For Tea Parties, Bigger Is Not Better
by SFC Steve McQueen (Ret.)After reading Warner Todd Huston’s article, Tea Parties: The Biggest Mistake We Could Make in 2010, I was incredulous. It seems misguided to suggest top down management in a time when big companies, big organizations, and big government have received bailouts after spending like drunken thieves or failing in the marketplace. Under what premise can anyone make the case that the solution to our nation’s dilemma is a big organization, especially a Big Tea Party? In all cases big leadership has resulted in big corruption, which is at the root of almost every issue before us.
Since the onset of ‘change we can all believe in’, politicians at all levels seem to constantly point to small businesses as our hope for economic recovery. In an era of “too big to fail,” it would seem obvious that people, regardless of party affiliation, could agree that bigger is not better. I haven’t heard anyone speak of the positive impact that CEO-led mega-banks, automakers, or the Fannies and Freddies will have on economic recovery.
The idea that the grassroots tea party movement should become a third political party is counter productive and borders on the ludicrous. Tea Parties are about government accountability, not joining partisan politics in the corruption and incompetence that threatens American liberty. Our City Councils, State Legislatures, and Congress work for us, and it is high time that we reminded them of this and brought them into the fold.
Tea Parties are made up of conservative, hardworking Americans that individually harness the power of the vote and collectively work together toward common goals. These core components of American culture and Tea Party weaponry are what will drive constitutionally grounded, conservative candidates to victory in the 2010 elections. It is these diehard patriots that will flock to the ballot boxes nationwide. They will support candidates who will have been made painfully aware that their job requires ethical behavior and responsibility. By the time the 2010 elections are upon us, all incumbents and candidates will be equally aware that substandard performance comes with consequences.
Samuel Adams said “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”
This is the Tea Party, a group of like-minded, freedom loving Americans that have at different times and under different names throughout American History risen to the call to protect liberty.
The Tea Party is governance by the people in its purest form and many opportunities will be presented between now and election day allowing Tea Parties to unite for a common goal without a CEO, Czar, or a General to call the shots. The Tea Party movement is a true reflection of American culture driven by values that have been taught for generations.
Mr. Huston and I agree on the power of the Tea Party. Our difference of opinion is in his underestimation of the collective Tea Parties’ ability to exercise strategic accuracy and to coordinate a precision strike when it counts. Don’t be fooled by the spin-doctors of the mainstream media, as the tea party strikes its opponents at will and with specificity.
I spend most of my evenings talking to Tea Parties from California to Pennsylvania and everywhere in between. You can rest assured political target acquisition for the 2010 elections is ongoing. Make no mistake, there will be an impact and the Tea Party message will be heard loud and clear.
Our energy should be devoted to delivering this message; not building another national organization or institution.
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America you not getting it when it comes to what the Boston Tea Party did and why they arent working today.
Tea Parties, protest tax revolts whatever you call them you can have them they ARE a waste! Look at how much has changed in one year alone, how are those protests working out for you America? The spending still continues, the passing of bills "we the people DO NOT WANT" continue to get passed.
Now calm down and listen as to why I said they are a waste. People need to understand the whole purpose of the original tea party; it wasn't a whining get together, a march with picket signs and people chanting silly slogans. It was an action, (covert at the time, they dressed as Indians!) that had legit high impact result at the time to make a statement, as tea was a commodity of actual value to the British. So the Bostonians dumped it in the bay which was their way at the time to say "screw you" we have a had it! (The Boston Tea Party of 1773 http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/teaparty.htm)
The tea parties of today which are because of Rick Santelli on CNBC who called for one in Chicago. BUT what everyone who was inspired by his comments organizing these tea parties missed and hasn't clicked in the minds of the masses that are now holding these modern day tea parties is Santelli said maybe they will throw "derivative securities" into Lake Michigan in July!
Throwing something of actual value into the bay, destroying something, an action of HIGH IMPACT to the times is what it takes to get peoples attention. So all you tea party organizers you just don't get it! Quite frankly its been a year of these and its still status quo, get out of denial THEY ARE NOT WORKING
You want to get the “machines” attention? Are you people really serious about this and ready to cross the line? Then its time for new tactics, you have been doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome. That is flat out insane.
Stop playing their game start playing your game… Saving the Republic
Agree that there need not be a "face" to lead the Tea Party. The effectiveness of the Tea Party is it's grass roots and purity. The last thing the movement needs is backroom dealings and power brokering that would almost surely compromise and probably even destroy it.
The Tea Party: the most ignored mass movement in American history. How do we change that?
stay localy organized. don't join a group with an office in washington or you will just be used. eventualy your represnatives will come back to your district and stop hiding from you.
take responasblity localy and personaly don't fall for a good lier like democrats love to vote for.
flappdoodle ,
I don't think they are as ignored as Hopey Changey want .
I am part of the movement I agree that we should focus our energyon purging the Republican Party of RINO's at this point. I was also never politically active until now: THANK YOU OBAMA!
http://spqr-us.blogspot.com/
They seem a lot more important when you are there or reading about them on rightwing sites or even the leftwing kook sites, but I think mostly the average citizen doesn't know what is going on.
Time for a "window war"?
VOTE?
I agree that for now we need to focus our energy on purging RINO's from the Republican Party. I am a Tea Party Member and I can feel that we are having an impact. I was never politically active before, THANK YOU OBAMA!
I am on my worthless and corrupt Congresswoman Anna Eshoo as well. She is like a Pelosi clone and I guess is only capable of sending form letters and ducking town halls: http://spqr-us.blogspot.com/
Good Point….VOTE!
Amen! I found it interesting to note an article from Politico stating the GOP is short of money for 2010. As a Tea Party member, I refuse to donate to the GOP. I send my hard earned money directly where I approve of it going. I have sent $ to Doug Hoffman, Bill Russell and Scott Brown (so far). As a resident of NJ, I am particularly interested in finding candidates to support since they are so lacking here at home. I would suspect that will be some of the real power of the Tea Party movement this year – getting the word out to people like myself regarding qualified candidates and rallying our support for them.
All this whining about nobody listening to the Tea Party. You say you love the Constitution, just hate free elections? We elected President Obama. He is our Tea Party. You lost. Get a life. We are listening. We know all about what you are saying. You don't like Democrats and you like conservative Republicans. We know all about what you want. But you lost in the election. Is there anything more American, more basic to the Constitution than elections. Did you forget that is how it works. Whatta want? The noisiest wins?
Is there something about the Constitution Tea Party folks don't understand? We don't have government based on what some people think we should have, we hold ELECTIONS! Just like the Founders said we should right there in the very basics of the Constitution. Stop saying nobody is listening. How do you think the 60 million of us who voted for President Obama feel? We are a Tea Party too. We did it the way it says in the Constitution. Get out and vote.
FYI: The original Tea Party was before we had elections. I was not a protest against an elected American Government. I was a protest against the King Of England, before we had the United States. Get a grip. We do this stuff with elections.
Check out this video I found on NPR's website, it is disgusting that taxpayer money was used to produce this.
Learn to speak TeaBag: —> http://bit.ly/8YLc4M
I guess you know it was President Bush and Cheney who started the $700 billion buy in bail out that got the Government into holding equity in banks. It was the GOP who initiated the bailout for auto maker GM. It was the GOP President who took us from surplus to a hole so deep it's an emergency. So where do you get this stuff about radical Democrats messing things up? Can you tell us what exactly this new President has done that has you so upset – or are you just repeating what you hear on TV? How about some facts, the name calling is the easy part.
How fitting that the first 'battle' for the American recovery is in Massachusetts? The home of the originalTea Party. Scott Brown, a conservative, running against the SEIU supported Martha Coakley for that pillar of liberalism Teddy "the lifeguard" Kennedy's, the endorser of Obama, proponent of amnesty for illegals, sponsor of health care "reform", vacant seat. Time is of the essence. We don't have to wait until November to reverse the calamitous direction of American government. Rally to Scott Browns camp and help defeat another liberal and take a deciding vote away from Dirty Harry.
Yes we do, in 2010.
I am looking for ideas on how to integrate TeaParties into the mainstream conservative movement, most probably working with the GOP. Perhaps you can leave ideas at my blog post on this issue:
http://luciusquinctius.blogspot.com/2009/12/will-...
That is precisly why you have the GOP listening…
Thank you for this article. I had the same reaction to Mr. Huston's article and I am relieved to see it expressed so eloquently. That we even have an America today to fight for is in no small part due to refusing to do things the way of the establishment.
Troll, read the post, it is not flattering to the GOP.
Full-scale anarchy—that's what we need—based on conservative principals.
"You lost. Get a life." Imagine if this was said in 2000, or 2004? Just because you won does not give the right to totally remake as if you won a 100%. The margin of victory was not really that big. You won so you get to set the direction, not how far we go in that direction. Attitudes such as yours causes wars, so please stop with the "We are the rulers, do what we say" attitude and grow up.
I guess YOU KNOW that democratic party took majority seats in 2006, right!? And BHO as a senator voted for TARP etc so its his baby now as Pres. Oh also in case you don't know yet Bush and Cheney are nolonger in public office; so as the problems of the US were their problem when they took office after Clinton, whatever happen during their term is now BHO, his admin and democrat dominant(since 2006) congress etc problem.
I couldn't agree more. I wish it was produced/distributed without any tax payer dollars involved.
Thank you for your response. I was somewhat taken back by Mr. Hutson's article. Earlier today I read that the Republican Party was in trouble because it lacked funding. I believe that the Tea Party Participants may be to blame. We are holding back our funding to the RNC and are sending donations to the Candidates directly. We as a group can make a huge difference. If we rely on the RNC to make our choices for us, we will get what we did with Scozzafava "a liberal democrat". We had put to much trust in the RNC, only to be let down. Researching candidates will take time, and I encourage those who want to make a difference to do just that. Spend the time to find the candidate that truly stands for your beliefs and support that candidate with your contributions and your time. Making a difference won't be easy, but it will be worth it.
The fact that there is no "face" to lead the Tea Party is exactly what is throwing the left off. Why do we need a "face?" We are a huge group of like-minded Americans working together to take back our country.
I also do not think we need a third party . It would definitely make things worse.
The GOP should align with the Tea Party. The old GOP got us Obama elected through it's Dem lite attitude. A good example of the old GOP trying to carry on is Gov. Crist of FL. I can only hope the true Tea Partisque Rubio wins the Repub primary.
This is precisely why the GOP should disband now, and let the TEA party folks rise up to the challenge.
The GOP has already shown that they have no interest in limiting their activities to the scope provided to them in the Constitution, and they are clearly not the party to lead the nation back to freedom and prosperity.
The Tea Party is a set of ideas. The ideas are basically drawn from the Founding Fathers and common sense derived from good ol' fashion hard work. I laugh/cringe when people think the Tea Party is a modern version of 3rd party, remaking of GOP, etc., etc…
HUH?
Don't be trapped into believing this party or that party is better. That's the real strength of the Tea Party is we're through with both parties. Since when does it take X numbers of dollars to win an election? Are we to be bought and sold according to who tells us the most lies? If yes, then fine, I quit and will simply not care. If we are not some cheap barter animals then I will continue caring. If in doubt I will keep caring as we owe it to those who have gotten us the freedom we have had in the past.
The Constitution does not allow the majority to do anything it wants, does it, Bill?
Two points: 1.) Election season is already months old. TeaPartiers need to mobilize now to affect the 2010 elections, and 2.) William F. Buckley's policy was that he would always support the most conservative electable candidate. He wisely recognized that idealogical purity has a place in elections, but in no means should be the only place in an election.
I think the Teaparty is the main stream Conservative movement, hopefully the GOP will come along, not the other way around.
NO third party is correct, just vote for and send money to the most Conservative Candidate.
You need to listen to this guy because he makes great points and he's really smart (isn't he?)
Don't bother doing any organizing or looking for leaders because they lie. Just wait by the phone and someone will let you know when it's time to rise up and take back America.
Here is the problem as I see it for you and the Republicans. You are going to do one of two things for the party. Either you are going to pout and stay home, or you are going to support neanderthals who have no chance in a general election. Now if you could just see ol mika now he's grinning from ear to ear at the prospect of you people hitting the streets and dusting things up. So let me encourage you to rock the vote in the primaries in 2010.
But there is really no up side for Republicans here. They have already got your vote it you get out in the general, and if you vote in the primary it's NY-23 all over again.
To hell with the GOP, do as a lot of us already have send your money to Brown. Here—> http://bit.ly/6FkIoM
I am of the opinion that the GOP is terribly threatened by the Tea Party movement, just not sure why. Is it b/c they can't control the movement? Who the movement supports? Our money?
It's more than understandable why the DNC is threatened but the GOP angle is a curious one.
Big Gov, this is the third post in two weeks I've read which attempts to define what the TP movement shoulda, woulda, coulda be all about. Your political agenda is rather obvious. Understand that we TPers value yours and anyone else's opinions on how the movement shouldawouldacoulda shape up, but you're going about it in such an odd way. Is it hubris? Fear? Lack of control? If not then what is it?
How right your are. At a recent event in Ocala FL, Marco Rubio spoke, and brought down the house. Shortly after, Governor Crist spoke, and he got a few boos, a few people walked out, and the overall response was tepid, at best. C'mon Mr. Steele, get with the program, or be left on the outside looking in. Your choice.
Mika. Mika, the Mikatrolla, I would tell you the truth but as you know I already have, and we both know.
You can't handle ti truth.
Flame on Mikatrolla, flame on…
LOL
2010 kick off of the Tea Party on April 15, 2010 rally. Be there or be square.
It's easy to ignore the lamestream media when you don't watch or read their crap.
Tea Party greatest strength is independance of either party….keep rolling on.
I find it ironic that the one thing that the Democrat faction and the Republican faction "both" agree on emphatically and without reservation, is that a third party would be bad, bad, bad! It's bi-partisanship at it's height. Both factions are terrified that "We, The People" have finally figured out that both factions of the DemoRepublicratcan party play off of each other to keep the power to themselves. And they should be terrified because "We, The People" HAVE figured it out and we are fed up with the back and forth yo-yo effect of the two factions. If one faction doesn't have us by the political throat, the other one does. In the past the faction out of power could count on getting power back when we got tired of the 'other' faction. They knew that "We, The People" only had one choice or the other. "Them"! That dual monopoly is threatened by the Tea Party movement. "We, The People" can not let the Republican faction 'usurp' the Tea Party movement any more than we can let the Democrat faction do it! Stay independent. That's where our strength lies! Who doesn't believe that?
I try to cover this point in a recent piece. The Tea Party movement will be best served by avoiding the huge set pieces and concentrating on changing things locally. Instead of just bleating about politicians many of them should step up and run for things, anything. This will serve two purposes. 1. To educate many of them who are naive about the actual political process 2. to give them experience on how politics functions and how to get people elected.
Haven't we heard about Obamacorn's and Seiu's involvement in this past election? How about those
contributions from outside the country. I guess if you're the left it's ok…the end justifies the means, such
a pity.
Cin, The GOP works for us. Our government also, but it seems to have forgotten that somewhere along the way. These Tea Parties are an actual manifestation of the Silent Majority who want their country back. We will put people into office who share our Conservative values, Republicans or Independents. The Democrats have shown that even with their so called Blue Dogs, that they will snap in line whenever their Marxist master call, ala Sen. Nelson. The RNC is a rudderless ship which still maintain their Moderate or RINO mentality. That is a policy which will continue to have the same result, failure. We must vote at the ballots and with our pocketbooks, those who can bring our country back.
I hate that term, but again, if you're the left anything is o.k.
A viable third party? The Conservative Party, I like it.
am i added to the no fly list and possible guantanamo detention if i view that website?
Vote!
Me too! If anything they are starting to really piss me off. Btw, love your DemoRepulicratcan Party! that pretty much says it all!
The tea parties could actually make a huge impact if there weren't so many hypocrites taking part in them. You can't scream about Obama's domestic spending while keeping silent with regard to how much money we're throwing away overseas. It comes off like you're saying, "Stop wasting our money here at home! We want to waste money on new wars!"
I believe Americans deep down believe in smaller government. But smaller government can only exist if we stop wasting loads of money domestically and abroad. The Founders understood the correlation between wars and the growth of government. The people in the tea parties should do the same.
The firs thing that I have to say to Mr. Holt is that the colonies did hold elections before the Boston Tea Party. The houses of Burgesses, city leaders, etc. What was not voted on was part of the problem. The colonists did not have representation in Parliment. Check your history…
Yes, Barack Obama won the election. He won the election by totally misrepresenting what he was going to do to this country and with the help of a lapdog media and corrupt election tactics across the country. There were five states were a little skullduggery on the part of the DNC and ACORN could have made all the difference and therefore the election. Did Obama run on taking over the banking industry, the car industry, the insurance industry? No, he did not. Did he promise to bow down to every little dictator in the world?
Obama promised to close Gitmo, he hasn't
Obama promised to get the troops out of Iraq, he hasn't
Obama promised to create 3 million jobs, he hasn't
Obama promised to make the world love the US, he hasn't
Obama promised that he was not Bush, of course Bush was running so what was the point?
Obama promised transparency, he lied
Obama promised no lobbyist, he lied
Obama promised no ear marks, he lied
Obama promised fiscal restraint, he… almost choked on this one… lied!!!
If you are an honest man ask yourself if Obama would have been elected if he had campaigned honestly?
Gary,
We must get behind the candidates not the party. The parties will always be the parties, but the tea party will carrt the right candidates over the top.
That's a hard paradigm shift for a lot of the conservatives on this site. I couldn't agree more. But it takes people educating themselves rather than listening to Hannity and getting all fired up about the latest scare tactic from the right.
People also have a hard time questioning the U.S. Government when it involves military, as if it's unpatriotic. Again, it's a hard shift for a lot of conservatives.
It's like trying to tell a liberal welfare hurts poverty more than it helps.
I'm waiting for the election this year if the change isn't significant, Then will be time to up the ante.
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ten four. And you can already hear the republicans talk as if they have a lock on the tea party movement and are guaranteed seats in 2010.
They have already been counting their chickens before the eggs hatch. It's sickening. They offer no change without people like Doug Hoffman, anything but another career politician. But the way the game is rigged, it's hard to overcome and both parties do everything they can to stop independents.
You missed my point entirely, Steve. I was not suggesting in any way that the Tea Parties be "managed from the top down." I was saying we would be making a mistake not to have someone USE the energy that the Tea Parties are generating. I did not once suggest that this leader take over the Tea Parties themselves. I narrowed my focus to the utilizing the energy they generate.
Thank you very much. It is obvious to those who can see, what both factions are all about. Feel free to use that monicker whenever you like. It IS what both factions are. Different aspects of the same party.
The military works for the bureaucrats in Washington. The folks who serve are sent overseas by people who sit on their asses all day thinking up new ways to play with all the fancy toys.
That's why I don't get it when conservatives link criticism of foreign policy with criticism of the military. Foreign policy is dictated by the people who run the government, not the men and women dying on the other side of the world. Criticism of foreign policy is criticism of the government. Period.
"Fear is the foundation of most governments." – John Adams
You have an excellent grasp of the situation. Remain steadfast and encourage others to do the same. We must persevere for the country's sake.
Truth
Register unaffiliated and the parties will submit. This is not rocket science this pure capitalism. Take the consumers(voter registration) away and business(party) will change it’s practice or die.
I haven’t forgotten they rigged the electoral process this is just step one. A step they can’t defeat unless you don't take it and support their corruption. .
Here we are in 2010, let the purges begin. If you’re in the political business, don’t make long term plans. The Tea Parties are a wonderful start, ignore it at your peril.
The video was funny but it only works for people as stupid as the type of people it's making fun of in the video.
It's right up there with the election commercials from both sides that are effin ridiculous yet sway many people.
One step at a time marty
Mr McQueen,
I would go further and am surprised that as a military man you didn't draw the tactical parallel. The reason the Tea Partiers are so effective is the lack of centralization, and the refusal to stand up as a big line of redcoats to be peppered by well funded political parties.
Without leaders, without a true party, there is no way that democrats or republicans can attack Tea Partiers politically.
The GOP is basically being held hostage right now, neutered because donors are holding their dollars. They can't fight without the money, and they can't jump either big-tent or core because they have the dems to fight. They look weak, limp in ideology. They can't even make friends with Tea Partiers at the moment. They aren't welcome in their bed yet.
The dems in the meantime are being made to state their poison of choice. Every time they attack Tea Partiers, who are basically no more than the politically disinfranchised, they attack the American People, not a political party.
The Tea Partiers need to be faceless so that they remain identifiable as the American People themselves.
Your wording is interesting, Mr Huston. "I was saying 'we' would be making a mistake…." "…utilizing the energy 'they' generate." I know nothing about your political affiliations or if you have any, but your use of "we" and "they" gives the impression of a Republican trying to figure out how to turn this momentum to their advantage. Whether the leader you suggest would "take over" or simply be the face of the movement is really a distinction that makes little difference to Mr. McQueen's point, IMO. The face should be the people.
My hero is George..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington%27...
http://www.forbes.com/global/2006/0508/014.html
Once a nation followed George to freedom.. It is time to follow him to freedom again.. Walk away from your party.. For it is a thief, a king that weakens your heart and blocks your way to freedom..
That lost feeling in your heart is George Washington calling you to action. Read his farewell address and his warning about political parties.
Put country before party and register unaffiliated
With all due respect Mr. Hutson, I do not share your pessimism, there is still time for for leadership to emerge, and money will not be problem, Sara Palin aint chopped liver. I think there is enough concern and desire for 'real hope and change' that a grassroots organization will continue to emerge. There will be plenty of help from powerful people in this country who are dissapointed in the GOP.
I disagree. The D.C. protest on 9/12 postponed the healthcare vote. Tea party patriots are writing, calling, faxing, emailing, and visiting their congressman. We are making a difference but Washington is too vain and power hungry to pay more attention. The way we fight is 2010 election day. EACH CONGRESSMAN got over a million pink slips. Many are scared. Republicans are also now flexing their backbone because they know the American people want accountability and the Constitution. We have made a difference.
Gentelmen I wish I shared your faith in the GOP…
We grow in numbers and show up to the next big D.C. protest on August 28.
CodeThePlumber:
You nailed it! Keep up the pressure and keep all your friends/relatives/contacts energized! We start taking back our country in 2010.
Johnny Crockett.
Also, the Tea Parties forced the so-called Republican out of the campaign. Hoffman would have won if he was in the election longer.
We agree on 98% of your post and I might add it was very well written. The excerpt below is where we part ways on the subject. The ballot box in 2010 and 2012 is the finish line and I know that the Tea Parties will be the driving force at election time. We don't need to run our own candidates, we just have to effectively supervise and mentor the ones we have. Our doctrine is the Constitition and that drives us in the way that we should go.
BTW.. that photo is a photo of the Quincy Tea Party in Quincy, Illinois.
"There was no unifying single goal of the Tea Partiers and no agency or party directing them. This means that the raw power behind them just might go untapped because there will be no way to translate the passion to power. Every transformative movement has been led by a single man and his small group of powerful adherents but the Tea Party movement has no such leader and might just find that its passion will dissipate until there is nothing left but disgruntled followers."
You are very wise and tactically proficient. I missed a valid point there.
Steve
Way too many think the '10 election is a sure win. ACORN SEIU backers like Soros etc etc are still operational. Look at the actions of politicians they continue like a locomotive full ahead without a second thought on their actions which are clearly political suicide at this point.
WHY
What is it they know that we dont? Are they out of touch, yes some are but they are well aware of what is going on, yet continue regardless of the fact they have people screaming, at times in their face, to STOP. This doesnt make sense something is definitely wrong.
I posted about this before on another thread "The zombies are the problem at election time. They don't read or watch the news. They have the "someone else will take care of it" oh "that won't happen here" mentality. This is the biggest problem and more than likely is how BHO got elected. They only see a fraction of a story. Last election cycle all they heard was about how evil Bush(no I didnt like him then) is and b/c he is so are the repubs (which I dont disagree with, they are all bad and all need to go). But thats all they heard and saw the country going down the tubes and it became hate, that hate spread like a virus to the uninformed and elected BHO as well as other dems into power. Lets not forget about some of the dirtbag Repubs that got re-elected too! …. the zombie sheep dont see it till a month or 2 before an election. … "
The site demands peaceful action
The most Conservative Candidate who walks the walk. Words mean nothing. We need to look at their records and make sure that words match their deeds.
Exactly!
The argument of, "We're 10% less oppressive than Democrats", is NO LONGER VALID…
Scozzafava taught us this, Republican National Committee…we hope you learned it as well…otherwise, no dice…
Sorry to say the most on the left think that a mobocracy is what we are, the nation of laws vs. mob rule just kind of escapes them.
You are right, they are not listening to us, but they do know how we feel. No, we are not going to break the law, it's never been part of our movement. The goal has always been to vote these clowns out of office and try to stop as much of the Obama socialist agenda as possible, and since the movement started, more and more corruption is being revealed every day. We have the "machine's" attention which is why they are rushing all this garbage through.
The Left is fighting the invisible man and as you can imagine they are losing. All they can do now is create as much havoc as possible between now an the elections.
That is exactly what we need to do. Be willing to contribute time and money across state lines for close races as well as concentrate on our local candidates. I have not contributed to the GOP in many years, but I will send money to candidates.
I think the GOP is all about control, the NY 23 thing kind pointed that out, but it was a good lesson for them, spit in our faces and you will control nothing, too bad they have no learned.
Don't agree with your BG comment though, I think they are putting out the different factions to try and start a debate, I dont see anything underhanded here at all.
There is no target, except in generalities…statists must demonize all Americans in general, rather than an individual or small group. They can't go through MILLIONS of people's garbage cans looking for dirt to throw…
The TEA party (sic) works, and works well, because it can't be boxed or graded, or pigeonholed…It is an idea, a tool, and a very dangerous weapon…and one the statists are ignoring at their peril…for 2010 is here, and those that have bound and shackled the American people WILL be held to account for their treachery…
The march on Washington was incomplete. The people should have grabbed the liars and scum and strung them up right then and there.
Just my opinion.
We know were on the right track when both "Parties" are talking
Tea Party Patriot
Semper Fi
I disagree…
The TEA movement appeals to EVERY constitutionalist citizen in a visceral way…they feel the movement in their bones, like animals before a storm, or earthquake…they KNOW intuitively what is occurring is sympathetic to the American psyche…and they will bind to it innately…as they are binding to it now…
mikatollah,
Stay with that…
The role of the tea parties as the IG ( Inspector General ) in regards to candidate selection is a natural fit, but if I talk to 5 different tea party advocates (self included) I get 5 different answers (with some overlap) as to what that means. That’s a bit disturbing to me.
So while local problems require local solutions but I am not at all convinced that the tea party movement has any kind of unified voice as to how to solve federal problems, stating the issues seems to be a strength but to date I have not heard much in the way of unified messaging on how to solve them.
Snip "…harness the power of the vote and collectively work together toward common goals"
After reading the authors piece I am a little confused as to how one "collectively works together" without organizing at a higher level, the organization need not have any authority other than common consent of the participants but how does one achieve "common goals" if those goals are not debated, understood and accepted by the majority of the participants?
If the author agrees with this then how does this occur without at least a clearing house for ideas and debate outside of a localized venue? (and who is to say that the point of contact is authoritive or trustworthy for the so called local views?)
I also did not have the take on Mr. Huston's article that this author had, I read his plea for organization much more along the lines of a directional and messaging clearing house, getting everyone on the same page etc. rather than a monolithic organization.
Steve:__I look to your last paragraph about how you spend your evenings! GREAT! However, I have no Idea where to find this 'target rich environment' might be! You are not a leader of ME! I got about $500 to invest in the 'conservative movement'. I have no idea who you are, but trust you are a hard working, worker ant, who can write. __What weT DO need is a coordinator, Aka LEADER! Someone this Tea Party multi-organized choir can trust to inform us. My choice would be Andrew who i REALLY trust. Glenn or Sarah might also be candidates! I can SEE THEM not only 'read' them! HELL let Marxists attack Sarah or Glenn that is the ONLY way conservative news reaches the MSM! Give them a BIG TARGET!
You have elicited many responses! None are as consistent as ACORN, they were at least organized or guided into a cohesive force. We are all out here!
So I am still only 1 VOTE, with only $500 to spend. Should I spend it in Mass as some have suggested? there is it best spent on conservativ issues Perhaps I need to be a candidate in a jerrymandered district which has had only an un opposed Democrat in the past 2 elections! I've really not heard from anyone about my district?
Link Here? <Leadership of conservative passion>
Exactly why I support the TEA movement in remaining neutral and shapeless…goes all the way back to Sun Tzu…
We of the Movement MUST force the new paradigm…that the true Conservative candidate has to plead their case and their record to the people directly, and also suffer or exult the people's decision over them and their worthiness…
I think what the tea party movement should do is fight fire with fire. Register as a democrat and vote in thier primary in states with closed elections. then re register as a republican and vote out the incumbant in the GOP. You can't play by the rules or with honesty when you are dealing with the likes of acorn and other terrorist arms of the democratic party.
Saying someone is the lesser of two evils, simply tells the politicians that they can be worse and still get elected.
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Can you tell me how many of "We the people" exist in the 4 th district in GA? Versus Democrats in the last election? Until WE figure that out, we won't know the odds of changing the status quo in the 4 th district GA. I am trying to figure out how, as a conservative, to talk Cynthia McKinney into running as a Communist to split the democratic vote! Then I know we would win as "We the People" in the 4 th district! Ain't idealism wonderful! What argument do I use in a district with 30% of voters on food stamps to give me thier vote for me to get them off food stamps? Fortunately they can't buy lottery tickets on food stamps!
Ironic yes, but it is Always a deal! That IS politics!
Small quible. What they threw in the bay had value, but cost the people who threw it in the bay nothing, because the tea belonged to someone else.
Republicans will only flex their backbone while they see an opportunity for power, not to represent the american people, help accountability nor the constitution. They spent 8 years living off big government and the erosion of our freedoms – maybe 2010 could change them into a party that want to represent the people, not control them….
…in both the republican and democratic parties.
Ladies and Gentlemen:
The TEA Movement is the leading edge of something not seen in this country in a long time…
Politicians are finding themselves in the most uncomfortable position of having to sit down and LISTEN to constituents in general, not just groups they have sympathy with…because EVERYONE now might be a TEA Movement supporter, and if they don't meet the grade, they are OUT…the TEA is not buyable or susceptible to influence peddling, indeed, it serves as a rally point against the candidate (Ben Nelson).
All the little groups a statist has to string together for support cannot beat the political muscle that can mobilize behind a conservative candidate who takes satisfaction in their constitutional roots…
The statists in power now have made their choices, as well as those who vacillated from conservatism due to influence peddling…2010 is here…
I strongly caution against dishonesty in the Tea Party movement. Nearly ALL of us who support the Tea Party movement, do so 'because' of the dishonesty in the two faction DemoRepublicratcan party. One can not oppose dishonesty WITH dishonesty. I, for one, would abandon any loyalty to any party or movement that proposed dishonesty as a tool to promote their agenda. That is precisely why I no longer support the Republican faction. That, also, is why I abandoned the Democrat faction, "lo all those decades ago"! One does not defeat an enemy by becoming the enemy that they oppose. They only strengthen their enemy, by becoming 'them' Who doesn't believe that?
CodeThePlumber I was attempting to make the same point earlier, although you said it better, hats of to you sir. There is far too much concern for the wefare of this country which most of us here are well aware is on the precipice of disaster, both financially and constitutionally
The GOP has let conservatives and the country down every time it has been given power. It's time for a new party, no matter how difficult and unlikely it might be.
I wonder if they all used the Jedi hand wave when they said that?
"That was a different Bertha Lewis." (Wave hand across left to right…)
Darnit. This was supposed to be a response to the shill below, BMartin.
Black Bloc tactics: Break out a bunch of windows. They can get away with it, we could not.
The 4th district is Hank Johnson's bailiwick. He ran against no challenger in his last election. He did not run unopposed however. I wrote in my own name on the ballot. So to answer your question of how many of "We, The People" exist in the 4th district of GA. There is one that I am sure of. Two, if you are truly opposed to the status quo, as am I. The other question you pose is a non starter because there is no answer. I don't try to persuade those who will not be persuaded. I only try to persuade those who are open to persuasion. Do remember that "We, The People" in Ga. forced Saxby Chambliss in to a run off election in his last election, though. HE got the message. Every journey IS started with the first step. Also Remember that there are former Democrats in the Tea Party movement as well. It's not "just" conservatives. The Tea Party movement is comprised of Americans who love America MORE than they love any political faction!
I agree. The left and the media want a target to attack. We should not give them one.
(Remember: Bush gave over a dozen reasons for tossing the cease fire and resuming the Iraq war. He lost the narrative when he allowed the news media to isolate WMDs as "the reason".)
Oh, you mean like the protestors spitting on the troops coming back from Nam?
Do you REALLY think the Dems and the GOP are going to let you vote them out? After ACORN? After Philadelphia? Yeah, right!
I agree – we do not need a figure-head as this is a grassroots organization that has power through the people not the party. Some see no reason to vote for either party, and would want another party to represent them. If you don't want a third party, then support a candidate that most matches your political compass – no matter the name or principles of that party. Too many candidates change once voted it…
Bill, I'm like a jet engine with a four-stage afterburner. I can cruise around all day at 80 percent and when I get in trouble light both cans and leave the bad guys scratching their heads. It's what I do.
The Tea Party movement certainly appeals to me. I'm not arguing with Tea Party values or intentions. But I'm not being told that Tea Partiers are killing kittens out there. People who don't pay much attention get lies about who we are and what we're doing–if indeed they hear anything about us. Over the weekend, I caught a couple of those "year in review" programs. There was no mention of Tea Parties on any of the ones I saw. They did devote several adoring minutes to that pedophile Michael Jackson and that so-and-so Ted Kennedy.
I think whenever we have a Tea Party it needs to be in the parking lot of the mainstream media so they will have to cover what's going on. That's all.
I've BEEN voting.
Remember Ross Perot and Bill Clinton. Twice.
You got that right. Sent $$ to the same 3 candidates as you and $0.02 the the RNC. Stay strong.
Thanks.
I agree with you.
I do fear it may come to that.
but I think mostly the average citizen doesn't know what is going on.
Come on they know Tiger had 15 different women.
You know there is one.
In spite of and because of the depredations of both factions of the DemoRepublicratcan party, we must continue to stand on our principles and not succumb to attempts to instill fear and hopelessness in us. To do so would only embolden our tormentors. Whether the Democrat faction and Republican faction will LET us vote them out is a moot point. It isn't up to them. It's up to us, "We, The People"! They can't STOP us! They will try. No doubt! But they could only succeed if "We, The People" LET them. Our's is still a government "of the people, by the people, for the people"! The entrenched potentates who have control now would have us believe otherwise! if we don't prove to them that we know better in the coming elections, we will have proven them right and ourselves ineffectual. We would forever be a subjugated people! It's up to us. Not them. Who doesn't believe that?
Does anyone agree, that we should make elections public? Would it not be a good idea to take back elections from corporate and special interest groups? Why not give each qualified candidate the same amount of money to spend, and make any money from corporate or special interest groups illegal, maybe we can call it bribery!!
The Tea Party should become the biggest deposit of information on politics that it can. Record all senator's voting habits, contributors and election promises. This will inform the american people about the candidates they choose to represent them. Only through that information can we get our voices heard. No lobbying, no political speeches, just honest debate and representation.
Good to hear it – tell everyone you know about this and we shall see a sea-change in the way this country is being run…
Don't tell anyone, but I see through you like a pane of glass buddy. mYou are a light wieght, you kow it and I know it. As a matter of fact you no longer amuse me. Don't worry, put your kids welfare and your faith in Mr. Hope and Change. And then cruise aroud the air with your baloon running out of air.
But you clearly now, I can see you are just a little troll, like everyone says…..
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From what I see the Republican party still dosen't GET IT. I will also put my $ and support where I think it needs to go and that isn't the RNC.
WHERE IS THE GOP IN THE MASS. RACE? COME ON .. GIVE THE MAN SOME MONEY …. THE FIRE IS HOT !!!!
I agree with you, BMartin. The current path of the Tea Parties, while I'm glad to see it, will not be effective. Those in power simply don't care. They know that in the end the Tea Party enthusiasts will accept whatever is done, no matter how unhappy they may be about it. We don't scare them. ____Most Tea Partiers are not of the mindset for civil disobedience and other more active resistence. It is their nature. As a former '60s radical, who participated in many civil actions, I can also assure you that the vast majority of Tea Partiers/conservatives do not understand the enemy they are facing. ____'People who trade freedom for security will get neither'. 'Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.' They weren't kidding. ____To get a picture of just who is running the government now, check out these links. You will know the speakers. If you listen to 5 minutes, you will be glued for the entire discussion.____1. http://blip.tv/file/2897214/ ____2. http://blip.tv/file/2897587/ ______
Mr Troll, We're upset because the Marxist Democrat Party has used procredural policy and the cover of darkness to pass laws. They have lied and cheated to get their legislation through without the American people being able to even read it. The polls clearly show that the American people refuse to have our country turn Socialist. We believe in American Exceptionalism and that this country can recover without big government being forced down our throats. 2010 and 2012 will be remembered as the years in which America was freed from an internal power grab by the Marxist Democrat Party.
The Teabagger Socialist-Free Purity Pledge Part 1
I, ________________________, do solemnly swear to uphold the principles of a socialism-free society and heretofore pledge my word that I shall strictly adhere to the following:
I will complain about the destruction of 1st Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 1st Amendment Rights.
I will complain about the destruction of my 2nd Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights by legally but brazenly brandishing unconcealed firearms in public.
I will foreswear the time-honored principles of fairness, decency, and respect by screaming unintelligible platitudes regarding tyranny, Nazi-ism, and socialism at public town halls. Also.
I pledge to eliminate all government intervention in my life. I will abstain from the use of and participation in any socialist goods and services including but not limited to the following:
Social Security
Medicare/Medicaid
State Children’s Health Insurance Programs (SCHIP)
The Teabagger Socialist-Free Purity Pledge Part 1
I, ________________________, do solemnly swear to uphold the principles of a socialism-free society and heretofore pledge my word that I shall strictly adhere to the following:
I will complain about the destruction of 1st Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 1st Amendment Rights.
I will complain about the destruction of my 2nd Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights by legally but brazenly brandishing unconcealed firearms in public.
I will foreswear the time-honored principles of fairness, decency, and respect by screaming unintelligible platitudes regarding tyranny, Nazi-ism, and socialism at public town halls. Also.
The Teabagger Socialist-Free Purity Pledge Part 1__ I, ________________________, do solemnly swear to uphold the principles of a socialism-free society and heretofore pledge my word that I shall strictly adhere to the following:__I will complain about the destruction of 1st Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 1st Amendment Rights.__I will complain about the destruction of my 2nd Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights by legally but brazenly brandishing unconcealed firearms in public.__I will foreswear the time-honored principles of fairness, decency, and respect by screaming unintelligible platitudes regarding tyranny, Nazi-ism, and socialism at public town halls. Also.__
The noisiest wins? yes in 2008
Stop taking 17% of my income for them and I will gladly abstain from the use of and participation in those listed and any other. Twits like you can't even comprehend there are those of us out here who see social security as an abysmal failure and would love to phase it out.
By sticking to our game plan and making sure they are real conservatives
Correct, but WHY is the question that must be asked as I just posted 2 response above this.
Folks sit back for a minute clear your head of either position and look at it for what it is, and let me say it again
What they are doing is political suicide, they know it yet continue on…. WHY?????? What do they know we don't? Why would anyone put their career on the line like this? What is waiting at the end of this road they are on that they ignore the people!?
WE of TEA are NOT POUTERS!!! WE ROCK and grass roots from Sea to Shining Sea!!!! The Price of Freedom is not Free and we are not going to see these folks take us down the road to what dictators do! Educate and VOTE right!!! Numbers upon numbers are tired of sitting around the coffee shops complaining and are getting out there and getting engaged and educated! Early Voting begins this next week in many areas. Feb 2 across the Land! Vote smart – Vote Right – Vote for those who will stand for the CONSTITUTION and the right way on issues!!! God Bless us all……. we need it!
The PRICE of FREEDOM does not come free! For the most part WE of the USA can be very – very thankful that we have had no 'big hits'!!!! Don't you remember what YOU were doing on 911? I commend my Military Men and Women! Speaking of all that — Do ALL you can to stop these Gitmo terrorists from coming to USA grounds! Not in NYC for trials and NOT IN Illinois or any place in USA! Great Security? – not- guests get into DC white house un-invited through security. Christmas Day it was CITIZENS that stopped a tragic attack and not the security of security lists! Oceans and sharks can protect us rather than man-made security at Thomson prison.
A president that has spent / made and borrowed more money in 11 months than ALL Presidents since George Washington combined! Come on now……….. stop the pork AND KNOW what they are signing by reading! Health care another story and cap and tax another……….. no to both! Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax …………………………………unending!
I have no secret agenda, so it should be easy to see what I want for my country. It is directly opposite from your goals so I can understand why you get frustrated. But I don't think it is me you are angry with. You say the same thing in every post and still you get no closer to understanding what has happened to you. You are marginalized in a political system that you can't possibly understand.
Peaceful? Ever heard of the American Revolution? I hear more and more talk…..
You go girl…
How to eat an elephant (and donkey) ? One bite at a time.
There are more ways to "protest" than protesting.
It's all BOHICA
Attended several tea parties and including the one in Washington DC on 9/12 and I assure you that the strength of the American people is found in the multiple organizations that participate and support the TEA party movement.
God bless and keep America strong.
try this FACT -the president of the United States of America is, at BEST, a communist sympathizer. nothing more needs to be said.
we made a huge difference that day- the proof is all the jokes and mockery that was the result of 9-12-09. hold the line.
that there is no mention of the tea parties is the proof we are making a difference-fear usually responds by pretending something does not exist(the monster under the bed) or it is made fun of -but only when in a safe environment -like olberman in his studio surrounded by friendlies.he would not dare to speak at a tea party, while a patriot would jump at the chance to appear on his show with the facts. we had a national call out to the media a few months ago -here in Florida the media targeted responded with trite statements on the inside pages-just as we would expect.
an election was won based on the nominee hiding his true agenda. can you say the tactics used by the house and senate to pass the last couple of bills were tactics the average American would consider honorable?
I disagree. Many Tea Party patriots are outraged and are waiting for the outcome of the healthcare bill. We will not sit by and let the government change.
I also send my money to Conservative candidates such as Michelle Bachman, Col Allen West (Florida), and Michael Williams to replace Kay Bailey Hutchinson – she is not a true Conservative.
If Obama stated is true agenda than he wouldn't have won, and if McCain won we would not have woken up to the corruption in D.C. this quickly and things would still be bad. Neither candidate was a conservative.
Obama said illegal aliens weren't covered in healthcare bill, he lied
Obama promised no tax hikes in the middle class, he lied (happens if healthcare passes)
Obama said he didn't really know Bill Ayers, he lied (been to the whitehouse several times)
Obama said he would defend the Constitution, he lied
Obama promised to spread the wealth by taking money from hard working Americans and giving it to others, he told the truth. Karl Marx would be proud.
The government is currently trying to take away the 1st and 2nd amendment. They are making laws so there can be no more protests on the National Mall – Lincoln Memorial, which is one reason for the August 28 protest. They tried to pass net neutrality so the government can take over the internet just in case there is an "emergency." They are trying to bailout newspapers so they can control the news (not like they don't already). On the 2nd amendment, guns will be considered a health hazard and therefore will be regulated through the healthcare bill. Know the truth and learn history and all will be revealed.
I too went to the march on Washington, and it amazes me how many millions have waken up since that event.
The attacks against the Tea Party movement are escalating. Those ridiculing and belittling Tea Party Advocates is a very good example. They most assuredly are members of one or the other faction of the DemoRepublicratcan party making feeble attempts to dishearten us. It is proof positive that they are past concerned about the independent movement to unseat them from power and are willing to go to any lengths to dissuade us from continuing. If they can stop us from talking to and encouraging each other, they win and "We, The People" lose. That's what they want most)! They, (both factions, Democrat and Republican, combined), are beginning to realize that the Tea Party advocates outnumber them, If the movement was not a serious threat to them, why would they feel the irresistible need to make the attempt to discourage us in the first place? Remember that it's not sticks and stones that the DemoRepublicratcans fear! it's words that they fear most. And VOTES, (which they thrive on), that they won't get because of those words! Who doesn't believe that?
That is a great slogan for a movement. (serious)
"Hold the line!"
When they started calling us terrorists and racists is what pushed me to march on 9/12. They don't understand that name calling adds fuel to the fire.
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Indeed they don't. And you might notice that many of the name callers wait until a thread has about run it's course before they put their two cents worth in. (When they think we are no longer watching)! They do it that way because they don't have the courage to take the heat for what they say! It's ever the cowards way, to show their courage on the battlefield after their opponents have left the field. (A joke; Liberals and Conservatives had a contest of words. The conservatives noticed the Liberals cheating and left the contest after the first round. Three rounds later the Liberals finally scored a point)!
Your avatar is intriguing!
Thanks. I improved pelosi's picture in photoshop to show her true colors.
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Well said…
WHY? IT WORKED FOR THE DEMOCRATS!
Smokin? Can you PLEASE post the link to that political cartoon????? I have looked for it but have not found it yet. It shows the FIRST time they tried this same type of "recovery" so VERY well!
The time for action is NOW…. it was the last 4 months, not AFTER the biggest expansion of government in history is accomplished, which will be nearly impossible to repeal. The folks have not been able to believe how bad these guys are… they are late on the realization curve. You have sat by and government is changing.
I've been to Washington, sent emails and pinkslips, given money to true conservatives, and spread the news of what is going on. What do you specifically suggest we do?
BMartin1776,
They are ignoring us and committing political suicide because they have an agenda and they're time is running out. This tea party movement was never supposed to have happened. Health care was going to be a done deal last August, and it looks like Cap & Trade is totally dead. These people are all corrupt and have become millionaires with the taxpayer's money. Politics as usual is no longer acceptable, and you need to stop thinking the old way. Money is now going to candidates across state lines, not political parties. The GOP is figuring out that we are using the Republican party instead of the party using us. We don't want the RINOS any longer. We are doing more than standing on corners with signs and we are growing larger every day. Only time will tell, but I am enjoying listening to the same people who demonized and ignored us now giving us advice.
why? what is waiting?a "crisis", an "emergency" then the suspension of the constitution. the tea party folks have done more than slow down the agenda – they have taught us all to pay attention,to think about things no American should have to consider.we have learned how to communicate with each other.(you have set up commo with your group,right?) if martial law happens communication will be the most important weapon we have.
I agree about the Zombies. There is hope that more and more people are waking up. There is probably going to be a revolt if the healthcare bill passes. We are patiently waiting for the elections but if they keep ignoring us, we will have to step it up. What do you suggest?
Hold the line.
Here here!!! With California being the largest conglomerate of activists and organizers in the country, we have two board members, out of the 11 National, that are our defacto leaders. What these leaders have provided for the 173 organizers (who each have anywhere from hundreds to thousands of members within their city/county) is communication from the National Organization, details of legislation and coordinated action, and, in California, we have partnered on a initiative that will, with our help, appear on the 2010 ballot and make a significant change in candidate fundraising and donations. The genesis of the Tea Party movement was Rick Santelli's rant. He inspired people to get off of their couch and take part in the electoral and legislative process. He inspired a movement that allowed many hard working americans, who had only showed up at the polls in the past, to start showing up at city council meetings, school board meetings, PTA meetings, and townhalls. More people, now more than ever, are paying close attention to politics and are engaged in the process. The fact that Harry Reid used bribery and back-door deals in the latest bill (that again wasn't read and jammed down the throats of the American People) did not go unnoticed. The power of the Tea Party movement will be seen at the polls in 2010—when the incumbents that have abused the political process, on both sides of the aisle, will fall victim to the leaderless, tea party movement–and we will have unseated those, not by outspending them, but by casting our vote. November 2010 will play out like a Mastercard commercial, whereby the end, we will all be saying, "Priceless."
Indubitably. Well done. I applaud your efforts.
Marsha Blackburn Voted FOR:
Omnibus Appropriations, Special Education, Global AIDS Initiative, Job Training, Unemployment Benefits, Labor-HHS-Education Appropriations, Agriculture Appropriations, U.S.-Singapore Trade, U.S.-Chile Trade, Supplemental Spending for Iraq & Afghanistan, Prescription Drug Benefit, Child Nutrition Programs, Surface Transportation, Job Training and Worker Services, Agriculture Appropriations, Foreign Aid, Vocational/Technical Training, Supplemental Appropriations, UN “Reforms.” Patriot Act Reauthorization, CAFTA, Katrina Hurricane-relief Appropriations, Head Start Funding, Line-item Rescission, Oman Trade Agreement, Military Tribunals, Electronic Surveillance, Head Start Funding, COPS Funding, Funding the REAL ID Act (National ID), Foreign Intelligence Surveillance, Thought Crimes “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Peru Free Trade Agreement, Economic Stimulus, Farm Bill (Veto Override), Warrantless Searches, Employee Verification Program, Body Imaging Screening.
Marsha Blackburn Voted AGAINST:
Ban on UN Contributions, eliminate Millennium Challenge Account, WTO Withdrawal, UN Dues Decrease, Defunding the NAIS, Iran Military Operations defunding Iraq Troop Withdrawal, congress authorization of Iran Military Operations.
Marsha Blackburn is my Congressman.
See her unconstitutional votes at :
http://tinyurl.com/qhayna
Mickey
We need to be as alarmed about this as we were after Pearl Harbor… after 9/11. We need to act as if the subjugation of our country, and our subsequent enslavement, is imminent, because it is.
We need to fill the streets until something happens. Brave souls among us must be disruptive. I'm not advocating violence (at this point), but we need to put fear in our 'leaders'. We need to use some of the same tactics as the left does, and fight as hard as they do. We need to replace the republican leadership with conservatives. This is for survival. I don't think most people have come to realize that yet. Until you are willing to stand up, prepared to stop them, they will proceed with their agenda without a care for what you think. And at some point you will be unable to break out of the controls that they put on every aspect of your life. We in a death spiral, and most of us don't even understand how far down the road we are.
While I sincerely applaud your efforts, and believe you are very committed, I think those actions will be insufficient to preserve the country as we know it. Of course we must work for the 2010 elections and beyond, but until we let the leaders (of both parties) know that we will not tolerate the continuation of the ruin of the country, the elections will be insufficient. We must let them know that we are capable of dramatic action if we must do so to protect our country and our children. Again, 'Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.' The Declaration of Independence says it well, and it's not just some mouldy document…. those people understood reality as few today do. We have been spoiled.
These are Marxists we are fighting, make no mistake. I have a deep background in this and I know who these people are. Talking to them is equivalent to talking Iran out of nukes or talking the Korean tyranny to implement human rights. It will NEVER work. There is no compromise, only winning and loosing. If you think I am extreme in this, that's okay, but I have certain knowledge that if you live long enough, you will realize the truth of what I'm saying.
Again, if you have not seen the Horowitz/Caddell videos, I strongly urge you to watch at least the first 10 minutes… after that you will glued until the end.
1. http://blip.tv/file/2897214/
2. http://blip.tv/file/2897587/
If we of the Tea Party determine to send our hard earned money directly where we approve of it going–why do we pay income taxes?
I think it dates to the civil war. the tea parties ARE a movement- go to youtube, put starznbarzphoto into the search box, click on 9-12-09 d.c. turn up your speakers.
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IF, it comes that's how we will vote. Actually I'd like to see 90+% fired outright, oh, and could someone tell Newt to stick a sock in it?
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Because if we don't, we could be thrown in jail. BIG difference for law abiding people. BUT, I am seriously considering changing my withholding status to make them wait a whole year for my money. I just have to make sure I set it aside so I have it in April. If a lot of us do that, it would cramp their style, then again they could just raise the debt limit again and print more.
I don't think you are extreme, and I so believe they are marxist and they are trying to make us like Europe or worse. I am trying to do anything (nonviolent) in my power to help get us back to the Constitution. Last night I volunteered for the conservative in the Mass. Senate race and I don't even live there. There is some progress – 3 dems are retiring in less than 24 hours.
Thanks for the videos.
Couldn't disagree more with this article. CLUELESS and NAIVE. The Tea Party movement has had "leaders" since the beginning, and will continue to do so, formally or informally, whether people like or not. It is foolhearty to believe otherwise.
What I find troubling also is when I hear people say that we don't need leaders, but who want to lead, or who are already leading. Starts to sound hypocritical. Animal Farm, anyone?
Also, a group without a leader will merely have one assigned to it by the mainstream media, like Palin or Gingrich, which people do not seem to agree on as being what is compatible. And then there are the events with Palin and Hannity, that seem to show them taking advantage of this 'leaderless' movement by placing themselves at the center of it and trying to claim intellectual ownership. BAD IDEA, especially for another empty suit like Palin.
The comment about branding is also accurate. If you cannot engage in effective branding, someone else will do it for you, which is a really bad idea. Take it from someone who works in the field of marketing.
For those who are reading this far and have an interest in the topic, the various tea party groups around the country are trying to create a collaborative infrastructure with the formation of the Patriot Caucus (Google it, please) in order to elect leaders and take things to the next level. Come find my efforts to draft Judge Napolitano as Chair, here: http://patriotcaucus.pbworks.com/draft_Judge-Andr... and Grover Norquist, here: http://patriotcaucus.pbworks.com/Grover-Norquist
I'm wondering more and more if it is time for the blood of patriots. I'm beginning to think that they will ram through policies that will embed their worldview in our laws. And, they are willing to be defeated as a result… or maybe if it works they won't be defeated and will have taken permanent control of the country.
1. Complete control over healthcare.
2. Amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens.
3. Universal voter registration, to buffer their margins.
4. Cap and Trade, to ruin the economy.
5. Card check, to unionize the rest of the economy.
6. Total usurpation of the normal (lawful?) legislative process.
Universal Voter Registration:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/what_the_d...
I am not suggesting that the Tea Party dosen't have leaders and more importantly that it dosen't need leaders. I am just saying that we don't need Big Top Down CEO management.
Thank you! It's been a great ride and the culmination will be oh so sweet. Cheers!
Thank you! It's been a great ride and the culmination will be oh so sweet. Cheers!
A lot of posters have listed items O. promised and lied about. But, no one seems to note another aspect of his win.
It was racist. I know a lot of black people who voted and most had not voted before and they come right out and say that they voted for him because he is black. If whites said that about voting for a white winner the ACLU, SPLC, NAACP, ETC. would all be screaming about it.
However, most of the blacks did not realize that he has no American black history in his family. None of them were slaves – they lived and still do in Kenya. His mother was white – so he is actually a mulatto with a white American mother and an African father who was a British subject at the time of O's birth. Which brings up the natural born Citizen part of the Constitution – doesn't matter where he was born, his father was a British citizen and both parents need to be American Citizens and you need to be born on American soil or an American territory, armed forces base ,etc..
[...] in 2010." That criticism is penned by my fellow BG contributor, Steve McQueen whose piece titled "For Tea Parties, Bigger Is Not Better" I think missed my point. Worse I feel his piece helps the left to further splinter the right in a [...]
[...] That criticism is penned by my fellow BG contributor, Steve McQueen whose piece titled “For Tea Parties, Bigger Is Not Better” I think missed my point. Worse, I feel his piece helps the left to further splinter the [...]
What i hate most about the teaparty is that they turned the term,teabagger,into something BAD.
[...] For Tea Parties, Bigger Is Not Better [...]
That is misdirected anger, the government forced most of those troops to go to Nam. If citizens believe enough of a threat exists, they will bear arms on their own, rather than being forced.
I have been a Republican, from a family of Massachusetts Democrats, for 45 years however,I am not a rock ribbed conservative. There are things Republican with which I disagree. Now I'm being told by the Limbaughs, Becks and Hanitys that if I don't follow the conservative agenda, I'm liberal?? Sorry boys, I don't drink anyone's Kool-Aid!
The worst thing we can do right now is to split the party. I have heard it said that Scott Browns election is a vote for conservatism. Scott Brown is not exactly the "Poster Child" for the conservative movement. We have something good going with the Tea Parties, lets not mess it up by splitting the party.
Believe me we will be watching Scott Brown also and personally expressed have told him so.
As Mr. McQueen states clearly, we are NOT wanting to form a 3rd Party – but we do hope that those in office and the GOP listen to what 'we the people' have to say and expect representation.
We will not be ignored any longer as they do work for us and I am fed up with RINO'S, the out of control spending, the manufacturing of debt now far beyond what any of us can truly comprehend, bribes and back room deals!
In states where there are primaries, KNOW who you are voting for and don't listen to the ads on the TV's which they paint a rosey picture of themselves. Do your homework and majority of those who are running may have been part of the same old – same old: part of the problem so study and see who is the REAL person for the office and the good of your state, city or our Nation! TEAC
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Remain leaderless. We don't need leaders. Look at the success of the Tea Party Movement so far–without leaders. The important immediate goal of the movement is to gain millions more patriots. When we reach forty or fifty million Congress, the President, the Supreme Court and the bureaucrats will take notice. Joining into the GOP or creating another party will add more baggage and destroy the focus of the Movement. The weight of individuals will have much more impact on Washington, D.C. especially if the focus of the movement is on Freedom, a universal dream. Keep growing Tea Partiers. This can be the opportunity to force the government back into the Constitution. Focus on Freedom.