Unions Battle Reform in GOP Stronghold
by Steven Greenhut“Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction,” said German psychologist Erich Fromm. Whatever greed does to one’s psyche, it does even worse things to public budgets. California, sinking amidst a structural $19 billion deficit and facing as much as one-half-trillion-dollars in pension debt, is paying the price for years of legislators giving away the store to public employee unions.

Yet even as unlikely sources (former Assembly Speaker Willie Brown, Treasurer Bill Lockyer and California Public Employees’ Retirement System chief actuary Ron Seeling) recognize the grave threat outrageous pension deals pose to the state’s long-term fiscal health, the state’s unions and Democratic leaders continue to operate as if there is no problem. The public seems increasingly agitated by the injustice of a situation that requires private sector workers to work late into life to pay the higher taxes needed so that public sector workers can retire in their early 50s with six-figure, cost-of-living-adjusted deals. But to the politicians, the unions still rule.
In my old haunts of Orange County, Calif., a particularly nasty race for the Board of Supervisors has been unfolding in the past month. On June 8, voters in that heavily Republican and generally anti-union county will fill the slot of a supervisor who has since been elected to the state Assembly.
Back in January, party leader Scott Baugh threw down the gauntlet after watching one Republican after another sell out to the state’s unions. In what has been referred to as the Baugh Manifesto, Baugh slammed Republicans for their role in expanding debt. He promised to use the party to hold Republicans accountable. He called for the party to do more than just endorse those with an “R” after their name. He made two specific demarcations: No Republican will get party support without backing a now-dead Paycheck Protection Initiative, which limits the ability of unions to use dues for political purposes. And no Republican will get party support “who receives contributions from public employee unions.”
It was tough stuff and the party has stuck to these demands.
In the supervisor’s race, the party and Baugh backed Fullerton City Councilman Shawn Nelson, a conservative who earned party kudos for his efforts to halt a 25-percent retroactive pension increase for Fullerton city workers. Nelson had contacted me, an editorial writer at the Orange County Register at the time, and let me know that the council was meeting behind closed doors to discuss the massive pension boost. Other Republicans appeared to back the deal and the establishment was furious at Nelson for blowing the whistle. His critics claimed, incorrectly, that he violated the state’s open meetings law for telling a reporter about the closed-door negotiations. Actually, the Brown Act requires cities to tell the public the general subject of the discussions, which is all that Nelson did.
So the unions have come out blazing. So far, they have spent more than $900,000 in a barrage of negative hit pieces against Nelson and favorable pieces about their hand-picked candidate, a malleable Anaheim City Councilman named Harry Sidhu who has already promised to drop the county’s lawsuit against a retroactive pension deal granted to deputies in 2001. Both Nelson and Sidhu signed the Baugh pledge, but Sidhu has sat back and said nothing as unions spend nearly a million bucks (expected to hit $1.2 million by Election Day) on a race that generally draws about a quarter of that level of spending.
The unions see this as an attempt to throw Baugh’s manifesto back in his face and to rebuke a line-in-the-sand anti-union candidate.
Every serious budget person in California knows that the state cannot continue lavishing these pensions on public employees. Gov. Arnold Schwarznegger’s pension adviser, David Crane, gave a special word recently at a Capitol hearing to his fellow Democrats: “One cannot both be a progressive and be opposed to pension reform. The math is irrefutable that the losers from excessive and unfunded pensions are precisely the programs progressive Democrats tend to applaud.”
The Reason Foundation’s new study succinctly captures the depth of California’s public-employee problem. We’re not talking only about ungainly pensions, but exorbitant health-care costs being paid to a class of government workers whose ranks get larger even as the state budget implodes.
But the unions don’t care about the math. You stand up to them and you pay a price. If they win in Orange County, then expect the Baugh manifesto to fade away and expect fewer politicians in California who will stand up to union bullying.






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well, maybe if California hires some more people (unionized, of course) to study the problem, they will figure out how to solve it.
/sarc off
1.2 million of union workers money down the drain and the union expects the taxpay to bail them out when the well runs dry,this should boil the blood of every red blooded American.
We need to do something about the unions. Now. We're over 9% unemployment. I think there are more than enough willing replacements for union workers out there somewhere. Let them go on strike – they need us more than we need them, anyway.
Hey, that puppet looks a lot like Oblunder!
The completely crazed, utterly democratic legislature in California will never listen, never change until there are no police, no firefighters, the DMV is closed, and no hospitals can stay open.
Then it will be the Republicans fault.
Remember- California is the state which gave America such lovely people as Nancy Pelosi, Babs Boxer, Diane FineSlime and the dumbest woman ever to serve in congress: Maxine Waters.
Cali's legislature only knows five things: 1) SPEND, 2) GIVE BILLIONS to ILLEGALS, 3) Pander to UNIONS, 4) Over-Regulate, and 5) TAX TAX TAX anything and everything it's possible to.
Except its not using a teleprompter.
Damn, got me there! Must be Biden!
Gee, and all I have is this stinking private pension that pays 1/3 of my salary at retirement, and doesn't include any COLA or benefits. I wish I were a fat cat government retiree… Nah, I couldn't look myself in the mirror every morning.
"this should boil the blood of every red blooded American"
It does.
Well you see, they did hire good union workers to study the problem years ago. They would've finished the study by now if those greedy Republicans had just given the right amount of money to perform the study from the start.
I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't an effort going on to unionize the 600,000 census workers so they can demand permanent employment status with the government. First they'll so screw up the administration of the count that it becomes necessary to hold onto the enumerators. A crisis will ensue over having an accurate count. And congress and the administration push for a permanent Department of the Census to avoid such crises in the future.
The same left in Cali. is the same left bring this country down the same path of destruction for this great nation. We need to let our voices be heard over and over, every election, every time. Let U.S. show them what real change looks like. Remember in November, over and over. We cannot let up for one minute. We will reject their alinsky tactics, again and again. To quote a famous wrestler," Just bring it".
http://remembernovember.com/
Here is a theme song for U.S. all. http://bandofpatriots.us/
Also, this needs to be on all of our protest signs as well.
Restore the Republic
Why are unions given so much power even for unskilled positions? If a manufacturing crew goes on strike, the boss has to decide whether it's worth it to shut down and retrain a new crew, or negotiate. Unskilled workers are a dime a dozen, who gives a s#it if they walk off the job?
By the way, I work in a public sector union position, though my position does require an acquired skill set, can't quite say the same thing for the vast majority of my pencil pushing union co-members…
"California is the state which gave America such lovely people as Nancy Pelosi, Babs Boxer, Diane FineSlime and the dumbest woman ever to serve in congress: Maxine Waters."
All true. But it's also the State that gave us Ronald Reagan. Ironic twist of fate that was.
But then there's New Jersey who gave us the likes of Woodrow Wilson. Could it be possible they will give us our next Reagan in Chris Christie?
definition of right amount of money: infinity + 1
Yes it does
I think it would be a great idea for the unions all over the country to strike…then the companies could hire people who REALLY want to work …!! Of course those same companies would have to watch out for the SEIU thugs that might come after them!!
Absolutely NO federal bailout. Let California stew in it's own juices. Better to yank a bad tooth than to keep taking pain pills until the infection reaches yur brain and kills ya.
JohnK, you must have forgotten ex-Congresswoman from Georgia, Cynthia McKinney.
lol, I think she could run a close race with Maxine Waters….
Don't forget Henry "Rat Face" Waxman. He is one evil rat.
I would also add that all consumers should refuse to do business with companies having unionized labor- especially SEIU, AFL-CIO, etc. In the beginning, it would hurt honest businesses, but in the end, it would force them to rethink their business model. Just a thought. Think hotels, restaurants, casinos, garbage collection, hospitals, etc.
Perfect cartoon!!!
Thanks buddy….
Tough love…the only kind when dealing with those who find necessary change, impossible…
Until we can get rid of the gerrymandered districts to make the elections competitive,
California will always be 3 years away from being 3 years away…
The CA pensions and benefits were okay until last decade, when Gray Davis and the Legislature reduced the retirement age to 55 for general and 50 for safety, without increasing member and state contributions to the PERS fund. I think Arnold is trying to increase worker contributions into the fund, while rolling back benefits to the previous levels. That's a reasonable goal.
JK144
"California is the state which gave America such lovely people as Nancy Pelosi, Babs Boxer, Diane FineSlime and the dumbest woman ever to serve in congress: Maxine Waters."
She has alot of company at the bottom…Hank Johnson, Cynthia Mckinney, et all…With Maxine being not only the most out of touch demagogue, but also the biggest racist.
All these groups that belongs to the Unions: SEIU, ACORN, TIDE, America for REFORMS NOW, ect are like modern day Nazis.
[...] by Steven Greenhut at Big Government [...]
All those who think they have it made with those pensions are in for a rude awakening when the checks start to bounce,with governments taking in less revenue because less people are paying taxes,because people are out of work ,soon there will be no where to get the funds needed to sustain those highend retirement plans.It won't be a pretty sight to see retired union workers standing in the free soup line,or looting local grocery stores,I guess union thugs just take what they need when push comes to shove.
I'm part of a union (not my choice) and it PISSES me off that THEY donate to whom THEY want…..jerks
Unfortunately, if nothing changes, the federal government will print more money and keep printing money. Therein lies the dilemma for Europe… with a common currency, all members of the EC suffer when they print more money. There is a huge chance the Euro will be abandoned by individual member countries- so they can recreate their individual currencies and print as much as they wish. If that becomes reality, the Euro will probably disappear. The same thing can happen here, only quicker and with more dire results.
Just wait till Americans say no to the fat union pensions. Where can you work and never get fired for your job performance? Oh I know the white house. Good luck with your new taxes. Ill not pay a dime more.
taxpayers and private sector unions and small business', the producers of our economy, must get organized into a taxpayers union and go on stike against the leeches of our society, the do nothings and the public sector "workers", and let them know whos boss!
It seems there's a pretty wide gulf between SOME (or even most, you know many union people voted for Reagan) of the rank & file and union leadership. AFL-CIO has a resort with a golf course – FOR LEADERSHIP – not the proletariate.
It's way past time to knock the entire union structure down a few notches.
(I was in a union for short while as a 19 y.o. it sniffed out that scam quickly – Painters Union in EL Paso – lots of government contracts in the 'late 70's)
OFF TOPIC: If you read the drudge report, you will see that BP CEO dumped 1/3 of his shares in BP sometimes in March. Also a lot of insiders dumped their stock 3 weeks before the Gulf crap went down. The rig had employee disagreements eleven hours before the disaster and who got bought off to actually sabotage this rig?
I want to know who knew what before the spill and who got bought off by this adminsitration. If we can find this info, we have grounds for impeachment. I already posted on this site on another thread that this was NOT an accident. Too many questions pending. Lets get to work.
Goldman Sachs sold $250,000,000 worth of BP stock before spill: http://www.prisonplanet.com/goldman-sachs-sold-25...
Time to impeach this "dear leader" with all his conncections.
Does anyone feel sorry for California's Financial situation? I sure don't! For all their Hollywood Money that goes to Obama, and other Liberals, now they're whining that they're broke.
AMEN Shipmate!
Copperpeony, I think you are on to something…We had a television ad, where the CEO was
telling the people of the Gulf Coast that he was sorry about the spill….at the end of the ad, he
thanks the Government for their support…If there was any support from our government, I
didn't see it…All we heard was Obumble knocking BP, and telling people how BP will pay for
everything…No one needed to hear Obumble say that because the BP people were saying it all along,
in fact, they were passing out money to the states for advertisements, and some of the
damages with promises of paying for all of the damages, both financially and environmentally, and
then for the CEO to thank the Govt for knocking them and threatening them doesn't ring true
to me!!
Because Obama REFUSES TO Uphold his Oath to enforce our "Federal Immigration Law" and make I.C.E. DEPORT the 40 million ILLEGALS that are Ruining Wilde over our America, and taking American's Jobs!
If Obama doesn't start DEPORTING Illegala, according to our "Fed Immig.Law" and continues to INSIST THAT HE WON'T, by HOLDING AMERICA for EXTORTION, unless we let him RAM his Communist "comprehensive Amnesty Immigration Reform law" down our throats, HE WILL BE IMPEACHED FOR BREACH OF PRESIDENTIAL CONTRACT.
[...] read the rest. [...]
OFF TOPIC BUT WORTH THE SMILE for a Saturday night:
Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the airports:
All we need to do is develop a booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have hidden on or in your body. The explosion will be contained within the sealed booth.
This would be a win-win for everyone. There would be none of this crap about racial profiling and the device would eliminate long and expensive trials.
This is so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: you're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number…"
I swear cardon, all this smells worse than any tar ball on the beach. I had the same ad here in WA state and none of it makes sense. BUT the numbers do. If anything, this will be the ultimate exposure if anyone can connect the dots and won;t die exposing this farce.
Blanche Lincoln has the unions mad at her,look at this rediculous amount of union members money the guys running the show are spending,incredible.
Unions have poured nearly $6 million dollars into television and radio ads to bolster Halter's effort, including nearly $2.5 million during the three-week runoff election
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38160.h...
Love it!!
As a deterrent…they won’t even need to work.
Roll them out and in about a month….An actor and some special effects, witnesses, maybe a cctv tape. Bingo.
Didn’t dear leader send SWAT and DOJ teams to the other rigs real fast?
Why? I still wonder.
I agree, but who would be willing to investigate this?…There no longer is
anyone in the Media that could or would take up such a big challenge….
Maybe James, but I think this might be out of his league?? What do you
think?…It won't be easy to expose them when the MSM is in their pockets..
When people realize what the class structure really is in California (rich (liberal) class, government class, poor), maybe they'll finally wake up to vote them out.
Amen, brother. No bailouts for California. Let them stew in their own juices.
It will happen. There will be people that are honorable and patriotic and will do it. Might take a while but it will happen. Obama's house of cards is tumbling and fast!!
We'll just have to keep the faith!!, and our fingers crossed while we're at it!
We the people, are the bartenders, (of power), and we need to tell these unfunded drunks to go HOME!!!
SCABs RULE!
Brilliant- You could call it the "Muslim Martyr Maker". Come get your 72 virgins here.
Don't ever forget the Obama-Union team rip-off of the GM bondholders. .06/$1 for investers vs. .28/$1 for UAW.
Is November here yet?
In the spirit of bi-partisan name-calling. The dumbest congresswomen I ever met was Mary Bono, also from California. But you are right, Rep. Waters (D. Cal.) is only smarter than Rep. Bono (R. Cal.) by the smallest of margins.
…And I hear that Wal-Mart will probably be next..??!!
ARE THE UNIONS THE CIVILIAN ARMY OF OBAMA? When Obama spoke during his campaign of creating (Transforming) a civilian army just as strong and well armed as the military, was it the unions he was seeking to empower to fulfill that role?
ohhhh no, Mr Bill!
And I was having such a nice morning. Of course you're right. Make such a royal mess of it that the mess itself justifies a whole new DOC to "better manage" the next on. Ten years' prep time outta do it, eh?
Can we ever fix this mess we call gov't or is it suffering such a horrible basic design flaw that no amount of modifying it will ever ever make it work right.
LOL,
I really would love for the Bigs to dig into the whole gerrymandering program. Someone here said that it's done by computers now? We don't really know a whole lot about how districts are drawn but we sure need to. Course I'm highly motivated, being in Grijalva's district which is, I believe, the second largest voting district in the nation. O.M.G…..the second largest district run by this guy?
That's just wrong. How can one congressional rep ever give true representation to 640K voters? How is that even possible?
Forget unemployment as a function of hires and fires. Jan 1, 2011 the tip of a Tsunami of boomers starts to retire, lowers their taxable income, lowers their consumption of goods and services other than medical, overwhelms that system, and rotates onto SS.
Mull that. Just the tip. World wide. That's the REAL problem to which there is NO solution but rapid declines on every front of every good, service, and every country's GDP.
Boomers are the ticking bomb that will first wipe socialism off the political map and cause capitalism to reel and stagger for 15 years as each year brings more takers who, by simple fact of age and infirmity, will suck the life out of the producing class in every country until all the wells just run dry.
Joejoe,
There's always a choice.
Come to Texas. Open Shop Central. Always has been, always will be. Taste freedom through the fruits of your own labor.
Elam,
What gov't hasn't factored into their little scheme is that the producers CAN AND WILL control profits to match their desired tax bracket. At certain break points, the benefits of the increased income DO NOT outweigh the tax hickey. So we "arrange" to hover just below that break point.
Hey, call'em anything you want, folks, capitalists ain't nobody's pack mule.
cardon,
This will trump every word said by anyone. Obama and BP will, IMO be felled not by the Tea Party or sleezy stock deals or the economy. They will suffer….
DEATH BY BROWN PELICAN!
http://www.ctv.ca/gallery/html/oil-animals-pelica...
Peony
BWAHAHAHAAHA!
The pictures that one put in my head….good thing I've stopped drinkin coffee while reading the posts on this board!
TStomp
However it's done, it's a friggin' mess and an insult to the Republic…
There is so much wrong in Calif and AZ….. most of the problems will eventually be allieviated if this one change is undertaken…IMHO..(LOL sleeping.)
Sorry, actsnow,
I don't care WHO they get to defeat Lincoln. She DEFINES the problem in gov't today.
No amount of her late to the party faux "concern" for the economy will erase the fact she was the final and deciding vote in the Senate to foist that $3.3 TRILLION DOLLAR ATROCITY CALLED HC on taxpayers.
Oh Lord and howdy it does!
"It burns, it burns, IT BURNS ME!"
I love that cartoon!
So whose hand is up ObaMao's rear and making him talk?
There is no way this "C" level student, "Present" voting, dingledork is actually smart enough to be setting all this devious marxist progressive hijacking of USA in motion.
Who is the REAL puppetmaster?
Soros?
SEIU?
Acorn?
Satan?
WHO???
Self-centered and self loathing, California is run by anti-americans and haters of the founding fathers. It will never change because 90% of the population think and act just like Obama. It's all about whats in it for me. Oh and of course those self hating white wannabees who saturate and sypathize with every anti-caucasian cause. All so they can primp in front of the mirror and say to themselves "I feel good. I feel great. I feel wonderful".
Just what the Democrat Legislature recommended. Blind FOOLS !
???????????
We can only Hope !
"should boil the blood of every red blooded American."
Boiling = Burns?
Maybe it did not work…
You the same Philly Mike as before?
Mr. Obama's plan is to Tax and Take whatever money you have left..And who voted for this idiot ?
I've been wondering that myself…
Mr. Obama will support the unions above the American People as he has already proven.
ALL OF THE ABOVE…
Philly Mike,
That is a lot of hands in the same place sir!
I'm thinking like the Lord of the Rings. Each of these are minions of the one true dark lord who is pulling all of the strings…
But maybe I just watched the wrong movie last night…
NEVER will I buy GM or Chrysler products for the REST OF MY LIFE!
That was one of the worst ripoffs in HISTORY and the press is silent!
di da …
Love it! Totally agree and a GREAT analagy!! I would think with all the money floating around from all the left, big-mouthed "Hollyrocks" in California (and all the properties they own around the world) that go around criticizing Conservatives, their state's economy would be the best instead of the worst. How about hosting a hundred or so celebrity benefits and donating the money to bail out your own pathetic, sorry azz state. Then vote in some people that actually know how balance a budget.
Inferred scans, less intrusive, they look at your body heat.
"So easy a cave man can do it."
Texas you are completly right but for the wrong reasons. The people who are now retiring paid hard cash every week into Social Security, matched by employers. This hard cash was just to irrestisable to both parties and they started raiding the trust. To date they have not replaced a dime of it.
Now they want to blame it on the very people who paid into it. And have and are lying to the younger generation that it is somehow the seniors fault. If the government hadn't stolen the money (actual cash) it would have been invested and the trust would have been self funded for years to come.
When the working man questioned this we were told not to worry it will be there for you. Just this year they passed health care and stole another 1/2 TRILLION more from seniors.
Jingo,
That is the very reason I get SO ANGRY when SS and MC are called "entitlement" programs. Like HELL! Like you and everyone else, I paid for them with every paycheck in ever increasing amounts, I might add.
Entitlement my ass. PAYBACK FOR THE LOAN is what these programs are. Straight up payback and not even with interest!
But like the coming enslaught of boomers….that's another thing gov't NEVER talks about. That and their eternal LOOTING of this fund for one airheaded spending program after another. Like kids with daddy's credit card in their pocket.
aggg….don't get me started, lolol!
A retroactive 25% pension increase?!?! That is totally insane. I am stunned that anyone at all would have considered backing it. And I can certainly see why they were working on it in secret.
The pied piper union leaders spent all the members'' monies on political races and their own personal comforts. Take a look at the seiu debt. Surprisingly the rank and file has not revolted to demand accountability and to dispose of their worthless leadership. It's just another great example of how the socialist agenda has eroded individuality and conscious over the last 60 years.
Actually it's the anointed one.
Bring it on! We need a good revolution to clean out the riff raff. Exile all progressives to Antarctica.
"Can we ever fix this mess we call gov't or is it suffering such a horrible basic design flaw that no amount of modifying it will ever ever make it work right"
Actually, I don't believe there is any design flaw at all. That certain unscrupulous people have exploited the Republic to corrupt the Framers design for their own gain is undeniable. But I believe it's crucial for us to abandon the very idea of "fixing" the mess in Washington. That may sound odd coming from me, but let me explain.
It is, in fact, the concept of "fixing the mess" that delivered to us the dark lord obama. The messianic figure. The fixer. I'll submit that the salvation of the Republic will not come from a "fix." Not from obama, and not from a "conservative fixer" either. It will come by a CHANGE IN DIRECTION.
I know you can call a change in direction a fix in itself, but the mindset is different. To contrast the difference in mindsets, I'd compare the obama approach to "transforming America," to the step by step plan put out by Paul Ryan in his "Roadmap For America's Future." http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/
obama and the "progressive" element in government believe they can "fix" America by instituting sweeping new bureaucracies, taking over industry, regulating away risk, and curtailing individual freedoms. This is the "direction" they are headed. Paul Ryan's approach (scored in CBO actuaries to ELIMINATE the national debt. Not just the deficit, but the ENTIRE national debt) is to set in motion a gradual reformation of those parts of government that have led us to near fiscal ruin. This plan does not add a single dollar to existing spending, but neither does it impose radical austerity measures on the current institutions. It is in fact rather, a simple change in direction. Instead of the direction of increasing spending, it turns in the direction of decreased spending. Instead of the direction towards new and expanding bureaucracies, it gradually shrinks and/or eliminates those bureaucracies. Instead of moving in the direction of increased complexity in government (tax codes, regulation, federal overreach) it moves us in the direction of streamlining government.
The trouble with the obama approach (besides the fundamental socialization of America) is that it seeks to replace the current blighted systems with other, inevitably more blighted systems. And this they call "fixing America." Paul Ryan's approach is instead a systematic approach to REFORMING the broken parts of the existing systems, cutting away the cancerous formations, without destroying the original design set forth by the Framers for the Republic. So the "fix" becomes a stop point, and a shift in direction toward a future of prosperity, not austerity. It doesn't happen overnight. It doesn't instantly cure us. But it sets us on a course where we first stop the bleeding, and then begins the process of healing.
In short, the "fix" is not an event, it's a process; a change in direction for which we don't need another messiah. We only need a plan. We only need a roadmap.
There is a good lady opposing this la raza national. Back her. Get out the vote. Remember Grijalva survives on the illegal vote bussed in to support his agenda.
that one's not just outta da park, John…..it's headed for MARS!
Thanks for the "head's up" to spur everyone to take a gander at this approach. I see some reading in my future.
Time to re-learn "orienteering."
Thanks, as always
Texas Stomp, you are right, those pictures are hard to look at…If that spill goes into
the Atlantic, then what!
I'm so sorry, I wanted to give you a thumbs up and my cursor was on the down side,
and I didn't realize it…..
You talking about Ruth. Great person but I fear given this district's unprecidented (except maybe Chicago) election problems with illegals voting….at least once every election….and her abysmal war chest of almost ZERO big bucks, she will remain the little dark horse who never got the gitas to make a serious run. There's another….and Ruth says several other candidates who jumped in last minute after Grijalva publicly called for the boycott…and even THEY are better funded than McClung.
I don't think she can win….just sheer logistics and the fact that the GOP here only ponied up $25K for her. But I hope she sees this as a first step, maybe goes after a state office next time out. She has the will but nobody, and I mean nobody is helping her. Sickening to think even the GOP won't, but then they've ALWAYS been a "good old boy" network….emphasis on BOY.
I even told McCain, personally, if he'd just put her up on stage with him and Palin I would VOTE FOR HIM and he wouldn't do it. Nor would Palin. Maybe they've written Grijalva's district off as unwinable. Or maybe there's another, uglier reason. Either way they both had a chance to give her a bump and they acted like she didn't exist.
She'll get my vote unless another candidate can actually poll well against Grijalva. It will have to be a Hispanic and they will have to waffle on the amnesty issue enough to not ignite LaRaza. Don't really see that happening. Seems like Grijalva's essentially bullet proof because of the huge illegal population in his district…none of whom are likely to be stopped from voting if they want to.
Total perversion of everything elections are supposed to be but it's the way this district has always been. One of the most corrupt in America. It would make Chicago politicians proud.
LOL, don't worry. I never look at those thumbs up or down.
I can barely look at those pictures. Heartbreaking to see these already barely surviving, gentle creatures and what's being done to them. I wish those pictures would go viral all over the world. There wouldn't be a dry eye on the planet.
I think you have every right to worry about that spill hitting the Atlantic. Those plumes pose the greatest threat to our oceans that we've seen in modern time. Full of LP gas as well as oil, hundreds of feet down, they're sucking the oxygen and life out of every area they float by, killing everything large and small in the oceanic food chain.
With hurricane season upon us…anything can happen to take those plumes anywhere. This disaster has only begun to be realized for the global threat it is. God alone knows what those plumes will do and where. Floating death bubbles don't half cover it.
You would think with thousands of oil rigs out in the gulf that the oil companies would
have had some safety measures ready to implement in case of an accident, and the government,
should have made sure they had plans before they issued an ok to drill…Both the govt. &
the oil companies are to blame…..And it looks like with all the ruckus, the media seems to
be forgetting Obumbles EPA was ready to give that particular rig a safety reward…..Not
hearing much about that anymore..(Or, did they give them a reward, I can't remember.)
Why make war on Antartica? Send them to Europe where they belong.
cardon,
That is precisely where the lines blur. Big business is no more the "answer to life, the universe and everything" than big gov't. Neither holds the public's confidence any longer. We've seen the limitations of both in Katrina and Haiti and now the Gulf. There are only so many silver bullets. When you're in uncharted territory, you truly are on a wing and a prayer.
Imagine these folks if we go on a building binge and put up dozens more nuclear reactors as an alternate to oil? Yeh they got smart folks to police them, they really do, but the overriding fact is, once the core's compromised…nobody can stop squat. If if melts down it melts down and down would be the magma chamber of the planet.
We have GOT to get sensible about energy, our choices, our lifestyle, and how we view the whole picture of "energy." There is no single "sector" or "technological" answer. It must be a comprehensive view from source to refiner to supplier to consumer…..a total sea change in the way we view energy.
Can we do it, of course we can. It's just always been easier to not do it. We've always been in shallow water where any disaster is manageable. Deep water rigs have always been ticking bombs. We've just been lucky thus far.
Our luck just ran out.
Whether we see this as an opportunity to step back, review, restructure, and rearrange our perspectives, attitudes, and behaviors re energy will determine, imo, whether we and our planet survive long term or not.
As I said it can be done. Question is will we do it.
According to SEIU Before they were allowed to seal the records. The pension fund was 60 Million short of its obligations. But they also spent 60 million to get Obama elected. Per Andy Stern. Now they intend to spend another 100 million to get Dems elected this Novemebr. That will have to come from the depleted pension fund as they do not have that cash on hand. All of this, and they are asking/demanding that the US taxpayer to bail out the pension funds that the members have no voice in how the money is spent. RICO Act comes to mind, And I want to know why the feds have refused every request to investigat this corruption.
The point I was trying to make was the money the union is spending on this,I hope Lincoln goes down,I can't justify the union spending 6 million of the workers money,more than likely pension money on this election.The union workers need to hold those in the front office accountable for their wasteful actions.Oh,thats right,unions are run by dictators,the worker ants have no say.
Oh I know, actsnow,
How long are we gonna accept as our onlyr choices, bad, worse, and O.M.G.? We are decent people, sound thinkers, we know how to manage our lives and budgets, run businesses…within our budgets.
Why won't WE run for office? What's stopping so many really good folks from takin that step? The GOOOH party even hosts a program to teach folks how to do it and once elected they offer more help on how gov't works and how to be an effective legislator.
If just a few folks on this site would run they'd be head and shoulders above most of the candidates out there. But they, won't. Nobody really WANTS the job cause it's just so….I don't even have enough adjectives to describe politics.
That's why I like the GOOOH solution. Short term citizen legislators. 2-4 years, live in your district most of the year, NO PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS in the house. I truly believe we could "condition" the country to not only accept this model, but that it would work and work well. If it didn't cost a fortune and require a life change, maybe more good folks would see their way to doin it, like a hitch in the military.
Beats havin to always hold our noses and vote for the "lesser evil"
…..sigh
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