The Recession and Government Failure: More Evidence for ‘Regime Uncertainty’
by Robert HiggsOn August 24, I posted some data and analysis on yield curves for high-grade corporate bonds since the beginning of 2008, seeking to determine whether changes in these curves are consistent with the hypothesis that the current economic crisis has given rise to regime uncertainty. If it has done so, the yield curves should display increased spreads between the period immediately before the financial panic in the latter part of 2008 and the period since mid-2009, when the extraordinary volatility of the bond markets had ceased.

A reader of this post, Chris Lemens, commented: “I would imagine that, if the yield curves for both private and federal bonds moved similarly, that would mainly tell us about inflationary expectations, not regime uncertainty. (Well, inflation is a kind of regime uncertainty, but you know what I mean.)”
Here, I respond to Lemens’s comment, which raises an important issue, inasmuch as economists commonly interpret a steepening of the yield curve as indicative of increased inflationary expectations and nothing else.
First, one should appreciate, as Lemens does, that changes in expectations about future inflation may themselves reflect changes in regime uncertainty. If, for example, bond traders came to expect a transformation of government policies that would entail a substantial further attenuation of private property rights, they would also be likely to expect that in the future the rulers who preside over the new economic (dis)order will find themselves in serious economic trouble. (Economies without fairly firm private property rights do not work well.) Perhaps the most time-honored of all government actions to escape from such difficulties is the issuance of more and more new money, to be used sooner or later to pay the government’s bills; and the virtually inevitable consequence of such large-scale monetary effusion is a rising rate of general price inflation for newly produced goods and services, along with a diminished rate of real economic growth, perhaps even economic contraction.
So, increased regime uncertainty may give rise to increased inflationary expectations.
But increased inflationary expectations may also occur in a context of substantial certainty with regard to the persistence of the existing economic order. Traders may expect that the government’s actions will lead to a greater rate of price inflation simply because the government (that is, its central bank) is adopting an easier-money policy, not because the government will pose a substantially greater threat to private property rights across the board in the future than it does now. In light of these realities, we must be careful about how we try to tease from the yield-curve data a distinction between increased inflationary expectations per se and increased regime uncertainty.
To pursue this inquiry, I have constructed bond yield curves (again using the data and the graphing tools available at Bondsonline.com) for U.S. Treasury securities, creating the same comparisons by term to maturity that I examined for corporate bonds in my previous post. These graphs are shown at the end of this post. The Treasury spreads show a number of important differences with the corporate spreads.
First, most notably, the Treasury yields have neither the extreme volatility nor the yield curve inversions that the corporate yields display between September 2008, when the financial panic developed, and mid-2009, when it subsided. All of the Treasury bonds examined here (2 years, 5 years, 10 years, and 20 years to maturity) show substantial drops in effective yield in the final months of 2008, as traders scrambled for the imagined security and liquidity of U.S. government securities during the crisis, bidding up their prices and hence depressing their yields. From the beginning of 2009 onward, however, Treasury yields returned to more or less their previous levels, although at the shortest maturities, the Treasuries continued to yield much less than they had before the panic. The 2-year bond has yielded a steady 1 percent since the end of 2008, even less in recent months. The yield on the 5-year bond has also tailed off substantially in the past six months or so.
On the Treasuries with longer terms to maturity, the post-crisis persistence of approximately the same yield as before the crisis suggests that traders now expect no greater inflation than they did before the panic. Data for real yield on TIPS (Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities)―bonds that pay interest and principal adjusted for changes in the price level―show increased yields for a few months beginning with the crisis in September 2008. But after January 2009, these yields returned to more or less the level they had maintained before the crisis. The fact that the nominal yields on longer-term Treasuries, relative to the yield on TIPS of corresponding maturities, were no higher after the crisis had subsided also suggests that traders have not adjusted their inflationary expectations upward in the wake of the crisis.
Unlike the corporate bond spreads, the spreads for Treasuries did not become uniformly greater from mid-2009 onward. The yield curve steepened at the lower end, but this change reflects almost entirely the reduction in the 2-year bond’s yield, inasmuch as the longer term bonds examined here all returned to approximately the yield they had established before the panic. Spreads on longer-term bonds against the 5 year bond and against the 10 year bond have not widened noticeably since the end of 2008. At the longer end of the yield curve, spreads have remained approximately constant; indeed, they have remained about the same as they were immediately before the panic.
In sum, the widening of corporate yield spreads after mid-2009, which I documented in my previous post, has no counterpart in the Treasury yield spreads. The Treasuries also show no indication that expected inflation was substantially greater after the crisis than it was before the crisis. Whatever has caused the corporate yield spreads to widen during the past 15 months or so, it probably was not an increase in expected future inflation.
In my judgment, a very plausible reason for this widening is the emergence of regime uncertainty, which expresses itself in the traders’ insistence on a risk premium (reflecting the diminished expected security of future private property rights) that increases with a corporate bond’s term to maturity. The fact that other forms of evidence, including a great deal of direct testimony by businessmen and others, also points in the same direction only strengthens my confidence in this hypothesis.
The following charts show the Treasury bond yield spreads discussed above.












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Good article !
The Bozos in the White House don't have a clue how to run a nation. Having said that, I do believe they know how to run everything to the ground and are actually doing a good job with that.
I have my wheelbarrow all cleaned and polished, ready for use so I can buy bread after the super inflation starts.
You all better check the tire pressure on yours, you're going to need it.
You look at all the bad things that have happened to America, you find Big Government right at the center of the action. Sub-Prime Big Government, at that.
The larger a government organization gets, the more insane it begins to look.
Ha, Ha, Ha…GK.. I predicted yesterday we may be using dollar bills for TP and buying our bread with
ammo…LOL. You just can't make this stuff up…
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The printing of money without fiscal restraint and nothing to back the currency other than a promise to pay with more paper is a sure step in the direction of inflation. Such an action is good if one is paying off foreign debt, but sucks if one is buying foreign product. And now that we are a net importing nation since our government ran off American businesses due to high taxes and a mountain of regulation, it hurts the consumer big time.
I'll be using one of those hay wagons for my bread. I want to make sure I stack it and pack enough for friends and family.
The Obama economic plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ6xBaZ92uA
The wheelbarrow is for all the $100 bills I will need to buy a loaf. Maybe I read your post wrong and you knew that. LOL
To what end?
Once everything is run into the ground then what?
It is a scary thought isn't it. I fear the super inflation is coming, maybe 2 years, maybe 5, but it's coming.
Communism, the government will own just about everything and control what they don't.
Ahhh…the Weimar Republic…cool – - and where did that lead?
That's it, Rick.
This administration has done so much damage to the American way of life, that we are going to have to work harder than ever to get back prosperity, and moral judgment, that make us the envy of the world!
No you didn't read it wrong. I'll be needing my wagon to stock up before the inflation. I should have stated that.
The inflationary phase is unavoidable, unless someone has unicorns who belch fairy dust
hidden in their closet.
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Ohhhh got it….lol
We are being set up for "The Perfect Storm"
One World Order — like the one Obama called for at West Point a couple of months ago.
Maybe all of this land grabbing that the Fed is doing is going to be our "payment" for when we default on our debt.
I sure hope you're one of those people because otherwise I'm SOL. LOL
You know what scares me the most? It's not going through what we know will be hard times — it's the entitlement crowd that will flip out when the government check for food stops coming. We all know to grow our own food and be independent but not this group.
Starving people can do crazy things.
Rush predicted economic collapse sometime mid next year because the Bush Tax Cuts will expire. I have never heard him go out on a limb and make such a prediction.
To what end?
Chaos, then when we beg for government intervention and control, they are ready to replace the current system with even bigger government, with even bigger government comes more regulation and control, more czars less freedom, and before we know it no freedom.
First thing they will do is to take over the internet, then they will stop talk radio by saying it is causing problems and the government is to busy making things right to deal with more chaos caused by talk radio….ect…
This current obama regime is blinded by their ideology and Utopian world to be capable of seeing and understanding any concepts discussed in this article. They will go down with the ship and us all in it first.
The Recession and Government failure?
Everyone talks about the economy entering another recession. That, in and of itself is not factual, misleading, and incorrect. We CANNOT have another recession, because we HAVE NOT worked our way out of this one.
El Rushbo is usually right too.
This is all avoidable, what we need is factories and manufacturing, how do we return to a manufacturing based economy–cheap power– CHP. Cheap power for Data Centers–CHP. Cheap power for hospitals, hotels, apartment buildings, buildings, retail centers–CHP. American natural gas and CHP equals cheap power. How do we beat back terror, stop funding terror–American natural gas and diesel hybrid trucks, buses and ships.
Unfortunately, you are very, very correct.
The three main historical items of barter during times of economic peril call the three A's"
1. Ammo
2. Alcohol
3. A$$ (women)
Some may argue for gold, however, the government has a huge history of stripping people of their private property and gold is a biggie.
Right down the Autobahn.
This time, Obama, Reid and Pelosi are leading US down the Yellow Brick Road.
Everybody lock arms and sing along.
"Ohhh, we're off to see the Wizard, the wonderful Wizard of Oz."……………….
Speaking of economics, here is a good chart: http://www.taipanpublishinggroup.com/images/web/w...
"Once everything is run into the ground then what?"
Utopia.
Or a New Dark Age.
Depends on your "station" in life.
This chart looks worse: http://www.taipanpublishinggroup.com/images/web/w...
That trend line is steep enough to ski on.
You don't want the White House or the big media to report the facts, do you?
Ditto that! He is almost 99% right. Even Glenn has been warning us to prepare even IF we take back the House because the damage has already been done to our economy.
Regime uncertainty indeed. With unemployment expected to increase, housing purchases expected to decrease along with durable good sales, where can the market go? Corporate bonds are sliding as they show limited expansion. Treasuries have historically been a safe haven for big investors in bad weather. Many of the large investors are even shirking hedge funds. The Fed has increased investor uncertainty by keeping interest rates low. Most everyone expects inflation and most economists also know that the best and often only valve to slow inflation is the increasing of interest rates. I believe they are preparing to monetize the debt. This will start the storm and collapse the dollar entirely. People are holding onto assets period. There is little investing due in part to your “regime uncertainty” by individuals and corporations. They just keep waiting for the tax hits.
Doesn't look good, does it?
One ought be careful they don't do a Sonny Bono at the bottom of that slope………….
Nah.
Why start now, and ruin a perfect record of obfuscation.
It's the transparency, donchaknow…………….!
We are trending just like the Depression. There was a period of uptick and then a crash.
Wrong way No Bama…….
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703...
It does look worse. The dreaded "death cross" on the chart is often a sign of coming weakness in the markets.
Ya, I think he was wrong once, but he knew it.
Can I name a community after me…….just kidding! OK-maybe a high school or a road maybe?
"we are going to have to work harder than ever to get back prosperity"
True enough, but the day that "prosperity" becomes our goal again, I will be thrilled to do that work. For as long as we've had this insane corruption in Washington, I've kept my life in a holding pattern. I will not work to support socialism.
Sure, call it whatever you like. Well you cant call it No Bammaville.
OT but I heard on Fox yesterday that Citibank has paid back the taxpayer funded bailout and is opening new branches in ……….China! That's right! It's all about jobs jobs jobs in freakin' China!
What a show of patriotism there Shiti Bank! You could open branches here and provide jobs for the American people. After all, future generations bailed you out!
Those people in DC, and worse, those on Wall Street, trying to dispel fear? it won't work. They are lying to everyone. Only stupid money is entering the market right now. I do not have a clue, as to what is safe. Nothing appears to be. Maybe guns and ammo; fresh spring water, and salt.
No Bama doesn't do manly sports, except basketball, so he's safe from that.
Sadly true.
To give credit where credit is due, and take politics somewhat out of the equation, this is not a blame Bush, or blame Obama event. It is a multi-generational phenomenon, induced by the vast spending of "Government". Further and beyond that, the cold hard facts of economics dictate no emotion. It's simply business. No hard feelings.
With that being noted, this problem is brought on by a psycological phenomenon. That of "freebies" and a sense of entitlement. The old adage is true, and applicable. Nothing is free. There comes a time, that everyone must ante up, and pay the piper.
Injecting politics back into the equation, every Progressive Administration for the past hundred years has played a role. Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmah Carter, Bill Clinton, and now Obama have promised "freebies" for votes.
It doesn't work.
We are truly in the middle of a Black Swan Event, that will last multiple generations.
Buckle your seatbelts!
Judging from Obama and Co's performance in office so far,
this bond yield mumbo-jumbo is way above their collective pay grade..
And will stay that way..
LOL I would never presume to put my name on anything in the state of Virginia. There are too many great men here already that I look up too. I am going to take my kids on a day trip this fall to see Jefferson's home Monticello which is an hour from me.
But I do agree, we are going to need each other for support and protection. It's my hope that if we do crash, the illegals will go home if they haven't been given back door amnesty. I am a-thinkin' that amnesty could happen as an October surprise…..we shall see.
When the people fear the Govrnment, there is tyranny. When the Government fears the people, there is Liberty. Watch out!!
The Mennonites who have been living and farming down in MX for about 50 years
call them camps. They have their own schools, stores etc… Around their houses
they have tall concrete fences and very angry dogs who patrol at night. These dogs
are NOT pets to play with the children, in fact they have only one person who is able
to approach them and feed them. They must be locked away in a secure enclosure
for the safety of the children…..very scary, IMO. This was all described to us by
some Mennonites who worked for us. They said it was no surprise to find their dogs
had been killed overnight.
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Socialism and America are incompatible!
Term Limits! New Congress! New Fed Admin! Cut Fed Govt in 1/2. Repeal obama's Bills!
And at least he will admit it, but not the left. With them it's the usual — duck, weave, dodge, project, blame and deflect.
Everything is going according to Soros's plan……
Good choice for a day trip. I visited Monticello back in the late 70's, I felt the power and presence of Jefferson there.
Have fun.
An individual who has managed a household or mom and pop business has more common sense about finances and economics than our entire administration. Don't spend beyond your means. Why can they not mentally grasp that simple thought and absorb it into their much bigger, elitist brains – don't spend what you don't have.
Bad debt, personal and government started the monetary meltdown. A monetary system that is backed by labor is dangerous when there are so many who want something for nothing.
It is the debt that created this mess. Personal debt that could not be managed. Government debt that was built on the entitlement philosophy to garner votes.
Oh yeah, The Black Swan is in the yard eating everything in sight. Leaving behind mines of dung. This will be a ride to remember.
Well said CL.
'When the people find that they can vote themselves money,
that will herald the end of the republic.'
- Benjamin Franklin
wrong way barry? now that's a good nik for him eh?
As a life long member of the Lollypop Guild, we welcome you to Oz. Ohhh…thanks Barry, thanks John McCain, thanks Harry, Nancy, Bawney, Chris, thanks Washington, thanks a pant load!
I was thinking this for a while, but I might know somebody who can really help fix our economy. We need to get Chef Gordon Ramsey. Not only will he help fix the problem, but also put the morons incharge in their place. I would pay to see Chef Ramsey cuss out this administration. I know its wrong, but it would feel soo good.
It's funny that you listed salt…..I have a stash of sugar, not to be believed. What makes it
LOL
hilarious is we don't use sugar any more. Mr corn was helping me unload the month-worth
of groceries I bought one day and asked, why the Hell are you buying so much sugar?
Barter was my answer. He doesn't quite subscribe to our gloom and doom tendencies YET,
therefor occasionally thinks I'm 'off the rails'.
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That will work nicely…LOL
What a novel idea! Not spending beyond your means. I have been incorporating that policy for 25 years and it's done wonders for me. Maybe if we took the money away from them they'd stop spending it?
Remember when Dear Leader said “it could be worse”…?
Well now look- darned if he wasn’t right!
I don't see how you got there, Mr. Higgins. You are inferring a causal relationship where there is no direct chain of evidence, just inferences that give you a nasty suspicion. On the other hand, one could also say the government is soaking up all the available borrowing capacity of the economy and this has had the effect of dampening the yield curve as a result – counter-intuitive though this may be.
We are free and we shall remain that way regardless of who is President! Now lets kick some azz this November and then again in 2012 and there-after!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIPoPw9zgvQ
We are free and we shall remain that way regardless of who is President! Now lets kick some azz this November and then again in 2012 and there-after!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIPoPw9zgvQ
Thank you for sharing. That is a great video, and song.
There's one sure way to get invited on as a guest on lame-stream media news shows — attack conservatives! As the liberal media watch support for their leftist agenda crumble around there very eyes. Let us use Hillary Clintons own words to inspire all of US today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
Although I have bought gold, I have also been investing in "lead futures".
That, my friend is the higher truth. Never trust a billionaire socialist. Why is he fleeing equities and loading up on gold? Next move is to turn IMF special drawing rights as new global currency. A currency speculator would only do that f he were in control of the action and would benefit. Follow the money….
If you play "It's Bush's fault" backwards, it says "I'm out of my league".
Not really, but that's what I hear.
Yes, follow the money….
The Wiemar Republic was fine, until we said no more free money. Then collaspe, inflate and panic ensued.
I think this is what the regime wanted, the panic that ensued in the Wiemar Republic when inflation hit a huge high, like what is going on in Venezuela today, they have hit about 30% for the first six months of 2010 … However, Americans are not Venezuelans.
Remember what happened next in the Wiemar Republic? The German parliament voted the "Enabling Act of 1933" which essentially let Hitler rule by regulatory fiat … Of course Germany didn't have a Tea Party, they just rolled over and took it, tyranny and all. The fight is on in America, we aren't rolling over, no matter what. The regime must not have seen the movie "Red Dawn.
In case you haven't read it, Kagan has a cool paper, called "Presidential Administration". Bet you can guess what that is all about. Now you know the rest of the story — why Congress is passing these gigantic fill-in-the-blanks bills, that "we have to pass before we know what it is all about" … They all need to be repealed.
Americans are not Germans either.
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