Sunday Open Thread: Henry V Edition
by PubliusToday, in 1413, Henry V became King of England. Hmmm…interesting considering what we’re facing today on the Hill. Good excuse to revisit this:
Today, in 1413, Henry V became King of England. Hmmm…interesting considering what we’re facing today on the Hill. Good excuse to revisit this:
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Tags: Henry V, ObamaCare, St. Crispin Day
Posted Mar 21st 2010 at 3:13 am in Open Threads |
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There simply is no other way to explain the statements of White House Chief of Staff Jacob Lew this morning on CNN's State of the Union. Lew was asked by Candy Crawley about a recent statement by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid indicating he would not be bringing a...






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Claims of TEA Partiers using the word "Ni***r" and "Fa***t" in the halls of congress are complete LIES!
Hey Barney Frank and John Lewis!
We demand the security video!
Yeah, like Henry V, Obama thinks he is God, and the ruler of the free world! This criminal administration has another think coming! WE THE PEOPLE will take him down!! We will NOT go silently into tyranny!!
I want to see the PROOF also, Missy8s!!! I don't believe ONE word of this garbage!
Dear Lord please let your arms surround us and protect us from those that would do harm to us (our government). Please grant us the miracle of victory from these tyrants today and help us wage the good war to restore our country back to her greatness until they are all defeated . During our efforts, guide us away from the greed and debauchery that brought us to this moment in the first place. In your name we pray.
I wouldn't put it past Obamaton activists screaming epitaphs trying to pass themselves off as tea partiers. They have done similar things before.
Exactly!! I want PROOF!!!
Ya' got to love Shakespeare. That last speech is the most eloquent "kiss my a**" in history!
Even if the charges were true, which they probably aren't, BFD. One or two jackasses screaming dumb shit does not make a case against the movement in any way.
But if it is part of a smear campaign by these two "congressmen" then it must be proven untrue.
We need to confront them and demand their proof not just off hand third party statements.
Evidence is required in this instance.
Henry V would have made a better president than Obo. But then again, I can only think of like ten people that could have been a worse choice.
Can't wait for November 10/12…
You know we'll get the "truth" just as soon as these "congressmen" are able to manufacture it…
Remember, remember the fifth of November,
The gunpowder treason and plot,
I know of no reason
Why the gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.
I agree, just think that stupid little distractions like this are a significant part of the reason that Liberal/Progressive/Fascist/Communist/Whatever people manage to get into power in the first place. They know they cannot win a debate or accomplish anything when their opponents apply logic. So they dangle the little carrot of insulting the character of their opponents, and we spend so much time chasing it around that they can do whatever they want while we are worried about a pointless charge.
Sadly – it would not surprise me if someone, or even a few in the crowd, acted in frustration and anger (said or did things which should not have happened). IF anyone did use racial slurs -or- spat on anyone, that should be condemned by all in attendance and from afar.
Meanwhile we watch and wait to see if this monstrosity of a bill is Rahmed through today. The Bill and whether Representatives honor their constituent preference should be the issue. The "engineered" document yields a passing CBO score (the office is required to pass judgment on what they are sent). Adding in the "doc fix" alone moves the Bill into the red.
There is message drift, as some argue Federal abortion funding / some argue Constitutionality / etc. The plain fact is We The People know we can't afford this plan and We The People have asked our Representatives to stand down this legislation … start over … do smaller incremental fixes which can survive lawful voting (no deem to pass / reconciliation) and gain bipartisan support.
It would be a blessing if the Bill failed …
God luck all.
Always found it creepy that that particular event in history coincides that closely with our elections……
This is the lead story in the MSM web rags today and they are putting a greater importance on it than we are and they are trying to make this the story instead of the sociaIist HC bill…
It IS a distraction but they cannot be allowed to get away with it…
Ok, as much as everyone on here is complaining about the (bogus?) racism charges, all that proves is that Saul Alinsky is a great political strategist. Even if it did not happen, so many of us are paying attention to that rather than the fact that THE VOTE IS TODAY. We are too distracted to send a clear enough message to Washington that voting NO matters more than whatever charges are being thrown around. It is a simple distracting tactic, and it's working like a sonofabitch.
Well, let's worry about that, as well as the tons of other shit wrong with Washington after this HC thing is settled for once and for all, one way or the other. If we play along and get our collective panties all in a bunch, they win today.
There are lots of people who would have made worse presidents than Obama. They are all in his cabinet and his administration.
NOT JUST WRONG – EVIL – Barack Hussein Obama
BHO reminded me of another famous speaker….the finger pointing, the roar of the crowds….
MSM all over reports of slurs and N-word. Well, never let a crisis go to waste! I wonder is the PURPLE shirt committee showed up with a different shirt on for the day to "help the cause"???
Time to take the trash out, COME on NOVEMBER TO REMEMBER!!!
We need a few battalions of expert English longbowmen on the National Mall right now.
I wonder if they can distinguish at a distance, through the windows of the House and Senate office buildings, which are the idiots voting for this bill and which are the patriots trying to protect us from willful malfeasance?
I suspect all they would have to do is look for those windows out of which is flying fairy dust and BS.
The thing that is being over looked is the fact that this bill will make the house and senate even more irrelevant – all the regulations are in the hands of bureaucrats . Its almost astounding the fact that the house & senate are putting themselves out of business — mark another one for Liberty — Hello George V
http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/?xg_source=msg_m...
How dare Pelosi to pursue this on Sunday in Lent! Then Pelosi prays to St. Joseph to pass Abortion on Demand with Taxpayers against Abortions' money!!
Same old, same old.
Such are the bleats of bankrupt intellects, devoid of anything but a script that served them well when the Republic was trying to do right by them and gullibly bought that persistent racism narrative. It's been used so often in the service of political dishonesty and hustle, that those of us who have been around the block a few times are now well-able to pick out the scammers easily by their words, actions (or more often, lack thereof), and body language.
Crying "Wolf" too often, as Aesop taught us, has unpleasant consequences.
They're now at the point where they have to show competence and judgment to hold on to their seats, something they lack in abundance, just as their Prez is demonstrating daily.
Instead, in answer to them, I prefer a take-off on dialogue in Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar" "Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war"
Instead, "Cry 'reason' and put down the dogs of racism."
Breitbart TV has a video showing what really happened. Everyone was shouting. They were shouting "Kill the Bill."
I am so angry right now that the MSM continues to slander the Tea Party in this way. It has gotten out of hand.
One of them was FDR, although in Churchill's words, or possibly someone else's, "He had a second rate intellect but a first rate temperament."
In this case, Barry, it seems, has a second-rate intellect, a third-rate temperament, and fourth-rate character.
"Strength of character," according to Presidential historians, is the most important element in a successful President's make-up. It is painfully evident in witnessing his behavior in the face of any/any resistance (and I submit Bret Baier's recent interview with him as evidence), that this President has little, if any.
I'm surprised that apparently no columnist or commentator has noted the deafening silence about this horrible legislation from our foes.
They're gleefully watching as this Congressional majority sets the stage for America's economic decline, trashing our economy which has been the only thing that has really given us the strength to ensure our national safety and security.
Third-world America-hating economists at the International Monetary Fund, I'll bet, are excitedly making contingency plans to pillory us in global op-ed pages as our bond ratings drop and our budget deficits skyrocket further. The opportunity to embarrass us on the world stage (not that we're doing such a poor job of it ourselves), is mental Viagra to such types.
We're retreating from our responsibilities to Democracy and from our obligation to leave our children with a nation that is better than we found it.
It is time to make some sacrifices to stop this destruction and restore our nation to sound financial footing! Otherwise, we'll become pushovers for the tyrants of the world (Read "China" here).
I have been to a few Tea Parties and everyone was civilized and there weren't any racial epithets shouted at all. The whole business of these protests is to stop Health Care Takeover and Big Government Spending. Period.
You misinterpret Henry the V.
Obama said "who wants all that money coming out of your paycheck to pay for insurance premiums." Really? really? Our prez. is not living in reality…The govt. by force takes the most out of my paycheck, and for what? so a bunch of do nothing losers like you mr. prez. can redistribute my hard earned money and pretend that your actually doing something. You sir are nothing but a delusional theif!
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/obamas_mal...
Obama's malignant narcissism.
What can be said? The plain fact that we are this close to tyrannical control of our society means the fight may be already lost.
I do have faith in the American people, but the situation is very dire indeed.
When Obama was elected we all saw this coming, that so many could vote for this man and this fraud is the real problem. And still for the most part the citizens are asleep, they just want their cut of the rich mans loot.
God help us.
Gotta agree.
What kind of tactic is this; that the left has used for a generation or more? Only now brought to its pinnacle in effect. They have for their own device created a mood of universal hatred. Those of us who revile their detestable policies; and those who revile anyone who opposes them. And out of this bitter soup, out of this repulsive bile, still they add the rotted fruit of division from which they can achieve their evil intent.
So let us remember today that we commit our lives, our fortune, and our sacred honor, not to the divisions that they would foist upon us, but to the unity of our cause, which is the love of liberty, and respect for the foundations of this great nation. For it's as true today, as it ever has been, that united we stand, and divided we fall.
What racism charge?
Why wasn't someone arrested and charged?
You can't prove a negative and they know it. We can't prove it didn't happen with 100% certainty. This is how the left works. Claim racism and out the burden on you to prove its false. How do you prove it's false? Why, by shelling out money for social welfare programs and supporting absurd, self-defeating programs like affirmative action.
See the article posted above this one on Big Government currently.
You sure it wasn't "Kill the Hill"? That's what CBS is reporting (just kidding)…
If Henry V thought he was God in Shakespeare's rendition then why would he fight alongside his subjects?
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Thanks LT, I was being facetious though.
ANTONY:
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.
JULIUS CAESAR – William Shakespeare
Haha, it's a bitch to pick out sarcasm in type. Sorry for the confusion.
You are a debbie downer. Sign in, please.
Since we're in leftist land…..
Should we use one of their tricks?
THE ODIOUS DEBT OF BARACK OBAMA or LIES AND LIABILITY
http://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2010/03/20/the-o...
This is silly, spit doesn't carry far enough, I prefer overripe tomatoes
CrisD – the "debbie downer" remark is to me? Whatever. You are free to your own opinions as I am to mine. Of course, the data is what it is and that supports my viewpoint.
That we can't afford this new massive entitlement is beyond argument. We are broke – go to http://www.usdebtclock.org and watch the millions go.
From a purely practical standpoint – who amongst us thinks we can insure another 30 million and not spend more / give up some care for those presently insured?
A fav twist which has been going around is: if you think healthcare is expensive now … just wait until it's free.
We aren't funding Social Security / Medicare / Medicaid. We couldn't afford Part-D when the Republicans passed it.
We can't afford this nutty plan.
Just the facts ma'am.
R
I liked the version from Tombstone better.
Oh, she dare, because she is evil.
Is Traitor a slur? Is Bastard a slur? Taunting disgusting , I'll show you taunting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs
Positive.
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Amen!
Germans never needed Shakespeare to fight the French.
With just under two hours to go now, I sit in quiet contemplation. We are standing at a crossroad as the fate of our Nation is decided. This is the day we find out if God's Wrath is upon us for all the innocent children we have murdered over the years. And for acting against the People of Israel.
If, by some Miracle, we are blessed with God's Grace once more – it will be a lesson that none of us should ever forget.
Just wached opening of Nascar (McMurray from my town). The ceremony included Lee Greenwood singing "Proud to Be an American" and leading the Pledge of Allegiance, a Christian prayer, two military flyovers, and National Anthem sung by four military members.
This is the United States of America.
We must win this battle.
The other thing is if a congressman was actually spit upon, that would be an assault on a federal officer and someone would be in jail!
Where are the booking records and arrest charges?
This whole thing stinks to high heaven and this is the drum they plan on beating throughout the so called debate today!
Missy, I don't think they want to show any videos….Any videos would probrably show we were right….No
way can I believe tea party people would be doing anything like that…..The demon-rats and the MSM are trying to destroy the tea party movement, or slow us down……
Amen!
Personally, I don't think any of the tea party people were involved in the name calling etc…But, if there were
a few, I agree with you, it doesn't have anything to do with the movement….I have a feeling they were SEIU thugs planted there to make the teaparty people look bad….
True, but the entire point of any accusations being levied at this particular time is as I have maintained constantly today, entirely to distract from the fact that the H/C VOTE IS TODAY. We all need to quit worrying about this garbage until this vote is finished. We are being distracted deliberately with this filth to make sure, in the final moments before the voting, that as many opposition voices as possible are worrying about this, rather than doing everything they can to make sure our representatives hear a clear NO from the people.
Our number one rule at protest is no profanity or racially derogatory is allowed.
If anyone uses it they are booted PERIOD!
That is why I know that these claims are absolute BS.
Not to mention, the bulk of our members have little ones in tow when they attend these events.
THEY LIE!
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That scene always gets me fired up, my favorite line being, "all things are ready if our minds be so".
Re claims of racism, et al.. I'm of the opinion that if this did happen it was Alinskyite infiltrators seeking to make the teaparty look bad. It's what Alinsky advocated doing in his booklet rules for radicals.
The statists are looking to destroy the attraction of the tea party for conservative minorities. This is all about November 2010 and November 2012. If they can convince conservative minorities that the Tea Party participants are racists then they will have succeeded in slowing it down and possilbly damaging it permanently.
How else to keep the races separate–make them distrust each other. The Black Caucus stunt we all just witnessed will be one of many. The Tea Party Organizers need to seed camera operators on the perimeters of these events. Tape who comes and goes from the crowds. Record it all. Posterity would like a record.
Also from Henry V… and this goes out especially to the Stupak turncoats who abandoned the unborn – "Shame and eternal shame, nothing but shame!"
Truly the best locker room speach ever.
I rue that I were abed (and unborn) on St. Crispin's Day That I were not with good King Harry and those few, those happy few on that day… I would follow such a man anytime, into any conflict.
God rest King Henry V, and William Shakespeare for writing such amazing words.
And AMEN again!
just make sure their organic tomatos.
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