Saturday Open Thread: Leaks Edition

Well EXCUUUUSE ME, but you will have to explain to me why the most powerful DAMN country in the
world cannot put a stop to this freak of nature and his sick little games.

We have multiple intelligence services, the State Dept, etc, yet this little worm continues to spew this
DIARRHEA from sea to shining sea.

Is this yet another example of how weak our country has become?

Sorry, but I'm not buying this. This pale waif is being paid off to do this. Now someone needs to get
on the ball and figure who's behind him.

My first guess would be Soros, Strong, et al. We have to begin looking somewhere.

Is there a Congressional investigation of this matter? If not, WHY?

I swear, it seems as if WE THE PEOPLE need to storm DC and take over every office and Dept of respon-
sibility. Can OUR elected officials do NOTHING?

PLEASE explain to me why we continue to allow this to go on, please.

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE???
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What disgusts me more is that whoever is leaking the information has not been caught and isn't in prison and then executed for treason in a time of war!!

Federal officials have arrested an Army intelligence analyst who boasted of giving classified U.S. combat video and hundreds of thousands of classified State Department records to whistleblower site Wikileaks, Wired.com has learned.

PFC Bradley Manning, 22, of Potomac, Maryland, was stationed at Forward Operating Base Hammer, 40 miles east of Baghdad, where he was arrested nearly two weeks ago by the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division. A family member says he’s being held in custody in Kuwait, and has not been formally charged.

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The timing….that's all I can say, its all about the timing. WaPo finally has an article on Holder and the DOJ's (mis)handling of the voter intimidation crap…and then, directly thereafter…voila`….wikileaks, part deux <eye roll>

-edited to add : giving credit where its due JohnK144 first blogged about this -http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/10/22/washington-post-blockbuster-confirms-worst-fears-about-holder-justice-dept-race-policies/#IDComment105579226

There is plenty of outrage, unfortunately those that have the rage, haven't the office to do jack nor shiitte about it….yet.

And that's the key right now…..yet.

So…is *this* the supposed "October Surprise"? <yawn> Its not changing the outcome of November, f*ckwits, but thanks (not) for playing.

You mean the Iraqis who are/were being KILLED and MAIMED by "insurgents" funded by Iran and Allah knows who else – were "less than kind" to the insurgent MURDERERS? WHAT? I'm <<<shocked>>> I tell you – <<<SHOCKED>>>!

Like they "killed" them and stuff – like in a WAR? WHAT? No Marquis of Queensbury sissy "rules of engagement" apply to Free Iraqi forces? No Geneva Convention "three hots and a cot" treatment? ER – WHAT???

The only good Muslim oppressor/insurgent is a DEAD Muslim oppressor/insurgent – like Airborne used to say – "Kill them all – let Allah sort them out."

Europeans are such pu$$ies since WWII ended. This Belgique bastard should be hunted down and shot for passing American military sensitive data – data that could get Americans killed – which is what he WANTS.

"Black Ops" his ass, catch him and drop in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean with a compass and a copy of the Quran – see how far that gets him…

He, this Bradley Manning character/criminal, went up to Boston and was rolling around MIT looking for someone with the technical "know how" to steal and download large volumes of sensitive information and aparently found one or more "accomplices" to his crimes. It came out when he was popped, but that part of the story kinda of "subsided" – but I'd guess there's some very nervous eggheads at MIT

(or Harvard – I forget which anti-American liberal run university is involved – I couldn't afford or pass the entry exams into either!)

p.s. This Manning guy looks like he's a DADT refugee – he's the whimpiest Army guy EVER – red hair and freckles and into Lady Gaga and stuff (I'm guessing about the later!)

I'll be straight up with you. You second sentence is the only one that matters. To compare…somehow….the audacity that was the climategate fustercluck, to this release of potentially sensitive information that could place our military in un necessary harm's way….I can't wrap my mind around. One was unbelievable farce and a grab for more money, this….this has far more heft in the way of harm to not just our service members, but to our national security.

Yes, we have a right to yell at the media for being one sided….we have a right to know what's going on….unless it involves our security.

Put simply- its treason.

Ya, but this involves internal Iraqissues – mainly that Iraqi forces were um…"less than hospitible" to the enemy and terrorist murderers infiltrating THEIR country. We can TELL the Free Iraquis "don't kill the nice terrorist fellows" but they don't or won't heed that hollow advice.

Like I said elsewhere – it seems that restrictive "rules of engagement" are er "lost" on Iraqi who are fighting an existential battle against Iranian backed KILLERS. I'd tend to error on the "no trials" – "no mercy" side of things.

The Climate issue seems to be largely a ginned up (non) crisis – so exposing that is totally different – it's a global hoax and not an immediate threat to millions of innocent lives.

Julian here is intent on damaging the U.S. and demeaning our collective reputation as much as striving for some kind of "justice". Remember – dhimmified Europeans want to diminish the U.S. and bolster Islamic "Republics" in some twisted misconception that distancing themselves from us elevates them in Muslim's eyes. It doesn't – it just hastens their collective DOOM.

This "Casper the Ghost" looking little bastard isn't a FRACTION of the man that U.S. soldier in the newspaper picture having a smoke is – not even close. I love to see a MMA match between the G.I. and this Euro-trash – platform shoe wearing – disco dwelling vampire.

U.S. soldier in 10 – 10 mili-SECONDS!

Not to diminsh the deaths, but I was surprised that in 8 years of war only 100,000 were killed. That's averages out to about 12, 500 a year.

I thought code pink said it was millions?

Do we know if all those deaths were at the hands of the American soldiers because I wouldn't be surprised to find out a huge number were from the insurgents blowing up civilians or do the leaks only support the Ameri-phobes viewpoint?

For most of television history, sitcoms have been about families. From “The Dick Van Dyke Show” to “All in the Family” to “The Cosby Show,” TV shows have generally featured husbands and wives, parents and kids.

But over the past several years, things have shifted. Today’s shows are often about groups of unrelated friends who have the time to lounge around apartments, coffee shops and workplaces exchanging witticisms about each other and the passing scene.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/22/opinion/22brook...

Just to alert everyone, A friend went to Wal-Mart last week. She had her items rung up by the cashier. The cashier hurried her along and didn't give her a receipt. She asked the cashier for a receipt and the cashier was annoyed and gave it to her. My co worker didn't look at her receipt until later that night. The receipt showed that she asked for $60 cash back. She did not ask for cash back! My friend called Wal-Mart who investigated but could not see the cashier pocket the money. She then called her niece who works for the bank and her niece told her this…. This is a new scam going on. The cashier will key in that you asked for cash back and then hand it to her friend who is the next person in line behind you just waiting to collect the money placed on your credit card. Please, check your receipts right away when using credit or debit cards! This is not limited to Wal-Mart, although they are the largest retailer, so they have the most incidents. Make sure you select no cash back and look at the receipt before you leave the line. And if you do happen to ask for cash back make sure the amount you asked for matches what’s on the receipt.

Publius, how can you be 'torn' about this?
This guy is a criminal.
This is no different than giving an enemy your code books.

And WHY is this coward just reporting on the U.S. and the U.K….why doesn't he report on the Iraqui's and the taliban????

Of course this is October Surprise, only question is is it the only one.

YESTERDAY!
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Gee, if I was a socialist president and wanted to undermine a country's military, could I find a better way? And, I cannot be blamed if someone else does it…..just saying.

"Well EXCUUUUSE ME, but you will have to explain to me why the most powerful DAMN country in the
world cannot put a stop to this freak of nature and his sick little games."

Because they don't want to. He suits their agenda. Remember this is the blame Bush and Cheney crowd that will do anything to stay in power. This is timed to be the "October Surprise" from the Democrats. However, they fail to realize, as Bill Clinton once phrased in debate with George H.W. Bush, " It's the economy, stupid".

"Is there a Congressional investigation of this matter? If not, WHY?"

Because they don't want to. It suits their agenda.

In wars of the past, the enemy would wear clothing that clearly defined them as combatants. In Viet Nam, that changed. Now with this new enemy of Islam, they wear plain clothes and look like non-combatants. Only their body language sets them apart. Unfortunately for the true non-combatants they get mixed in because the Islamofascists utilize that cover to protect themselves.

This wikileaks thing is only additional proof that the enemy lies within. They are amongst us and working from the inside to demoralize this great country. The current administration and Democrat Party allow this stuff to proliferate because it suits their agenda. They wish to continue the demoralization and destruction of the American Dream. Recognize this for what it is and vote to oust this regime on November 2!

Publius,

You are torn? Really?

Illegal is ALWAYS Illegal. What this turd and his inside accomplice has done is despicable and should be a capitol offense. I volunteer to be on his firing squad.

'Nuff said!

I need to understand how you Publius on Big Govt. can be "torn" over this or I may have to stop trusting and respecting YOU!

"Splain it to me Luucy!"

CE

Why is Julian Asange still alive?

The US Government should treat Julian Asange no better than Osama Bin Laden and put a $5,000,000 price tag on his head.

His continued leaks endanger our troops and may have already lead to the deaths of several informants and collaborators in theater.

Take him out.

"chokes to death on a sausage,"

Just looking at this "guy", I'm betting he's choked on many "sausages" already. I wouldn't rely on that method…he'd probably enjoy it.

Meanwhile…
What is the Obama administration doing about this damaging little worm…(((( CRICKETS ))))

Gladly.

What one learns about the human body, in order to train, teach, etc in personal weight training- you'd be amazed at all the…things….one picks up.

Going medieval would be the gentlest thing I'd do. Sweet Casper looks like he'd break quickly….tsk.

You and me both are just saying… How did a pip squeak E-3 come to have all of this info and how did a pip squeak E-3 decide to become a traitor? AND really is it just a coincidence that he happened to be there right at this moment in 250 years of history and be the first wiener to do this on such a scale? There are very few if any coincidental occurrences of anything involving the feds and the ruling elite.

Tinfoil hat time!

What if. . . . . This is going to be the "reason" the "excuse" to put "controls" on the internet? What if they USE this to stifle free speech?

Apologies, my """"" key was stuck. Look, I am as pro-military as anyone can get, BUT (as many posters here have stated) why isn't our government doing something to stop this? Well kids, they just might.
And we may all not like the solution coming.

JMHO, one way or another Missy, I don't believe Baracky gives a RAT'S butt about our military.

Considering there are only 2 assholes in the bunch, I guess that's not too bad.

I still stand firm in my opinion. In fact, I'm going to donate to WikiLeaks this morning. At least there is someone out there with some balls.

It's sad that people here support the idea that "as long as it's in the interest of national security" anything goes including illegal activity. So I guess CIA drug trafficking is ok with you as well as their mind control projects and testing plutonium on the mentally challenged? All these things were in national security interests too. What wikileaks is doing is bringing the truth about the war to light. We're paying for it we should know about it. That's democracy. otherwise it's a slide toward totalitarianism.

But you dont trust the government either. That's why you're here right? Oh, I see, it's the liberal government that has to be accountable but as long as it's in the interests of conservatives anything goes. Right wing hypocrisy at it's finest!

First of all, it's ma'am – not sir. Now as to the matter of our troops being put in danger, I do have a problem with that, as you may have noticed in my original post. However, our troops would not be in danger if they were home. I do not believe we should even be in these places anymore. For that matter, I never supported going into Iraq.

I suggest that we bring most of our troops home from around the world. We can then keep a strong national defense, and if we are attacked, I support declaring war and wiping the attacking nation off of the planet. And, no, I am not concerned with what the UN would think of us.

It might be treason if he was American, as he is not, that is not an issue. Now, as you said, the information is potentially sensitive, and that is why I said I have mixed feelings about the matter. As to the troops being in harm's way – bring them home, and that problem is solved.

I don't think his intent is to damage our reputation, which is pretty well shot as far as Europe is concerned anyway. They don't need any help disliking us, and they never have. The only time they were glad to see us was during WWI and WWII. Any other time, we are not "sophisticated" enough to please them.

I agree on the point about the Iraqis. We don't have any control over them, and we never will. That pretty much sums up why I think we shouldn't be there. We shouldn't be babysitting. We took on that responsibility, and now we look bad because they are behaving as they always have and probably always will.

Are we children? A war is being fought in Iraq, civilians get killed, combatants get killed, there is torture, brutal slayings. It's war.

What corroboration is there that these leaks are factual? It's a disinformation campaign.

Mr. Wiki Leak has signed the death warrant for Americans(even Americans that don't agree with the war). There will be American blood spilled because of this guy. He needs to be stopped. It's become a matter of National Security. First, we need to find out his sources. Take out the whole network

Hopefully, there is a Ex-Special Ops mercinary out there that will push this guy in front of a truck one sunny morning.

It's war moron. Bad sh#$%t happens.

Do you know any history? Unfortunately the country has been run by pussy's like you for several decades now. Don't start a war unless you intend to win. That means annihilating the enemy. Absolutely destroying them.

Both Democrats and Republicans decided to fight the Iraq war.

the left made fun of Bush but everyone American should be proud ..WE DID KICK THEIR ASS IN TWO WEEKS !!!

We were at Saddam's front door in TWO WEEKS !!! Mission was "accomplished" but the liberal LEFT took over and got us stuck there for years !!!!

Folks, think about this: U.S. national security info can be hacked into, yet WE THE PEOPLE have BO's college transcripts and written papers secured better than U.S. military info! Odd, wouldn't you say??

What Jane Fonda did and what wikileaks are doing are two completely different things. Jane Fonda did something monumentally stupid. Wikileaks isnt dumping the documents in order to support Islamists. Its essentially no different than when a journalist writes an account of war or what goes on behind the closed doors of government. it's called accountability. Fonda wasnt looking to hold anyone accountable to anything.

And again you're ok with an anything goes attitude as long as it's in the interests of national security even if those actions put you and your freedoms at risk? And you're complaining that liberals want an NHS?

Sis Mary, nice to see you here, been a while since our paths crossed.

"ah your really have to ask???"

NO, Mary… I don''t need to ask… just my way of expressing my frustration on our plight these days.
We all knew this Leftist crowd would take us places we didn't care to go, but wow-wee have they
raked us over the coals, and apparently are no where near finished.

The fact that OUR Fed Gvt seems unable or unwilling to do anything about this guy's antics leaves
me livid, truly. It's not like they haven't had several months to work on the problem, yet the carnage
continues. The fact that this originated in the Pentagon is most troubling, our National Security is the
main issue that is sacred IMO.

Did you just really try and threaten me over the internet?

Perhaps you should take some time and read the leaks, you know get all the facts before you start calling for the death of someone, you sound just like a terrorist.

That pesky first amendment gets in the way. You know its in the document you swore to protect.

This is the reason why I have to stay in the Libertarian party, because Right wing tyrants like yourself want to kill people for practicing their right of freedom of the press.

He is exposing a racket, you know the racket that far left american hating president, 5 star general Dwight d Eisenhower warned us about.

I agree, this is coming from the State Department.

Vunks, I said nothing about killing people, I said take action meaning getting involved and standing up to those who wish to do us harm. Do you have a family? Would you protect them and your family secrets?? In your line of thinking, it would be perfectly fine for me to print your name and address, what possessions you have, your social security numbers, etc. all in the name of the 1st amendment. I do agree with the first amendment but we also have to guard our own security or we will have nothing. Somebody "will" take it.

I don't suppose you swore with your life to protect the Constitution, did you?? Otherwise I think you would know what I'm talking about.

…………."Liberals like nothing more than killing Americans"……………
Not so much
They do hate the death penalty
Let me fix that tho
………."Liberals like nothing more than Aborting Americans"_______
There is a difference in those small feeble minds
/ spit !

I believe in free speech & openess, but I would not do it if the result could cost people thier lives. I wonder if he sleeps well at night?

Yeah, he gives press conferences. What does that tell you? THAT THiS WHOLE THING IS A PUT-ON.

It wasn't Code Pink that came up with that figure. You are being played. Many in the Patriot movement said even before the Afghan release that this guy was clearly a government agent. It is all a show, folks. Maybe your figure doesn't include all those who died as a result of us destroying the infrastructure of the country. You know that they STILL don't have power 24/7 in Bagdhad, right? Ahhh, winning hearts and minds.

Democracies are as stable as the population. What makes you think they can handle democracy?

Iraq WAS an ally until the Zionist interests in the US got jealous.

Julian is an agent. He is releasing propaganda, not data. Mark my words.

BTW, what does Pollard deserve?