Will Europe Bring Down the Global Economy?
by PubliusFrom National Journal:
This is the worst-case scenario from Europe, and it just might come true: Italy defaults on its debts. Every major Italian bank collapses. Recession grips the eurozone. Sovereign defaults and bank failures ripple across the Continent. Saddled with bad loans to nations and lenders in Europe, American banks hemorrhage cash. Credit freezes in the United States. Multinational companies, unable to raise money, curb U.S. investment and hiring. Wall Street demands, but fails to get, new bailouts. The entire developed world plummets into recession and, quite possibly, depression.
This, in contrast, is the placid warning that President Obama gave Americans about the threat: “If Europe is contracting,” he said on Monday, “then it’s much more difficult for us to create good jobs here at home.” There’s still a chance that Europeans, through some combination of fiscal and monetary action, can stop the crisis before it shatters the feeble U.S. recovery. But the worst case is so much worse than Obama’s description, and Washington has failed to prepare voters for the possibility. “The [potential] shock we’re talking about is of very large magnitude,” says Viral Acharya, a New York University professor who studies financial risk extensively. “If you’re just having an Armageddon coming your way, [America’s] buffers may not be adequate.”
The eurozone’s struggles are already hurting the U.S. recovery. Stocks have fallen, and exports to the European Union—the world’s largest economy—are dropping as the Continent slides into recession. In the best case, the pain inflicted on the United States basically stops there. Europeans marshal the political will to bail out Italy and Spain, and they wall off Greece from the financial system at large. Lending slows but doesn’t stop. The European recession proves comparatively mild, and America avoids one.
But the situation could worsen quickly for the United States. The biggest risk is a massive credit freeze. Loans from European banks account for one-fifth to one-quarter of the American lending market, Acharya says, and loans from those banks would disappear fast if they begin tumbling under bad sovereign debts. American banks would likely pull back on lending, too. Consumers and businesses would curb spending. “The precipitating event for the global financial crisis and the Great Recession was the bankruptcy of a single, relatively small broker-dealer, Lehman Brothers. The bankruptcy of a nation as large as Italy would be many times more severe,” says Karl Smith, an economist at the University of North Carolina who cowrites the popular economics blog Modeled Behavior. “In theory, there is no limit to how bad it could get.”
Early warnings of economic doom will show up in indicators of credit stress—signs that lending has tightened here—such as the LIBOR rate (the amount of interest that banks charge to lend money to one another) and the TED spreads (the difference between those interbank rates and the return on U.S. government debt). Those indicators are already rising methodically. When they spike toward 2008 levels, watch out.
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Good G*d man, they're NOT gonna' warn us… until they have their stock portfolios aligned to take maximum advantage of the mega-avalanche. Too many middleclass peeps are in the market, and we might just dump everything and pay the stiff penalties this time… IF we knew the likely scenario. We keep forgetting, these guys in government DO NOT worry one damn bit about the best interest of WE THE PEOPLE.
There is money to be made in markets, no matter which direction they trade.
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Will Europe bring down the global economy? Answer- If Globalists like Obama & Soros have their way. Yes.
Take care of America and keep US separate from these Globalist megalomaniacs who manipulate currency. This Admin, and the Fed Reserve need to be watched like a hawk.
Europe isn't bringing the global economy down, SOCIALISM and COMMUNISM infecting governments across the world is with its entitlement based debt creation which I refer to as generational theft.
It is going to get ugly in the next few years as people across the world start to experience the beginnings of the long term ramifications arising from the scourge of the Marxism that has been allowed to breed unchallenged for decades.
It is time to get serious, It is time to speak the truth and question with boldness, absent fear and without reservation.
Now is not the time to panic – but it is a good time to be alarmed, forewarned and prepared. When Europe collapses it will only take a week or so for the Tsunami to reach us, and it will make the market crash we're still recovering from look tame by comparison. It's not going to be good – for anyone.
This is what happens when you have a bunch of collective morons spending far more than what's being brought in.
This has always been part of President Downgrade's plan to destroy the U.S., Europe is just a stepping stone on his road to absolute power.
Liberty must be defended no matter what the cost.
Why? We know socialism—Marxism doesn’t not work. Karl Marx’s bastard brain child is what has destroyed not only the economy but the liberty of Europe.
A free market can always be built—it’s organic—it grows, it thrives on liberty. Totalitarianism—Progressivism is a death march dressed in pretty costumes.
Defend liberty and there is always a bright future.
This is the time to be sure that the pantry is full and you are prepared on all levels. If the Euro melts down, layoffs will rapidly accelerate and credit markets will freeze tight for many months. In 401K's and IRA'a CASH is KING. This could be a very brutal winter of discontent. Be mentally and physically capable to help at a minimum both family and friends. If you are not an apartment dweller be ready to shift from lawn to garden. It could well be essential to survival.
Ok, I will now put away my tin-foil hat!
Smells like Soros and Sunstein.
I could think of all kinds of smarta$$ comments to make, but brother this has such terrible consequences attached to it, it could make the set up to WW II look like a walk in the park. Talk about setting up a too big to fail scenario, the EU, this is beyond the grasp of anyone. If these countries don’t begin severe austerity moves, gravity will take over, and watch out.
If anyone in your family has land, make sure you're good with them and ready and able to move in with them to make a stand. Money is transitory, but land endures like gold plus, you can sustain yourself off of it, you can't eat gold. Be watching, be prepared and be wary.
If all the SOCIALIST countries including the USA don’t begin severe austerity moves, gravity will take over, and watch out.
Just my 2 pennies worth Stan.
Bible prophecy says a World Leader will appear that will require us to take part in his money system, or else we can't buy or sell anything.
Just think of it as The 4th Reich. The goals of the 3rd Reich have been accomplished.
Smells like this thing is rolling along as planned….
Of COURSE it will. Very bright financial minds have been warning you about it for the better part of two years now.
They haven't quite finished transferring all of our wealth to themselves yet. Give it another couple of months and they'll pull out the keystone and it will all come crashing down.
Sig Heil…..
Frances Fox Piven must have a permanent grin that resembles the Cheshire cat's!!!
http://www.politiseeds.com
Prophecy !
One way to look at the potential collapse of the EU is this could slow or stop the movement towards a one world government. With the breakup of the EU Nationalism will no doubt arise in Europe, Dangerous yes, but might be the only way to remove the old Socialists and Communists that have been destroying the European Continent for decades.
Will it?
Probably.
After watching The Bloody History of Communism, it becomes evident we're on the same path……
Those who've been paying attention will will find some comfort in their efforts to prepare……but sadly, this country has lost touch with reality for far too long….hell, that state of mind was encouraged……
But, that dose of reality is coming at us like gang-busters….the shock alone will claim many victims…..
Clueless comes to mind.
Those which choose to watch Dancing with the Stars instead of learning history and reading current events will be the first to go, most of my family included. They have now come to the point where they won't debate me because I prove they're wrong with O's true intentions. I'll wish them good luck with their bark soup and grass sandwich recipe's.
It's sad how many exist that "know something is up", refuse to accept the detrimental possibility that there is "more up" than they're willing to admit, much less make the effort to look into…..
Yes, I too have people in my circle that flat out refuse to acknowledge what's going on around them. So, in the best interest of my own safety and well-being, I have stopped making the effort to encourage them to see for themselves…..should it come to fruition, they will hamper the efforts long invested in and could become a detriment……
And that sucks when you consider the implications that comes to mind…..
Sadly, this country has stopped being a nation of "We the People" and is now a country of "We the Elite".
Spoke to a mutual friend two days ago via phone. Was a real pleasure.
I've lost your number when I closed my phone in my tail gate, please resend via BC. Smart phone……..yes, smart owner………no.
As bad as socialism and communism are, what is infecting them is Islamism which is a true evil over and above the other two.
Two words…ak 47…or is that one word? Or four? Oh well, I got mine
Yes, but as socialism and communism rots, the void is being filled by Islam. The absolute worst of the three.
I also learned smartphones are incapable to holding their breath under water…
On the way bro….
Europe will be forced to consolidate financially under Germany. And, Merkle has already
said this will necessitate 'Political Consolidation.'
Europe does not have a strong commitment to Freedom. They are
not the USA.
They just won't let us "We The People," in on insider trading.
Our Washington politicos are spending more time fattening their own portfolios and retirements, than tending to the business of government.
Socialism and Communism are tools of Islamism, no doubt about that.
Newt Gingrich : Obama's Radical Ideology Will Be An Issue If I Am The GOP Nominee – 11/30/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDHmguOpgY8
This is what happens when you shovel money to the unproductive for 40 years. There's no such thing as a free lunch, boys and girls, yet 47 percent of Americans think otherwise. They are about to be hit in the face with a club called reality.
I would lean towards China being that World Leader.
Hey Europe, how's that free lunch working out for ya?
The goal is to avoid a total collapse by making the countries of Europe become further integrated with one another. That's what all this talk about a "fiscal union" represents.
Further, I'm not entirely sure a collapse would usher in an era of nationalism. Sure, that would be the case for some countries. Others would view the collapse as a strategic opportunity to consolidate power even more, and if war is required, so be it. And let's not even get started on how big a push there'd be for a global fiat currency.
There's just too much here for the global government folks to pass up. I see all of this as playing right into their hands.
I agree, Petroglyph, but am curious as to when you think it will happen–before or after the election? Or will it be the catalyst to postpone the election? Also, as I respect your opinon and glean a great deal of information or affirmation (of my own beliefs) reading your posts, would you recommend getting completely out of the markets, including retirement monies, because the powers that be will, indeed, confiscate them?
Thank you for the kind words. Please remember, I am just a man, and it is only an opinion I can share.
I have pulled completely out of the markets, except for commodities. Natural gas, gold, silver and oil. The Government has been trying to "nationalize" our 401k's for years, they are currently working on it feverishly as we speak. You decide…..
Think of the elections this way: The O admin knows, emphatically knows they cannot win the election. The polls are highly manipulated and do not reflect the real numbers, at all. He won't win based on his record. So, that is why Soros and his peeps are actively fomenting war in the M.E., urging riots with the OWS crowd. The Euro will crash, and soon. The Fed, early this year digitally printed about 7 trillion…..which went to the elites worldwide, all people who want the one world utopia. They know what is coming, they are setting up the entire system to collapse on their watch, when they want it to. It will likely happen in a matter of 24 hours after they pull the plug. They don't want an election, they want martial law and to suspend the Constitution, it has been their goal and dream all along.
When? Probably spring, or maybe summer. Once the war between Israel and Iran starts (which it will) the timeline will be shortly after that.
Remember, this is only my opinion and I could be wrong……but I don't think so.
<DIV>The could have and should have been the World Leader centuries ago, especially since they invented gun powder and had the world's very largest fleet of ships.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Then, there was Attilla, the Hun trampling the countryside, as well.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Bible prophecy in Revelation, towards the end states that a 200,000,000 man Army, called “Kings of the East” gets wiped out North of Jerusalem. That's the very last war listed in the scriptures…I believe their Army is that big right now..—
Obama is not responsible for the technology that has globalized world stock markets. That is an irreversible trend that must be managed because it will never be stopped. Just like with the bomb, you can't get the genie back into the bottle.
Communism has nothing to do with global financial problems. If anything it's unregulated capitalism. The capitalist engine only functions properly in a well regulated market environment.
Well then, I guess his evil plan is working to perfection!
See, the funny thing on this list is that everyone knows that Marxism doesn't work, and modern Communism was totally discredited by 1990. But what has happened in baggerland is the words have been redefined to the point that any common definition is meaningless. If everyone you don't agree with is a socialist, then the word becomes useless.
Never hurts to have a few extra groceries in the pantry, but remember the chicken littles of the world have been predicting a total collapse for hundreds of years. If you always predict gloom you'll eventually be right but just not very accurate.
In my experience, when the bad stuff hits it's never what you predicted and certainly not what you expect.
And scared…. all baggers should be very very afraid.
Perhaps the baby jesus will come down and save us all from nazis.
Now that's the spirit! Find the silver lining in this dark cloud. Total economic collapse can be a good thing…
Who do you plan to shoot with your commie rifle?
Go Chiefs! Heal fast Jamaal.
He said as he cashed his benefit check.
"I go on the principle that a public debt is a public curse, and in a Republican Government a greater curse than any other" James Madison
Can you imagine the position of STRENGHT we would have had we NOT followed Socialist Europe's throwing money at welfare problems?
The piper will get paid & We The People will be the payer.
<DIV>How did you know that? But he comes two times…lst to pick up the Believers…2nd return He destroys a 200,000,000 man Army, named “Kings of the East” who cross over a dried up Euphrates River Bed on their way to a point North of Jerusalem…called the Valley of Megiddo, and the modern name is Armageddon.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>You see, Turkey who was destined to not be our ally (EZ Chs 38 & Ch 39), has the master controls for all of the dams on the Euphrates River. There are 21 dams. They can therefore, manipulate the water flow, to allow the biblical prophecy to happen.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>As far as Dams are concerned, The Answan Dam gets Nuked by Israel. This releases a body of water, a lake of water that is 20 miles wide and over 200 miles long. I don't know how deep it. However, the end result is that All ofthe Egyptians will have to flee their radioactive land. Egypt will not be habitable for 40 years.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Jesus is not a Baby…His Coming Kingdom, after the war at Armageddon is over with, starts up 35 days after that. So, you see, Democracy will have ended, acdg to the Book of Daniel…The World Powers thattheir own unique start and influence come and go, like actors upon the Stage of Life.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>There's a U.F.O. account in Ezekiel Ch 1.You are really missing out on the excitement of seeing and witnessing bible prophecies appearing and happening right now.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>You can use your Rights to investigate this matter, if you want to. I'm not trying to convince you against your will, my friend..—
Ha…LOL! I deserved that…
The Socialist Economic Model: Never have so many owed so much to so few.
Out of the spawning grounds of death and destruction, cannibalistic socialism was born. This ugly parasite, after having consumed everything else, must now consume itself. That is, unless we continue to finance their self destruction. They have finally run out of other people's money…
Thank you for your response, Petro. Sorry it's taken me so long to get to it. You echo what I've read, seen and believe to be true. Funny you should say ". . . the elites . . . who want the one world utopia." "Utopia?" Who's "utopia?" Certainly not yours and mine.
I'm unfortunately still somewhat in the market and have been up and down about getting out. I guess I'm continuing to hope for the best. It's difficult for me to comprehend that the U.S. as we know it will be no longer. (Sad to say I suffer from the "normalacy bias.") Frankly, I can't believe they actually think we're going to allow them to declare martial law before the election and suspend the Constitution. Even a large number of Obama supporters won't go along with that. We aren't sheep like the Europeans and Brits. They have to be calculating that such a move will cause a civil war. Do you think that's the plan–and will they use the troops they're bringing home from Iraq against us?
Here's a link to the US Army website and a job posting they have now. It is for an Internment/resettlement specialist. With this NDAA bill being passed, it will allow for indefinite detention and imprisonment of US citizens, without trial or due process. They have infiltrated our military over the past 20 years and a lot of the current men and women serving declare their loyalty to Obama and not their oath. This I know for fact. Most of those retired, will uphold their oath and not be loyal to the Dictator Obama
You decide:
http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-car...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va...
<DIV>The Russians have recently moved 3 warships into Syrian Waters.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>The U.S.A. has moved some of its 6th fleet into the area.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Damascus will be flattened acdg to Isaiah Ch 17. Syria destroyed and not habitable for 40 years.—
Luckily for humanity, you thumpers are usually wrong. But if you make enough doomsday predictions you will get one right every 20 years or so.
With the breakup of the EU Nationalism will no doubt arise in Europe, Dangerous yes, but might be the only way to remove the old Socialists and Communists that have been destroying the European Continent for decades. Personal injury
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