Tuesday Open Thread: Massa Edition
by PubliusRep. Eric Massa (D-NY) has been pressured to resign his seat in Congress, due to allegations of sexual harassment. He have no information about the truth of the charges, but we find it interesting that the Democrat leadership moved so swiftly to push his ouster. Certainly, it has nothing to do with the fact that Massa was a vote against “cap-and-trade” and “ObamaCare.”







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I feel a little uncomfortable using this guy's name. After all, I would hate to be branded a "racist"…
I do not know the 'real' charges against this man Massa, but if it is just an off the collar remark, then he should have stayed to cast his no vote! We have to hold our opinion until we know the WHOLE story…if that ever comes out! As far as the Rahm story, about showing up in the gym showers and railing against Massa in the buff,…well Massa should have shown Rahm what waterboarding is all about! There has to be more to this story then is being told…that off the cuff remark is just NOT enough to get a Rep, to resign….Did Rahm threaten his family?? I wouldn't be surprised by any of the Chicago mob tactics used by these guys!!
I tend to believe Massa, but with the charges he has against him, his
credibility will be challenged, and the Democrats will cream him…..
I hope he puts a "doubt" in some peoples minds about how the
Dems are running things and opens up some eyes….Keeping my
fingers crossed!!
So Obama said that the insurance industry was not able to give him any good reasons for raising rates. What reasons DID they give? Was the meeting recorded?
Isn't the profit margins on insurance companies around 2 or 3%?
The opportunities for off color humor here are legion. Massa was soap-on-a-rope-a-doped – Rahmed – into resigning.
Apologies. Couldn't help myself. Still an adolescent at heart.
Far be it for me to defend ANY of the idiot Democrats in Congress, but I wouldn't doubt what this guy has to say about Emmanuel's tactics in the slightest. These people are the epitome of EVIL and they're out to literally destroy the greatest country and political system on the planet for their own, selfish purposes. Every one of 'em needs to be tarred and feathered, as far as I'm concerned.
Maybe he could be persuaded to 'switch hit' and join the GOP.
I can only hope that there are many more cracks in the wall that holds this criminal coalition together. Massa may be an imperfect witness, but he may give courage to others who are ticked at the Democrat leadership for forcing many of them to trash their careers for Obama.
Massa is a lunatic! If this a Rahm smear with foundation, stay, fight, and vote NO just to tick him off. If allegations are true, stay thru 3/18 and vote NO, then quit. Quitting now, while claiming innocence, just shows him to be a coward. He talks big, witness his diatribe against Rush, and now Rahm. The man needs medication!
He was a Republican and switched to Democrat to run for that seat in Congress…
Let him stay where he's at…A MAD Democrat….He may be able to do more damage
to them that way……
So the purge begins, and people doubt our leaders influences, or is it the Dems. are desiring an upright group of (sorry can't even finish that without bringing up my oatmeal laughing).
I hope Congressman Massa is telling the truth. I also hope it is the leak in the dike that takes down obummer, queen pelosi, and dingy harry. Then the draining of the swamp can commence! Hopefully, rahm "deadfish" emmanuel, dave "wylie coyote" axelrod, valerie "slumlord" jarret, and the rest of the White House liars and deceivers will all soon be gone. Resigning in DISGRACE for the ATROCITIES they have and continue to inflict on the AMERICAN PEOPLE AND OUR CONSTITUTION!
This is a guy who stated he would vote for a public option even if his constituents were against one. I am having a hard time deciding which side to take here. Could someone help me here?
Who honestly knows what this is all about? However where there is smoke there is generally something burning, flaming, smoldering. Put nothing above Odumblo and his boy commie punks. I believe Odumblo and boys when they say "whatever it takes". They seize every opportunity to destroy and do so from within. Odumblo and punks are the most dangerous people on the planet.
I think this will be wildly entertaining. Massa is going to be on Beck today for the full hour. I think Massa just said No Massah, and didn't toe the mark and walk the line. It'll be nice to see the Dem's go through a little scorched earth for awhile.
So he already swings both ways.
Me too.
Who dat? Yes Massah!
I'm at the point where I'd campaign for Boy George if I thought he'd vote against Obama.
Petty, petty, petty…
Cold shower anyone…?
So far the reporting on this from the MSM has been ridiculous. They want to bury the story Massa wants to tell, but are superficially covering it without quoting him. Glenn Beck and Rush are doing better. He makes a lot of big allegations of corruption going all the way up to Rahm, and to include the Union bosses. But what I haven't heard and what I want to know is just what kind of allegations of sexual harassment were made? What did he do that was so bad? I heard he made a dirty joke and some staffer accused him of sexual harassment.
I've been warned over and over about sexual harassment. Basically even something as harmless among adult colleagues as telling a joke can be taken as offensive and basically the bureaucrats have defined sexual harrassment in such a way that a joke can be sexual harassment. I really doubt that this man was actually sexually harassing another man. Rather, he was plucked off with career assassination tactics because of his no vote. The MO of Democrats is all over this, if his allegations are true I wouldn't be suprised one bit.
Also you have to consider that the democrats were willing to buy out Mary Landrieu and that other clown from Nebraska pretty much out in the open. Everyone knew. So it makes sense that they would also be willing to ruin this guys career out in the open. Not only does this help them achieve their goals but it serves as a warning shot to other wavering house members, "Don't mess with us or we will destroy you."
From the article – "…….has been pressured to resign his seat in Congress, due to allegations of sexual harassment."
Isn't Emanuel standing in front of Massa buck naked in the shower, stabbing his finger into Massa's chest sexual harrassment?
Bill Clinton said of Obama, “he has all the political instincts of a street thug.” Indeed. The Democrats should re-read their histories on the French and Bolshevik revolutions. Obama is the real deal, a revolutionary who would become dictator. Is there a righteous Democrat in congress who will stand for our republic? I won’t hold my breath.
I think your right Cowboy. I watched G.B. yesterday and wouldn't miss it today for anything.
Depends on which finger…lol….Forgive me!…I feel
naughty this morning…….lol
Wouldn't it be interesting, if Massa turned out to be one of the "Re-founders" that Beck talked about awhile back? Someone to stand up and tell the truth? That would blow the lid off Washington…………
Massa's issues with Obamacare are that it doesn't include a Public Option. He is the guy a few months ago, during the town halls, that was on video telling a group of opponents that he would vote for Single Payer Option even if 80% of his constituents didn't want it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXWmVBadWvU&fe...
That doesn't mean the Dems aren't driving him out though. I believe if he were a Yes vote, this "scandal" would not have been leaked. This isn't the first time a Dem has come forward recently saying the Obama WH is forcing/keeping them out. Harold Ford, Tamyra D’Ippolito, Joe Sestak, David Paterson…who else?
This is Obama's specialty. Remember Chicago and Obama's opponents in 1996?
i would think so.
Well either he tells the truth, or its Blagovich redux.
It is interesting in light of how long Rangle stayed in position, he was only being investigated for 2 years. SOmething peculiar about all of it. I am sure in the days to come, we will get a better idea of whqts going on with this guy
The cannibals had Massa on the menu and Chef Rahm was in charge of the 'carving'. It's going badly for the donks and they are turning on each other. Who's next? Depends on who voted NO on Obamacare.
Has anyone on this page considered for one minute that the harassment charges just might be true? Let's see, there were numerous Democrats who voted against the health care bill in the House. Only one has come forward to date claiming he resigned under pressure and he would have voted for the bill, if it had a public option.
No thanks. The last thing the GOP needs is another turncoat. IMHO.
Truthfully, I have kept an open mind and considered it. This is humorous nonetheless. It is comic relief whatever way the coin flips. On the one hand, we have Massa and Rahn going at it, on the other hand, sex sells.
His rant was entertaining – picturing Rahm flopping through the shower room, finger waving back and forth, a stern grimace on his face, accusing Massa of some sort of betrayal. Very funny. (Sounds like a future scene in the military with the new approach to homosexuals.) But as with all folks there is always more to the story. At least it sounded as if this man understands the situation.
Adolescent…yes…
True…?
Oh, yeah…!
Aw, c'mon man…that's too easy…!
Easy…whatever causes the Dimocrats the most pain and confusion…
What the he#$, Who is surprised by the thugs around ob? They have stuck their figure in the chest of the American people with their as#$%^ showing and they don't care. They are mofia from ob to Acorn and everyone in between…. They need to go or we're screwed for a long time.
Rahm's military service? [Yeah.......................I thought so.........................Typical "diversity" Democrat]
At this point, it doesn't matter. We have no idea about all the "triggers" in the Bill that would incrementally end in a one payer system. We don't trust this government to be open and honest about it.
I suspect, the people not voting for it because of "no public option" actually mean "no single payer" option. They want to be able to deliver the whole shebang not rely on pieces–that another congress might potentially be able to rescind.
The whole bill(s) are tainted. They should start over.
You just had to go there, didn't you…?
ROTFLMAO…!!
Your statement about creating "doubt" is spot on. These people get away with unbelievable b.s. by simply creating doubt.
Rahm confronting Massa naked in a shower! Can you say Sexual Harassment? Where are the charges and ejection from the White House over that? I don't care if the guy did do it, he's admitted it, he's leaving. He's torqued because the Dem's should have covered for him like they cover for every other Dem. His anger is over the fact that Dems change the rules for on the basis on need; Massa was no longer needed and therefore the rules apply. . .Rahm is still needed therefore the rules do not apply. It is truelly entertaining to watch this guys anger over the application of his own ideals.
Orientationist!
I believe the charges are true…
And I hope Massa prosecutes Emmanuel for it to the fullest extent of the law….
How gives a rats ass about cussing and dirty jokes??? Honestly. With the corruption, tax cheats, liars and bribery going on in DC. Not even to mention the union thugs running the White House. I could go on forever . . .
He is for a single payer healthcare – AND I DON'T CARE~ He is standing up against the MACHINE. I will stand with him. Hope he stays safe till he is on Glenn @ 5 tonight!
Rahm went after him naked in the shower?
How creepy is this? Why didn't he just punch Rahm out?
wow – dan rather says obama couldn't sell watermelon and nothing .. werid – someone watch Oprah for me today so I can see what the Prof Gates guys will say after the beer summit
also will be dvr'ing the Glenn Beck show where messa will speak for the full hour ….
where's chuck todd at ???
This administrration is imploding. They have no clue what to do or how to run a company, especially this size … Does anyone expect any difference? When all you know is Chicago thuggery then what do you expect ??
Again, we all treid to get the word out but the MSM (now state run media) covered it all up. Everyone with half a brain saw the troubles of this man and his administration but decided to ignore it….
God help us all because it is getting worse by the day….
What other charges..? The real ones…
I'm thinking that if he wasn't one of the re-founders…he is now! I can't wait to watch Beck today!!
most excellent!
For me, I will defend Massa when he switches parties. Until then, all dems work for the man, as far as I'm concerned.
And I didn't need that shower story to think Rahm is a disgusting pig.
I am so sick of the politically correct idiots in this country…they don't realize that, by screaming harassment (sexual or otherwise!) they are leaving themselves wide open, for the same thing to be done to them!
Or…hold his head under the water…aka, waterboarding! LOL!
I swear. If SNL doesn't make fun of this they will lose what very little credibility they have. What am i saying? SNL has no credibility to lose. M'bad.
Red Eye Robot Theater for the win. Come on Greg.
I'm sure Rham got to his aide and set Massa up.! And by the way, I'm hoping the White House is monitoring this site.
It only took 9 months to investigate JFK's death….Rangle will die before the "ethics" commitee find him guilty.
Was it Barney Fwank who had the shower curtains removed ?????
Obama and his administration are KNOWN LIARS…..Why believe Anything they say ???? Some people are just plain Stupid…
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Rham thinks he's a tough guy . Acts out the "Godfather" Movie….. Dealt with many Punks like him…Bullys only pick on people weaker them themselvs…..Typical Garbage surrounding our Corrupt, Incompetent Leader!!!!
I believe this guy, I don't trust him but I believe him. He spoke out in the heat of the moment when his rage and anger was still fresh. People usually state the truth when they're first maligned and have a "can't believe it happened" view.
Hey, It's the Chicago way, Ehh?
Apologies??????….for what
Rckmom, you and I know, the Obumbleites are sitting in the oval
office right as we post schemeing on how to destroy this man…I
hope he can prove his story to be correct….But even if he can, the
Obumbles will think of something to throw at him…(Like he
chewed bubble gum in grammar school and had to sit in the
corner)…lol…I'm giving away my age…No way would they be that
cruel in schools today!! How times have changed, and I haven't
seen any good changes for a long time……
Let's see now,….taking kickbacks,… tax evasion,….takes months and months to take action,….but……..
A small hint of a sexual harassment and Nancy can handle that case in hours
Grow up there Husky…….stop being a stooge.
I sure hope Massa can come off as a crusader on Beck tonight,…….
instead of the looney tune that O'Reilly and the MSM have already made him out to be.
Maybe he was (flapper)gasted…lol
Eric Massa is a liberal, period.
He even said that he would vote against the interests of his district and FOR the public option.
Here is the audio,
Rep. Massa: I will vote against the interests of my district
The very thought of Rahm Emanuel running around with his junk in the open is frightening.
The charges they trump up will still not be as bad as Rangel's!!
Exactly. The people saying "No" on the democrat side want the whole system changed to "single payer" overnight. Obam-Rahm want it done incrementally.
Regardless, that doesn't make what Rahm did any less offensive (and hilarious in a pathetic sort of way).
The question of the century…
All that money dancing and running around there, and not a shower curtain to be had…?
And Rahm prancing around there like a prized stud stallion, not a towel or robe one…?
Was if for intimidation, or meat market…?
Inquiring minds, (stronger than mine), want to know…I'll pass, thank you very much…
That is the most logical statement I've read so far that explains the situation best…
He wasn't needed, so they didn't protect him…
Perfect sense…
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He should have "teabagged" 'ol Rahm…
Gave him a little taste of November early…
Only problem I could see is that Rahm would like it, and then the "Banking Queen" would have wanted in on the action…can't have this Prog "daisy chain" flopping around all over the Congressional "Health Club"…
Of course, the only names named the next day by the MSM would have all been Republicans…
Why not believe Rep. Massa? This administration is the most corrupt one i have ever seen.! Maybe he will tell ALL of their dirty little secrets!
Oh, yeah…!
Please, he resigned. Did Nancy or Ron hold a gun to his head? As far as shower curtains go, maybe you should ask Larry Craig for his input.
9/11 leaks
whistleblower
9/11 exposure
extortion blackmail bribery
Agree! Most of the corruption and lets just say questionable behavior of Dems is always covered up by the Dems and their MSM cabal buddies except when a Dem isn't playing ball, then they won't hessitate to take out one of their own.
Massa has admitted to the accusations of sexual harrassment and quit the House. There may be more to the story but Massa must not be afraid of libel with his statements about Rahm and the Union threats, etc. There are a whole bunch of guilty people here!
=)
I'm hoping he bellies up to the bar and spills the beans.
Ah, but that 2-3% would be better served in a liberal's hands; certainly not in the hands of private enterprise!
And if you forget to log in you can give yourself a point…lol
I can just see Rahm and Eric having THAT conversation…
"Just because we're holding hands doesn't mean we'll be taking warm showers together until the wee hours of the morning…."
Gunnery Sergeant Highway: "Heartbreak Ridge"
As we don't know the details of the accusation we can't condemn him on that. We should condemn a representative of his constituents that doesn't listen to his constituents – and makes as many flip-flops as possible to keep in power. The only thing we can say is that he has no principles and that the party who allows this sort of person onto their party deserve the beat-down they get.
Look at the Astroturf on display outside the Ritz Carlton in DC. All the paid protestors trying to break in and offer up "citizens' arrest warrants" against health care lobbyists. Arrests have been made. I am struck by all the people wearing the same color t-shirts, but I'm sure this will be called totally Union grassroots.
OOOOKKKKKKKKK,… he………… "resigned",…..all is well with Nancy and thew House Dems.
Yes it is. If it weren't so frightening and serious, it would be laughable.
Me too. That's not to say that there haven't been people who have been harassed by others using offensive sexual jokes. But in those cases it is deliberate. For example after being told "hey, that offends me, knock it off" the offender makes a point of waiting until the offended party is present before obnoxiously telling a deliberately offensive joke. This can clearly lead to a hostile work environment. But the answer we get from the politically correct types is zip your lips, CYA, and nothing you can do about it.
But also if you want to go by the rules of SH, usually in order for the charge of SH to stick, there has to be a case in which the offender was asked to stop. I'm eager to find out if this is the case. If a court case is pending, he may not be at liberty to discuss the details of the allegations. Because again if you want to go by the rules, spurious allegations of SH are treated as harshly as the crime itself.
The only allegation that was known is what happened last new years eve at a wedding party.
He stayed after his wife called it a night and went up to their room, he was sitting with a bunch of drunk junior colleagues one of which made a sexual remark to Massa who in turn made a snarky remark back – turns out it was a bystander who overheard the exchange and reported it – waa waa
I believe Massa is telling the truth and Rahm the lil freak went in the shower for this exchange so there could be no recording of the words spoken. This whole thing is the Dem Wrecking Ball at work – Massa said they were putting the pressure on him and ultimately, his family. Really now,, who doesn't believe this?!
Sure looked like a message from Nancy to the wayward Dems in the House.
Just finished watching Massa on Beck. Glenn was trying to get him to answer if there were any threats or corruption and intimidation at the hands of Rahm. He couldn't answer the questions.
Sounds like he just could not take the pressure of being in congress.
Said he was quitting over his health concerns.
We got nothing clear about the situation.
So much for you crusader. HA, HA, HA, HA, HA.
I TOLD YOU SO. I TOLD YOU SO. HA, HA, HA, HA. He needs to join the Larry Craig Hall of Shame. And this site needs to move on.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Of course this is easy in hindsight. But, those of us who were actually paying attention BEFORE the allegations already knew he was a nut-job.
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