Illinois Primary Open Thread
by PubliusPolls have closed in Illinois, where voters will decide a number of hotly contested primaries in both parties. Democrats have tight races for Governor and U.S. Senate. GOP has a close race for Governor and a less competitive race for U.S. Senate. There are a number of other competitive races across the ballot. Turnout seems at an almost historic low, so almost anything could happen.







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Go over to the "Contract from America" and help make your voices known…
Come on, Illinois! Set yourselves free…!
i would like all legal citizens who happen to be living to vote. while i care for whom you vote, i don't care for whom you vote. VOTE! for no other reason than voting is your voice. make your voice heard in this great republic. God Bless America!
Please, somebody tell me what is going on.
ok, so we did OUR civic duty…
Voted for Dan Proft for Governor. Good guy, rock ribbed conservative. However, Andy McKenna will win most likely. So will Mark Kirk for Obama's (!!) old Senate seat, now kept warm by Roland 'Tombstone' Burris. We voted for Pat Hughes but that was just to vote against RINO Kirk- who will be a reliable conservative IF the wind blows that way.
Fortunately for us, and the country- it seems more a gale blowing now…
This is Chicago. Think about it. Only the brave will vote and the scared will not. My imagination sees notes pasted on doors that have registered voters in the dwelling. Notes that are intimidating. I see Panther and SEIU goons stalking the polling centers. This is not a place for the weak of heart.
This state and Chicago is the birthplace of the Mafia and corruption. Nothing would surprise me.
Special Report on FNC didn't even mention the guy who'll likely win the GOP nod for Governor… quite sickening.
Not to change the subject, but there are more pressing matters. Seems like Dingy Harry has been offended by the anointed one:
"The President needs to lay off Las Vegas and stop making it the poster child for where people shouldn't be spending their money," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat.
Need I say more. Dingy is finally trying to save his job. No matter, he is a loser, too… just like the anointed one.
When the MA vote went on there was no coverage, whatsoever, until poll close. And I can't find any on this vote.
Am I missing something? Or has the LSM decided not to cover the a$$ kicking their masters are getting?
Its a shame that Proft probably won't win. Did a little more research after your suggestion, liked what I saw, and ended up pulling the handle for him.
In the end though (maybe this is naive of me) we can't do much worse than the dolts we have had as our last governor or our last senator……….Be hard to top them for stupidity….
Probably…at least I hope so…
well, the good news is this:
All of these people see the winds a' blowin'- and if you are not a true conservative you will not be elected, and for the Mark Kirk's of the world they will tack rightward- in a hurry.
People will NOT tolerate tax hikes, profligate spending, welfare, foreign aid or anything else- as long as we are on the road to financial ruin. Any politician who misreads these tea leaves will be on th eoutside looking in.
So pay no attention to the spin of the media on this. The people are coming alive…
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Sad day. Looks like mega-liberal Kirk is gonna win big. Who are these clown in Illinois voting for Kirk? And McKenna, the guy who endorsed Obambi, is leading in Governor's race. Thanks to all you guys voting for GOP candidates who were all stuck in single digits, when you could have supported Adam A. Illinois is lost.
Sorry is right. I did my part; voted for Adam and P Hughes. One voice in the wilderness…
My dearest Chicago natives! Please! PULEEZE! Vote the Conservative IN! We all are in danger here, my darlings. I have two father's, so to speak. One, my real daddy, John James Creagh, was killed by a land-mine in WWII, a week before I was born. My step daddy, Ernest Clifford Saltzman, died at the age of 52 because of the Malaria he contacted after being shot down over Malaya (See Chicago Trib article, cir. 1946, entitled, BAIL OUT WHEN B-29 IS SHOT UP OVER MALAYA. As told by Clay Gowran…re "Postville Express," the plane.) They are now my sons. MY SONS! After all, I have lived longer than any of them. I have the honor to have met all the heroes involved in this story during my childhood. It's because of THEM that I can take my shade in their shadow. As we all do. At this dire time in our history, please vote the Conservative IN!
The turnout reflects the population that actually pays attention and cares about what is going on. That it's so low is one of the reasons we have the problems we do. Everyone complains, though.
We can't compare this to MA because it's just the primary.
Adam and Hughes here too. The Illinois Legislature should adopt a resolution recognizing the Birthplace instead of Residence at time of election for where a President comes from. Hawaii gets Barack, we lose Lincoln, which is bad, but we gain Reagan. A net plus for our badly tarnished image….
Unfortunatly most people in Chicago will declare themselves
Democrats because they are afraid not to…..It's a sorry way to
be, but that's the way it is….They know the machine will get
even some how…..Sad!!
Win some, lose some.
I thought it was Dullard who backed the Obama-wan-Nairobi ?
I did but there's less of us.
Hughes should take on Turban-Durbin next time around
The GOP candidate for Gov. is going to be McKenna and the Senate will be Kirk.
Il. isn't "the birthplace of the Mafia and corruption.
Sure it's bad there,. but stating garbage, as "fact", ruins whatever else you have to say.
Tammany Hall corruption and Boss Tweed ( yes, all Dems ), was roaring along when most of Il. and Chicago elected tins of GOPers and didn't have a Dem Machine.
The Mafia was "born" in Sicily in the 16th century, but truly became what we know it as in the early 19th century. It made its first appearance, in the news, in America, in NEW ORLEANS in 1890, many decades before Italian gangs, let alone the Mafia made were in Chicago; let alone in the state of Il. !
In Chicago, one is much mor likely to see NOI and ACORN thugs at polling sites…………..NOT members of THE NEW BLACK PANTHERS.
What a surprise, one of the most populous, wealthy, educated and diverse states isn't voting for the far-right bigots that the TeaBaggers want them too. You've declared war on Americans, now we're fighting back. Poor, pathetic, disenchanted White people. When will you realize that you've been getting screwed ever since you signed up for Nixon's Culture War. Why is John Galt so poor?
Thank you, Chidog! I like this guy Adam. Would like to see O's seat replaced by a conservative. Wouldn't that be beautiful! As the majority of Americans would. Don't give up! (I don't think you will) Remember that we are actually the majority! Shows just what happens when a minority of activists can do when they "acquire" power. It most certainly will be a hard road to hoe during the next year, but, I'm seeing the real heart of Americans, such as yours, emerging, with a vengeance, today. For what it's worth, dear Chidog…I will NEVER give up! I don't think you're gonna either. BTW I live in Kalifornia. Your reply means a great deal to me.
we did have some snow this morning, that might have kept some away from the polls, but i got out and voted for adam, but it looks like he will make 3rd or 4th, but dillard is not going to win.
BULL SHT!
I believe we can account for one of the dead people's names that ACCORN has stolen from some secure public record…HaHaHa; Poor guy; but, he's a Demorat, and would have supported O(No)BAMA anyway, so he needs to stay in the ground where he is.
(What a surprise, one of the most populous, wealthy, educated and diverse states.)
That's precisely why the Illinois economy is in the toilet. Much of the same "rules" Kalifornia. So much for the "wealthy, educated and diverse" states. This makes you laugh?
You're a man after my own heart! I've experienced some of that Chicago weather, myself, especially in the "spring" and it's scary! Keep it up! Thank you!
How would most Red States be doing without the massive Federal subsidies that receive from Blue States like California and Illinois? Conservative Red Staters are the real Welfare Leeches.
Marshell Jay Loss – Go screw yourself, you unemployed loser.
irishhag – So being wealthy and educated is a bad thing! Good 2 kno!
Of course i stand corrected by you as usual. I was just making a general remark as to the state of affairs as is now in Chicago. Whatever, it's a corrupt environment and thats why so many corrupt politicians have flourished and kept their seats there. Obama made Chicago his home, as did Ayers and the rest of the cabal.
Look, erroneous posts make my teeth ache.
You don't like getting corrected, especially by me? THEN DON'T POST CRAP; KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRST AND IF YOU DON'T, LOOK UP THE FACTS BEFORE POSTING !
There are ways to make a point without claiming that some easily refuted thing is what it isn't.
Don't blame me, blame yourself and do what you should do; elsewise, you wind up looking stupid.
Dems do what you do and we all pounce on them. So don't do what we all hate the Dems for doing.
Oh wow, you are really in a bad mood tonite. Like when I posted they will start taxing us for the healthcare when it's passed and the benefits won't kick in till 2015. You reamed me for that too. Why don't you just chill out. It's bad enough we have trolls on this site yelling at us and you a so-called patriot trashing another patriot.
I was making a general "Al Capone" statement about Chicago and you automatically wanted my DNA and scientific data. Just chill out. You are not an expert witness about a lot of things, although i do respect your opinion and do not trash you when you are off base.
Oh gee……………..grow up!
I know that you can't see that by making patently ridiculous claims ( no, you didn't mention Capone, nor even make a "general statement" [ I am assuming you meant GENERALIZED STATEMENT ] about Chicago ) you ruin your entire position, but try to.
I'm not in a "bad mood" tonight. I don't want a sample of your DNA ( what the bloody hell is THAT supposed to mean ? ), and telling me to "chill out" is childish and stupid.
"EXPERT WITNESS" ? HUNH? This isn't a trial, it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with a trial, and sadly, you keep writing in a way that makes you look not just ignorant, but stupid, willfully petulant, and dumber than a box of rocks. This ruins your good intentions.
Believe it or not, I am and have tried to help you.
I keep begging you to either already know the facts you make, or look them up prior to posting. That will strengthen your argument, help win the debate/discussion, and prevent anyone from dumping on you, while ignoring the actual pointg you are making.
Look, I can't help it that I know about a lot of different things, but you CAN and MUST do something to correct your line of posting hideous, sometimes laughable factual errors
and/or far too broadbrushed things.
Dear BG Webmaster,
Thank you for not posting my "denied" respons to HaHaHa. I think you did me a service, as well as the other lovely posters here as well. I, for one, would like to keep the civility bar quite high here, as well. I don't think I was that bad, considering that I was addressing someone who called me irishhag, but I have to admit, responding to trolls like this does seem to bring the rhetoric down a bit. Sorry. I stand corrected.
Sorry..didn't know Andrew elected you as the moderator of this site. NOT all of us have your genius for factual scientific information. Also I don't need your help because I don't like public abusers, which you are. You are not my mentor.
I apologize to everyone reading this drivel. 1redcent has a bomb in his underwear even though I do believe he cares about this country as much as any of us do. End of this discussion.
[...] Read the original: » Illinois Primary Open Thread – Big Government [...]
BLARG! I wish someone from the union would post something threatening on my door.
It's a little late for that line of rhetoric from Harry Munster.
You know, the state's not wealthy in the slightest. In fact, our state debt is second only to California.
And why is the far right bigots? Under modern understanding the far right is libertarianism which would make the right wing extremists the natural extension of libertarianism, Anarchism. Which, by definition, can't really be bigoted, because it doesn't want government doing anything to anyone.
Illinois took a great many years to decline from the state that was the home of both Lincoln and Grant, and the birthplace of the Republican party. It'll take time to move back to the right, especially since we'll have to dismantle the chicago machine first. All that matters now is that we take that first step. So if we wind up with a moderate, at least they'll be better than an Obama liberal.
The problem with the "Educated" class, is that they are mislabeled. (Not to mention that you put them into a "class" thereby inciting false class warfare).The correct term for them would be the intelligentsia, a group who do no more than churn out ideas, good or bad, and are not held accountable to their failure. AKA, Community Organizers, College Professors, etc…
Plus, it's the liberal elites who seem to think being wealthy and educated is a bad thing (themselves excluded) as they are the ones insisting on taking the money from the rich 5% to punish them for doing well. Isn't learning fun? The republicans from Red States want to end that. Re[mis]distribuion of wealth is happening thanks to betrayals of the liberal congressmen, voting for taking their taxpayers money. Pay attention to who votes for what, not who gets what, that reveals who is doing the real malpractice.
Dear BG Webmaster,
Why, oh WHY do you not recognize my password! I can't get over the walls you place in front of me. I've done what you ask and STILL I can't get through. I can place a comment, but I can't vote! What! Are you SEIU or something? (I hope you know I am kidding here, I'm not so sure) Convince me! Thanks!
Empire Building!
Stop The Spending!
The problem with most Illinois Republican voters and IL voters who are willing to vote Republican is they end up voting for the so called "moderate" a.k.a..fake Conservative. There seems to be an Illinois election cycle where the Dems get elected, things get out of control, then a "moderate" Repubic gets elected and screws up, again a Dem gets elected and here comes complete out of control Big Government again. The cycle seems to be continuing down this dangerous road.
Dear BG Webmaster,
I Can't login. It's that simple. What's up? I want to vote as well as post!
Illinois is a lost cause. We are like junkies. We need to hit rock-bottom before we will ever "change". Fortunately and unfortunately we are rapidly closing in on the bottom.
I love ya too…LOLOL
Pics? This crap needs to be documented and exposed. Hard evidence.
Yeah, sure………………..LOL
There may be an intensedebate glitch. I can't log in over at bigjournalism. It happens sometimes. I just clear the cookies and try again later.
Why do you bigots focus so much on race and assume everyone who comes here is white?
Are you on drugs? The bigots and racists are Chicagoans (Democrats). After getting caught trying to sell Obama's seat, Blago promised the people of IL he would refrain from appointing a replacement and we would have a special election (like MA).
As usual, he lied and blind-sided everyone by appointing Burris. Racist and Marxist Bobby Rush and black Chicago politicians threatened white politicians in the IL legislature if they attempted to move forward with a special election.
Democrat controlled IL is the 2nd worst financially troubled state; Dem controlled CA is the worst.
IL is one of only a handful of states that has less jobs than it did 10 years ago.
The smart people here vote Republican. The uneducated and ignorant vote Democratic.
Chicago is filled with far-left loons who are bigots and racists. Chicago is losing convention after convention, business after business.
Move along, fool. You're embarrassing yourself with your sheer stupidity.
Thanks, WeWeed_Up! At least an answer, and a sensible one at that! Actually, my reply defended all of us in a most courteous way. I get a little WeWeedUp, myself! (great name) My post may well show up after all. I did not take HaHaHa's insult personally. Trolls always show up when things get sincere. They can't handle that, I guess. I've noticed you here on Breitbart, along with Cowboy Logic and others. I'm new here and want to join in. It might be presumptuous of me but, you call me a hag, you call my friends a hag. I am, however, much more concerned about the actions rather than the words of name callers. (who, for the most part, do nothing) So, I'm most likely wasting my time! That's why I thanked the webmaster for deleting my post. (I am also long winded). But, try not to be. I am quite touched and heartened by the posts here!
Illinois republican party died tonight , it actually had a shot but the corruption cancer is just too deep .
[...] – Giannoulias, Stroger, And The Crown Of Corruption Update: Giannoulias gets the nomination. The Republicans forcefully [...]
Evidently we listen to the same radio (I voted Hughes & Proft as well). We wound up with Kirk (painful) and Brady (I honestly have no idea). It can't possibly be as bad as Burris and Blagojevich, but I'll believe that either one of them will behave in an honorable way when I see it.
So does anyone know anything about Brady? Did we get at least one decent politician? I'll hold my nose and vote for Kirk in the fall, but this is a good night to be a registered Independent. {sigh}
Looks like a solid Conservative Jason Plummer will be the Lt. Gov on the Republican side.
I live in Kalifornia and experience the same thing here, dear Chidog. Sometimes I feel it's almost pointless to vote. (I was born in Chicago) A beautiful city. Just the right size for a big city. Not too big and not too small. And, clean! I know about the two season thing…you have your summer and your winter. A 2-season state. After leaving NYC for Chicago, I used to love to brag about how clean downtown Chicago was compared to NYC. Not one cig butt in the gutters! In all fairness to NYC, it really can't help itself. It's dirtier because the streets are narrower. Chicago was purposely designed to include all citizens access to the lake. I, personally, was able to sit on the edge of Lake Michigan and dip my feet into it. Hundred-year-old buildings in Chicago, so close to the lake, are very beautiful, and you wouldn't fear walking in the "alleys" between them. In NYC, you would.
I have lived all over the country, Virginia, NYC (they have 4 seasons there), Albuquerque, Los Angeles. (we're lucky if we get a rainy season here!) It's a shame what Chicago has become, politically, (maybe it was always that way) as well as so many other parts of our beloved country. We're gonna take care of all of this crap! Look what they did in MA! Us Patriots are creating the proverbial "bow wave", a military term referring to the wave that a battleship has at it front. You cannot survive it once it's set in motion! It's well in motion my dear Chidog! And, your vote has contributed to it, in fact, helped create it!!!!!
I live in Kalifornia and experience the same thing here, dear Chidog. Sometimes I feel it's almost pointless to vote. (I was born in Chicago) A beautiful city. Just the right size for a big city. Not too big and not too small. And, clean! I know about the two season thing…you have your summer and your winter. A 2-season state. After leaving NYC for Chicago, I used to love to brag about how clean downtown Chicago was compared to NYC. Not one cig butt in the gutters! In all fairness to NYC, it really can't help itself. It's dirtier because the streets are narrower. Chicago was purposely designed to include all citizens access to the lake. I, personally, was able to sit on the edge of Lake Michigan and dip my feet into it. Hundred-year-old buildings in Chicago, so close to the lake, are very beautiful, and you wouldn't fear walking in the "alleys" between them. In NYC, you would.
I agree. What's up!
I've been bloggiing about this just like Massachusetts but the turn out is very low
You're in denial, Tom. You've been dragging rock bottom for decades. Look what you sent to the White House. Time to go cold turkey.
In a street fight I'd take Lincoln over Obama, but i cant stand either one of the big guvmint lovin tool lawyers
Two SEIU goons outside my polling place tonight. As I walked toward the building, they told me that they wanted to "suggest" who would be the best candidate for me to vote for. I politely told them I did not need anyone's suggestion in order to cast my vote. They proceeded to call me names as I walked by and into the building. So typical of the so-called "educated" left. Not saying that anyone in the SEIU is educated………..but, you get the point. What a joke.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen .
It's obvious that you are just an illeducated , thin skinned, name caller, who can't stand being found wanting.
I've but one word for ya…………………………….TOUGH !
That is totally ridiculuous!…These SEIU guys should be thrown into jail.
There are certain rules for states to secede from the Union. What are the rules to kick one out?
"…most people in Chicago will declare themselves Democrats because they are afraid not to." That's how it was when I was growing up in Decatur. You didn't tell anyone you voted for other than a DemoCretin unless you were tired of having friends and, sometimes it seemed, tired of living.
isn't there a limit on how close the "campaigners" can be to the polling place on election day? 'Sorry, I meant to say suggesters.
I haven't lived in Massachusetts for a number of decades (not just years) but I was born and raised there, and understand why Scott Brown won this year: it wasn't a referendum on Obama. It wasn't just the truly poor candidate he was running against. Massachusetts like youth, beauty and a common touch with strong ideology, and they also miss the heady days back in the 60s (and further back in the late 1700s) when what they did had national importance. One can't underestimate the importance of this in a Bay Stater's sense of self. Brown has a jaw line JFK would have envied, and he's fairly young, gorgeous, and with a strong common touch kind of ideology. The national scene happened to be one in which electing him would once against put Massachusetts on the national radar. It was inevitable (well, not really, but it sure wasn't the revolution a lot of people make it out to be, either).
The significance of Scott Brown's election is that the citizens of a state had somebody who reflected themselves the way they wanted to be seen. It cannot be duplicated in any of the other 49. Each is different and must be true to itself (and that, BTW, our federal heritage, is how to be these power crazies in DC). You people in Illinois – quit moaning about the machine (I've spent a lot of time near Albany, NY; I empathize believe me, but it's not productive). Your state once produced Abe Lincoln. Do it again, for the 21st Century. It's your right and your responsibility. No kvetching allowed, just do it.
PS: (Oh how I miss preview functions!) Corrections of iimportant typo: "how to BEAT these power crazies in DC" not "be" them.
Low voter turnout? I hope ACORN and SEIU decided to stay in, at least. Bah, who am I kidding?
It seems there's low turnout on BG as well….. what gives?
My problem with Profft is that his campaign was mostly antagonistic towards his fellow Republicans. While I agree with a lot of his positions, it find it despicable when a Republican slings mud that would normally be slung by Democrats.
We cannot take back this great country if we spend all our resources bashing each other instead of focusing on the Obamunists.
That's the type of attitude that put Obama in the White House.
I've met and talked with both Mark Kirk and Patrick Hughes. Sorry to the Hughes supporters, but Mark Kirk clearly was the better candidate.
He may not be perfect, but neither was Scott Brown. But in a Blue state like Illinois, he'll have a far better shot than not.
Make that two voices in the wilderness! Primary votes in IL are generally low, I don't know a single person that makes the effort to vote in the primary. Kirk is a weasel ~
Kirk is a bit left of center on some issues, but he is better than the Democrat he is running agianst. If the Republicans want to shock the world and take back the Senate in November, this is a seat they will have to win.
Besides it is Illinois, it is no longer the land of Lincoln, it is now the land of Mayor Daley. Getting a Republican from that State in the Senate should be thought of as a bonus. You can't demand purity from a state like Illinois. It is not a state you can take for granted.
good points- but Dan Proft is a pundit; he is on local radio and he always has had a take no prisoners appoach. No matter, he didn't fare well. Got a three way dead heat now, it looks like…
GOP will need +11 if they want to take the Senate (not easy, plus 10 will give them a 50-50 tie, Biden being the tie breaker). They will need to win: Delaware, North Dakota, Arkansas, Colorado, Illinois, Nevada. Pennsylvania, Indiana, and THREE of the following: California, Connecticut, Wisconsin, New York (short), or New York (long).
I think their best chance would be if Thompson runs in Wisconsin, GOP gets a good challenger agianst Boxer in California, and they take out one of the New York Senators. Connecticut is too had to win without Dodd in there, messing up the Dems chances.
enjoy your stay in sunny Kahl-ee-fohrn-ya (apologies to the Governator)…
The only state more dysfunctional than the state that gave America Lincoln, Sandburg, Reagan- and Obama, Billy Ayers and Blago… it is clean; the Daly's run a nice city; always have. If you don't mind accepting cronyism and systematic corruption, that is.
And both states will be bankrupt soon- and will be bailed out with billions in Obamascript.
Ain't life grand?
check that, they need +10, thank you Scott Brown,
and we're not sure about Brady either…
Anything would be trading up after that lot!
My thoughts are w you guys…. lived in Hyde Park 3 yrs. Miss the Dixie Kitchen and Three Happiness on Cermak, but not much else.
I try not to live in the past.
By all means, please join in. If you haven't signed up at intensedebate http://intensedebate.com/ it's fairly simple and painless. See ya 'round.
By all means, please join in. If you haven't signed up at intensedebate http://intensedebate.com/ it's fairly simple and painless. See ya 'round.
I guess i can vote for "None of the above jokers" then?
I'd rather live in the past. The 1980's would suit me just fine. The present ain't too pleasant, and the future ain't flowery. Do we even have a future?
It's sad that it's like that in Illinois…I didn't realize the corruption
was in other places besides Chicago…I grew up one block away
from the 1st Mayor Daley..The place was crawling with politicians,
one more corrupt then the other..I don't know if anyone can clean
up Chicago, it's been a Democrat stronghold for too long…People
are too dependant on them for jobs etc…That is exactly what
Obumble is trying to do to the country, using Chicago as his model…
'Pleasure hearing from you, Cardon. I think if the average person knew what a useful tool unionization has become in instilling Communist sensibilities in its members, that would be the end of unions. I live in the high chapparral of eastern Arizona, now, but I have belonged to five or six unions when I lived in Illinois. I don't have anything against them, per se, but I did find membership in them rather oppressive. They really are microcosms of indoctrination in socialist thinking. Does the song De Colores ring a bell? The rallying song of the grape pickers years ago, southern California, led by Cesar Chavez when he was organizing them? He was generally considered to be a Marxist.
I remember Chavez but not familiar with the song…..I had 4
Uncles that were all Teamsters, and I know they were intimidated..
They were constantly bombarded with Teamster propaganda on
how to vote….(We have a few Marxist that are held in high esteem
nowadays..)What has happened???….The schools stopped teaching,
now they are propaganda tools of the left…It's a sad time to see our
country sink so low…..We've been allowing people from the 3rd world
countries to immigrate here since the 60's…A lot of them were used to
getting handouts, and expect the same thing when they get here…I
don't know if things will ever get better…I hate to sound like a nay-sayer,
but I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel…We let things go too far!
We have an endless array of problems–there's no doubt about that. The Left would have as many people believe as possible that the Repugnicans are the root of all evil but , for the 57 years I've been around, it's been the Dems who lead the charge on all the things that are tearing the country apart. That having been said, I see the Repubs as being accessories in the damage that has been done. They've never adequately stood up to the damaging things the Left does. I was pretty much a straight-ticket Dem until about the age of 40. While getting my degree, I had to read the Communist Manifesto and that was the end of that. The Repugs fired me about two months before this last election when I saw them shooting themselves in the foot with McCain for a candidate. Now Independent, though I feel like a man without a party.
Are you saying Scott Brown won due to his looks, which reflects MA attitude about their own beauty? That is a serious undermining of what the clear thinking people now see and want for their state –
In my experience living in MA, nobody gives a rats ass how they are 'seen', they believe themselves all to be the beginning and end of the entire country – nothing to them exists outside of MA.
I was an independant since Daddy Bush, but in my
'humble opinion, for president, we've only had the
"lesser of the two evils to vote for since then….I know
what you mean, I feel like I'm walking in the dark without
a flashlight (party)…I am an independant also, but seem to
always vote republican because the other choice is so
much worse!! The good Dems are dead or silent….And
the Republicans have been known as the "stupid" party
for a long time…The handful that have the courage to
speak up don't run for president, and that's a shame!!
I'm hoping the Teaparty folks would stay active, and
maybe we can shake things up!!…But, it's got to be
more then talk and meetings, it has to be activity too…
Outside of Chicago and Cook County, the state of Illinois is politically reasonable and definitely not a lost cause.
I agree. Too bad Chicago/Cook county seem to run the show. I feel sorry for the rest of the state.
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