Lets recall those votes…

Republican leadership=non compos mentis

The left has no ethics…..what a surprise!

They have no idea of just what is coming…I just hope that it will not require lead in the air.

If this precedent is allowed to stand radicals in the Democratic majority can continue to delay the seating of Scott Brown and push through anything their heart desire's including Obamacare. I do not know how disputes of this nature are handled, but something must be done to stop these illegal acts. I think the only solutions is a lawsuit in federal court.

I wonder if the Republican leadership is looking ahead to when they have the majority, and allowing a precedent to be set? I also look forward to that day, but that is a piss-poor reason to allow the law of the land to be ignored. That sets an even bigger, and more dangerous precedent!

I am coming around to the "nuke all incumbents" point of view. As they say, these people apparently could not figure out how to pour piss out of a boot, if the instructions were written on the sole!

Scott Brown needs to fight for his vote to be heard !!! The votes that have been cast so far since the election should be vetoed and re-voted on.. Sadly the only thing I heard today on FNC is they passed the bill 60/40 with no mention of the non senator voting !! I do wonder if the only thing that will stop this is for a few thousand or a few million Americans surrounding the capital and not letting anyone in or out until they see the light and remember who they are there to serve..

Simple solution………Senate leaders should repeal any vote that Kirk made after his term expired and allow Sen Brown to cast a new vote……….Bwahahaha,,,,,,,,I made a funny………..Welcome to the Chicago way America…Enjoy!

Why isn't Scott Brown raising hell about this?

Five observations from last night's speech:

I don't fake outrage. I observe things and then make certain judgments based on what I see. Here's my reaction.

1) I don't care, you are the president, and you are the executive branch. You do not, ever, call out the Supreme Court of the United States in front of the other branch of government.

2) Lecturing Republicans was the wrong way to go, and George Bush is evil, I got it… I heard this in 2008. I'm sort of over it.

3) Nice to hear that he is willing to discuss nuclear energy and domestic drilling, but this is all a ruse… and here is why.They can talk about nuclear and oil, but we know that the EPA can stop development at any time, espeically under the new regulations… and that Sierra Club will block development in court and hold up projects infinitely. This is what made Lindsay Graham look so bad when he reached across the aisle. Republicans need to demand language that prevents useless lawsuits and see if the Democrats block it. If they do, you'll see that this was all talk.

4) You cannot, cannot CANNOT, say that we are going to double exports and then demand economic and energy policies that will make that goal impossible. Cap and trade, EFCA and the healthcare bill will not make this possible. You need to address corporate taxation, lending practices, the need to eliminate subsidies, unionization issues and the water laws of California if you are serious. If you look at what the EPA is doing to the strawberry and olive trade in California, you would know that we are now going to go from an exporter of these goods to an importer because we are so very concerned about a bait fish. The Southern California farm trade is being destroyed by liberal environmentalist policies. Environmental policies that put fish over man do not accomodate expansion of exports. And, I hate to break it to people, but we are never going to be the largest exporter of Windmills.

5) He repeated about 10 campaign promises and demands of things that he himself have broken on a regular basis in the past year… Lobbyists, earmarks, transparency are the three big ones. I don't think that people are fooled anymore, and even the AP came out this morning and showed "Obama's view" and "Reality"

I thought it was a mediocre speech, and that is saying something considering that I respect the presidency and give him a lot of rope. I'm tired of words. I'm tired of promises. I'm tired of blame… But what can you do when the GOP is puttering along like clowns as well.

If the GOP had a great speechwriter and someone who could talk on the fly, they could have really hammered him and showed his empty rhetoric last night. Start with the exports issue first, since this is the easiest one to address.

"The president took a significant step in the right direction tonight, stating that we need to increase manufacturing, but Mister Obama needs to understand that the United States is not able to compete because of antiquated tax laws that are not enabling us in today's globalized economy." Discuss the fact that 40 percent corporate taxes are the highest in the world and make it an unfriendly business environment.

Then talk about how cap and trade, health care and EFCA are all unfriendly to business, especially to manufacturing… will lead to more outsourcing and layoffs and then amke it virtually impossible to reach that ambitious goal.

And then just hammer on jobs and centralized planning. Public sector making so much money vs. Private sector failing. Use history as a guide.

Then… address the hypocrisy… Republicans are catering to special interests? They are being given money by the banks and corporations? What about the Democrat healthcare bill? What about the 14 million that Wall Street gave Mr. Obama during the election? A populist vernacular coming from a corporatist President is a great act, but once again he is failing to live up to the standards that he wishes to impose on everyone else.

Seriously…Where the hell is the GOP and how is this so difficult? This was on my mind the entire speech and I feel like they are afraid to go on the offensive.

The minority is supposed to be on the attack… The minority wants to give ideas and to help the country. For as many times as McDonnell referenced Thomas Jefferson, how does he miss:

"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.

The measures are not reasonable now, so the minority should be diligent.

This is why I am not a Republican, because they have no teeth… They just sat there last night and agreed that America is great and puppies and rainbows are things they too can get behind.

I just emailed both of my Republican senators asking them to please stand up for the voters of Massachusetts, the American people and the rule of law and stop this blatant disregard of the rules of the Senate and the election laws of Massachusetts.

The slime ball was not put in office by the voters of Mass. he was a sneaky appointment job.

but said Republicans looking for an automatic vote against the Democrats should look elsewhere.
“I’m going to look at each issue, I’ve already made my intentions very, very clear,” Brown said. “I don’t owe anybody anything. There will be times when I will be with the leadership and there’ll be times when I won’t.”
Brown, who said he’s focused on getting sworn in by Feb. 11, also said it’s unlikely that he’ll help the many mid-term Republican candidates who have approached him due to his national appeal.
“A lot of people have approached me, but I told them, ‘Listen, with all due respect I don’t know you. I need to learn, we need to have a cup of coffee.’ I know people are trying to latch on to the popularity and notoriety, but I need to do my job first,’ ” Brown said. “On the scale of 1 to 10 it’s like a 20. It’s not even on my radar screen. … I’m going to be very particular as to who I help.”

There are many people who discount Governor Sarah Palin but here is her response to the SOTU:

While I don’t wish to speak too harshly about President Obama’s state of the union address, we live in challenging times that call for candor. I call them as I see them, and I hope my frank assessment will be taken as an honest effort to move this conversation forward.

Last night, the president spoke of the “credibility gap” between the public’s expectations of their leaders and what those leaders actually deliver. “Credibility gap” is a good way to describe the chasm between rhetoric and reality in the president’s address. The contradictions seemed endless.

He called for Democrats and Republicans to “work through our differences,” but last year he dismissed any notion of bipartisanship when he smugly told Republicans, “I won.”

He talked like a Washington “outsider,” but he runs Washington! He’s had everything any president could ask for – an overwhelming majority in Congress and a fawning press corps that feels tingles every time he speaks. There was nothing preventing him from pursuing “common sense” solutions all along. He didn’t pursue them because they weren’t his priorities, and he spent his speech blaming Republicans for the problems caused by his own policies.

The rest can be found at the following link: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=27183656...

All I have to say is Bravo!

not exactly sure what your reply has to do with this douche voting when he should not.

they should be slapping the dems on the ballsack! I dont care if they are looking to the future! I hope neither side ever has a super majority, all it does is empower crooked polititions who ignore the people and spend our money.

I'm thinking the Republican aren't complaining because they had rather allow the Democrats to totally own these bills. Still, they should raise their voices over this. And why hasn't Brown been seated, why should that take so long?

I agree with you. You crafted this comment very well. I just compared Obama's policies with that of California, he is following their script for disaster.

Productive people are leaveing California in droves, the business "climate" is stiffling jobs and companies to Nevada and Arizona. The idiots in Oregon JUST did the same thing California has been doing, raising taxes on "rich people" and companies, end results be damned.

You are totally on point about the Seirra Club and their drive to "green" us whether it makes sense or not, and with the irresponsible use of courts as mechanisms for "change", even if it's wrong.

Exactly. The ol' Left-Right shell game. What we need are those who put this country and its citizens FIRST. The people selling out this country aren't even bothering to hide much – they know nothing will happen. Geithner, Bernanke, Madoff, Bush and Carlyle and their wars for profit and Israel, the list goes on.

The GOP has enough Donkeys-In-Elephant-Suits in the Senate who want the Dems to be able to pass their agenda but do not want to go on record as being in favor. THAT is the primary problem with November 2010. Will there REALLY be any GOP candidates? Or will they all be on their knees looking for their chance to brew some black tea? Mmm, mmm, mmm!

heh, they can pass all the crap bills they want depriving Brown of the vote but if they touched health care repubs would be all sorts of bent, psssh spineless and weak.

The GOP is waiting on We the People and Fox News to force them to take action. They are, by and large, lazy and spoiled. They have had a free ride for way too long. I'm sure with all the eyes laser focused on them they are working harder than they ever intended to. They need to hear loud and clear that we will NOT continue "reminding" them of what they were elected to do. I know we need to stay informed and continue to be be diligent, but this has become like bugging teenagers to do the dirty dishes.

On top of this, didn't Reid announce that there would be no votes until Brown was seated? GOP… get out there and fight for us. Do not let this stand.

Everyone should know by now that LAWS, REGULATIONS and RULES do not apply to DEMOCRATS/STATISTS. They either do not abide by them or will change them to suit their NEEDS.

GOP is asleep at the wheel. The do not seem to understand that they must serve us or get the hell out of the way…

good blog!we know that it is not easy.

Agreed. Vote them all out. I just watched Brown on Leno. Everything is fun and games with these politicians. I pray I am wrong. I believe Brown is the Real Deal but articles in the local Boston paper's quoting him on various things has me very concerned. I one of the few (R) in Mass so I didn't have to many options. I guess he was able to kill the Heathcare bill in its current form without being in DC. Yet this vote to increase the debt ceiling is estimated to cost every American $45,000. Un believable.

Because it's still the GOP until the ones in the party now are kicked out. It seems to me all of these congressmen are just playing games, they don't take the citizens seriously.

I'm with you Mjd, it did not go unnoticed how many of the RINO's were on board last night to the side show of lie after lie, delivered by a president that say I instead of we. Everyone questions if he will ever 'get it', I say nope, he doesn't even hear it, it's all white noise to him, he has an agenda clear as day to anyone really hearing what he is saying – which btw, is all of us on this site. We the people – so simple isn't it! We will vote, in mass numbers I'm sure.

Absolutley. He has been in to long and is nothing but a Rhino. But according to sources he will be campaigning for him. I belive there is a real conservative running against him in Hayworth a supposed Scott Brown type I am hoping Brown in not in the same mold as that guy we won't mention. One of Brown's belief I thought was term limits.

The statists keep talking about "fairness" how fair is it to take money I've earned, then give it to someone who has not earned it, because that someone whines about how "unfair" life is to them.
That's not fair to me now is it?
Ragnar to Hank Rearden when he stops him on the road.
"Who is the most evil man?"
Answer: Robin Hood-but you already knew that did'nt you?
Take care

Bleh talk is cheap, it's his seat, watch the hands carefully, the mouth will lead you astray.

He has a long way to go to catch up to O'Bummer's 400+ TV appearances in a year.

However, he is getting the media spotlight right now, so if he squeeled a bit, it would get a lot of attention. It does p*ss me off that none of the other 40 senators has anything to say about this either.

I'm left wondering: Do our votes even count anymore? If the Democrats can disregard this election, what will stop them from disregarding the election in November?

This is sad. It seems we still have a spineless republican party and a new republican senator from Massachusetts who is probably just another rino weasel . Can we trust any of these bastards!?

Perhaps the ONLY caveat in all this – and this is still something that just doesn't match up to the cycle of collapse of great nation states through out history – (The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 230 plus or minus years.
Assyria (859-612 B.C.): a 247-year reign.
Persia (538-330 B.C.): a 208-year reign.
Greece (331-100 B.C.): a 231-year reign.
The Roman Republic (260-27 B.C.): a 233-year reign.
The Roman Empire (27 B.C.-180 A.D.): a 207-year reign.
The Arab Empire (634-880 A.D.): a 246-year reign.
The Mameluke Empire (1250-1517 A.D.): a 267-year reign.
The Ottoman Empire (1320-1570 A.D.): a 250-year reign.
Spain (1500-1750 A.D.): a 250-year reign.
Romanov Russia (1682-1916 A.D.): a 234-year reign.
Great Britain (1700-1950 A.D.): a 250-year reign.
The USA (1790-2009 A.D.): 219 years and counting.
Is that our current debt is over 12.3 TRILLION dollars and when you add in unfunded liabilities – it becomes early 120 TRILLION DOLLARS – It just begs the question – exactly what does the "winner" get???

With all due respect, Scott Brown has to run again in 2 years in the most liberal state in the country. So he has to appear to be an Independent caucusing with the Republicans. Unless, of course, Obamao makes things even worse than he already has in the next 9 months leading up to the midterm election and MA then swings further right.

What exactly do you expect the GOP to do about any of this? You DO realize that they don't have enough votes to stop anything at all, don't you? Honestly. Show a little intelligence and comprehension.

Hey, Scott…

I don't think you're displaying the "proper attitude", soldier…!

You had better be all assholes and elbows TOMORROW, or you will be historic yourself…as in post-mortem career historic…

What the voters give, the voters can damn well take away; and its hard to run a campaign on the .32 cents in your pocket…when your primary competition is reaping the rewards…

The leadership of the Republican Minority needs to STEP UP and not let this happen.

Who do you think is going to listen? The ones in charge? Please.

Did you read this whole thread? I read most of it and was shocked by the posts!

Yes, sadly, we are surrounded by a bunch of thoroughly ignorant idiots, who not only have NO idea how our government works, but want and expect politicians to do things that are perhaps not illegal, but impossible for them to do and yet, haved no respect for those doing the right things.

They either voted for Obama or voted for some fringe party candidate who had less than no chance of winning. Perhaps they just stayed home and didn't vote at all, since nobody is perfect enough for them to vote for.

And the guy who claims to have WORKED and voted for Brown appears to have never bothered to pay any attention to him, his record, nor anything else. Good grief……………….he, of all people, should have known Brown and what he was like! But maybe he was just an envelope stuffer, if that, and paid absolutely NO attention to anything else. *sigh*

Looking4Sanity I live in Illinois……..Nothing a Democrat does suprises me anymore……

Wait I take that back! If a Democrat ever actually made sense I'd be suprised………….but we both know that'll never happen…

[...] In Brown’s Seat Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:21 am Posted by Steven in National 0 Comments Big Government notes that, despite Republican Scott Brown’s decisive victory more than a week ago in winning the [...]

I am sure Eric Holder will step forward and advise Dingy Harry that something is wrong. Then again, I predicted snow here in Bangkok today.

If you are from Massachusetts than you should know he has to be certified after all the votes are tallied which takes approximately two weeks. (Of course, the Democratic machine that has ruled Massachusetts allowed Kennedy to be seated the next day after the election.) Sen-elect Brown has to be sworned in before he can vote. So if you are really disappointed, then you should address the Massachusetts congress (with the help of the Democratic Party) on why they are delaying this process.

An OUTRAGE in front of our eyes, yet AGAIN! These guys are gonna get what's coming to them…

God please help this country. See Below.

Brown warns GOP, don’t bully me
By Hillary Chabot | Thursday, January 28, 2010 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Local Politics
U.S. Sen.-elect Scott Brown vowed today not to toe the Republican Party line – saying he’d publicly shame the GOP if they try to bully him.
“I’m going to be my own person,” Brown told the Herald in his State House office today.
“I don’t believe they’re going to say, ‘If you’re not with us we’re going to hold these committee assignments,’ I think I’m going to be treated pretty fairly,” Brown said about his renegade status, adding he has no qualms about calling out any political arm-twisting.

Being that I am from MA, BLOOD IS SHOOTING FROM MY EYES!
It makes absolutely no sense that the GOP would not be contesting the votes everytime he participates since the MA Special Election. They have been VOTING NO AGAINST BO & THE DEMS RADICAL ANTI AMERICAN AGENDA, why would they not cry foul on this as well?

You know, I can't help but wonder if this isn't a preview of what is coming in November????

I may be way out in left field here, no pun intended. What are the statutes on enactment of legislation? Is it possible that the GOP is keeping quiet to avoid bribery w/ the intention of eradicating these results at a later date? Of course only applicable to any voting where his vote was necessary to pass the legislation.

I think the republicans shoulds sit back and let the dems do this. It gives them the voice they will need in november. Let the dems ruin them selves. I thought the rebublicans should of stayed home this last year. They should of not been in view during the health care votes either. If the dems are hell bent on killing this country, Let them take all the credit for it.

Let's face the facts. The Republicans are as pitiful as the Democrats. They all suck, and we are all the worse off for it.

The Democrats know the Republicans wouldn't do anything about it …

Any law that this guy voted on should be struck down as unlawful

That's true, they have done that once already.

Where is Scott Brown and where are the Republicans? Why do you not insist on him being seated? Last we heard from him, he was hoping to be seated this past Tuesday– and you are not kicking up a fuss? Where are our pals on talk radio, Michelle, Rushbo, Sarah, et al….Why wasn’t he at the Obama Fright night last evening? You got your sorry as** saved by him last week.
Out foxed for the last time!

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OMG! I said the same thing you said last night, after reading about the votes. I volunteered for Scott Brown because a friend convinced me too, but I stopped when I read an interview that he gave Roslindale's local paper. He was very arrogant. If you notice, everytime he says that he's an independant thinker, in the next breath he'll mention that the RNCC didn't give him any money. I believe he's independant for the rigfht price! He is allowing Kirk to vote to spite the GOP for not giving him money. He is in many ways just like Obama: he refuses to move on from the campaign, continuously complaining about not receiving any money, spending more time excersing than doing the people's work and last he's doesn't seem to understand the single most important reason people donated time and money to his campaign-to vote AGAINST the democrats. There is no such thing as "working" with Democrats. They are hell bent on destroying this country. A military officer serving in congress should know that!

It wouldn't matter. The Debt-ceiling vote was budgetary and only requires 51. They had 60 with Kirk.

I'm sorry, did you say "Republican leadership"? That's as much an oxymoron as "liberal Democrat" is a redundancy.

Dems have no ballsacks. Why do you think they are so pissed all the time?

There are rules in the Senate where just one Senator can delay a vote on legislation, and whether ultimately the vote takes place the Republicans could still point out that Kirk is no longer eligible to vote. Have you heard this anywhere but here?

The American people are angry about the Democrats ignoring the rule of law and the will of the people; Republicans need to continue to place a spotlight on acts such as these. With every vote taken, the Democrat Senate leadership are guilty of ignoring the rule of law and their own rules, and it needs to be known.

Email Mitch McConnell and kick his ass. I did. This is absolutely criminal.

Where's the lame stream media on this? Where's the outrage?

The Republicans are being smart here. The fact is this bill to raise the debt ceiling had to be passed. What are we going to do, default on what we owe? It is much better to have only Dems voting for it though. Letting them have their 60 votes lets them own it entirely, as someone has already pointed out. The Republicans aren't going to be against spending caps and Bernanke passed with 70 votes, so Brown's vote wouldn't have made the difference there.
I don't think the Dems are going to take any meaningful votes until Brown is seated (scheduled for Feb. 11), and the Republicans are playing it smart by not making a big deal out of nothing. I agree that ideally the law should be followed, but what are the Republicans options? Take the Dems to court? That has little chance of success because the courts try mightily to stay out of congressional procedure. About the only thing they could do is appeal to the public, but there will be no wide-spread public rage over these votes. The Republicans just won Ted Kennedy's seat for heaven's sake! There is little need whine unnecessarily now.

Kirk is still voting because Harry Reid said he could. Reid has decided that he is Lord Master of the senate, and to hell with rules, laws, or the Constitution. This whole damned senate needs to be voted out of office, if this cannot be be accomplished we take our guns and rope to Washington and solve the problem ourselves.

Nothing to see here, folks.
These are not the droids..er..uh..Senators you are looking for.

I agree. The Republican Senators WANTED the debt ceiling raised without having to cast a vote for it. Kirk gave them that cover. If it had not been raised, they would have to give up some of their earmarks.

They are choosing to IGNORE the rules.
Some might say they are picking the fights they can win.

What is Senator Brown saying about this usurpation of his prerogative, letting a appointed rather than an elected Senator vote when he's no longer qualified. I have seen nothing that says what his stance is on the matter, doesn't he care? Why is Senator Brown allowing this to happen?

Your post was right on til you showed your true colors and had to attack another poster.

Well, ya see, you've got RULES for Republicans, and then you have rules for Democrats. Nuance is everything.

Let's make this a major issue to void any of Paul Kirk's previous votes. This is not right, Why isn't Scott Brown seated? This is just another ridiculous Democratic wrong that will be dealt with in November, but send Kirk home.

I tweeted some GOP senators about this yesterday. So far the only one who's replied is John Cornyn

Maybe I'm gettin gmore jaded by the day, but I think the Republicans got exactly what they wanted. They WANT the debt ceiling raised, and this way they can let the Dems do it and fake disdain for fiscal irresponsibility later. It frankly, makes me sick.

i love that people complain brown hasn't been seated yet while the block on obama's appointees continue. delicious hypocrisy. but, of course, it's only unamerican if it doesn't agree with YOU'RE ideology, irrespective of the populace.

I agree with you! Also why hasn't Scott Brown contested? Linda

jar – I think or I would hope it is more about violating the rules of the state of Mass., rules of the Senate, and violates the 17th amendment of the Constitution. I also suspect that had everything been reversed – with the Republicans holding the super majority in both houses and a Democratic candidate pulled a similar upset, we'd likely see the SAME scenario being played out.

Err, it's called a "Point of Order" and it would have put the issue on hold until the Senate ruled on the issue.

It's quite clear; Senate rules, as the article points out, mean that Senator Kirk is no longer Senator Kirk, and wasn't the moment Coakley conceded on January 19th.

For him to still be voting on legislation frankly puts everything currently voted on in jepoardy — IF the Republicans grow a pair and actually do something about it.

The fact, however, is this: Republicans didn't want to stop the debt ceiling limit from being raised, but they DID all want to say they were on record as voting against it. Allowing non-Senator Kirk to continue voting simply gave them cover, but I GUARANTEE you if he wasn't there, at least one Republican would have voted for it.

This is politics at its worst, and yes, I know precisely how the Government is currently working, and I also know precisely how it is supposed to work — and they are NOT the same.

Which is why they ALL have to go in November.

He's referring to the RSCC who didn't really support him or give him money until the last minute. In other words, their money and "support" wasn't waht got him elected.

Personally, even if I don't agree with some of the decisions he'll make regarding the way he votes, at least he's standing on his principles. We need more people like this in D.C.

Is this against the law, how about follow up by the FBI?

Get real people – and read your Constitution while you're at it. Until Brown is recognized and seated in the Senate he isn't officially a Senator and he doesn't get to vote. Don't blame Kirk – don't blame the Democrats – blame Brown. It's his choice as to when he shows up and becomes a Senator. And MASS gets to keep their representation whether he's there or not – so Kirk gets to vote until Brown does show up.

Thank you for addressing this issue Ms. Hiller! I asked this question last night in response to the news that the debt ceiling had been raised on clear partisan lines – 60 Democrats for it and 40 Republicans against it. If Mr. Brown had been seated, this might not have happened.

I don't understand why the Republicans are not raising hell? And why isn't Scott Brown complaining?

They should be raising hell and the fact that they aren't is very disturbing.

Yes, another couple minutemen or hundreds of thousands.

i have Read this entire post and was beginning to get worried.

Thank you Political Lies for the correct explanation of our parliamentary procedures.

You have restored my confidence that there are still enough smart people in this country so that we can dissect the truth.

Here now is the political side to this

Folks if this were 46 years ago and the Republicans were in charge and were about to take a very crucial vote on a matter the Democrats were so deadly opposed and a young Democrat had just been elected to fill out a term from Massachusetts.

Who does not believe that this nice young senator would not have been seated in order to vote to stop or at least delay this bill.

Scott Brown, I hope the reason you were not there was because your truck broke down on your way to DC.

Come on Carol.

Please, no… "party of the first part party of the second part" … nonsense. Counting the ballets is an issue when the vote is plus or minus a percentage point, not 7%.

How long did it take Teddy to get seated.

We need to scream and scream LOUD!!! Write Michael Steel,Beck, Hannity, Mr. O' and your representatives. These are illegitimate votes. If Brown hasn't yet been certified , then they should have NO vote in Ma. Kirks seat ends immediately upon the election date……….. One more thing that STINKS to HIGH HEAVEN….. The scum bags. Brown and the republicans should be in their faces on this, NOW.

I was also wondering why Senator Kirk is still voting. The only thing that makes sense is Republicans wanted the debt ceiling to be raised without any Republicans voting for it. Long past time for term limits!

bulldust troll. You did nothing for Brown. You are a DNC plant.

oops another troll. Shall we break this one down? Not at all convincing with the comments. How much are you getting paid by DNC operatives?

Another DNC troll….. please prove that you are not being paid by the DNC to cause mischief.

however, the role ended at the election. Kirk should not be in the Senate and he should not be voting. It is not legal.

that is a stupid comment. Political appointees are not elected officials… they are appointments and they need to be confirmed.

I have noted that most nominees have been confirmed after it has been shown that they have a clean record. Those nominees that have been held up have been among other things tax cheats and various kinds of felons.

On the other hand, this same group of Dhimmicrats have held up appointments to the Supreme Court using filibuster methods….. it is where the term "borked" originated.

So I suppose you trust the republican party machine? Well I sure in hell don't. Both these party's can't be trusted. I have good reason be leery of the republicans. True the present party in power is a nightmare but it is in power in the first place because of the previous pathetic performance of the republican party I used to put my faith in.

TROLL

Who decided on February 11th for the date Mr. Brown will be sworn in? and
how many more bills will the dems try to push through before he is in office?
Where are the tea party voices on this? I for one am going to call my senator. Hope everyone
does the same.

[...] (On a related note, Democrats needed 60 votes to pass this increase and Sen. Paul Kirk (D-MA) provided one of those votes, despite Senate rules and Massachusetts law saying his term expired last Tuesday. So why did he vote?) [...]

Carol,

I am extremely happy that Mass. has elected Scott Brown. My wife, daughter and I all held signs went to his rally in North Andover and are huge fans of his and hope he could become the next President of the US. I understand that it is up to the Mass (Galvin) to certify the election and reid (twit) to seat him. I am frustrated though, that with all the power or political stardum that he gained he did not use it to push his seating or make it aware to the public that this POS Kirk is still voting on major legislation that will affect this country. For all the hard work that he di to get elected he could go a little bit further and say something on Leno, instead he is on the defense about being bullied by his "Republican" colleagues. I have voted Republican my whole and will continue. I have never seen a democrat I could vote for and believe i will. That is all I am saying.

No Ozzie I have never voted for a demi and never will. They disgust me. I just do not understand why he didn't make it known that Kirk was voting for legislation after Brown was elected which was supposedly not allowed after Brown had been elected not certified.

Ozzie,

That is what I am saying. Why isn't Brown putting up a fight. HNow he is on Baba Wawa Sunday Morning. I agree with some of the other posts letting the dems take the heat for raising the debt limit but he should have played the media a little more to show just how corrupt the senate is and mass. gov is.

He never will. You have to become active in the RNC then you can chew him a new one and better yet run against him in the primary…you don't have to campaign just get your name on the ballot!

No we need to add more members in congress dilute their power. Wait a minute Article 1 Section 2 US Constiution says we are supposed to have 10,000 congressional districts by now! Remember there were just 65 in the beginning and yet it stopped at 435 in 1912 the same year as the Federal Reserve, IRS (16th) and 17th (Direct Elections of US Senators). Always vote out the incumbent no matter what!

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So, what's the hold up or what's the problem? Why is this guy voting if he's been voted out. Will the bills have to be revoted or will they stand.

Clearly you know far less about the way the govt. works than you think you do.

Budget items require 60 votes for cloture the same as anything else. Just because it's a budget item doesn't change anything.

What you are referring to is reconcilliation, that can only be applied to items that negligibly affect the budget in a negative way.

Oh, and reconcilliation can only be used ONCE per budget cycle. I very much doubt Reid & co. would blow their reconcilliation wad on raising the freakin' debt limit.

Now, pick up a book on the government, and lean how it actually works.

(I should have known that a GOP shill doesn't actually have a clue how anything works. Hmm, maybe I should have just stopped at "doesn't actually have a clue" …)

Yes you did, although you didn't use the word.

Reconcilliation is the ONLY way 51 votes are required, either as reconcilliation of a House-Senate conference where the House adopts a Senate bill with ZERO changes (even a single word required a cloture vote first), or through budget reconcilliation which, as I pointed out, can only be used once in a budget cycle.

Look, at this point you're making yourself look like an idiot because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

And your insuslts make me think you're maybe not a GOP shill, but a liberal/progressive/communist infiltrator, because real conservatives don't stoop to personal attacks. (You managed 4 of them in 41 words.)

The more I hear from and about this guy, the more I like him. Very independently minded in a closed-shop two-party system. He sees that the parties serve themselves first, before they serve the people. That needs to change — more people like Palin and Brown, please! And we need some like them in the Democrat party as well. Or a strong new independent movement *cough*teaparty*cough* that can keep the partys' excesses in check.

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