Poker Group Elated Following Overwhelmingly Positive Reception at CPAC
by Rich MunyThe Poker Players Alliance — a million-member strong grassroots organization that defends poker rights — cosponsored the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) for the second consecutive year. Poker players, still reeling over past efforts to ban online and other forms of poker, have been actively reaching out to conservatives for support for their right to play, and cosponsorship of CPAC is part of this outreach effort. They were pleased at their reception at this year’s event and feel support for their position within the broader conservative movement will continue to increase.
Displaying the confidence that a year of solid wins on Capitol Hill has earned them, the PPA went to CPAC ready to take on the dwindling minority who would ban poker as well as those who believe poker rights ought not be a conservative concern. They came armed with handouts on why principled conservatives ought to oppose a big government prohibition on online poker, copies of pro-poker articles by George Will, Walter Williams, and Jacob Sullum, free t-shirts, and 2004 World Poker Champion Greg Raymer, who was on hand to sign autographs.

2004 World Poker Champion Greg Raymer at CPAC
They also showed off the alliances they have with many within the conservative movement, including FreedomWorks, CPAC straw poll winner Rep. Ron Paul (video of Rep. Paul backing PPA’s position), and Americans for Tax Reform.

ATR’s Grover Norquist Visiting the PPA Booth, with PPA Grassroots Director Drew Lesofski
Attendees were very supportive of the agenda of the poker group. PPA Executive Director John Pappas said hundreds of attendees stopped by to offer their support, while only one person expressed opposition. Pappas further stated that poker players have sent hundreds of thousands of letters to Congress in support of their rights, an amount that often eclipsed issues like health care and banking reform.
Following the events of the first day, PPA, BigGovernment.com, and Americans for Tax Reform co-hosted what Time called the “coolest” party of CPAC. Held at Medaterra, a restaurant within walking distance of CPAC, it included Andrew Breitbart, Michael Flynn, James O’Keefe, Grover Norquist, and Greg Raymer. Time reported that the open bar got quite a workout. From the event:

Andrew Breitbart and me

Michael Flynn and me

James O’Keefe and me
The second day was equally positive for the poker rights group. 100% of attendees who stopped by the PPA booth that morning were supportive of the group’s agenda. Then, a college-age attendee from Focus on the Family — who advocate for a national prohibition of all forms of poker (online, card rooms, home games, etc.) – stopped by the booth. Expecting opposition, I asked him for a comment. Requesting anonymity, he told me that he supports the right to play poker but supports Focus on the Family in other matters. Curious, I went to the Focus on the Family booth and asked the two youthful (under 40) representatives there if they personally wished to ban poker. They replied, each with a smile, “no comment.”
Unlike older social conservative leaders who grew up in progressive eras and who seem to cling to their belief that big government can bring about positive changes to society, perhaps younger social conservatives are learning from their experiences with the problems caused by big government. One imagines that they have seen the corrupting impact of big government and that they would rather protect values from big government than entrust big government with them. Only time will tell.






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Excellent line Mr. Muny!
"One imagines that they have seen the corrupting impact of big government and that they would rather protect values from big government than entrust big government with them."
the best table there had the Maverick boys, Brett, Bart, and cousin Beau from England…
Oh. Wrong poker conference.
You mean Obama wants to ban poker? Is this before, or after he destroys Las Vegas?
Inquiring minds need to know…
Poker and GOPride. There is a joke in there somewhere.
I'd LOVE to get in a poker game with teabaggers.
Where do I find a game?
If you want to play poker you should be able to. Free market and personal responsibility should reighn. By the way, the FULL HOUSE that Nancy Pelosi holds is about to be trumped by a royal flush. Cue toilet sound!
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That was a great party, Rich. I had a blast and was happy to see PPA at CPAC again this year.
Ya just hit a home run zippy.
Anyone can play poker. It is the GAMBLING on it that is the issue. Maybe if you lose you should be reimbursed by the tax payers. That is what happened to certain gamblers who bet on derivatives.
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Funny.
Folks want to prohibit poker.
Didn't they do that once before, with alcohol?
What next? Sex only with a government permission slip?
Hey dipshit, anyone with half a brain ( obviously not you ) knows I meant gambling. And the banking industry issues are completely aside from this. In poker you are gambling with your OWN money. If you lose too bad.
Joker in the deck
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Thanks! Glad you could make it.
IMO, if I play poker in my own home with my own money, it's my business. It's hard to see how someone could back a federal online poker prohibition and then claim not to back big government in other areas.
Thanks! I'm glad many others are seeing the logic of limited government.
Capitalism stimulates the human brain which in turn stimulates a society!
Socialism decays the human brain which in turn decays a society!
I love my country, I fear my government.
Don't give me any encouragement, or get me on my soapbox. I'll have your ears ringing with quotes from Jefferson, Goldwater and Reagan.
We are living in scary times.
That wouldn't technically be called a reimbursement. That would be called a "Bailout". Wouldn't it?
Dammit, Cowboy ! Ya owe me a new wireless keyboard…. That's the second time this week I have sprayed a Perfect VO Manhatten all over the damned thing…. You are getting expensive….
Funny!
What woodpile did you find that in?
Online poker sounds like a great capitalist idea. I get that winnings need to be taxed, but an all out ban seems Chavez'y
Unfortunately, it's some within the conservative movement who wish to. Those of us who believe in limited government were too quiet, so many lawmakers thought the banners spoke for all of us. I'm glad many of us are finally speaking up to say "no" to big government.
I play quite a bit of online poker. I am one of the few, long-term winners (ranking in the top 10% of players). However, I can absolutely declare that the PokerStars site has a faulty shuffling algorithm, and possibly even a faulty (rigged) dealing program. As I said, I win on that site, but after several thousand tournaments, with anywhere from 100 to several hundred hands per tournament, I have noted trends that defy randomness. I'm convinced that the PS site, and perhaps all of the online sites, reward bad play. That is, bad play results in winning hands more than it should. You may ask how that benefits the site.
The site makes money from entry fees, and "rake" in cash games. If the deck, and dealing, was purely random, bad players would quickly lose all their money, and the site would not get as many entry fees and hand rakes from them. But by "allowing" them to win more than they should, they get to play with their money longer, resulting in more entry fees/rakes going to the site.
I wish I had a few million dollars to start a totally legitimate online poker site, or better yet, I wish someone else did. Word would spread and they would become the only site anybody would play on (at least the half-way decent players; I guess the "donkeys" would still play on the rigged sites, because they do get to play longer there (it just costs me a bigger cut))
When I got out of the service in 67, I started feeding horses heavy….it delayed my entering into college for three years.
Stopped gambling all together after that bad experience…. unfortunately………
I still have not been able to stop wasting my hard earned money…
that race track in DC is brutal…. them odds,… they are against you.
LMAO. I think Cowboy would be great at a party and everyone should stay a fair distance from you….I can't stop laughing.
Glad to oblige!
Sworry.
Hate to break it to you, its the liberals that spend their time with balls in their mouths. I value your right to comment, but the "teabagger" term is so 2009.
I've not noticed anything like this, but legislation to license online poker does include verification of random number generators. It also provides for inspections and verification.
Only if you had a government physical exam and Obama's blessing, although I do believe he would rather bless a Donald Young union because you, being a conservative would only propagate your conservative ideals.
Winnings do not have to be taxed if you reside in a state with no state taxes.
I disagree with this as well. Poker is a game of high variance, and bad players win sometimes. That's why they keep playing. Site have no need to turn poker into a high variance game — it already is one.
My grandfather taught me to play poker when I was about 6 or 7 years old. I learned to bet in high school at a friend's weekly penny poker games.
In the end, it's just a game; a game that people can take much too far, but people can get obsessive about anything. Gambling certainly doesn't have a corner on that market.
As for soc-cons who would ban it. I'll bet there isn't a one of them that didn't "bet" their friends over something at one time or another.
heresy you say, man!
What is a military man supposed to do whiling away the time? Go 'fish'? Or perhaps Bridge? This is the silliest thing we've ever heard. No true conservative is against poker; for life is a game of chance anyway.
Like poker, no guaranteed outcomes…
I wish. There's still the federal income tax.
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Gambling is a vice, no different than drug addiction. It's bad enough that in Democrat controlled States gambling has been legalized. I worked for a mafia crew servicing their poker machines and I've seen the corruption it causes. Payoffs to corrupt Democrat DA's for protection and the money raised by these machines used to traffic cocaine. I was sickened to see bar patrons sitting on stools in front of these machines pouring in rolls of quarters in the vain hope of a big payout. The machines were rigged. Set to payout well at first to draw in the suckers and then over time the odds were tightened more and more. It's a scam fools, don't you get it? This isn't about Capitalism, it's about moral corruption. Shame on Big Gov't for letting Muny spread his disease here.
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When they dump the money on the table at the poker championships, the libs get a chubby.
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Mikatollah! Welcome back buddy! Thought maybe we made you cry one too many times. Glad you had the guts to come back though. Look just because we shoot down your socialist arguments doesn't mean you ahve to keep using the "teabagger" compliment. Tell us how you really feel about getting teabagged all the time. The truth shall set you free!
There will be a admission charge. It's negotiable.
Bring your wife over and we'll "dicker"…
You (and your money) are welcome anytime. You are also welcome to leave at anytime (but your money will stay with us).
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LOL. Shame on you for your fear mongering in hopes of bigger government to control things YOU don't like. When people like you want bigger government, we all have to listen to the corruption and addiction lies. You all cry wolf every time poker or gaming comes up. Then, when things get legalized and the dire predictions don't come true (after all, how many times have communities with legal gaming changed course?), you all just quietly move on and cry wolf when another jurisdiction seeks gaming.
So, since you claim to have witnessed all these crimes, what did you do about it? Given that you claim to have been "sickened", what did you do??? Did you report any of this? Sorry, but the truth is that every state has a gaming commission to monitor things like what you mentioned.
Also, online poker will occur if you like it or not. It's available in all fifty states, and many play. These players don't just play — they vote. They used to remain quiet while people like you called and wrote to lawmakers with crazy stories like that. This is no longer the case. Poker player are speaking up — loudly and clearly.
Poker players don't require your permission to play poker. Also, poker is no vice. Poker is an honorable activity played by generals, Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices, and everyday Americans.
Tell TheRightSide he should know better than that by now. Take a sip, swallow, put it down, read and repeat… Cleaned my keyboard twice before I figured it out.
Possibly the funniest response I have ever read. I read it and heard his voice as I was doing so! Wicked funny…
If I get taxed on my winnings, can I also write off my losses? LIMITED government means not always getting a cut of the action…
Yes, back in my gambling days, I filed a Schedule C to file my losses.
That was my response, that somehow got eaten by the spam monster. I used to pay taxes, on the spot, or by 1099 on any winnings over $1199. Gambling is a job to many, and I get that it should be taxed.
Remember the old Garth Brooks song, that put him on the map? "Friends in Low Places"? Thats me.
Let's go line by line:
"Gambling is a vice, no different than drug addiction."
Poker is a game of skill. It's not "gambling" as the term is defined under most state laws. It's no vice, as I mentioned above. Also, you guys love to pretend poker is highly addictive (to give you an excuse to prohibit it), when that's not reality.
"It's bad enough that in Democrat controlled States gambling has been legalized."
LOL. Nice attempt to pigeonhole poker rights as a liberal issue. Sorry, but poker is lawful in many Republican states, too. In fact, gaming of some sort is lawful in 48 states. Only Utah and Hawaii ban all commercial gaming.
Federally, many Republicans in Congress support our right to play. It's a freedom issue. It's funny hwo angry you guys get about OTHER PEOPLE playing poker and wishing to rush in with big government to the rescue. How are you any different from a big government liberal who believes government knows best?
"I worked for a mafia crew servicing their poker machines"
Really? Perhaps you ought not work for the mafia.
"…and I've seen the corruption it causes. Payoffs to corrupt Democrat DA's for protection and the money raised by these machines used to traffic cocaine."
So, you're talking about unlawful gaming (and, LOL at again making it a liberal issue). Guess what? The problems you mentioned were cause by prohibition, not by gaming itself. It's much like the original Prohibition — the one on alcohol. Alcohol didn't cause gang violence and the rise of Al Capone. Prohibition did.
"I was sickened to see bar patrons sitting on stools in front of these machines pouring in rolls of quarters in the vain hope of a big payout. The machines were rigged. Set to payout well at first to draw in the suckers and then over time the odds were tightened more and more."
That's not an issue with licensing. It would likely not be an issue with a free market approach, either. Rather, it's a problem created by prohibition.
"It's a scam fools, don't you get it? This isn't about Capitalism, it's about moral corruption."
We're talking about poker, not slots. Too bad you need to tarnish one with the other.
I have an idea. If you want people to be more moral, try going to your fellow man with a message for them to follow. Too bad people like you think you know best and think the rest of need government to protect us from ourselves.
"Shame on Big Gov't for letting Muny spread his disease here."
The only disease I'm spreading is liberty.
Yes. Professional gamblers (the IRS term) pay taxes on their net win for the year. Amateurs simply sum winning sessions and declare that total as income. Then they sum their losing sessions and deduct that amount, up to the amount of the winnings, as "gambling losses."
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Baloney. I play on PokerStars every day. I've not seen anything that makes me think it's not on the level. And besides – there is no motive for PokerStars to not insure they are on the up and up. If players figure out they can't trust a site, they won't play there. PokerStars gets a rake on all of it's games, and could care less who wins and who loses.
Rich, you are right on the money there. If there were no bad beats, the poor players would quit chasing their long shot hands. Bob Smith doesn't know what he's talking about. I do see people complaining on the site about the same kinds of things (in the chat window), and these folks tend to be not nearly as good as they think they are. When they start making those comments I target them…..easy money.
I speak for Cowboy (hopefully).. You would be welcome anytime…..heh..heh..heh… Conservatives are a likeable group arent they ?? I cannot imagine Cowboy and I at same soiree…OMG… Trouble for hours…and laughs to no end..:)
Look in you hand dillweed. That isn't a poker.
Something about blind squirrels, I think. Gotta give him his props when they're due though…
I'm with Cowboy. I personally don't give two hoots about poker or any other form of gambling, but that doesn't mean the government has any right messing with it.
I'm just more and more disgusted with politicians on both sides of the aisle.
LOL…….naughty…….very naughty……but HILARIOUS!!!!
Mommy! Look at all the white people!
One speaker called it the "Conservative Woodstock". But unlike the first one, "our women are beautiful." Apparently this freak has a thing for Phyllis Schlafly.
So I guess the writing is on the wall; the Democrats are going to get hammered on Election Day, right? I wouldn't be too sure about that. There are far too many monkey wrenches that are ready to be thrown into this engine. The most amusing thing to observe during the CPAC festiviities last Thursday was their subtle attempt to disassociate themselves from the so-called "Tea Party Movement" without flatly rejecting it. What is going on here?
Here's what's going on: The cooler heads within the Republican National Committee know damned well that the Tea Partiers are a ticking time bomb just waiting to explode. It's not merely the fact that most of these people are dumber than doggy dung, it is also the ugly reality that so much (although not all) of that movement is based on the nasty philosophy that has embodied the white supremacist movement for decades. You could hear it in the remarks made by the protesters at the September 12, "March on Washington". You could see it in the signs they carried. Most of these twits refuse to even acknowledge the fact that the president of the United States is an American citizen!
Like Neville Chamberlain appeasing der fuhrer at the Munich conference in 1938, the RNC is frantically searching for a "peace in our time" moment. They have quite a dilemma before them to be sure. On the one hand they need to keep these knuckleheads "inside the tent pissing out" – so to speak. On the other hand they have to avoid alienating the moderates. Like the demented uncle living in the attic, they must do everything humanly possible to make sure that any contact with the neighborhood kids is limited if you know what I mean.
The Tea Party people are already claiming credit for Scott Brown's victory in Massachusetts a couple weeks ago. They are determined to steer the course of the GOP in November, come hell or high water. If they are allowed control of the party, their extremism will only turn off a huge segment of the voting population. If they are denied that opportunity, they will splinter off into third and even fourth party uprisings. Have you ever watched an elephant try to walk a tightrope? It's more fun than a barrel of donkeys!
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You use a lot of words to say nothing. Your attacks are the equivalent of Jr high depth of understanding.
Cowboy, it might have been a good idea if some of
these trolls parents had to get permission…Maybe
we would have less liberal idiots….lol
What were your thoughts on the Million Man March?
All the best guys…..Good luck…
Well, they do still enforce prohibition against many substances. Not to mention, if a grown man wants to pay a grown woman to fiddle his willy, they could both go to jail!! Where's the sense in that, I ask ya? I mean, most "relationships" have that premise in play anyway. Man wants nookie . . . woman doesn't want to give nookie for free . . . so she gets gifts, fancy dinners, trips to the theatre, etc etc, before she will do the deed. Why isn't THAT illegal?
It's the same reasoning against prohibition of drugs. If you legalize it, you can keep an eye on it. Right now, a prostitute can't go to the police and say "My pimp is beating me every day." If it were legal, she'd be able to escape that situation.
I'm sure this comment will cause a shitstorm, but that's just the way I see it.
Nah.
No shitstorm. What you just described has been around for a long time. It is called marriage……….
Absolutely! Too bad there are still people who think they know better than we do. It's even worse that they think big government ought to force their opinions on us.
What kind of Democratic confrences is the PPA sponsoring? Or is the PPA proclaiming itself as a 'conservative' organization? Why is the money I'm donating being used to support a group, 'conservatives', who were the ones that passed the UIGEA, and continue to block progress on legislation legalizing online gambling. Is this all simply because 'The Engineer' is clerly an avid Ron Paul supporter? I'm seriously withdrawing my membership if the PPA is trying to help pass laws by siding with the minority party. The PPA is starting to look just like every other 'special interest' group, and has this member wondering if their looking out for ALL poker players interests, or just their own.
And of course, you need to count several hundred hands to get a reasonable sample set.
many of the online sites have a large variety of poker games. I'm pretty sure 5-card draw is an option, but you might have to wait a long time before enough people want to play, if its a tourney.
Were my replies about the flush flops at PS removed? I saw that 4 replies were listed a minute ago, and now it's back to the two I saw before adding another comment. What's up?
Yep! Nice job! The PPA has no credibility!
If I make the final table, I'll be sure to mention your name too!
LOL. I am not a moderator here on BigGovernment.com, so I am not able to censor none of your comments. That's yet one more conclusion you jumped to with no evidence.
Also, you're not the first one to whine about bad beats by blaming "rigged" software. My favorite one is how you are still a winning player, so it's only rigged to make it slightly more variable. That makes no sense. So, where is your statistical analysis showing evidence of non-random card distribution??? Oh…you're saying this is based on observation and hunches alone? LOL.
Show the proof and post it to Two Plus Two so we can analyze it. Otherwise, it's just whining.
If you don't like specific sites, then don't play them. The free market at work.
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I'm with you Mr. Muny. Absolutely!
It's there, two posts up. Wow, you sure are one to jump to conclusions.
Would you ban smoking, alcohol, drinking caffeinated products, dancing, cheming gum and swearing since there are people who consider all those activies vices? St. Thomas Aquinas wrote, to paraphrase, if every immoral activity was banned by law then people, being sinful, would lose all respect for the law.
good luck with your agenda.
I hate Texas hold'em. I wish i could find someone who still played 5 card draw.
Thanks again for your reply both here and via Twitter.
I understand your comments, and now agree that all groups should be engaged in the debate. However, I find it disheartning that branding something 'liberal' automatically means 'conservatives' will oppose it. This is NOT how Democracy was intended to work. This IS a liberal/libertarian issue, but that doesn't neccessairly mean it's bad, or even 'anti-conservative'. The political divide in this country is worsening every day, as evident that I get a thumbs down rating for asking a legitimate question. Many other countries (UK, Japan, Canada, etc) have Liberal parties (i.e. The Liberal Party of Austrailia) that are considered conservative. I admit, I'm guilty of this too, reacting negatively when I hear the PPA is sponsering a 'conservative' event.
Bob. You and I think alike. please, let's talk some time about online poker. http://www.gopapoker.com
Here is a simple way to verify what I am saying is true. Flush flops, where three of the same suit appear on the flop, should happen by random chance about 1 in every 19 hands. At PS, it's about one in 12 (maybe even more frequent than that). Just keep a sheet of all the flops, and count how many of them are flush flops. That alone proves that the PS shuffling algorithm is crooked.
And as to why the site would do this; I answered it above. Why should anyone expect a completely unregulated business to operate totally on the up-and-up if they can tweak it a little to increase their profits even more?
Here's another one. Dominated hands (pre-flop all in showdowns) should only win about 30% of the time, but on PS, it is higher (but I haven't done the hand counts on that).
As a nonpartisan group, it is important that PPA develop support on both sides of the aisle. Nonpartisanship is a central tenet of the PPA. Poker needs conservative votes, liberal votes, and libertarian votes to win. If poker gets branded a liberal/libertarian issue like marijuana reform has been, conservative lawmakers will oppose poker because they think they are supposed to. Those who would otherwise support poker would find themselves unable to, out of fear of being portrayed as moderates or RINOs (Republicans in Name Only). Poker players need to do all they can to make their case to conservatives to keep that from happening. Part of that is being at CPAC.
Get a life you metrosexual, if not fully homosexual, liberal! You are too easily swayed by your liberal MSM prophets! I went to a teapart demonstration in downtown Manhattan, and your stereotyping is pretty funny. I respect some liberals intentions, but what is laughable is that anyone could think the Federal government is the way to accomplish what they want done. Even the most mindless liberal initiatives would have more success if done privately, but wait, no private group would fund those initiatives, would they, so your only hope is that the Federal government will leech everyone to do it for you.
Well Rich, I suspect that Poker Stars funds the PPA, and thus the reason for censuring some of my comments about that site.
One of my fantasys is to get to the final table of the WSOP, just so I would have a public platform to blast Poker Stars.
The PPA backs licensing of sites offering poker in the US. If you want RNG verification and legal remedies for issues with sites, you should support the PPA. Without PPA, you'll have either the current sites only, or you'll have no sites. If your goal is "no sites," then don't play. In your world, there will be no sites, and you won't even require a big government prohibition to attain it.
Show us the data, then.
Also, if you don't like it, then you should support efforts like license the game, like the ones PPA supports. I don't understand why you express problems with the status quo, then complain about efforts to fix it. Perhaps you don't understand what PPA is doing.
No problem. Likewise, thanks for taking the time to read my column and to comment on it.
"I find it disheartning that branding something 'liberal' automatically means 'conservatives' will oppose it."
So do I. Unfortunately, that's how it is, and PPA must deal with political realities. A good example is the medical marijuana issue. It's been thoroughly branded a libertarian/liberal issue, and conservative lawmakers find it difficult to support. PPA can't let that happen it its cause.
"This IS a liberal/libertarian issue, but that doesn't neccessairly mean it's bad, or even 'anti-conservative'."
Not really. PPA contends that the big government ideas advocated by those opposed to poker rights ought to be opposed by conservatives as well. It seems this is gaining traction. Look at the support the PPA position enjoys here.
IMO, the reality is that any group like PPA must make its case across the board.
"…as evident that I get a thumbs down rating for asking a legitimate question."
In fairness, this is a conservative site. If I made a post on DailyKos suggesting that liberals ought not be engaged in an issue, the same would happen.
Finally, please check out my other columns. You'll see that I call out many big government politicians — without regard to party.
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You mean Obama wants to ban poker? Is this before, or after he destroys Las Vegas?
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