Sunday Open Thread: Mockingbird Edition
by PubliusToday, in 1960, To Kill a Mockingbird was published. By an awesome coincidence, Bull Conner was celebrating his 63rd birthday. He probably didn’t realize his world had ended.
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I love the book and I love the movie. Excellent.
Don't forget that Theophilus Eugene Connor was a Democrat!
How times have changed,today Atticus would be a white veteran.
All time great movie. I'm ashamed it took me so long to finally see it.
So I guess MLK was marching against Democrat governors. Image that.
We NEED more AMERICAN'S like this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3cGfrExozQ
55 percent of likely voters think “socialist” is a reasonably accurate way of describing Obama
"To KIll a Mocking Bird", and that movie with Sidney Poitier " A Patch of Blue", and Alex Haleys "Roots", the culture reflects a definite desire of society to move beyond the meaness and illogic of racism. The truth of the matter is that racism is collectivism, socialism. It calls for judging a man by his skin color, his DNA, and the results are always disappointing when you make decisions based on collectivist logic. Capitalism on the other hand is far superior, in that it judges a man solely on his productive ability, and the results are proof of Capitalisms superiority. The results of using socialist methods are rationing.
Very good book and movie.
BHO told Israeli TV that they were suspicious of him because of his middle name Hussein. There's even a song about it:
A Boy Named Hussein
We all knew that at the time.
"55 percent of likely voters think “socialist” is a reasonably accurate way of describing Obama "
Half of the 45% that did not think "socialist" describes Obama were socialists that did not think he was doing enough. The other half are just stupid.
While I welcome bad mouthing socialism, I dont see the logic in this statement. The truth of the matter is Racism is collectivism, socialism? How? Care to back that up. Socialism and Collectivism are primarily economic systems at the core.
When To Kill a Mockingbird came out, I read it immediately–three times. Then I pestered the librarian frequently to find out what else Harper Lee had written or was going to write. My family was Republican and we were called "liberal" by the Democrats in town because we were against Jim Crow and segregation and thought that all people were created equal.
I like the book and I like the movie, but I don't get all googly about it like some people do. It's a good book, and a good movie, but not the Greatest Thing In The World!!!!!
TKAM is my favorite American novel. As great as the movie is, the novel is even better in terms of its development of the theme.
Big, I have been asked to buy things based on the race of the producer of an item, not to single out a group but where I'm from I often hear the cry in the African community to "buy black". Instead of making economic choices based on the consumers self interest they are trying to get you to make economic decisions based on race. I'm only gonna make economic decisions on whats best for me, i'm a capitalist.
Socialism, the prefered economic system of the supposed egalitarian, raceism-free left, in fact socialism is an economic system that promotes racism. Capitalism dosent give a crap about the race of a person, capitalism relies on judging an individual on his productive ability and is a cure for racism, sexism, ageism.
I haven't thought of it that way, but I see your point.
Ah, Democrats and their un-love of words:
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.” (Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass, 1871)
TKAM was my favorite novel growing up because I was a maiden of the Deep South. There is a lot of little things in TKAM that only a Southerner child can understand. While the racial conflict is the main theme of the novel, it is also a story of growing up in the South in the Depression.
Don't think the movie lives up to the book, however. Strike me dead for this, but I think Gregory Peck was wrong for the role of Atticus. His accent is pretty bad. It is the typical Hollywood Southern accent. A real Southerner can spot it in a minute. The children, though, were fabulous.
Anyone believe the rumor that Harper Lee really didn't write the book but that Truman Capote did?
This same misguided sentimentality of this film is what got Hussein Obammy elected. Fairy tales are nice but they don't feed the children.
I think the tarbaby did it! If he didn't, why did he run? Is he as magnificently stupid as King Sameer Shabang?
Thinking as an individual is at the root of our way of life,……
when you deviate from that,……..more often than not,……..
potential is utilized less,……..you are so right there Liberty.
Racism thrives on collectivism.
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a long, long time ago,.such books were required reading in high school there Jamesb,……..
still have my copy,……….
"…..I'm ashamed it took me so long to finally see it……"
knowing what I know about you,..I am shocked, shocked,….!!!!!
I was living in Germany when I turned 21. Homesick and still a semester away from being able to leave, my dad sent me this book for my birthday. Bummed didn't half cover it when I saw the gift….paperback no less. Wow, color me underwhelmed.
THEN I READ IT.
NEVER before or since have I ever been given a greater gift.
Speaking of mocking birds, 25 years ago today, the Coca-Cola Company tacitly acknowledging that "New Coke", was a colossal marketing blunder, announced that the original formula beveridge would return to store shelves as "Coca-Cola Classic". And Coke fans across the land, had a collective smile.
This movie is one of the very few that does the book justice.
Gregory Peck, I feel won the Oscar that year, hands down.
The movie should have won best movie,…after all,……
the country still appreciated values back than.
This movie, like all other movies, was never intended to feed the children,….
that's up to you to do that,……
Babe Ruth never scored a touchdown,….
does that make him a bad athlete,…..?????
"The results of using socialist methods are rationing."
Yeah baby……………….and you'll be getting very well acquainted with it.
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I remember this vividly as I am an avid Coca Cola drinker. I was stocking up on the original Coke before the new swill came out. The stores where clearing it out, you could get a 6 pack of it for .75 cents and the new coke with the obnoxiously label did so poorly they were giving it away to get it out of the stores. I remember hearing the announcement on the radio that Coca Cola Classic was coming back.
What does this have to do with to kill a mockingbird? I have never seen the movie or read the book.
Capote, as good an author as he is, and his early works, not the ones everyone has heard about, but his short stories are amazing, could simply never have written THAT story. He wrote many southern stories……but could not have written that one. Neither could Carson McCullers.
This book was only a "book" in that it was published. This was a story only Harper Lee could and did tell.
Toni Morrison's "Song of Solomon" is it's ONLY rival, IMO, in Southern Literature. And a worthy one at that. Her best, again, IMO.
How true on the accent. How many movies have I seen where the people in New Orleans sound just like the people in Birmingham or Atlanta. You're right, a true southerner can spot the fake accent a mile away. Hell North Louisiana and South Louisiana doesn't even sound alike. Everyone down here knows the Mason-Dixon Line runs through Baton Rouge. LOL
I thought my Daddy was Atticus Finch and sometimes I still do.
Just a tribute to my Dad………
Well put, lil buddy!
And as always, absolutely spot on.
Now, to biddness………
Can you please tell me why that kid pitcher for the Nationals has fans fainting in the stands when the Cinci pitcher can throw for 8 innings and still pitch in the mid 90's with TWO DIFFERENT THROWS? What is all the fuss about? I get the 98 mph fast ball but have you watched him since his "stolen" perfect game outting?
He either throws three strikes to retire the batter or he LOADS THE DAM BASES. What's DAT about.
hit me
Yep, all dem innocent Negros innocently accused of White women. Always the White's fault. This is the sickening message of this vile and hateful book. Fast forward to that hack Grisham's work and it is the same thing – blame White people even though in REALITY 99% of the problems are caused by Blacks.
Feel fortunate that it was never required reading. If you ever do read/see it, question the second/third-hand account of why a convicted rapist was shot while escaping police custody.
As for New Coke. Look at Coke's market share before and after the launch. I believe that as terrible as New Coke was, it increased Coke's market domination and enstilled product loyalty to Classic Coke. Their marketing people were laughing at Pepsi all the way to the bank.
"Lawrence of Arabia" deserved to win.
Better late than never. There's a reason it's in my permanent collection. Now you know why! If you haven't already seen them, I also recommend The Grapes of Wrath and Of Mice and Men.
yep and on welfare, why do they have to think?
If you liked Gregory Peck in this movie, you should check out Moby Dick. He plays one hell of a Captain Ahab!
The beauty of Capitalism and competition in the marketplace, I wouldn't trade it for all the Union Labor and Socialism in the world. The trouble with Capitalism now in the States that it's not based on the smarts companies had awhile back, it's based on credit and government backing of that credit. Use to be a company would make the gamble that Coke did and they would float or sink now, the government just bails you out with the tax payers money.
I just read a few of the cliff notes of To Kill a Mockingbird. I am pretty sure it's not something I would want to read or watch. First it sounds like a fictitious story I'm not a fan of fiction, I prefer to read true crime and I don't watch TV because it's full of fabrications. Next it sounds like fodder for Liberals to accuse conservatives of racism, when clearly it was the Democraps that were the racists back then (and now), but the Craps have turned it out to make it look like the Conservatives were these prejudiced people.
America was learning, we as a country were doing the best we could with what we had. I am sorry it did not turn around so quickly for the Blacks back then, so we have to hash that out every time a story is written? Whites are just evil people, we are rotten to the core and everyone knows that only non-whites have sympathy and can do no harm to others.
You rarely hear such common sense spoken in public these days. Short clip and straight to the point. Kudos to you for the post and kudos to Morgan Freeman for telling it like it is!
"I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony"
Pete: [into phone] What to drink? No Coke. Pepsi. … [yells to Nico] Four Pepsi!
George: Cheeseburger! Cheeseburger! Cheeseburger! http://snltranscripts.jt.org/77/77nolympia.phtml
I don't drink soda, just beer, used to drink water but fish . . . . in it.
When I was in 9th grade, it was mandatory to see TKAM, they showed it in school.
Randy Shazzzzbutts
You are entitled to your opinion, but it IS a classic. Just out of curiosity, which movies do you consider to be "great movies"?
That is always the case. No movie can paint as vivid a picture as the human imagination. That's why I prefer, whenever possible, to read the book before viewing the movie.
Thank you! And I agree with this classy man 100%!!
Hi Ralph, how are? you feeling ok? ya great movie.
"but I think Gregory Peck was wrong for the role of Atticus. His accent is pretty bad. It is the typical Hollywood Southern accent. A real Southerner can spot it in a minute. The children, though, were fabulous."
It doesn't even take a real Southerner to discern a fake accent. If one has done any traveling at all, and really LISTENS to people with their entire attention,listening for ALL the information given — instead of listening superficially to learn only what they want to know, and dismissing anything they consider superfluous — then one can easily discern the differences. I have often been amused, sometimes irritated, by the Hollywood Southern accents ("Oklahoma" is a definite case in point), and I am a northern Missouri girl who speaks w/what my Texas friend calls a "radio voice"(i.e. no discernible accent).
I do not agree that Gregory Peck was wrong for the movie, however. His acting was flawless. He simply, as an actor, did not do the research necessary to know and be able to speak w/the correct accent. The children's accents, I suspect, were authentic because they were natural to those particular children (at least Boo).
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Because a white man has never, ever raped anyone? Right Rand-…oh, I mean Talkzalot?
Randy, if you don't like blacks that much you should go back in time and tell your ideological ancestors to not import millions of them to the New World as slaves. I'm glad you can't, otherwise many of the best men in my community would not be here today.
What your talking about is racial favoritism, racism, in an economic matter. If someone forces me to buy from a black store owner beacuse there black, that's not socialism or collectivism. Yeah its egalitarianism, but these things don't mean the same thing obviously. I simply do not see the logic here. Basically your saying, well the Leftists are socialist's, the Leftist's are racist, so therefore Racism and socialism are the same thing. Please elaborate beacuse that does not make sense period. If someone said "We will take from the Whites to give to the poor blacks" Well yeah that is Racist, and that is socialist, but the 2 things are still exclusive.
I agree that Socialism promotes Racism, but that doesn't make Socialism and Racism the same phenomenon. They are separate entities. I agree with the gist of your statement, which I think is, Leftists are socialists, Socialism promotes Racism, Leftists Suck, capitalists rule.
But it was just kinda annoying how you were like "Well the truth of the matter is, Racism is Socialism" No, it clearly isn't, and you didn't even offer some sort of logical back that up. The truth of the matter is, your pretty much right but you made a stupid statement which doesn't make sense.
Love the movie. And the book. Posted the Anniversary.
http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/to-k...
We get that about the accents in the West, too. I live in Utah. We have an extremely neutral accent, that most people would not be able to place, like most of the western US. In movies we tend to end up with thick Texan drawls. It's a little silly.
What exactly is "fairytale" about about a man being convicted of a crime it was obvious he didn't commit just because of the color of his skin? Or of a deranged man trying to murder the children of a person who publicly embarrassed him, and winding up dead himself? Or of a woman accusing a kind man of a heinous crime just to cover up the fact that her father beat her up? That doesn't like any fairytale I ever read as a kid.
I first read this book when I was 11, and I loved it. I thought it was the best book I'd ever read. It's not my all-time favorite novel anymore, but it's definitely in the top 10, possibly top 5. I don't even know how many times I've read it over the years.
I've noticed that the difference in how people from Utah talk, at least people from the well populated areas is more in how a few specific words are pronounced and not a difference in overall speech pattern. You could have my husband say several words and he would sound exactly the same as my mom (from Maryland) but pick a few specific words and you would hear a big difference in how he pronounces them. Also there are choice phrases they use that make their speech distinct. My dialect is more nuetral because I have lived in several places and have a father that moved often growing up so I have picked up different words from different areas.
Now people from the less populous areas have more of a difference in their dialect, but this is the case with most states.
It does depend on individual words, and even those aren't always very common. I've spent most of my life here in Utah, and I've only heard a few people speak with the typical Utah cliches, like saying 'crick' instead of 'creek' or 'dee' instead of 'day.' For the most part, those aren't all that common, even though they're supposed to be. Other words, like the way we pronounce 'mountain,' is pretty much a Western thing. I've noticed that in a lot of states around the West, it's pronounced the same way, but in the Midwest, it's pronounced differently. Certain phrases though, and definitely certain words, are absolutely distinct to the area, but that's the same with every state, really.
I didn't mean to suggest that Utah is completely free from any type of accent, because that's clearly not true, but it's certainly not the Texan/Southern hybrid that Hollywood seems to think the West sounds like, either. And when I lived in Ireland, you should have heard my friends ripping on the typical Hollywood Irish accent that sounds nothing like a real one. They found it quite offensive.
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racism is collectivism, socialism is collectivism, racism is a form of socialist collectivism, do you get it thru your big thick head yet
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