Affordable Care? New Obamacare Fee Coming to Health Insurance in 2012
by PubliusWASHINGTON (AP) — Starting in 2012, the government will charge a new fee to your health insurance plan for research to find out which drugs, medical procedures, tests and treatments work best. But what will Americans do with the answers?
The goal of the research, part of a little-known provision of President Barack Obama’s health care law, is to answer such basic questions as whether that new prescription drug advertised on TV really works better than an old generic costing much less.
But in the politically charged environment surrounding health care, the idea of medical effectiveness research is eyed with suspicion. The insurance fee could be branded a tax and drawn into the vortex of election-year politics.
The Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute – a quasi-governmental agency created by Congress to carry out the research – has yet to commission a single head-to-head comparison, although its director is anxious to begin.
The government is already providing the institute with some funding: The $1-per-person insurance fee goes into effect in 2012. But the Treasury Department says it’s not likely to be collected for another year, though insurers would still owe the money. The fee doubles to $2 per covered person in its second year and thereafter rises with inflation. The IRS is expected to issue guidance to insurers within the next six months.
“The more concerning thing is not the institute itself, but how the findings will be used in other areas,” said Kathryn Nix, a policy analyst for the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank. “Will they be used to make coverage determinations?”
The institute’s director, Dr. Joe Selby, said patients and doctors will make the decisions, not his organization.
“We are not a policy-making body; our role is to make the evidence available,” said Selby, a primary care physician and medical researcher,
But insurance industry representatives say they expect to use the research and work with employers to fine-tune workplace health plans. Employees and family members could be steered to hospitals and doctors who follow the most effective treatment methods. Patients going elsewhere could face higher copayments, similar to added charges they now pay for “non-preferred” drugs on their insurance plans.
Major insurers already are carrying out their own effectiveness research, but it lacks the credibility of government-sponsored studies.
Not long ago, so-called “comparative effectiveness” research enjoyed support from lawmakers in both parties. After all, much of the medical research that doctors and consumers rely on now is financed by drug companies and medical device manufacturers, who have a built-in interest in the findings. And a drug maker only has to show that a new medicine is more effective than a sugar pill – not a competing medication – to win government approval for marketing.
The 2009 economic stimulus bill included $1.1 billion for medical effectiveness research, mainly through the National Institutes of Health. It was not considered particularly controversial. But things changed during the congressional health care debate, after former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin made the claim, now widely debunked, that Obama and the Democrats were setting up “death panels” to ration care.
As a result, lawmakers hedged the new institute with caveats. It was set up as an independent nonprofit organization, with a .org Internet address instead of .gov. The government cannot dictate Selby’s research agenda. And there are limitations on how the Health and Human Services department can use the research findings in decisions that affect Medicare and Medicaid.
Selby says the institute is taking seriously the term “patient-centered” in its name. Patients will not be merely subjects of research; they and their representatives will be involved in setting the agenda and overseeing the process.
“We are talking about patients as partners in the research,” said Selby. Findings will be presented in clear language – a kind of Consumer Reports approach – so that patients and doctors can easily draw on them to make decisions.
“Our goal, our hope, is that over time, by involving patients in research, two things will happen,” said Selby. “One is that we will start asking questions in a more practical fashion, so the results would speak more consistently to questions that patients want to know the answers to. And two is that, by our example of involving patients in the research, trust will rise.” He expects to unveil the institute’s proposed research agenda in the next few weeks.
Former Medicare administrator Gail Wilensky says that agenda should focus on high-cost procedures and drugs on which the medical community has not developed a consensus, and which have widely different patterns of use around the country. A Republican, Wilensky believes opposition to the institute’s work is shortsighted.
“This just strikes me as a component of finding ways to treat better and spend smarter,” she said.







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Barack Hussein Obama is the single most destructive entity to America in its entire history. I loathe this man.
I'm also very concerned he will go "scorched earth" if it looks like he will lose the election to ensure we cannot elect anyone to replace him. They've worked for 110 years for this moment right here, right now. I just don't see them walking away from tearing this country down like they drool over daily.
Way too many people are against him so I highly doubt that he will use Martial Law. He'll be dead man walking if he tries it.
You have totally nailed it. I agree totally. He is the number one enemy of this country. He has been since before he was elected. Why no one will force compliance with the Constitution is beyond me. A nation (any nation) that does not enforce its laws CEASES TO EXIST AS A NATION.
please NO..
we don't need to make him a martyr..
just VOTE his a$$ OUTTA there in a LANDSLIDE..
You are not a lone, my friend. It will take lot of time to ween the Obama groupies off the trough and replant the forest, but enough of us hang tough, we can regain our course and speed. Even if he wins a second term, may God forbid, he'll be a dead man walking as ritasowders writes below.
Any thoughts on a caption for that picture?
Im sure she means that in a rhetorical sense.
"Major insurers already are carrying out their own effectiveness research, but it lacks the credibility of government-sponsored studies."
Yeah? And just what "credibility" do government-sponsored studies have?
You are correct and the idea that some people harbor about him simply being inept and incompetent couldn't be further from the truth. He is on a mission to do the very damage you mention and every last move by both himself and his corrupt party is calculated and purposeful.
You can rest assured that he and the Democrats will whatever it takes, either legally, or illegally, to maintain power and the agenda, while they still have opportunity.
Yeah, the "Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute – a quasi-governmental agency. . ." sure sounds like a great idea [sarc]. Just like Outcome -Based Education, a predetermined result will be determined by government bureaucrats and it will be up to the government to provide the incentives and disincentives to compel compliance by the individual citizen. In this age of collectivism, I suppose that such things are inevitable, but they are disconcerting none-the-less.
* ". . .insurance industry representatives say they expect to use the research and work with employers to fine-tune workplace health plans.”
Oh, this sounds so good! As if insurance companies don’t already control enough of our lives, this research will be used to further expand their control by governmental sanction (For the good of the collective, of course!)
* "Employees and family members could be steered to hospitals and doctors. . ."
Are you currently having trouble finding doctors that you have decided are good and hospitals/clinics with great reputations for quality health care that will agree to accept your current health insurance? Well, it’s about to get worse! The government will decide for you!
* "Patients going elsewhere could face higher copayments. . ."
In other words, the government knows best what is good for you.
In my former capacity as an elected official, part of my responsibility involved the directorship of the health care for the governmental employees of my agency. In the Fall of 2010, I received a LARGE amount of paperwork from the United States Department of Commerce that inquired about the contributions that my governmental agency made to the monthly health insurance payments for each employee. It was further advised that effective January 2011, all of these governmental payments must be reported to the Internal Revenue Service as income under the IRS Form 1099 for each employee. The idea is to tax the amount of governmental contribution (Cadillac Plan) to help fund the Obamacare program in order to redistribute the proceeds among the citizenry of this country. Fortunately, this 1099 reporting was delayed until January 2013 and may have been changed again.
If a government is allowed to control the health of our citizens, it will completely control the individual.
Remove the small black child from the photo, and you are left with twelve of the greatest things that are wrong with the United States.
See I'll give you an A+………just like I "earned"!!!
"to find out … what works best." I'm pretty sure the free market does this already. The one's that work best are the one's that are used.
Nothing should scare people more than "quasi-government agency". And there are multiples of these in this bill.
Loathe is a term of endearment as far as i am concerned.
Obama is a chief enabler to Satan himself.
The word dose not exist to convey the level of contempt we have for him.
Maranatha.
The government cannot dictate Selby’s research agenda. And there are limitations on how the Health and Human Services department can use the research findings in decisions that affect Medicare and Medicaid…
“This just strikes me as a component of finding ways to treat better and spend smarter,” she (Wilensky) said.
Uh-huh. Just wait until there is a "crisis" and a need for "savings" is declared.
Step one in setting up the "death panels"…
The toddler can write between the big lines.
PS. I meant the one with the jacket and a blue tie, not the one with a sweater vest and blue tie (this one can write in cursive).
Remove both of them (note the matching blue ties) and you have 11 of the biggest idiots in our country.
Oh he's smart. Never doubt that. (Satan after all was an archangel before he fell).
Just too bad all that talent and intellect is being used for a destructive purpose.
The master death panel!
Yep, I agree GF… as usual you nailed it! "… spend smarter…" equals throwing granny under the bus…
HT!;-)
The picture kinda reminds me of the Last Supper. Which one will be Judas?
You’re killin me Cowboy. Drag me onto the thin ice hey. All I can say is give the kid a chance.
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I'm cancelling my health insurance, payin the fine and they'll STILL have to treat me at the ER.
Let's see who breaks first……..obama's "it pays for itself" ponzi scheme or state budgets.
How about
"And this is how you spell "s u c k e r" , a-a-a-nd, of course we add an "e s" , uh. teh make it plural".
that's cause he goes to a charter or private school.
"Sarah Palin made the claim, now widely debunked, that Obama and the Democrats were setting up “death panels” to ration care"
Here again is the AP showing its liberal stripes. Exactly what was debunked?? That it would be called a “death panel”?? No, government always makes it sound nice when they are stripping us of our liberties. In typical Washingtonian speak, it became known at the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), 15 unelected bureaucrats choosing just what services will be available to whom…and who would not get those services. Yes, rationing folks! Many of the Dems who forced this on us by voting for it came out of the woodwork to oppose the IPAB, but Palin was not wrong about it. She just made the prediction a couple years before it arrived. Palin wasn’t the only one saying this would come to pass…geez, just look at how government run healthcare operates elsewhere! This is what they do! Guess what new rule is now part of Obamacare: if you are over 70 and have a major brain injury (say aneurism), without prior board approval doctors are instructed to only treat to comfort…as in, don’t take any major attempts (expense) to correct the injury, just make the “unit” comfortable.
“widely debunked” my butt. AP is a joke.
Were you looking at the picture?
Those are our leaders.
Bunch of pasty, pale faced,ugly politicians.
Who have we become?
That "pill" she's taking for her cancer causes dizziness, she probably just fell.
Absolutely, there will be rationing of health care services! Much of this rationing will be based upon the age and remaining productivity of the individual. Your examples to this end are quite correct. People really need to look at the British model to see how our proposed system will be administered. Why more folks are not 'up in arms' about this invasion of our individual freedom is beyond my comprehension.
I think when it's all said and done, this Obumble Care is going to be a huge mess and is going to very destructive to our way of life. Most of these buffoons never read the bill yet passed a 1700+ plus page bill.
C'mon we all know this is stealth for slipping in single payer. Throw enough sugar in the gas tank and you can show everyone cars don't work and we all have to go back to horse and buggy.
"Can you imagine a man who had never run any kind of organization, large or small, taking it upon himself to fundamentally change all kinds of organizations in a huge and complex economy? "
Was it the red pill or the blue pill? Probably the blue one. I think swallowing the red pill is fatal…
Then they'll hafta widen the lanes at the ATM…
"The Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute – a quasi-governmental agency created by Congress to carry out the research "
nope, not correct.
"The Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute – a quasi-governmental agency created by Congress to give employment to more cronies"
That's more like it.
.We have to tweet and facebook these articles or else the word will not be spread!
Where is the Impact study on this bill? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Slime.
There won't be any. Remember, the ATMs are contributing to the high unemployment. Besides, no one will have any money anyway.
Elite Ruling Class Death Panel signed the "You Can Kiss Your Ass Goodbye" bill.
That's Gary Coleman, unfortunately he won't be around to benefit from all of us paying for his dialysis.__God speed Gary.
There's no need to complain about this little detail, or that new provision of Obamacare. We know it's a disaster for American medicine — that we will cease being the innovators of the world, and become a huge bureaucratic medical slum.
To see what will happen, just look at a parallel instance: Stalin's collectivization of agriculture. He took over the entire food industry in the U.S.S.R. and herded all the peasant farmers into state-owned collectives. And Soviet agriculture entered a slough of despond much like a big-city Department of Motor Vehicles. The Soviets were never self-sufficient in food again, even though they still had the Ukraine, the former bread-basket of Europe.
The collectivization of our medical industry will similarly turn medical care into a giant slough of despond — despite all the patent lies and glittering promises Obama told in order to pass it. He had to crush independent, free-enterprise medicine, so that ghetto dwellers and welfare recipients can get the same care as paying patients, and keep rich people from getting any better care than the poor. Quite a worthy motive, don't you think?
Here's my caption for that picture:
"And this stick figure with the rock on his back represents you at the age of 21, carrying $100 trillion of debt that my administration will leave behind …"
"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free."
P.J. O'Rourke
Good one! That would explain the looks of ecstatic glee from Nancy and Harry wouldn't it?
Couls someone please give me another serving of Hopium?
That's why I say the safest place to be in the US to be sure one will never get attacked by a WoMD from terrorists in DC.
Al Qaida can only DREAM of doing the damage those ass bags have done to this country.
And they create jobs by having people break more windows.
This article reads just like a press release from the so-called Institute with no editing and no filter.
"Sarah Palin made the claim, now widely debunked, that Obama and the Democrats were setting up “death panels” to ration care"
……WHAT debunking can you POSSIBLY be referring to….if anything it has become more and more apparent by the hidden "gems" in the bill and the people being appointed to run it that is EXACTLY what is planned and way more so than even Sarah guessed at!
Publius is either stupid or will somehow benefit from the monstrosity of the bill…or is pure evil and wishes for the downfall of the US…which one of those three (and it IS one of them) can be for others to determine.
Correct on two counts:
1)Sarah is able to call a spade a spade which flips out liberals.
2)Progressives (communism, one bite at a time) believe in eugenics or perfecting the human race. Therefore, if you are 'not productive' the government will not keep you alive. The death panel brought to you by bureaucrats.
The problem we have is the population that voted for him.
A man named Bruzenski patented multiple components of his alternative cancer cure. The U.S. government spent years suing him. Then the NIH literally stole his patents. How does that work?
I think we have all learned Congress has one agenda: How to steal more money from the American people who have no recourse. Except to vote them all out of office. Their 'research' is like Solyndra et al, just a way to funnel donations back to themselves.
So they will do comparison tests on the performance of generic drugs vs. name brand drugs. If they decide a generic is "good enough", we will ALL be told that is the drug of choice.
I buy my own expensive health coverage. If my company wants to allow me to go with the drug my doctor prefers, I think that is my right. If a person is receiving free insurance, the provider (government) has a right to require they use generics wherever possible.
I am sick to death of this notion that all people should have the same health care! Those that pay huge monthly premiums for their personal coverage are supposed to have the same options as the person who never worked and never did a thing to provide health care for the family.
I don't see a thing wrong with the person who is paying having a better doctor experience – like having actual appointments as opposed to lining up at a clinic, being allowed to take the name brand drugs (which you pay a co-pay for) as opposed to the government mandating generic drugs for all.
All these new "taxes" and fees and how many people are receiving the benefits of the bill's "free" health insurance? NONE!
Obamacare is totally unaffordable. 15 million new onto Medicaid? This is socialist pipe dream. http://goo.gl/QVPN2
THis was my greatest concern when they were passing this bill. The government will totally control studies, reports and the flow of medical information. If they don't want to pay for a procedure/prescription, they will tailor an "OFFICIAL" report to question its effectiveness. When are people going to figure out that gov't is the biggest special interest of all. It serves ITS interests, not ours.
although not called "deal panels" rationed care is the same result. And healthcare rationing is killing people, ask the British or Canadians who actually need care. Not healthy ones who just know "it's free" http://cobrahealth.com/Obamacare-rationing.html
Publius didn't write this article, the Associated Press did. But yes, they get great benefits from sucking up to Obama and spreading lies about his critics.
The insurance fee could be branded a tax
Of course it's a tax. We're being charged a tax to fund the costs of denying us medical treatment. And we're sitting around accepting it. The Founders are spinning in their graves.
I honestly feel that this guy (obama) is the most dangerous enemy that our country has ever had!
This is how liberty dies
Please delte this comment before the Secret Service reads it please. They can and will use it as a threat. Dont destroy your life by stating how we all feel. Please delete this asap. They do read all of the comments here.
Most folks have become shepple do to our indoctrination schools.
But he's the messiah. Of course he can do this. IN HIS OWN FEEBLE MIND. What was his GPA again?
Yeah, they and the rest of that parade of losers are probably thinking to themselves, "By the time the debt bomb explodes, we'll all be dead!"
which ever one has POLITICALLY
the MOST to gain by usin da knife !
WHAT ??
REALLY ??
i would NEVER have guessed !
Maybe you're responding to the wrong comment? Nothing of interest to the SS in my statement.
Nothing like freedom and personal responsibility!
we must do more than vote him out – that simply empowers him to be elevated to the star of the commie left for the rest of his life. We MUST have an administration that will push prosecution, demand answers,document them, try them, then physically lock some of these folks up – you cannot keep a dog from crapping on the carpet by simply getting a new carpet. http://www.40bagsand40barrels.com
I meant that for another comment where the author made a vague threat whichcould land him into trouble David CoxeCoxe Property Management and Leasinghttp://www.coxepropertymanagementandleasing.com5500 Prytania St.New Orleans, LA 70115(228) 229-6373Facebook Twitter @coxepropmgmt
"… as the people of the last free nation on the planet watched the beginning of their end, the puddle under Pelosi widened as did the grins of the imps that surrounded the signer as he finished drawing the little hammer & sickle flag that celebrated his treason…. history will note he signed with the left hand" http://www.40bagsand40barrels.com
"But in the politically charged environment surrounding health care, the idea of medical effectiveness research is eyed with suspicion. The insurance fee could be branded a tax and drawn into the vortex of election-year politics."
Why…. bovine excrement you say!
Job number one for the new president and the newly elected house/senate members.
Kill, ravage, destroy, dump on the garbage heap of history anything and everything that is Obamacare.
2012 will be a mandate from the people. Obama (the leader of the now socialist democratic party) is going to lose by an unprecedented number.
The wrath of the American People will be unmistaken even by the milk toast media who will try and cover their ratty little eyes.
The death of the Tea Party has been greatly exaggerated.
you sound like a scared little coward, predicting gloom and doom, grow a pair
Too many people believed the Republicans were going to repeal or de-fund Obamacare. Problem is the establishment Republican leadership will only push for repeal if it helps the Republican establishment. Lots of folks are pissed at Congress cause they've done NOTHING to stop Obamacare.
Honestly I don't trust the current speaker to do the right thing for our country. Perhaps Allen West or Paul Ryan as speaker could be trusted to put the country before their party, but not the Tanned Crybaby.
Don't have to imagine sir! We have living proof of crappy leadership = crappy results.
Actually, you don't have to look at Soviet agriculture. Just look to their own implementation of healthcare. The finest healthcare was provided to the party elites. Everyone else got 3rd world medical care. We're headed down that road. Who in their right mind would want to become a medical doctor in America after implementation of Obamacare?
that would be boehner.
"Sarah Palin made the claim, now widely debunked, that Obama and the Democrats were setting up 'death panels' to ration care."__No, the won't be calling them "death panels", but the results will be referred to as "collateral damage".
(tongue in my cheek) That's quite naughty!
I do love it though!
ok, makes sense.
then WE need to vote IN somebody
with the NUTS to do it !
and who is THAT gonna be ???
Yeah, yet another new government fee! I thought obummercare was supposed to drive down the cost of heatlhcare. LIAR LIBERALS!!!!!! I'm TEA. Taxed, tolled and have fees ad-nauseum. Thanks obummer. I think you've redistributed my earnings enough already. DON'T TREAD ON ME. SPREAD MY WORK ETHIC NOT MY WEALTH!!!!
We'll all be seeing a witch doctor, because he wil be the only one with a practice in 2 years with this monstrosity. You picked a good time to retire sen nelson ( you don't deserve capital letters). God help the American people!
no one in the race now, with the exception of Gingrich has the knowledge, instincts and tenacity to both speak plainly and frankly about who and what Obama is and bring to light what he has actually done to this Country(that MUST be done) as well as the historic knowledge and Constitutional respect to begin to fix the serious problems we have allowed D.C. to cause. I wish it was Bachmann, I`ve watched and spoken with her backstage a few times and she is a patriot – tough and intelligent, I do not think she can win and we do not have the luxury of losing this election. I do not like it that Gingrich is the guy, like I wrote in a recent article, we need a pit bull – and we need to completely refresh Congress, everyone that`s been in more than two terms MUST go – that will build a fence to contain the pit bull, as well as send a message to Congress that it`s different now. If we do that, in 2016 Palin will be ready. See "chemo for conservatives" at http://www.40bagsand40barrels.com
"finding ways to treat better and spend smarter" are you serious? rationing care does not make you smarter or better, kills competition (along with people), And does not work. should Canada and Britain still have healthcare inflation comparable to ours. http://www.slideshare.net/CraigJCasey/obamacare-r...
the whole point of Obamacare was to lower the bar. Since not everyone had healthcare they want to make it universal, you lower the standard of care to make everything even. It's very flawed and two-year-old thinking. http://www.cobrahealth.com/Obamacare.html
and should also come with the disclaimer "Barack Hussein Obama approves this message."
They smoked too much Hopium, that is the problem. it affects your judgment and you're not thinking clearly, when you pass failed socialist policies.
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