Friday Free-for-All: Libya Edition

The public does NOT have a 'right to know', when it comes to combat! I was in total disagreement when Bush let Iraq KNOW, WHEN, and WHERE we were coming! WHY would you even want to tell the enemy what you are going to do, before you do it??? Of course we had troops on the ground…but, I'm thinking it was NOT Obama's idea to keep it secret!

God Bless our troops!!

Yes, it goes against some of the main philosophies outlined in Sun Tzu's Art of War.

"The man who lets a leader prescribe his course is a wreck being towed to the scrap heap." Ayn Rand

I think those pilotless drones are the best thing since sliced bread.

Dear Mr. Obama,

please return your peace prize. You don't deserve it.

Sincerly,

NOBEL!

Remember everyone. This isn't a war. It's a 'kinetic military action' during a 'humanitarian' mission.

What a farce! This fool has us choosing sides in a Libyan civil war.

The community-organizer-in-chief has turned Libya into Somalia. The man's irresponsibility and incompetence have grave consequences all around the world. An empty suit in the white house, diminishing the USA and making the world a more dangerous place. What a nightmare we are living.
http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2011/03/2...

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

~George Orwell

From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of . . . . .

Let's go Air Force…Combat Control Teams Specialists. They jump so that others may die more accurately.

On a side note, could I just comment on the incompetency of the Army/Air Force/Navy/Marines/Coasties/Civil Air Patrol/Boy Scouts 1134 or anyone else who thinks the Osprey should be included in their inventory?

It has one small problem.

Engine failure, either one, especially in VTOL mode, is ALMOST ALWAYS FATAL. For everyone.

Youda thunk they'd have noticed that when they were, you know, at the cocktail napkin stage, maybe.

It has become quite obvious over the centuries that our military personnel are commanded not by uniformed officers but rather, inept empty silk suits, who are the TRUE KILLERS of our treasures. If our brave men and women were allowed to fight a war the way wars should be fought, there would be less American blood shed on the battlefield and less time spent on the soil of the enemy. Politics is what kills our troops…

Not enemy combatants….

God bless our troops and their families!!!!

Our troops are being used to advance the Islamist agenda. This is becoming more clear each passing day. Egypt went to the Muslim brotherhood (the Ideological birthplace of the political Islamism that is spreading). Yemen, Libya, and Tunisia are going "democratic", which means mob rule and the mob wants Islamism. Islamism is just has dangerous, and in many ways similar to Communism, Socialism, Fascism etc. Why are we allowing this Administration to shift our war on Islamism to one of being allies with the ISlamist that want to kill our way of life??

That is not "Troop Troops", you know, No Troops means like on the WWII style, there are not battalions after battalions storming the beach kind of thing.

Barry does have the approval of the UN, who needs the Constitution?

a) Since when does the truth matter to the turd POTUS?

b) Where is our republican Congress?

They better be out this Sunday talking this up in the media!!!!!

The muslims are making FOOLS out of us again.

The muslims are making FOOLS of us AGAIN.

This Libyan thingy is a test run…the WH getting a feel for how this CIC power actually works. The real war is gonna be an election year surprise.

If Obama goes after the Ayatollahs in say, the summer of 2012, he knows the GOP could not help but support him. He also knows the majority of Americans would likewise see this as just war against a true enemy who is plainly after a nuke that it will clearly use at the first opportunity.

It would of course be pure cynicism for The One to do this given his obvious anti-Israel predilection. But the Arab world hates the Persians too and he would get support from that audience as well.

The road to Nov 2012 will be filled with surprises. With MSM carpet bombing US with pro-Obama news as Team Obama and their $ ONE BILLION $ ready to reelect his OneNess combining forces, those of us who want regime change in Washington will need a mighty effort to make it so.

Sounds like the A-Team movie…

"No, he's trying to fly a tank."

Kinetic Military Action……ha!!!

I can see it now….someone will use this BS twist of words for their own ass-covering someday……"honey, it wasn't an extramarital affair…..it was simply a kinetic sexual action….you know, like when Whoopie said it wasn't rape-rape"….

Military action in Libya is not unconstitutional. Unwise maybe, but not unconstitutional.

Why does the Executive carry with him (well a subordinate actually carries it for him but it is never very far from him) the nuclear football and the biscuit? The answer to that is simple, it is on his word that the codes be opened and executed. It is on the shoulders of the Commander in Chief to carry the burden. The fact of the matter is that directing the military in the moment is the President's responsibility and rightly so. To check this power, this authority, the Congress controls the money. If after a short time period the Congress decides that the President has acted improperly, it has the authority to over ride the President, just it can regarding lawmaking. Is vetoing a bill unconstitutional? Nope! It is a constitutional exercise of due assigned authority. Action, like Libya, is no different.

It is nonsense to say that ONLY the Congress holds the authority to exercise the military power of this nation. That flies in the face of the checks and balances aspect of our system itself. It would be a centralization of power that our Founders stood against and toiled so hard to prevent!

Think it through folks, do not take the progressive liberal bent of this argument. Congress does NOT, nor should it have, SOLE authority over military action. The Founders and Framers put in place a dual role and enumerated powers specifically to avoid any SOLE authority of this nature.

If Congress disagrees with what the Commander in Chief has done, if they find the use of due authority to have been abused, then it is their responsibility to refuse to fund operation after 60 days. If they find exercise of the power to have been criminal, then impeach and convict Obama to remove him from office so it cannot happen again. Voters also have that option come election time.

But the deployment of our military by the Commander in Chief is NOT unconstitutional in and of itself. President;s have this due authority and it is one very salient reason why our Founder and Framers sought to and did PROTECT that lone position with very specific and unique requirements that no other government position requires. Most notable among these is the NATURAL BORN CITIZEN provision. See, not just any old Citizen qualifies, it takes a special kind of Citizen to qualify, only stand alone allegiance, created by both parents being Citizens, can qualify a person for this position.

Make no mistake, I despise the usurper in office now, but I will not compromise the tenets of the Constitution in order to make a case against him the way his supporters did to put the usurper in office to begin with. Neither should the rest of the Patriots that write for or frequent these boards.

We have a right to know afterward, but not prior.

Let the Middle East Implode for now. They're doing us a favor. Let them topple all their Dictators, especially Iran. When the new leaders are being formed we need to be sure that the barbaric extreme Islamists do not take power, with their 7th Century barbarian minds and jihad against all non Islamists.

The lives of our military, and our tax dollars need to be withheld. The Middle East, Islam and terrorism are our biggest enemy and that is still our focus.

Iran is ready to strike US with nuclear weapons. They are this-close to positioning them off the coast of the U.S. and in South America, our other enemy, and we have a marxist muslim traitor at the helm. Therefore it is up to Congress to exert it's power according to the will of, We The People.

Boots on the ground, boots on the ground, B. Hussein's been lying like a clown. The brothers think yo black, but yo really sorta brown, but it really don't matter cause you got boots on the ground. The brothers got behind ya and they voted you in, but they wasn't hip to your Chicago spin. Yo buddy Rev. Wright yeh hes yo guy, he filled yo head with crap and taught you how to lie. Now you do it really good and you can't tell it true and we all should be knowin that lying's really you. Ronny Reagan showed you how to do it but you waited too long and now you really blew it. Libya ain't for our boys (and girls) to die although I know they would be willin, cause the USA is the place you should by
DRILLIN.

History repeats itself. . . . . Tripoli. How many times now, is this the third or fourth?

So, when are the reactionary leftists going to start protesting Obama's illegal war for oil?

Don't think its the muslims making fools of us, we and especially France has managed to make us the biggest fools on the block.

We go in to a conflict without really understanding the end goal, no one wants to lead the war, we want to arm the rebels but don't know who they are, say we want a no fly zone but justify bombing gadaffis army and followers even though these are also Libyans……. I could go on

Although I don't like Iran, I wonder who has caused more wars – the US or Iran.

Iran's build up of weapons and power in the region is directly linked to the wests involvement in countries surrounding them and through the need of self preservation. America only managed to develope all this super technology through the need of self preservation during the cold war. By isolating them, we have managed to let them think for themselves, developing their own weapon systems – hence the wests fear of them.

So, if "war" has become 'Kinetic Military Action", does that mean that our "Warriors" have become

'Kinetic Military Action Figures'?