The Recession and ‘Regime Uncertainty’
by Robert HiggsRegime uncertainty has gained increasing recognition as the current economic troubles have persisted with little or no improvement since the economy reached a cyclical trough early in 2009. As described in my 1997 paper, regime uncertainty pertains to
the likelihood that investors’ private property rights in their capital and the income it yields will be attenuated further by government action. Such attenuations can arise from many sources, ranging from simple tax-rate increases, to the imposition of new kinds of taxes, to outright confiscation of private property. Many intermediate threats can arise from various sorts of regulation, for instance, of securities markets, labor markets, and product markets. In any event, the security of private property rights rests not so much on the letter of the law as on the character of the government that enforces, or threatens, presumptive rights.

In the latter half of the 1930s, many investors feared that the government would destroy the private enterprise system and replace it with fascism, socialism, or some other extreme transformation of the existing economic order.
In testing my hypothesis, I marshaled three distinct types of evidence: historical documentation of government actions and public reactions; findings of public opinion surveys, especially surveys of businessmen; and evidence from financial markets. The latter seems to some observers, especially to economists, to be the most telling because it is relatively “hard” and quantitative. In any event, it is the sort of evidence economists are accustomed to analyzing.
My most striking financial evidence for the New Deal episode pertains to the yield curve for corporate bonds, that is, to the spreads between the effective yields on high-grade corporate bonds with various terms to maturity. I found that this yield curve became suddenly much steeper sometime between the first quarter of 1934 and the first quarter of 1935 (a period when the New Deal lurched from its first, or business tolerant, phase to its second, or business hostile, phase) and remained very steep until sometime between the first quarter of 1941 and the first quarter of 1942 (a period when the New Deal handed over the reins to the military and the big businessmen who, along with the president himself, ran the war-command economy for the duration). I interpreted these extreme spreads as risk premiums on longer-term investments caused by regime uncertainty.
Given the extraordinary scale and scope of the actions the government has taken since mid-2008 and the many expressions of uncertainty (and hence of unwillingness to undertake long-term investments) voiced by businessmen and others as a result of this flurry—bailouts, unprecedented monetary policies, surges in government spending, and tremendous regulatory undertakings in health care and financial markets, among other things— one wonders whether the corporate bond yield curve shows the same kind of movement it displayed in the face of the regime uncertainty that prevailed from 1935 to 1941.
To pursue this matter, I have examined a number of series on corporate bond yields, by term to maturity, that I constructed from data available at Bondsonline.com. (Normally, when economists analyze “the yield curve,” they use data on U.S. Treasury securities. I caution against using such data for the purpose under discussion here. To analyze risks to private property rights as manifested by the risk premiums in bond yields, one must use private bonds, not government bonds.)
I find that back in 2008, before the onset of the financial panic in September, the corporate bond yield curve was rather flat—that is, the yields increased only slightly with term to maturity. At the lower end of the yield curve, yield spreads were tending to narrow slightly until late September. When the panic hit, yields became extremely volatile, especially for the bonds with 2 years to maturity (the shortest term in the data), and remained volatile for almost a year. After mid-2009, the volatility diminished greatly.
Examining these data, I find that once this dust had settled, the yield curve for corporate bonds had become substantially steeper. For example, the spread between corporate bonds with 5 years to maturity and corporate bonds with 2 years to maturity increased from roughly 1 percentage point or less before the financial crisis to roughly 2 percentage points since mid-2009. Similar changes occurred in the spread between the bonds with 10 years to maturity or 20 years to maturity and the bonds with 2 years to maturity: the former increased from roughly 1 percentage point to 2-3 percentage points; the latter increased from roughly 2 percentage points to roughly 4 percentage points or more.
Similarly, at the upper end of the yield curve, the spreads widened: between the bonds with 10 years to maturity and those with 5 years to maturity, from roughly a fraction of 1 percentage point to roughly more than 1 percentage point; between bonds with 20 years to maturity and those with 5 years to maturity from roughly 1 percentage point or less to 2-3 percentage points. Finally, the spread between the bonds with 20 years to maturity and those with 10 years to maturity increased from less than 1 percentage point before the crisis to 1-2 percentage points since mid-2009.
Thus, corporate bond yields have exhibited three distinct periods: pre-crisis stability with a shallow yield curve; extreme volatility of the yield curve, including some inversions in the latter part of 2008; and post-crisis stability with a much steeper yield curve since mid-2009.
Thus, just as the steep yield curve for the New Deal years corresponds precisely with the so-called Second New Deal, when Roosevelt and his leading subordinates and advisers went on the warpath against investors as a class, the recent transition corresponds to the volatility associated with the period of frenetic government action and financial market fluctuations between September 2008 and the middle of 2009, leaving in its wake a much steeper yield curve.
I view these financial data as consistent with the hypothesis of recently heightened regime uncertainty. Of course, they do not “prove” that it is true, just as the striking data I found for the 1930s do not “prove” the hypothesis as applied to that episode. But in economic history, one looks above all for the correspondence of various forms of evidence with the interpretation one places on the observations. In the current episode, as during that of the latter 1930s, we find that (1) a great deal of direct testimony by businessmen and investors, (2) an account of the government’s ideological character and the historical narrative of what the government has done and, and (3) the bond-market evidence (as well as the movements of the stock market, although they are more difficult to interpret) all conform with a hypothesis that places significant weight on regime uncertainty.
In any event, these preliminary explorations certainly show that the hypothesis should not be dismissed out of hand because it is not “scientific” or because it is not part of the mainstream macroeconomist’s customary style of mathematical modeling. If mainstream analysts continue to disregard the role of regime uncertainty in the major depressions of the modern era, especially in accounting for their extraordinary duration, then they will only demonstrate the poverty of their own mode of analysis.
The following graphs show the data on yield spreads that I have discussed above.







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Seems BO is taking lessons from FDR and his attempt to control, nationalize, or destroy private business. Gotta love that socialism.(sarc). 2 Nov can not arrive soon enough to start the house cleaning.
How can you blame companies for not hiring…You have taxes going up…no one knows how much the stupid Obama-care is really going to cost. The Feds bailing out select sectors of the economy letting others fail…Fed,state ,and local governments over their collective heads in debt and spending…The stupid left always bites the hand that feeds them…the private sector….Government produces nothing only spends ..It's time to put the left back in their box and listen to them cry for another generation
uncertianty of all these govt regulation, and tax policy is paralizing to the private sector.. Even the boobs who write this policy have no idea what lies ahead… Who in their right mind would take the risk of expanding thier business or hiring new workers, or make a large purchase of any kind right now? This is what happens when harvard educated eggheads make policy.. It looks good to them in theory, but the unintended consequences are massive and numerous….
Obama, Biden and Pelosi must be reading from the same script….'The economy is turning around'….huh??? I guess they are still stuck on that page that told them, if they say it enough times, people will believe them! The only ones listening now, ate the welfare rolls, and that's because they still want their entitlements!!
In spite of the government it was trying to gain a foothold. When along comes the EPA and it's own Cap and trade regulation, the FCC and its net neutrality, and the taxpayer bailout for the bankrupt union pension funds. Those three additional punches to the head and the economy is headed back down into blissful, never never land where reid, pelosi, BO, and the rest of the trolls ride their unicorns and play with pixie dust.
God help us! As long as these Keynesian kamikazes are at the helm, this country is in great peril. Anyone, with one scintilla of business acumen would launch a new business opportunity, IPO, etc. …with the nitwit political class looking on. Washington has iced business activity in the USA.
Make no mistake folks, nobody’s that stupid, this is all by design. It’s part of the redistributive twaddle we’ve heard for decades from dumbass leftist.
Good summary. Barry and his magic beans haven't produced a sprout yet he praises the beanstalk that only he and his sycophants can see. He tells us a sinkhole is a beanstalk.
Recession, I think it will be a full blown depression before long with the bozos we have in charge.
Please God, save the US from our leaders.
I believe it was Stalin that said if you repeat a lie enough it becomes the truth? Nobody has actually come out and called FDR a socialist, but his policies sure do mirror those tactics at times without the actual political propaganda that went with it. Today is different because the people recognize it for what it is and are rebelling against it. Peacefully and lawfully so far. Obama, and the libtards are trying to create a majority that are dependent on the government for their needs, thus buying their loyalty at the ballot box.
Biden said we are right where they want us to be…where is that on the street or in the poor house?
The Great Depression lasted just about 10 years until WWII started and our economy grew through the war-time effort (that must just kill the lib's). Just like then, there is nothing growing the economy except for uncertainty, which of course does not grow, it shrinks.
I believe as we head into September, we will get another crash of the stock market and things will get much worse. This even may be the time where people get even more desperate to survive. Maybe even the time that obama pulls out Martial Law and subverts our Constitutional Republic.
Living in a cardboard box, and standing in a long line outside a soup kitchen to get our daily bowl of gruel.
After I read up on FDR at my mother's insistance(she hated him until the day she passed), I have considered him as bad as Wilson and a socialist at the very least. Worst case a communist(not PC).
I hope not. That might just make it open season on all progressives. IMHO, he will wait until after the Nov elections to see whether or not he loses the house, the senate or both. That's another reason why we must get out the vote if we wish our nation to survive.
It would have been unfathomable to think this even two years ago, but I believe you accurately predict the subversion of the Constitutional Republic.
It may not be scientific, but as an observational hypothesis we need to consider the movement of the yield as yet another indicator of what some of us see as the economy being built on sand with the stonemasons being told they can't lay foundations.
follow MLk's advice on capitalism and we wont be in this situation again
"A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries, and say: "This is not just.""
"A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death".
"There must be a better distribution of wealth, and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism." MLK jr
America has messed up priority when it comes to spending money
Time mix up capitalism with some socialism if we are going to bring this economy back
“We have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifices. Capitalism was built on the exploitation of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor.” – MLK Jr.
Hi Oldman, I always appreciate your comments. I just can't get through some of the "hard" reading where the real information is (God bless your mother and her beliefs) so your "Reader's Digest" info is so helpful to me. By nature I am a Fine Arts person, a picture is worth Trillions of words to me. I saw some of the "inflitration" of what we now call "progressive" influence back in the 70's when I was studying. I argued a paper on Jackson Pollack vs Carrivagio, that Pollack could not be considered "creation of beauty." (Surprise, didn't do well on that paper.) I based my arguement at the time on the dictionary definition of art. I still have an '84 edition of Webster's and even that late the definition reads: art- the activity of using imagination and skill to create beautiful things. Try Wickionary today. No mention of "beautiful" at all. Just saying.
I hope not too, but just like the Boy Scouts, it doesn't hurt to prepare: http://www.captaindaves.com/index.htm
What you and MLK failed to mention was the Big Red Machine that existed at the time,……..
had to rid the world of this menace first (as you very well knew) before,…..
America could deal with the "programs of social uplift",…….
unfortunately,…..just when we were ready to use our economic might to tackle world poverty,……..
Abduhl decides to spread the word of some nut case named Allah.
but keep the faith there Libby we will get there some day,…but as for this ,…..
".democratic socialism" thing,…..you and that MLK fellow are all wet.
better to be exploited under capitalism than socialism,….there Libby,…….
at least the poor exploited ones have AC, Color TV, clothing and eat three times a day,……
but the most important thing that capitalism provides the "exploited" ones is,….
OPPORTUNITY.
This esoteric bond yield information is great for Conservative policy makers and bond traders, but to the average working man, MrO and his policies are obviously not making it…..
Come on Obama… The correct course is simple ECON 101 basic fare…When idiots, like your crowd, are in charge of a sinking ship, the ship always sinks……..BUT,
here are some simple steps you could do to save the Country and your sorry Presidency….
1).No new taxes
2).Roll back ALL tax rates by 10%
3).No new regulations
4).ObamaCare in the freezer ..(Until we can actually bury it.)
5).Cut back 10% on ALL Federal outlays on everything except Defense.
You'll see the the economy take off and you'll unfortunately get re elected, but if a President does the right thing, we don't care what Party he's from, what color he is, or who gets the credit….
One has to question just what is meant when these clowns proclaim,……..
that the,……. "ship is slowly turning around and headed in the right direction".
Because if the intent is to "turn" the American economic ship into a direction,……..
toward a different dock in a socialist port,…than yes,…..
they have TURNED things around.
What a,…SHIP OF FOOLS,..!!!!
Yeah, we'll be in a much worse situation.
MLK was a clergyman, not an economist. His formal education was in Theology and he plagiarized large sections of his dissertation. Don't believe me? Look it up. His political and economic outlook was simplistic at best and his writings on the subject are simply not fact based and rational. Naive would be an accurate description. More sermon than objective examination.
King was an effective and inspirational leader in support of civil rights; but make no mistake, civil rights would have happened at that time with or without him. The country had evolved to the point that it was inevitable.
Can;t help yourself there lefty can you….have to play the race card did'nt you..As much as you lefties hate the US your sorry rear ends never move to your utopia….Maybe Cuba or Uncle Chavey has some openings for ya to stand with you collective hands out
Excellent piece. Enjoyed the presentation and the research that went into it. My fear is that the topic failed to connect with readers as most of the discussion materials were not presented in a way that people will connect to in terms of their own experience. We could use more of these pieces on the board but I fear we will see precious few. Like gemstones, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Your correct Ralph……..Socialism is a farmer growing food everyday for his family and everyday someone shows up to eat….each day more and more show up with their hands out soon enough the farmer can't feed his own family…It's time to stop making excuses for the un-productive….Sit on your butt…don't eat
Psst Baracky, during the 1930s, Keynesian economics died a slow and painful death for FDR, and the depression. So why did you and your dummies attempt to dig it up, and use a defibrillator on it?…Why stay stuck on stupid? Oh forgot, bedsides not working, it's the easiest way to loot the treasury!
"My fear is that the topic failed to connect with readers as most of the discussion materials were not presented in a way that people will connect to in terms of their own experience."
Perhaps you might be gracious enough to provide a brief explanation for us lesser mortals?
So I take it you were a big George W Bush fan what with PEPFAR and all.
To Republican Fiscal Hawks' credit, according to my best estimation,
the number of Tea Party Like Rallies held for the following deficit inducing
Republican Presidents is as follows:
Nixon/Ford – 700
Reagan – 1,400
G. W. Bush – 2,100
So, to all those who say that the Republican hatred towards Obama is racist,
and that we are living under a 'regime' I say examine the facts friend. The
Republican were just as concerned about the deficit in the past, as evidenced
by the large number of Tea Party Like Rallies that I cited above, as they are today!
I never knew that MLK Jr was an economist. Here all this time I was wasting my time listening to Milton Friedman.
If capitalism thrived because of slavery, how come the North became a much more powerful economic power than the South?
If you disagree with the author fine, but how about making an attempt at explaining why mixing up socialism into our system would be good for the economy? Or are we supposed to assume that you think the economy in the late 30s was good?
I would have made the point regarding regime risk by pointing out the sum of funds held in treasury accounts being a new record and then tied that back to employment losses. I would have then cross-tabbed the yield curve to consumption stimuli to demonstrate that while the spread looks favorable, the policies are proven to be unworkable. If consumption stimulus was legitimate, the government's tax credit for housing purchases would have stimulated the housing market to a sufficient degree it recovered. In fact, the problem got worse, so this demonstrates that the regime risk is indeed worse as government has failed to see that capital investment is the end of the beast that requires stimulation and it is this policy by which the common man will gain solace through greater employment opportunities and real wealth accumulation.
Forgive me if my tone sounded snobby or high-handed.
Good job RainMan…
You need not apologize or explain yourself to to anyone,
especially wanna be psudo-intellectual phonies, who cut and paste Ayn Rand commentary
at every opportunity….
I never knew that MLK Jr was an economist. Here all this time I was wasting my time listening to Milton Friedman.
Damn,…… how I do appreciate great sarcasm,…good one there king.
"blah, blah, blah…blah, blah blah…" -MLK
Id rather tell government how to spend my money.
call me crazy…
Capitalism produces a business cycle with crashes and booms but it takes government to create a prolonged stagnation.
You are missing an elementary point. When the economy grows at a faster rate than the deficit, the deficit and debt service shrinks relative to the economy and is sustainable. When the deficit grows at a faster rate than the economy the deficit and debt service grows relative to the economy and crushes the economy.
It's more than regime uncertainty — it's a willful toxic environment for business and investors.
it's the Latin marxist takeover effect. Businesses and investors take their money and flee a country when a marxist dictator takes office. The same thing is happening here. Why bother risk having your investment taken from you, like the GM bondholders, when you can invest in Hong Kong and pay no capital gains taxes and remove yourself from a flawed currency like the USD?
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My grandma used to say "God helps those who help themselves." Is November here yet?
What form of government do we have? Do you really know? If you think we are a democracy, you really need to watch this video for a reality check.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE&fe
I don't understand why everybody is so down on Obama's economic team. They have some great minds like Bernanke who has made the causes of the Great Depression his life's work. All that he is doing is proving how the Depression began by experimentally recreating it.
I don't think the President takes lessons from anyone. The ship of state seems to lack a rudder.
Companies are holding cash instead of investing because of the uncertainty of what the Obama Administration is going to do from hour to hour.
Are you a liar or are you just stupid?
Lets set the record straight here people, there have been a couple of trolls posing on this site trying to hijack the Mlk narative…….Martin Luther King Jr. was NOT a democrat, he was a Rebublican
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F64k_INn-Tc
http://www.nbra.info/MLKWasARepublican
Still can't get over it Mr. "HiPlainsDrifter"? Let the anger go. It's better for your health. Not that I care…
Simple bromides from a simple mind, Mr. "Drifter". About what anyone expects from you though…
A quote not from Rand:
"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a ["Drifter"] scorned". From "The Mourning Bride" by William Congreve.
I am glad you get so much enjoyment out of following my comments and clicking them down. It is reminiscent of the behavior of a 13 year old. Pathetic…
Cut & Paste Fan
If I ignore you will you go TF away? The shoe must have fit well. I didn't even have to mention your sorry name and you took the bait…heh he….Besides…
You're an easy "boy" to follow, leaving a trail of cut and paste crap whereever you go….
You're so cute with you clever insults. It is you who keep showing up near my posts and making your pathetic attempts. It only makes you look stupid, petty and immature -all of which you apparently are…
I promise on my "cut & paste" right-clicking mouse that I will never engage, respond or even peripherally mention you ever again if YOU will just "go TF" away forever…
Yes, that port is their destination. Or else they are lying without a cover. It's deliberate central govt or too stupid to read. I think they read quite well and stupid people don't become pres. (wrong ones do, though)
Thanks for the extra! It is concise enough for me to absorb and use later.
Just like a project in college. Neat-o.
This is why we elect a new HofR every two years. It channels regime uncertainty in productive directions. It looks like the swamp may well truly get drained this time around.
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