Tuesday Open Thread: Caligula Edition
by PubliusToday, in year 37, Caligula became Emperor of Rome. Considering the Democrat majority is planning to pass a bill without actually voting on it, this seems like an important event to note. After centuries, have we really progressed that far?
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Caligula and Obama have a lot in common…narcissistic, self arrogant, insane ruler! Since the beginning of his reign Caligula had spent lavishly on himself…gee sounds so familiar!!! Caligula had an irrepressible, bizarre sense of the ridiculous, deliberately designed to shock…the weather underground way…could this be their real hero???
Is that HARRY REID bringing "alms" to his master ? With PIGLOSI in her usual "kneeling" position awaiting her turn ? I think Nancy was the "head nurse" in a previous position of dirty knees.
Caligula 'ruled' for less than 4 years. I'll take that as a good sign.
Just in case you all forgot, Republicans have been doing exactly this for ages, including on their own “trillion-dollar bills.” So, no throwing stones. http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/03/12/re-ben...
And in 44 BC the Senate stabbed Julius Caesar to death on the steps of the Senate – beware the Ides of March. Why? Because Caesar wanted too much control over the population.
Obama has a lot in common with Caligula, Julius Caesar and Nero.
That's a bald faced lie!. NO ONE has ever done this before in the USA; "passed" a bill without a vote, but rather, in the most ROYAL way, DEEMING it to have passed. They have done it in Germany and the Soviet Union, but never in the USA. Give me one example of it you LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Caligila had his horse Incitatus in the Roman Senate, and we have our own ass, Harry Reid, in ours.
You libs/dims/socialists are so illogical. How can we argue with such dimwits. And you folks are allowed to vote. Un f'ing believable.
How would you know anything? What are you, like 20?
How did Caligula's reign end? His Praetorian Guard did him in.
I have just come from the Drudge site and wish to state here…it is depressing.
Obama's happiness deficit–By Fred Hiatt–Message, Being President is Hard!–Since when is America responsible for the Presidents happiness?
Kucinich in Obama's crosshairs–By Michael D. Shear—Message, don't vote your conscience or what your constituents want–Vote what the big O wants..so he can have a feather in his cap.
House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it–By Lori Montgomery and Paul Kane—Message, the Constitution does not apply when it gets in a Democrats way. Or put it another way 'Screw you America.'
Obama runs out of patience with Israel
Settlement issue provokes 'biggest crisis in relations for 35 years'–By Donald Macintyre in Jerusalem and Hugh -MacLeod in Doha–Message, "I, Obama, rule the world, do what I want.–Question did Mr Netanyahu express his opinion on the bulldozing of Detroit?
US citizens shot dead by Mexican drug gangs–By Adam Thomson in Mexico City.—Message, We are not safe there, but we should and could reform our immigration laws to bring more of them here. Oh, and give them Health Care, Free.
China trims holdings of Treasury securities–By MARTIN CRUTSINGER—-Message, We are in way over our heads in Debt, but let's load on some more–cause after all it's Bush's fault.
And Last but by far not the least (if you go by weight)
Woman aims to become world's fattest —By ninemsn staff—Message, Michelle, here is a challenge for you!
I disagree with the second. Julius Caesar was at least a military mind.
The other two …
If anybody's interested. "Conspirata", by Robert Harris could have been taken out of today's headlines.
Lies, cheating, and leading the sheeple. Things have not changed much.
Every day in Obamaland is depressing. The left are unhappy people and want us to be as miserable as they are.
The more information we have at our fingertips, the "stupider" we collectively become. Or is it just that we can see stupid people now at the speed of light?
What's the ulterior motive in passing this careening train wreck of a bill that will surely cost so much more in the long run?
What will have to be cut to pay for it and the successive social engineering legislation that will follow in its wake?
The cuts, if the dems have their way, will come from those parts of the federal budget that they hate: defense; homeland security; immigration enforcement; and other legitimate government activities that keep us safe.
The eventual rearranging of the federal budget will increase the whirlpool of tax revenues flushing down the toilet of social handout programs and we'll wind up kowtowing to regimes that hold our debt and become militarily stronger than us.
Wake up and vote these destructive morons out of office!
Professor Turgeson
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Would you be reminding us that Caligula made his Horse Consul? Hardly a match-up as Obama has appointed some 32 already .
Some believe we have entered the twilight zone, while others believe we are seeing the twilight of America. Some call for a contract with America to get their people elected. We already have a contract called the constitution and it’s being willfully violated if the people are forced to buy a product just because they are American. The American people are the jury members of our system, so be wary politicians it is in our hands your guilt will be judged when you come before the jury for anything. You could die broke and in jail.
Ben, you pathetic loser, Mom says if you don't get your skanky ass out of the basement, you'll miss the bus to school.
Who are we kidding? Clinton was Caligula. Obama is more like Hadrian or Diocletian- narcissists of a more insecure type who deliberately led the empire into decline by socializing it.
We'll know what's goin on when they set a stable up behind the Whitehouse and Barry swares up and down that it was the girls that were dyin' for a horse.
I see Obama as more of a Nero, at least the burning part.
Claigula made his horse a Senator. Obama only uses the horse's ass.
Not everyone throws "stones" : http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-...
Speaking of stones, might do you good to grow a pair.
Obama's sweeping changes in america are destroying America and our freedoms. Maybe you wouldn't know about what America was because they don't teach anything in school these days. And then, maybe your on some Government assist blah blah blah program, all geared to keep you voting for the next Socialist/Marxist. Republicans have never attempted to do anything like what is happening now. Most of us could write a freaking book because there is soo much evidence. Next Christmas you should travel to the White House, so you can see for yourself the Communist Ornaments hanging on the tree…. You have no idea what is happening…
There are striking similarities between Obama and Caligula.
The road goes on forever, and the party never ends.
Bread for the circus……..
I'm not getting suckered into any more FBI watch lists. No comment on Obama / Caligula.
Ewwww…Tobey Maguire TROLL…!!!!!
Hit it with a resurgent career….!!!!
What he said…
the latter,……pickles………..they're everywhere, they're everywhere !!
You Lie!
You know what REALLY depresses me…?
I really have optimism and confidence that we will turn all of this out…we will end the Obama's dance of death with the American dream in November, we will end the Obama's career itself in 2012, and the Nation will re-establish itself…I really do believe this…
What I will find depressing, and it will happen, will be all of the INCREDIBLE IDIOTS that will be trolling here, and on blogs, newspapers (those few still around), magazines, and on television, trying to convince me and you and everyone else, as to how wonderful the Obama was, and how the Obama just wanted to help, and how the Obama had purity of purpose, anon, anon, etc. ad infinitum and <ad nauseum…
And how many will still believe it, too…
Well, one thing I know for sure, Obama hasn't progressed very far. See my post:
"OBAMA – listen up. Israel isn't the Gates Affair"
Like Caligula, Michelle and Barry be "movin on up!" Way too funny!
All Hail Emperor Arugula !
Caligula made his horse a Senator. Michelle only has horse teeth. Still………………………………..
you have no clue of Roman history, which is offensive to me as a Roman historian. there is no possible comparison between the president and Caligula.
nice threat
He's pointing out an accurate historical event.
Assumption is the mother of all F-ups.
wrong, he threatened to do so to cow the Senate. he never did it.
no, he proclaimed that he was going to do it, but never did. his death kinda held that up
you obviously don't know roman history let alone emperors. hadrian and diocletian wern't hated like caligula came to be hated. but dont let your distortion get in the way of your point
and which part of the burning would that be?
the part where nero wasn't anywhere near rome and at least two days ride away from the city when the fire started?
or the part where the second he heard about it he raced back to rome and led relief efforts, even opening his own palace to people displaced by the fire? and his massive construction efforts to rebuild the Subura district?
or are you talking about the bullcrap idea that he ordered the fire started just to clear space for his new palace? yeah guess what….that wasn't true. yeah he built a new palace but it barely covered 1/4 of 1 of the 27 burnt districts.
nero was a monster, no doubt. but the great fire was not his fault and he got a bad rap for it.
hey genius, you should pick up a history book, he threatened to make his horse a senator. never did it though
and what logic are you employing here that you could make such a claim?
i mean im a roman historian and there is no comparison. so come on. try it please. prove how little you know of roman history
hey its archie bunker!
is there any point there that you were trying to tie caligula to our president? no? didn't think so
no no no no no no no no. he didn't do that, he tried to, he wanted to, he said he would. but never did it. should try reading roman history before opening your mouth
just like the author of this article assuming he knows anything about roman history right? cause he doesn't
if you knew anything of the history of the Principate, you would realize that such conspiracies were a regular thing, a fact of life in Imperial Rome. this wasn't some isolated event. the Praetorian Guard regularly engaged in this kind of thing
first off, the novel has been renamed called Lustrum.
second of all its fiction. loosely based in fact.
and third. what your describing was pretty standard for ancient rome.
"see stupid people now at the speed of light?"
I really liked that!
first off, the novel has been renamed called Lustrum.
second, the guy writes fiction, its based loosely in fact.
Mjolnir
As depressing as that may seem…I would prefer it to the present state of events…chicken little running around daily telling us the sky is falling and the only way to prop it up is with –Health Care Debacle, Crap and Tax Debacle or the Immigration Debacle.
Not even going to bring up card check and banning oil drilling for the US but not Russia off our coasts.
yeah thats why caesar got his head handed to him at Gregovia but those dirty Gauls. or almost got himself and his two best legions almost thrown into the English Channel. or got whipped by Pompey at Dyrrhachium
Caesar's success couldn't be attributed to the fact that of the ten legions he had at his command only 3 were raised by him, the rest were given to him by Pompey who had raised and trained them himself.
Followed in the first instance by Alesia, and the second by Pharsalus.
It's amazing how these so-called experts show up as trolls….lol…jedknight claims he's
a historian………rofl……..
yeah funny isn't it…….i mean its not like i have a degree in history of bloomsburg university or anything like that……..oh wait i do.
It's Lustrum in England, not here.
What's pretty standard then has no place here and now… and yet, there it is. I wish Obama was fiction.
Message, We are not safe there, but we should and could reform our immigration laws to bring more of them here. Oh, and give them Health Care, Free.
As they shoot themselves, I'm surprized Obumble hasn't given the border patrol orders to pull them across the border and bring them straight to the closet hospital…..
but i can understand where you might get confused since i didn't go to college at say liberty university or some other trash school like that. i mean i went to that evil pennsylvania state university system that is determined to try and destroy this country by not promoting the blind hatred and distortion that so many here promote
really? when was the last time the president ordered someone to be murdered because he disagreed with him?
Somehow 'swampland blog' hardly strikes me as a credible source of information – jeez
Ya want to hear something depressing…Some idiot passed out at one of his
speeches this week……..How depressing is that?……We have a lot of idiots out
there!
Maybe do some research on the bodies left by clinton, you'll find your answer -
One possible bit of good news…
Rumor going around the vote may get pushed back to Easter…they don't have the votes…
Every poll shows opposition to this bill is increasing day-by-day…and despite all reports to the contrary in the LSM, they would have already passed this if they had the votes to do so…and when it doesn't, we need to be ready to egg on the principle parties, (Obama, Reid, and Pelosi), that its the fault of the other members of the troika, not the individual doing the accusation, that it didn't get passed…and make sure that our individual Senators and Representatives get an EARFUL for trying it in the first place…
With just the right touch, we could get them to fighting tooth and nail amongst themselves for failing at this…
see the thing about historians are we like to get things right.
and how is it that roman history is screwed up? because it doesn't fit your viewpoint or give you the ability to justify your hatred?
call me a troll all you like. my problem with this article is that its crap, has no basis in historical fact.
and i would love for you to explain how your such more of a historian slash expert yourself. if you can. which i doubt. but if you can….kudos.
I agree with you.
I ignore them.
Anyone with a computer can be a wikipedia expert………..
Hey jed lighten up! Nobody is claiming to be a roman historian other than you and frankly, we couldn't care less. CL was not pretending to be a historian and compare actual events, rather, it was a comparison of behavior which seems to be rather valid -
Rofl…..you must be Obumbles court jester….You sure are a jokester!!….I wonder why a genius like you even bothers to troll here….I don't know why you even bother telling us how educated you are…Rofl…do you think anyone believes you??….By the way, I'm Cleopatra!!……..lol..You will be deleted from my e-mail in box into the trash bin………….So lie to someone else, eh……
Just like the dribble the democrats say about the health care bill.
Kinda like everything BO says 'based loosely in fact' -
I just heard that too Mj and I am sitting here wondering what happened to the deadline of Friday? How the heII can they keep pushing back the deadline? At this rate we will be listening to this crap for another year!
nothing i have said is a lie. try to deny it all you like, pretend i don't exist. this is the first time ive ever posted on this site and only because i was offended by the non-existent historical comparison.
allow me to list a few things you could try to read and see that im telling the truth. try reading, anything by Tacitus, Dio Cassius and Suetonius. but i know you wont. you don't have the stones to do it
Kinda like the blind idiotic hatred you all held for Bush? Jed I see you have your work cut out for yourself today, go and educate everyone about roman history, just know one thing, we are more interested in what is happening in OUR country NOW than the history of Rome.
hahahahahaha. right cause clinton ordered vince fosters death. just like a mafia don.
oh really? i dont hear the president claiming he talks to gods, or is a god himself. or that he had sex with his sister, or that he turned the white house into a brother to be run by his uncle. or that he ordered the murder of people his disagreed with. there is no valid comparison and it is offensive that someone would even try
right, not like i read the works of dio cassius, or seutonius or even tacitus. i mean those guys wrote all kinds of lies.
someone before replied to my posts about the stupidity of assuming. i didn't have a blind hatred of bush. i disagreed with him, certainly. but didn't have a blind hatred of him.
and my problem is that in distorting roman history…..well what is to stop any other history from being distorted. where does it end?
oh and they are the only ones lying? both sides are doing it.
Wow, loving your leader I see – so this isn't really about roman history but rather your adoration of the biggest poser our country has ever seen – got it
and where is your proof? are there any pending criminal investigations? is there any credible evidence?
Obumble and Caligula both are madmen, that's enough comparison…..Here's a partial quote about
Caligula, does it not resemble Obumble?…."Delusions of grandeur but also divinity."
"This, or some other cause, violently affected his mental state, and he became totally irrational, with delusions not only of grandeur but also of divinity."
It would be helpful if you channeled that passion for history into making sure the history of this country was not re-written, anymore than it already has been.-
Tsk, tsk, tsk, Mustn't offend the troll………..lol
They haven't got the votes, no matter what they say…the actions are proving more important than the words, OCG…
If you have it, you just do it, like a Nike commercial…
The joke is, all the "almost there" statements coming out of the House…its Star Wars, flying down the trench, and they keep missing the port…
Pretty soon, they'll HAVE to break, this is an election year, and they have to set up for re-election (pathetic and hopeless it will be for most of them)…and G-d help most of them, they'll be lucky to figuratively escape with their lives from their local constituent offices every day…I plan myself to waylay mine and (also figuratively) remind him that he's lucky in the quote "modern era", that tar and feathers, or pre-stretched rope, has gone out of style…unfortunately…
If they go home with nothing done for Easter break, it won't happen…and past November, 2010, it will be dead, along with most of the Dimocrats…then comes 2012, and the finish…
E-mail your politicians and remind them we the people are the jury pool, both civil and criminal and we might not forget treason to the people.
i didn't say i loved the president. but to compare him to a madman like caligula is offensive. in any context.
but i see you didn't respond to the fact that i pointed out caligula's madness and how none of it pertains to the president.
but that fact gets in the way of your blind hatred of the president so i can see why your ignoring it
yeah where has the president ever said he talks to gods or has said he is one?
military and roman history are more my thing. though i would ask what american history has been distorted that offends you so?
Oh, I believe it…
There were only 200 people at the latest "I love ME" tour, and the Obama must have his moments…so they slipped some SEIU guy an extra $20 beyond his hourly for attending the rally…and like the good Obamabot he is, he crashed to the floor on cue…
People are catching on, though…hardly anyone noticed this time…even though the crowds were so small, it was easy to see…
Your irrelevance is directly proportional to the size of the crowd, inversely multiplied by the thing that was supposed to get you noticed, divided by how many actually paid attention…
Thanks Mj, i realized last night that they definately do NOT have the votes, just couldn't understand the chatter of extending until easter!
No jed, it's not a matter of facts getting in the way – it's a question of how very little I care about this silly comparison and I hold no blind hatred of the president – I do hold contempt for the non-stop pushing on healthcare that the majority does not want -
And a schooled historian at that!
and im not being sarcastic or anything, im very serious. what part of our history is so distorted?
on this we agree. it is a silly comparison….no scratch that. its an insane comparison. and yet its being defended with absolute loyalty. you dont blindly hate the president fine. you dot agree with the health care bill fine. i can accept that. what i can't stomach is our president being compared to a madman, when he isn't
Since I won't speak directly to a troll…jedi asked, "yeah where has the president ever said he talks to gods or has said he is one?"
Will you tell him, Obumble doesn't have to say a word, it's his actions!…Furthermore, if he saw some of the pictures that Obumble and his team allowed to be published, he would see a theme of a cross behind him, or a halo around his head….You know most, if not all of those pictures were approved by Obumble and gang, and if he doesn't agree, so be it, the little troll won't change my mind no matter how hard he tries……lol
Wellllllllll, the s.o.bs trying to destroy our country were elected, so I would say, yes, we have progressed, epsecially since Barry will be voted out in just a few years and his minions in congress and the senate likewise.
Sadly, the economic, moral and cultural damage will doubtless resemble the losses of the empire after C.
yeah thats why it took another 350 plus years for Rome to fall.
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