Why Do We Accept Union Violence?
by PubliusAsks Bill Frezza over at RealClearMarkets:
Things sure turned ugly fast in the recent Verizon strike. The Associated Press reported 70 acts of sabotage in the first week. A New Jersey judge had to issue an injunction banning members of the Communications Workers of America from “Dropping, spreading, throwing, placing or otherwise causing nails, glass, cinder block, spikes, feces, clubs, rocks, screws, or puncture devices of any kind, or other object or debris to be thrown or strewn in, on, or about Verizon’s driveways, parking lots, entrances, exits, vehicles and adjoining roads to any of Verizon’s property or at any work site.” Investigative reporters may be nowhere to be seen, but thanks to cell phone cameras some nasty videos are beginning to pop up on the web.
According to the National Institute for Labor Relations Research there have been 4,400 recorded acts of labor violence since 1991. The Teamsters lead the pack with 454, as one would expect from an organization once infiltrated by organized crime. The Teamsters have plenty of company, yet few offenders are called to account. In the Homestead tradition, law enforcement tends to melt away when a union goes on a rampage. Barely three percent of violent crimes committed by union members lead to an arrest or conviction.
This can only happen due to public acceptance.
If violent behavior on the part of unions was met with the same kind of opprobrium meted out to child molesters it would disappear in a heartbeat. Let’s face it, these are our neighbors. In all other respects they are normal people. They would never dream of walking into a supermarket and beating up the cashier if she charged more for a can of soup than what some union boss determined was the “right” price. Yet these same people, when dealing with differences of opinion over labor prices, think nothing of becoming raging hooligans, or worse. The only way to make them ashamed of their violent behavior is to name and shame them.
More often than not, it’s not management that union members beat up to protect their turf. Like any schoolyard bully, they pick on the weak not on the strong. Most victims of union violence are unemployed workers looking for a job so they can feed their families. “Scabs,” they call them. Subhuman scum. Untouchables. People who, in the minds of unionists and their enablers, are worthy of the same kind of vile abuse that Klu Klux Klansman used to dish out to African Americans that didn’t know their place.
Speak out. Report what you see. Post it on the web. Anyone who looks the other way is part of the problem.
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One word: RICO.
I would just love to see the discovery process.
Amazing how one of the internet's biggest conservative blogs has no mention of Libya at all. Hmmm. Wonder why.
You all hate Obama so much that you can't be brought to say something positive about this great development for US foreign policy and for freedom.
I'll remember this the next time you all claim to be great patriots and lovers of America. You don't love America. You just love the Republican party.
We accept union violence because somewhere along the way we allowed our public sector…including the police forces and government workers….to become unionized. It's a matter of dishonor.
Another word: Racketeering.
the short answer? "We" don't. "They" do. and this country is running hard up against a showdown between Us vs. Them.
WE don't.
The media does. It fits The Narrative.
Next question?….
Union violence is no different from KKK violence. It is meted out with the intention of intimidation.
Let me guess, you blurt out off-topic remarks during group therapy at the "home", too.
I would comment on Idiot Amin Obama, but that would further your troll.
Are you sure this is a "great development for US foreign policy and for freedom?"
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/22/libyan-draft-...
All frustrations in life are due to unmet expectations.
The POTUS started speaking about 10 minutes before you posted.
Guess you're gonna have to just cry about it, or wait?
And "we" don't hate Obama, we hate his policies, his lies and the way he disregards the Constitution. Saying "You all hate Obama so much" are your words, not ours…
Oh I see now! None of your presidential candidates have even commented yet on the issue. How presidential of them. I guess it takes a while to figure out how to spin an issue when you've essentially been proven totally wrong.
And people on this site need to wait to hear what Michelle Bachman has to say before they can form an opinion.
I dare anyone on this site to tell me what their position is before your candidates take a position. Go ahead.
"According to the National Institute for Labor Relations Research there have been 4,400 recorded acts of labor violence since 1991"
And watch out for the first TEA Party related incident if it ever will occur….. all we will see on the news is about the terrorist, and violent TEA Party from MSM.
This is outrageous, but everything this administration and their lunatic supporters does is outrageous, so maybe we all are just anesthetized and numb from it all.
Support the Freedom from Union Violence Act, sign the petition here: http://righttoworkcommittee.org/fuva_petition.asp...
"Amazing how one of the internet's biggest conservative blogs has no mention of Libya at all. Hmmm. Wonder why."
There is a link at the very top of the Home page that will take you to BigPeace … where they are covering stories on Libya. Since this seems to be the premise for your verbal excoriation upon visitors to this site, will you subsequently rescind your vitriol? Pardon me while I hold my breath in anticipation.
Perhaps, if you looked at the Big Peace listing at the top of the page, you might find another place to troll.
Since we know so little about who the revolutionaries are, I would reserve judgement on whether this is a "great development." I rather suspect that this will turn out worse than you would project.
BTW, I can't say that I either hate Obama or that I am a Republican. I do despise the damage that his policies are casuing though.
We don't accept it, but we don't enforce the law either. Their union brethren, the POLICE, accept and condone and look the other way when it comes to union violence. Cops were pigs when they weren't union. Now they're disgusting, despicable and potential enemies to non-union folks; dangerous and above the law.
"We" don't. Progressives and other union members do, and unfortunately that includes the majority of media and police.
WTF are you talking about??
We used to have HUAC, McCarthy, loyalty oaths and God. Now we have crap. What do you expect????
I think I'll wait and see who steps into Gadhafi's (or however he's spelling it today) sandals before I celebrate anything. I keep remembering how happy everyone was when the Shah of Iran was removed from power. That happiness did not last long once the mullahs took over. BTW just how much did you praise Bush when Saddam fell from power? Personally I reserve my praise for the fighting men and women who deserve it.
Congratulations to the rebels for winning. Now comes the hard part; starting a new government that is democratically elected, has the support of the Libyan people and respects and protects human rights, women's rights, homosexual's rights and the rights of non-Muslims. Come talk to us when that has happened.
Since you're pining for mention of the Libyan war you might want to visit one of Big Government's sister sites Big Peace: http://bigpeace.com/jcarafano/2011/08/22/libyas-d...
There are other articles on the subject as well. The articles probably don't spend as much time kissing Obama's feet as you would like, but they are covering the subject.
Kenyan12-
As a couple have already noted, we have had extensive coverage of the Libya situation at our sister site, BigPeace. To your point, time will tell whether this is a great development for freedom of the US foreign policy. I trust you were equally excited about the fall of Sadaam and the Taliban and join us in hoping to see the day that Cubans and Venezuelans are also free from tyranny.
Go to the Brietbart home page moron. There you will find 4 blogs on Libya. Typical ignorant leftist asshat.
Here is my position moron: You are an ignorant leftist assclown.
He is upset that there are no posts on Libya here. He is very easily confused.
Is it the drugs, parasite, or were you born this way?
Seriously? Libya? Why doesn't he go to BigPeace.com?
What a tool…
I gave you my position in another response.
Here's Perry, Romney and Huntsman on the subject: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-republ...
Be patient and eventually others will chime in. Not everybody rushes in heedlessly to comment on issues without knowing the full story.
Project much?
My position is… you flunked out of troll school.
Seriously! Go up a few posts to his original Libya rant. Why doesn't he go to BigPeace? He's a dimwitted proglodyte after all.
Most of the time Mike, we ignore this idiot. All he ever does is try to argue invalid points.
A good question would be how he has a +152 rep score when every post is a negative?
And thank you for all you efforts of late.
How about if you check out BigPeace.com fool, since that deals with most everything international.
And since you bring up what Obama has done, what has Obama done that is great in development for US foreign policy and freedom?
I break wind in your beard. Should of never been in Libya in the first place moron.
Speak for yourself, I believe the man to be a Marxist through and through and I despise and detest him – and likewise all the other half brained idiots and communist elites that seem to infect this government.
Mind you that does not mean I wish the man harm, but I truly believe he is an evil man.
Unions are entitled to be violent because they are the VICTIMS of business. Victims are not punished in this society be it "demonstrators" who are burning down cities or Palestinians attacking Israel. It is the leftist mindset.
Is a union goon's brain a vital organ?
My position is you are a dumbass.
Union violence is accepted because of the communist / socialist infiltration of the unions, federal government / Dem party and the press. Yes, unbelievable it is tolerated in the 21st century.
Too late. That vicious Tea Party guy selling flags hit those SEIU gentle folks over and over with his face on their fists! Poor guys might have broken their hands!! At least thats how the jury saw it, and the MSM reported it.
pipe down, dorque. you're getting more spittle on your bib and your mommy's gonna be pissed again.
Like imigration? Enforce what you like, ignore the rest? the Black Panthers should be thankful.
Amazing how one of the internet's biggest trolls has no mention of the articles on Big Peace at all. Hmmmm. Wonder why.
Kenyan12 hates freedom/conservatives so much that he can't be brought to say something positive about the developmental articles.
I'll remember this next time he claims how greatly knowledgable he is. He doesn't love America. He just loves being a useful idiot.
You get what you allow.
This idiot union has been playing the same radio commercial several times on the local radio stations in my hometown. They keep acting like they're the ones who are being discriminated against and at least imply that Verizon is an absolutely evil corporation out to destroy them. And this is after the NJ court issued the injunction against these useful idiots about their hateful protesting.
We don't, the press does.
Keny, could you be any less relivent. I am going to try to be nice to you here, even though it is far more than what you actually deserve.
WTF, do you even read the articles at all before posting or do you just post what is already writen for you. Do you even have the capability to read or comprehend a discussion, and then do so without decending into some blind hate filled post that is so far off base that even you know your already lost.
In other words, if this is beyond your limited intellect, I am trying to say is this. QUIT BEING A RETARDED DUMBASS FOR ONCE IN YOUR PATHETIC LIFE.
You do love your Barry, don't you?
ummm how is it great for the US? The new consistution that they are drafting is based 100% on sharia law which is worse for us and for their people then Gaddafhi ever was.
Tea Partiers are called terrorists, yet they have done ZERO violence…
Unions are violent at the ehart and commit violent acts frequently, yet they're American…
Our Prez violates the constitution, goes to war without Congress approval… (I could go on and on)… and anyone who disagrees or calls him on it is a racist…
It is a strange world we live in!
Go Reagan on them, fire'em ala PATCO.
The best part about the union strike is they lost. They all went back to work because the union bosses didnt want to pay out millions to the workers that they were entilited to.
How goes it K?
I see his position clearly. Ass out.
As you can tell with Kenyan12 along with other trolls, all they ever show is hate. A hater is always going to hate, yet to throw them off, instead of hating them which will only feed their hate, we should love and tolerate them with eduction, economics, and policies that actually work.
And Libya is our problem HOW Moron? It's NOT. It's a civil war and unconstitutional for us to even BE THERE TOOL!
Don't feed the Kenyan troll. He/she/it is nothing more than a distraction and a complete and utter loser.
apparently you didn't see that I was mocking him with exactly what he wrote but put the shoes on the other feet. I wouldn't waste my time if it weren't so fun. I fully understand that these trolls don't want to be educated just get their wing wongs up by thinking they have got us all riled when in reality alls most of us do is think they are pathetic and miserable in life.
It ONLY against the law IF someone actually investigates the incident.
I see UNION I think THUG
As has been pointed out by many, I will wait to see what the final outcome in Libya is moron. Right now looks like radical Islam is the winner
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/22/libyan-draft-...
If we did not have the Second Amendment, we would have much more Union violence.
Brain? Not sure that word can be entered into the conversation.
You tell me to speak for myself, then basically agree with me.
You despise and detest, but you don't hate, eh?
Hate is a tool for the left…
<sigh>
It will be interesting to see what happens when the union of American Federal Employees protests against presidential hopeful Thad McCotter's office on Friday, 8/11 now that he's just starting to get some attention… http://www.sacbee.com/2011/08/22/3853479/union-co...
"A good question would be how he has a +152 rep score when every post is a negative?
I'm sure there's some lefty blog out there that uses the same IntenseDebate commenting system and user ratings this site has. It's cross platform and follows the user, not the site. That would be my guess anyhow…? I know WordPress users can login from the same place.
Anyone can use the IntenseDebate commenting on their blog or webpage. The possibilities are endless really, and I'm surprised that more trolls haven't caught on to this simple fact…Errr, wait….Maybe I'm not surprised…?!?!?
Otay, K–been kinda busy last few days. You?
I refer to it in it's most basic sense….
down at the very bottom of Maslow's pyramid, if not lower…
Because there are so many deaf, dumb and blind citizens in the United States of America who refuse to accept the truths of what 'is…is'! The unions of today are not the unions of yesterday that our fathers and grandfathers belonged too…they have been hijacked by the Democratzi 'loons' and become their new 'brown shirts'! Doing their muscle work and bringing in all the monies to support their candidates to keep control!
If you still belong to one, why?
BANISH THE UNION ‘GOONS’ – BOTH PUBLIC & PRIVATE
IS YOUR STATE “RIGHT TO WORK”? – http://www.nrtw.org/rtws.htm
+++++
MICHIGAN SEIU STEALING MEDICAID PAYMENTS FOR UNION DUES!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4g9ILNUr_8&fe...
A TESTIMONIAL OF A FORMER UNION ‘GOON’ –
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/us/22union.html...
Good, all things considered.
I don't think it is a matter of accepting. It is a matter of cross Union affiliation, as in IBEW friends with SEIU and friends of Public Unions which back Dem crook lawmakers whom all just happen to see nothing wrong..
MSMediacritic, one word, and one I say only when I really, really mean it.
AMEN.
GunWalker.
Point taken, you are right 'hate' may be too strong a word, my point really should have focused on that I feel saying 'we hate his policies' is just not enough for me.
My bad brother.
Unlike you, we are able to think more than 5 seconds into the future. Sure, getting rid of Quaddafi is great, but what fills the void? These are the things that must be stopped and thought about, not just allowed to hurtle break-neck through space. These are the lessons coming out of Egypt. Was Mubarak a bad guy? Sure. Are things better in Egypt with him gone? Not so much. The old adage goes, 'If you don't know where you're going, you'll never get there." We know where we'd LIKE Libya to go, but will it? Only time will tell, and it's WAY too early to be crowing.
On the union front, I posed a question this morning in the forums at my local paper. Maybe folks here could hook me up seeing as how nobody there could come up with any answers.
I asked, other than the union factor, why are police and firefighters under a different chain of command and a different budget? Why is there a duplicate chain of command? Why not combine them and do away with the unnecessary expense of two structures.
I pointed out unions as the only reason I could come with, especially in the volunteer fire department arena. Anybody here got any other answers as to why this is not a path to shrink the cost of government without negatively effecting those services?
In fairness, I believe Rick Perry has already called Kenyan12 an "ignorant leftist assclown."
However that may have been on MSNBC, so I have no idea what the context was.
and this troll got 152 points HOW?
Something is rotten in Denmark…
Unions by their very existence is Socialists!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Instead of being paid what your worth, they get paid for who they are!
uh, no.
Next?
I do hate that Marxist Obama, and I don't trust anything he does or says. In my opinion, Iran is a much bigger player in all this than Obama, so let's just see how good this will be for America.
only in the sense that a stegosaurus had a 'brain'.
They are ambulatory, which indicates lower motor functions. Presumably they can provide food for themselves as well. But reasoning skills and the ability to learn?
Nope…
"We" don't accept union violence and if it perpetrated against me or mine, you can be sure I will defend myself and mine. The only "acceptance" comes from the LSM and the marxist Left who believe that any violence perpetrated against the Right is not only acceptable , but necessary in order to get their way. Watch for European-type riots very soon as more and more unions are rejected by the American people. After all, it's the Chicago way!
lower.
Much…
Show me a company or government that is Union and I will show you a company or government in financial trouble.
Beaten to the punch once again! Damn it!!
Remember, if unions don't get their way they bring out the baseball bats and break you head!!!!!!!
No worries.
I'm sure you just got caught up with the emotions it all invokes, and I can totally relate.
so you would rather have a dictator than a democracy huh?
It's too bad your big dream guy is such a flop. That tingle down the leg is starting feel more like a big pain in the behind, right?
Obviously I meant the blog itself. None of the sites bloggers have written an article about it still. And this has been going on since last night.
How is it you have no opinion now?
As long as Holder and Obama run things, equal justice will be a joke. It will be up to voters to flip these folks out of their bunkers and back under their rocks.
Then give me a thumbs down. People like my comments what can I say.
AAAA YES, another congenital idiot graduate of the government run educational system!!!!! ooopoos, i should have said
government indoctrination system.
Amen.
So you prefer a terrorist dictator to a democracy. What a champion of freedom an conservative ideals you are.
And yet you supported Iraq I guess. A conflict in which we had the same goal… yet it took years, thousands of lives, and cost us respect in the world because we did it alone.
In contrast, we did this entirely from the air, in a few months, and with the support of the world.
Intense Debate must be servicing the NAMBLA site…
No other explanation….
Did you celebrate when Saddam fell? Yes? Why not now then? Give Obama credit? No? Why not?
Hey, you tee'd it up,
I just smacked it down the fairway.
I believe you still get an assist on your stats.
What's purple with red leaking out of it?
If the Obama floodgates are not shut to Illegal Aliens & Islamists we'll continue to have these violent protests because these people have nothing to lose. They haven't contributed to America. They just want to get on the gravy train that WE provide for AMERICAN CITIZENS.
This game of DISPLACING & REPLACING AMERICANS, that Obama plays, is very dangerous. He's making it so that we HAVE to cow-tow to Foreigners?! Really?
So for instance any Pres Candidate that is pro Amnest is undesirable right? but if Obama continues to PACK America with any Hispanics/latinos that he can funnel in, then we have to put a pro-Amnesty Candidate up there because their numbers are increasing exponentially? NO! – - We are so heavily infiltrated with people who see America as their ATM machine and that it's disgusting!
NO Presidential Candidates should be cleared if they will not put a stop & reversal to the exploding, dangerous influx of foreign invaders. NO PRO AMNESTY CANDIDATES. How about PRO AMERICAN!
If you are ever golfing in the group in front of me, the fairway is the safest place to be.
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