a bad idea.
Hell yes they have it… All you hear about concerning public safety in Europe is how they have cameras everywhere but the toilet stalls. I would bet they have multiple angles of the concourse.
The eyewitnesses were supposed to be scattered over Detroit – wouldn't have mattered what they heard or saw…
I don't know all of the facts, but I think it is fair to say that the Dutch police acted stupidly.
Quite frankly, my bets are on Mr. Haskell.
I'd believe him over any Government, anytime, any day.
fool.
Amazing. No one was taking pictures? No airport security videos? No tourists snapping or taping? Nothing — not even background pictures of the "lone" Mutallab? Everything these days comes down to who do you trust. The government? Hah. The Dutch. Hah. CNN reporting. Ha, ha. So far I'm with Haskell.
Loved it.
They WANT TO believe CNN, that's why. I no longer watch that misleading mess called NEWS, because of their misleading of the populus to suit their political agenda.
Problem here is what happens if the ID of the 'well dressed man' gets out… If airport secuirty gave Umar a 'pass' based upon the presence of this 'well dressed man' then you are talking about someone in the goverment aiding a terrorist. Now that is the real problem and that is what they are trying to hide…
ASny chnce this kid will become Obamie's son-in-law? Just "axing"………………………….
Geez, they're conducting investigations. Until they've come to a conclusion, we can't say one way or the other.
Did I say that? Our dear leader is just a turd in the oval orifice, who happens to be brown. As far as I'm concerned, all Marxists [progressives] are intellectual excrement.
And maybe they could release any of the 80 videos of the plane hitting the Pentagon while they're at it!
Does anyone recall TWA Flight 800. 200 witnesses see a streak of white heading from the sea upwards toward the plane, and then the plane explodes. But it was deemed a mechanical failure. The feds said what they saw was an optical illusion. We're all sheep!
How to avoid boarding suicide bombers at airports: Require all those boarding aircraft to be totally naked. Then fly their baggage on a separate plane using remote control techniques. Allow the passengers to access clothing at the destination after baggage is proven safe. Arrest those who are left naked.
Do NOT vary rules for anyone, especially diplomats or couriers. To be fair, crews should also fly nude.
If that were true, I would fly more often!
I was told by a TSA inspector that the bomber deplaned in Amsterdam into a secured area and didn't even have to go through security again. Off of one plane and on to another. Simple, huh?
Namsorg…………….
I vividly remember the interviews of the people on the beach. Again, it ended up "Move along…nothing to see here…"
You Lie!
Question our dear leader, and out comes the freaken' race card. Pathetic little creatures!
don't worry holder can blame "right wing extremists" and people who don't want gun control…and let another group like the black panthers walk free…but hey. at least we are a "diverse" nation, after all it is bush and whiteys fault
There are two things I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch!
Schmoke and a pancake? Bong and a blintze? Spoiled Nigerian brat and explosive panties? Well there is no pleasing you.
Show us the tape Dutch boys!
So…
We're supposed to trust the DUTCH government? The same diaperheads who got the Aruba murdered girl's case so totally open and shut?
These bums couldn't tell the truth is their lives depended upon it…
And, dear folks, the best way to change the attitudes of OUR government is to vote eacn and every one of those SOBs OUT OF OFFICE in 2010. Yes, dear, that means you own congressional or senatorial scumbag as well…NO MATTER how much money he or she has sucked into your district…
You want America back??? Then THROW THE BUMS OUT.
Love you all…well, maybe not the Progressives…..
Just remember TWA Flight 800… witness intimidation and discrediting happened in spades with that investigation, in order to allow Clinton to not have to acknowledge that what happened was an act of war.
"The only thing we can't figure out is WHY they are lying about this terrorist attack and plot."
Read New Fox News link "Authorities: Jet Bomb Suspect Likely Acted Alone"
Most likely, they are lying and concealing because it is difficult to claim the guy acted "ALONE" when he had accomplices.
The only other possible scenario is that they are doing with the "man in the orange suit" what they should have done with the bomber – trying to get information, instead of prosecuting him in court.
Obama's big meeting yielded that the intelligence failed. In my opinion, the failed intelligence is opening to prosecution our intelligence community, undermining their efforts, and expecting competence and motivation.
I'm so sick of all these governmental bodies, foreign and domestic, spinning the facts to suit themselves I could go postal (maybe a poor choice of words here) on the whole group. Of course, the guy had help, hell he couldn't even set off a bomb he had been in training to explode for three weeks he was an educated idiot, probably the most help came from the airline personnel, jeeze give me a break…..here's a flash from central Kansas to the Dutch and to Washington…..I've got your number and I'm watching you……
Yep. He had his Ph.D. in chemistry, didn't ya know?
I think Kurt Haskell has some explaining to do. The Passport Clearance procedure isn't done at the boarding gate where he presumably claims he witnessed a well dressed Indian gentleman help the Terrorist aboard, but at the checkin counter with the airline security staff. Airlines are fined by the government for allowing passengers without a legitimate passport entry into the country, they're also obligated to fly the passenger back if their entry is denied. It is also in the airlines best interest to keep would be terrorists from blowing their precious aircraft, employees and passengers up. Either way, there is a major inconsistency in Haskell's story because he claims he overheard somebody helping the kid on at the boarding gate, where these things are not generally worked out.
And government officials wonder why there are so many citizens who don't believe a rotten word they say? Seems like the public should not be so quick to dismiss "conspiracy theories."
SHOW THE TAPE!
You'll never see the tape because the quality would embarrass the security at the airport. The terrorist had a US visa anyway so why would he not have a passport? Sounds like mistaken identity.
Yuck.
How did he get on the plane? Hmmmmm. Wonder if it has anything to do with the company in charge of security at the Dutch airport. It's the same company that was in charge of security at Gaulle when the shoe bomber Richard Reid made it onto a plane. In fact, ICTS, is the same company that was in charge of security at Logan and Newark back on 911. Very curious.
Dutch authorities later added, "And further more Joran van der Sloot is innocent!"
IntenseDebate Notification <DIV>Didn't waste any time greasing Tim, did they? Dead men tell no tales.</DIV> <DIV style=\”FONT: 10pt arial\”>
I am 43 years old and specifically remember the authorities looking for "John Doe #2" the morning of the Oklahoma City bombings. It was on all the television stations. And John Doe was Middle Eastern or Mediterranean looking, not Terry Nichols. The next day, nothing. Never heard about John Doe #2 again. Mr. Haskell must be hallucinating the way I was back then.
Too many "unexplained" phenomenon/
I vividly remember Flight 800. The witnesses all were discredited.
………and Tim McVeigh did act alone. (If you discount the well dressed middle eastern man that the original reports say was with him)…………..
Don't forget Janet Reno barbecuing those children with the Wacko at Waco…………..
TSA – Security – Airport screening – catching attempted airline bombers.
I offer this very simple solution. Bombs cannot be "made" on the aircraft without liquid accelerants. TSA needs to form two types of screening. One for passenengers without any carry on liquids and one for passengers with carry on liquids. Passengers with carry on liquids should be subject to a $10 TSA Screening Fee. Then, every single liquid should be taken out of the carry on and independantly verified it is acceptable. Make an exception for baby formula only. There is NO REASON to carry liquids on an aircraft when the bag can be checked. You cannot make a bomb with the liquids availalbe on an aircraft. SPend the TIME and RESOURCES looking for bbomb making material. Separate the "hay from the needle" by segregating passengers without ANY liquids or carry ons.
Nodrugs,
You are absolutely, 100% correct.
That was the very first eyewitness reports: of a well dressed middle eastern man seen with Tim McVeigh. It was buried and never heard from again. I was in Ft. Worth, when that story broke and everyone was glued to the TV, with live reports from OKC. It was a Government coverup.
What is it with all these Nigerians.
They live in the subtropics; in a friggen jungle, yet the dress in wool tossle caps with the nike emblem and wear down jackets. Is it just me, or does anyone else find this an anamoly?
I further think the photo is funny, he looks like Barracks brother George…………
And your thoughts on that, Cowboy Logic and Nodrugs?
His parents lived in London. Maybe the photo was taken there.
Forget the Dutch! What about the scumbags in the FBI—yes you heard me FBI- undereducated shooters with target scores higher than their IQ's!
"Law Enforcement" enables this lying swill. They are NOT your friends. Thank them if you wish. As for me, I curse them every day for what they've done.
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