Why Is a Government-Run Healthcare Lover a 2012 GOP Frontrunner?
by SusanAnne HillerYes, I’m serious.
Why is Mitt Romney even in the running, when healthcare played such an important role in the mid-term elections as noted by Rasmussen:
Fifty-nine percent (59%) of those who voted in today’s elections nationwide favor repeal of the national health care bill passed by congressional Democrats in March, including 48% who Strongly Favor it.
Rasmussen Reports telephone surveying nationwide after the polls closed found that 40% are opposed to repeal, with 32% who Strongly Oppose it.
This mirrors what we have found every week in surveys since March.
Romney, as most know, is the one-term governor of Massachusetts and the creator of RomneyCare. With two Massachusetts’s miracles for the state, a trifecta may be a tall order when presented on the national stage for the presidency–especially when Republican Senator Scott Brown, also from MA, has some questionable leanings.
But, then again, maybe not.
Quinnipiac released its latest poll showing Romney, ahead of former Governor Mike Huckabee, and edging out President Obama in 2012:
In trial heats for 2012, former Massachusetts Gov. Romney receives 45 percent to 44 percent for Obama, while the president gets 46 percent to 44 percent for Mr. Huckabee. Matched against Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, a virtual unknown to most voters, the president leads 45 – 36 percent.
Romney and Obama do matchup well, but maybe on the same side of the aisle as Romney is quite RINOish. In addition to their love of government-run healthcare, Obama and Romney do have some other public relations commonality; they play to the ignorance of the people by capitalizing on their popularity.
Democrat Tom Daschle, as seen in this PBS interview, explained Obama’s situation for 2008 the presidential run:
Why the 2008 window for Obama?
I think the window is important for a couple of reasons. One, it was an open opportunity — that is, he wasn’t running against an incumbent; and secondly, because the longer he’s in Washington, the more history he has, and the more history he has, the more he’s going to be explaining his votes and his actions and his statements and his positions that undermine his message. His message is one of change, his message is one of new direction, and it’s harder to do that after you’ve been in Washington for a long time.
Daschle is correct. Romney was elected governor after his popular role as CEO of the Salt Lake City 2002 Olympics, but did not seek a second term as MA governor under the guise that everyone expected him to run for president. But, really, could his dropping approval ratings as governor have played a larger role in that decision not to seek a second term. An incumbent loss would have been a PR disaster for Romney and would have crushed any hope of a presidential run. And Obama, well, we are watching the unraveling of a radical left-wing presidency that continues to govern against the will of the people.
Entering into the 2012 relentless campaign season, both have records on healthcare and the tea partiers are not going to let Romney forget, Obama just got mauled in the mid-terms, but on the other hand will the “general” voting public remember come 2012? Romney’s slick PR campaign, which he can afford, sanitizes his political persona.
Self-righteous and ideological politicians tend to bank their power hopes on the gullibility and short memories of the electorate. Romney’s history on taxes and, well, RomneyCare should immediately disqualify him from the 2012 Republican nod as should his zeal to be president. President Eisenhower once said, “Any man who wants to be president is either an egomaniac or crazy.” Those words ring true today, don’t they?
Editor’s Note: The use of a photo of Mitt Romney speaking at Heritage Foundation was deliberate. Conservative activists don’t fully understand the role that Heritage played in passing RomneyCare in Massachusetts. Nor do they understand fully that Heritage was a pioneer of the “individual mandate” provision that was incorporated into Obamacare.
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Why?
Because people are stupid, and gullible.
Live free or die is the motto of New Hampshire, I believe…
Mitt Romney is a major RINO and will make a lot of spark and flash at the beginning but will eventually go down the tube again, just like he did last time. The Tea Party will have no part of Romney.
You are right.
As an independent, I will NOT vote for Romney. I wasted my 2008 vote on McCain, and that vote would have been better gifted to a third-party. I'm voting conservative in 2012 whether the Republicans offer a conservative candidate or not. Although someone like Romney (or Romney himself) might slow down the Obama mess, such a RINO candidate will eventually spend US to death with the inflated federal government. I hope the Repubican Party gets it–I'm not sure it does.
The primary system is completely rigged so the party bosses can overrule the wish of the rank and file party members.
But he is the next Republican Standard Bearer I have been warning people about.
The answer to your question Ms. Hiller is really quite simple……Mr. Health Care himself the closet progressive,, is the preferred choice the ruling elite want you to vote for…..
I have a hard time believing many of these so called polls….
Please, lets put a real conservative in and not another RINO like McCain! Don't make the same mistake California made this year with our Governor and out Senator.
The intrenched Republicans will push him on us because he is their new Standard Bearer, like they did with Bob Dole and John McCain.
What about NO MORE PROGRESSIVES ! don't they get?
This is freaking pathetic….
If Sara runs Romney doesn't stand a chance in the primary! But yes people are stupid, just think about McCain, Whitman and Fiorina. When given the choice between a real liberal and liberal lite they go with the real thing every time. The libs say Palin will insure Obama will win in 2012, I think Romney definitely would assure a Obama victory.
Why? Why? Because progressives do not listen to the people , nor do they care about what the people want. They also seem to be VERY slow learners. What was it about Nov. 2nd did they not get?
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. . . because the same people who thought Michael Steele would be a good riposte to the Obama-quake also think Romney is the cat's ass.
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Meow.
Romney, Huckabee, Newt, and all the rest are nothing but retreads.
Same ol' game.
…..because he is handsome and has a nice family. He seems like an honest good guy. He's not my idea of conservative, so I won't be voting for him. We need one primary date all across the country. That way, New Hampshire and Iowa Caucus, (corrupt) will not choose the Republican candidate for the rest of us.
Don't worry everyone, you'll get a choice between Romney or Jeb.
Team Red, Team Blue progressive fraud still in full effect.
Anyone who wants a real choice in 2012 had better be working on it now.
The distinction between what Romney did and what Congress did is important. The basis for the lawsuits against Obamacare is that it's outside of the federal government's Constitutional jurisdiction. In the case of Massachussetts, this was enacted on a state-level within the realm of that state's constitution as prescribed by the US Constitution. While I think it was a bad idea, I believe that at its most basic level, this is a states-rights issue. It's not something the general electorate would ever understand though.
THANK YOU for posting this. I've been asking the same question for months. As a citizen of the People's Republic of Massachusetts, I am constantly stunned that anyone can look at the state-mandate, the penalties for not complying, the "spreading of the wealth," and the overreach of state government in health care and say, "wow! now that's one heck of a conservative!" How does RomneyCare reflect conservative ideology? It doesn't. Romney is no conservative.
Romney is a PROGRESSIVE RINO, he'll never get mine or my family's vote.
Romney is no better that that friggin' ass hat Lindsey Graham or dipstick Meghan McCain and he is not a welcome candidate for 2012.
If Romney is the republican nominee we're going third party in my family.
PERIOD.
Romney doesn't belong in the White House, he belongs in Hollywood with the rest of the actors and poseurs.
Romney will never get my vote. He was for Obamacare before Obama was, and predictably, it failed.
The RNC had BETTER get the damn message. We're tired of "moderates", aka RINO's, and the old guard is just that. We need fresh blood, and true conservatives. Romney doesn't meet either standard.
Amen sister.
well if that were true, we wouldnt have had a tea party at all would we? Or at least, not as successful as the Tea Party has been.
There definitely needs to be sorting out, and the establishment Repubs need to gtfo because they're certainly proving themselves incapable of understanding anything the American people want.
Speaking of which, why didn't the Repubs propose a full Earmark ban for both parties? Just straight-up pork-barrel ban?
The constitution is focused around consensus, not bribery. The people in favor of pork-barreling and earmarks always say "the constitution demands compromise," but this is just compromising the demands of the constitution.
Sarah Palin needs to announce on Hannity tonight that she is going "all in" and making a run for the Presidency. If for no other reason than to suck all the oxygen out of the room. I can just see Newt, Romney, Huckabee and all the other RINO loser's heads exploding…………
They say they've heard us….
I say BULLSHIT!……
What has to happen, before they get the damn message?
Well, the presss certainly manipulates things. They portray the liberal republican in a flattering light during the preliminaries, and demonize the conservative. The brain washed uneducated massed then vote for the liberal republican, and then we find ourselves facing a Kenyan tyrant 2 years later.
that's when we knock the legs out from under the table.
Rather than sit at it ………………………with these phonies.
Probably blood in the streets.
If Rubio and West had been in office a bit longer, I'd say they'd be an excellent ticket.
or at least rolling across the floor ……………..all blue in the face.
I akin this to Herpes.
It may go away for a while, only to return again. Elimination of the disease carrier is the only cure.
I'll tell you why.
I was CALLED / INTERVIEWED for this exact poll last week, and they simply gave VERY few choices. It was: Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Mitch Daniels, Tim Pawlenty, Haley Barbour, and John Thune… AND THAT'S IT.
There was no "OTHER" or "NONE OF THESE IDIOTS" answer. Once you identified yourself as a Republican or Independent (me) these were your choices. Period. And then you only had 3 choices a) favorable b) unfavorable, or c) not enough info about them.
I've done several polls over the years, but for this one I was very frustrated with their "choices". It was almost as if they were trying to push an agenda.
This is going to be harder than I expected..
Do I have to come over there and slap some damn sense in them?
1776 all over again.
Mitt should be singing back-up for Pat Benatar……………with the PRETENDER'S!
If it's someone like Cain, Bachmann, Christie, West or Rubio I'm there, if it's Romney I'll be going third party for certain.
Better yet, she could wait until they all officially announce that they are running. THEN she could say she's running because "there are no conservatives in the race". KaBoom!
To be completely fair to Romney, as a governor of a state, if that state wants to engage in socialized medicine, it has every right under the Constitution to attempt it. As long as the state leaves the other 49 out of it, then it is legal.
In fact, we should encourage experimentation at the state level so the national government can better understand what doesn't work. Think of it as a pilot study that only screws up 5 million lives instead of 300 million.
Yup.
RINO's are the STD of the GOP.
It is like getting rid of syphilis. It can't be done. The best hope is to hold it abeyance with strong antibiotics.
That would be an excellent idea.
Great point you made.
Your comment regarding the basis for law suits is correct. Those are the grounds on which O-Care is unconstitutional. You get a biscuit.
For your masked approval of Romney and your little disguised swipe at the Tea Party, you get nothing.
Enjoy your biscuit.
Maybe there is a Silver lining to Obama and it will wake Americans up! But when I see a boy being strip searched while his father watches and a girl being felt up while her mother holds her, and neither doing a damn thing to stop it, it doesn't give me much confidence in Americans.
The sooner this Mutt…I mean Mitt…no, I mean mutt, gets the message that old money RINO's need not apply the better.
Thank Barbara Bush Mutt..err Mitt. She gave us a not too subtle reminder of what to expect from a boy playing with daddy's money.
This man is the antidote!
http://draftcain.org/default.aspx
Herman Cain is the left's worst nightmare come true!
The Rasmussen poll? You are not serious are you? He had Angle 2-3 percentage points up on Reid two days before the election. She lost by 7 percentage points. Come on. The landslide was due to 9% plus unemployment.
Seriously? Yes, Romney is trying to make this about states' rights to speak to what he (and apparently you) believes to be the stupid general electorate whom he (and obviously you) believes to be gullible enough to ignore the fact that RomneyCare is ObamaCare writ small. It's the ideology behind it that matters (spreading the wealth is spreading the wealth, big government is big government), and that the general electorate understands very well, thank you very much.
No one has actually voted for Romney since Obamacare passed. He is the front runner on paper only.
Yep.
I said over a year ago I would vote for Herman Cain.
ROTFLMAO. Let me help you out. If it is unconstitutional under the United States Constitution, it is unconstitutional under a state constitution as well. You see the supremacy of federal law was settled, oh about 145 years ago at Appomattox Courthouse.
Actually you have a point. They can't be trusted. A recent Rasmussen study reported that HuskersLoveBo wrote thought provoking intelligent posts, which, as everyone here can attest to, is assine.
Yeah…. screw them.
I do not approve of Romney, and do support the Tea Party. My point is that Romney would never convince the general electorate that states do have the right to enact stupid laws.
Let the pollsters and the pundits blather away. Romney will never be the nominee.
The Republican electorate will not be "McCained" again. I think we just proved that back on the 2nd of this month.
Not at all what I said. Note I said the law is a bad idea. The general electorate won't buy his attempt to say it's a states-rights issue.
Mutt Romney.
Isn't he the feller who strapped the family dog on the roof and drove cross country? Poor Fido.
My damn cartoon pea-brain conjures up scenes of Chevy Chase and his Las Vegas Vacation. I wonder where Romney left poor Aunt Edna?
Yeah, with the exception of Sarah Palin who else has the mainstream "buzz" currently in terms of name recognition? At least he has charisma, which is apparently all it takes to get in office these days (see also our current dud).
Electing the same guy who thought that was a good idea is not the answer. Apologists for Romney keep tying themselves in knots: well, it's Massachusetts, what do you expect, it's a progressive state (commonwealth)? But that's the point, why elect a progressive "conservative" whom we KNOW does not reflect the values of the nation to run said nation?
So Mitt thinks "it's his turn?" Obviously, we've not learned our lessons from '96 (Dole) or '08 (McCain).
He is a front runner because Old Media is trying to pick him just like they picked McCain.
And I have you two legs up under a bull in pasture.
That's not true at all. The federal government cannot mandate auto insurance, but states can. Does that mean state auto-insurance laws are unconstitutional? The distinction here is what is unconstitutional vs. what powers the Constitution gives the federal government and which are left to the states.
Ah, my misunderstanding.
Honestly for CA we're not going to get a true conservative gov. any time soon. Sorry, not going to happen. MA seems fairly equivalent in that respect. But that doesn't really matter since Moonbeam won, so we're doomed doomed doomed…
As an independent, I would not vote for him based on his healthcare stance alone.
The man has done some good things, but we need a leader who can make decisions that are right for this country, not just another pretty face.
"I think the window is important for a couple of reasons."
#1 being……..to throw these asshole RINO's out of it……..as your going down the road about 110 MPH.
Oh wait…………….that'd be littering…………………wouldn't it?
Yep.
Oh dear, no, actually it was not. The Constitution itself "trumps" state law, but federal law is constantly challenged–and often overturned–by states and even by individuals. It's not carved in stone. Thank God.
If Romney is it I am voting third party.
I think she won't announce that she is running until Obama does. As I don't think he will even run, many might find themselves disappointed in Sarah for not running.
It would never work, but it would be really fun to try.
Her leash was tied next to the dog. The dog stayed on his feet longer than Edna.
Hmmm. Let's see. If the federal government can mandate Ollies Barb-b-que has to serve blacks even though it does not have any interstate sales or other interstate business, they could mandate a driver has car insurance. They simply have left this matter up to the states.
One of the dip$hit idiots is coming through and "thumbs downing" everyone.
They tried to pick him in '08 and failed there too. They really really want us to like this guy. Wonder why?
I don't disagree with you. You should always vote for the candidate who is most likely to support your values. My only point was that the federal government should be small and limited. There is no room for experimentation based on the Constitution, which over the past 80+ years has been pummeled by bureaucrats. That being said, the Constitution also supports individual states who, by the vote of their citizenry, elects to do all manner of crazy things.
So, if we actually used and understood the Constitution correctly, we could see a principled governor doing certain things that he would NEVER attempt, as a matter of principle, as the POTUS.
I am not saying Romney is this guy. But it is also not completely fair of us to castigate his actions as a governor on what he might do as a president, that's all.
I don't know who's running those polls but Romney is a socialist RINO. He's just like his father and that's not good. No chance at all.
** I just saw Herman Cain on TV. He said that he would 'like to help Obama as an advisor.' I could never vote for Herman Cain. He's OUT for me as a possibility for Pres. I didn't like what I heard.
that just means we're being effective………………….take it as a compliment.
Yep.
I fixed it for you.
I won't be voting for Romney, I don't like him anyway he has zero charisma just like Obama and like Obama Mitt is blaming someone else for his healthcare plan being a complete failure.
Gary Johnson 2012–2 term Governor of New Mexico.
He's a front runner because the mainstream media wants him to be a front runner. Is anyone actually thinking any of these past candidates are options for 2012?
No one who posts on BG would want this guy, or Huckabee, or any other retread.
I promise if Romney is the nominee I will start a third party… and leave the GOP
The only reason he is a front-runner is because he has the money to put his name out there. You would think he learned his lesson. The last time around, he had to spend more money per delegate than any other candidate. Now he is following up on a president who followed up on what he did as a governor, in the face of the Tea Party title wave to boot. Is he a masochist?
Of course he polls ahead of Huckabee. MH talks a good game, but when confronted by a progressive, he caves. Every Time. We have to have better candidates than this!!
It raised premiums by 40% for those who pay. When did socialism ever work fairly????????
Oh come on.. CPAC is controlled by neo-con, new convert to Islam, Grover Norquist. Norquist wants to destroy the US, for his own profit. He's in service to the same people George Soros is. Norquist wants a tool in the white house, he doesn't want a real conservative, who wishes to serve our country, he wants someone who will sell us out, and that description fits Romney to a t.
You can bet your sweet bippy, the ruling class blue-bloods will see it as Mitt’s turn. We do not need a Dole, or McLame, we need a counter puncher who will drive the point home that Barry is an America hating socialist jerk, and win by 48-49 states ala Reagan.
They did not learn a damn thing .
The primary system is not rigged as much as it is organized and decided upon well before a candidate makes an announcement to the public. If you want to affect change it has to begin with TEA Party minded people getting involved within their precincts. They vote for precinct leaders and they go on the the regional then national meetings and make decisions.
The problem is that we have the old establishment still driving the boat.
We need to change this, then you will see better candidates. Here's a group that can help: http://www.nationalprecinctalliance.org/
Give the dumbass Michael Steele a message : chairman@gop.com.
I see. What, does the truth hurt? Specifically, what is incorrect about my post? I eagerly await your response.
Front Runner, my you know what. What a crock. It's the PR of lies going on here.
Sorry Urinal, but I gave up potty humor in the 11th grade.
I would love a Cain/Bachmann or Cain/West ticket!
Talk about driving the left right up a tree and making their heads explode with strategy nightmares!
We can do a helluva lot better than butt hole Romney!
Here, moron, I will help you out: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/po...
You are right, fuzi, but your point is not relevant. I stated if a law was unconstitutional under federal law, it would be under state law, too. Therefore, whether a federal law is unconstitutional has nothing to do with my post.
Missy, I'm right there with you. There will definitely be a third party viable candidate if Romney is the republican nominee.
The GOP is already on a very short leash with me. If they nominate this numbskull in 2012, I will NEVER vote Republican again.
Bingo! This is the media talking. And, they don't speak for us, never have. If they are smart, the Republicans better make liars out of them.
Doesn't it depend on whether you allow the media to pick the candidate.
And I am sure the media has the best interests of the country in mind.
So why not skip the polls and pick our own candidate. I sure don't want Romney-Kare.
Agreed. I, too, am a conservative Independent, and I cannot fathom voting for Obama's brother by a different mother, either. Why not just vote for Obama, so we can be assured he'll leave office in January 2017, rather than risk having his albino twin in office until 2021?
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