Canadian Premier Comes to U.S. For Health Care
by PubliusFrom Canada’s National Post:
Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams
Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams will undergo heart surgery later this week in the United States.
Deputy premier Kathy Dunderdale confirmed the treatment at a news conference Tuesday, but would not reveal the location of the operation or how it would be paid for.
“He has gone to a renowned expert in the procedure that he needs to have done,” said Ms. Dunderdale, who will become acting premier while Mr. Williams is away for three to 12 weeks.
“In consultation with his own doctors, he’s decided to go that route.”
Mr. Williams’ decision to leave Canada for the surgery has raised eyebrows over his apparent shunning of Canada’s health-care system.
“It was never an option offered to him to have this procedure done in this province,” said Ms. Dunderdale, refusing to answer whether the procedure could be done elsewhere in Canada.
Mr. Williams, 59, has said nothing of his health in the media.
“The premier has made a commitment that once he’s through this procedure and he’s well enough, he’s going to talk about the whole process and share as much detail with you as he’s comfortable to do at that time,” she said.
Read the whole article here. We’ll refrain from a lot of comment, as the story and the facts speak for themselves. But, when the equivalent of a Governor can’t get a specific procedure, what chance does the average Canadian have?
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And where do we go when OboMao gets done
Lord help us all
Hmmm…does this indicate two standards of healthcare?
Canadia has not kept up and purchased the most modern MRI and EP technology. I don't blame him a bit. He also won't have to wait between diagnostics and surgery. Health care rationing will be detrimental in most every way. It will only save money because some will die before their case is scheduled.
The title says it all.
Of course we have more skilled surgeons you flippin birdbrains and also some of the most skilled in the world. Canada has 25 million people. We have well over 300 million and the largest economy in the world.
God you people are stupid.
Oh yes, our wonderful health care system…not! It is still nice that the Premiere can afford to travel to the states for this procedure. Most Canadians can't.
Yes it does! One for those who can afford to travel to the States for health care and those who can't.
It is one way to confirm that Canada is in need of skilled professionals. The country has been inviting people from other countries to migrate specially for healthcare, engineering and education professionals. They really need people out there.
"Of course we have more skilled surgeons "
Not for long A$$ hole
Stupid is as Stupid does
F. Gump
Yeah, that and all of Canada's skilled surgeons moved to the U.S.
What would Canadians do if the braindead legislators currently sitting in our House and Senate forced "healthcare reform" on us? Where would they go???
We have the best health care system in the world, and our elected "representatives" are trying like mad to make it as crappy as everyone else's.
Another result of health care that doens't live up to international stardards I suppose. I would imagine the Chicago thugs doctors are among the best when it comes to mending gunshot wounds. Not necessarily good at fixing mental derelictions but very good with gunshots.
And the only people they'll get is those desparate to escape their home countries. They won't get the quality professionals.
Williams should be forced to use his own country's failure of a healthcare system. Let him wait years for surgery and get 2nd-rate care like everyone else in Canada has to suffer with.
Americans should know that Danny Williams doesn’t recieve the same health care as everyone else in Canada. The political class routinely jumps the long queues the rest of us must line up in for months, sometimes even years. (It can take over a year to even see an Orthopedic surgeon for your first consultation)It is telling that even with his ability to jump to the front of the line he decided to run to the US to undergo surgery. You should also know that health care is by far the largest expenditure for our Provincial Governments, and it will bankrupt us in the not too distant future. Be aware that though there are private medical clinics in Canada, for the most part it is ILLEGAL to buy a service such as heart surgery. Your health care system will worsen dramatically if you ever implement a socialized system. Count on it.
It makes perfect sense to come to America for the world's best health care. (FOR NOW)
You mean even without the waiting list the health care is THAT BAD?!?!?
I wonder if MSM will cover this?
Where would they go? Excellent point and one that leftist swine won't address and won't be honest about when 'debating' the health care issue.
The man only needs ONE skilled surgeon. You mean a country of 25 million with such a wonderful health care system can't find the man ONE skilled surgeon?
And if it's simply a matter of population density, wouldn't he stand a better chance finding a skilled surgeon in say China? India? They have pretty big economies too, you know.
But no, of course you will find the most skilled surgeons here in the United States, precisely because the free market approach to health care is still the best that has ever existed in human history.
Let's not forget that. That would be "stupid."
As a Canadian Citizen(who currently lives in the U.S.), let me assure you that Canada has plenty of skilled Surgeons. The problem is the socialized system of Health Care that makes it so inefficent. The equipment, once similar to that in the US has become outdated, there is no incentive to research new medical tech, and the most glaring issue is the awful wait times(month after month) and the limit as to what specialists you can see. Most of my friends and relatives will utilize the Canadian system for the mundane medical, but for anything serious they all come to the states.
Sounds like my experience with socialized health care in Europe. I always figured that whatever treatment me and my family was offered in Europe was 5-15 years behind the US in terms of innovation.
Do you think the Progressive sycophants will listen? Nah, me either.
Frankly, if anyone is for the Obamacare shouldn't be aloud to get treated quickly. Especially for those who come across the border to get treatment.
and the largest number of welfare rate to run the cost up…..thats the 30,000,000 that hussein says will be covered,,,,10% of the U.S. population, thats 3 trillion dollars for 30,000,00 welfare rats= 6,666,000 each……oh yeah we bes hav'n the best care…..
This is the great thing about socialized medicine — you ALWAYS get to pay for it and when you need it — its not there.
If you'd been paying attention you'd know that those are the concerns everyone has. Accepting a Euro-Canadian model, which this congress tried to force us into, is not the answer.
And you don't need to take God's name in vain just to insult me.
I've got an idea:
Let's dismantle the WHOLE system so we can include a small number who "truly" do not have access to our current system. Good idea?
That's what the public option and all those "snuck in" items were leading to…
millions don't have access to it
Another lie is there anything you are truthful about?
Cost is high, yes.
Everyone has access to it. If someone goes to the ER, they have to be treated. Its the law. Whether or not they can pay for it is another story.
Then tell those millions to get a job and buy some insurance, crap for brains. Are you so stupid not to realize that if we turn our system into what Canada has, you're not only going to have to wait forever….you still are NOT going to get the best care! Stop calling everyone stupid, get a job and get off my taxpaying back, loser.
"The problem is the socialized system of Health Care that makes it so inefficent."
Canada doesn't have socialized medicine.
And you are a moron.
Newfoundland's Premier Danny Williams must be confused. Maybe he got on the wrong airplane. According to Michael Moore the best healthcare in the world is in socialist Cuba. I'm sure that's where Mr. Williams meant to go.
"And if it's simply a matter of population density, wouldn't he stand a better chance finding a skilled surgeon in say China? India?"
Let's see. One country borders Canada and the other two are on the other side of the world. Which one to choose?
Good God, the stupidity here is breathtaking.
Canada has a single payer system. That is where everyone goes to the doctor, and then the government picks up the tab.
Here is the definition of socialized medicine:
socialized medicine
–noun
any of various systems to provide the entire population with complete medical care through government subsidization and regularization of medical and health services.
"Uh..yes they do."
No they don't. You don't even know what socialized medicine is and you are a moron.
There are 2.2 physicians for every 1000 people in Canada.
There are 2.4 physicians for every 1000 people here in the U.S.
What, are you some kind of anti-Canadian extremist, who believes in the inherent deficiency of Canadian surgeons?
I think he does. Insults are the refuge of the dense.
What do you expect him to do? Make a cogent argument, or something? Not likely.
You're not that bright, are you?
I must disagree. He could be the one to go home and straighten their crappy system out so we will have a place to go after Obama, Reid, and Pelosi screw our healthcare up,
Here you go, Obamao. Here's your opportunity to TAX CANADIANS for your health care "reform". You've taxed everything else.
Yeah, the US has socialized medicine.. its called medicare and medicaid, dipshit.
We also have another socialized entitlement program… its called Social Security..
Oh, and big surprise!! They're all BANKRUPT because they're monumentally inefficient. That's what happens when the government runs stuff.
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Obama's out of money, he and the Democrats need a new cash cow and that's why they want Obamacare so badly. The only way to save money in the budget is to cut spending, but Democrats have too many votes to buy to be doing that.
Obamacare will take care of that problem. They will collect train cars of money for "healthcare" and then spend it where ever they need it. And if they run low on money for healtcare serveres, they will just raise taxes or force healtcare workers to take lower wages or BOTH.
WellPoint, which provides health coverage for about 35 million people nationwide, announced the program that would provide coverage for group members to travel to India for certain nonemergency procedures, such as major joint replacement and upper and lower back fusion.
WellPoint joins a limited list of U.S. health insurers offering medical tourism benefits. Blue Cross and Blue Shield of South Carolina, which is not part of WellPoint, offer overseas care through Companion Global Healthcare.
WellPoint often touts that it is part of the United States' advanced and innovative health-care system. But now the company finds itself looking to export certain care overseas in a search for cost savings.
Where will they all go when we go down the Obama drain?
Racist!!!!!
Mediare and Medicaid aren't bankrupt you flippin moron.
And here I thought the teabagggers supported Medicare.
Remember the town halls? "Keep your government hands off my Medicare"
Hello jharp (aka mental midget), Canada HAS socialized health care. Just because we aren't as bad as the UK doesn't mean we are far behind (and yes I AM CANADIAN who has had to deal with the health care system here). So grow up and start articulating in a grown up manner.
Mexico ?
Yeah, and Americans routinely go to other countries for certain treatments. What's the big deal? If you've got the money, you go to the best in the world wherever that may be.
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Destination: Cleveland Clinic
"Mediare and Medicaid aren't bankrupt you flippin moron. "
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Here you go, buddy. Bottom of the screen, under "unfunded liabilities".
As you can see, our liabilities are more than all of our assets. In other words, we're broke, bud.
I see that you're quite good at calling people 'stupid' and "moron", but have you ever considered that you're projecting? Your bullshit arguments have been thoroughly destroyed on this site. I think its time to pack it in, bub.
yeah maybe you and your boyfriend might go to amsterdam for a sex change but other than that YOUR COMPLETELY WRONG.
Ax, you may have missed the memo. All healthcare workers will be required to join the SEIU, so one thing's for sure, their wages won't be lowered. Taxes will be raised and like all the other government give-aways, money will be moved around to where it's needed to buy votes.
ROFL!!! Couldn't have said it better myself.
By jharp's reasoning Mexico has more surgeons than say, drug dealers?
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"As you can see, our liabilities are more than all of our assets. In other words, we're broke"
You are an unrivaled moron. We are not broke. The last I checked we were still the greatest country in the world.
In spite of George Bush and the republicans leading into a depression.
And unfunded expense, take the Iraq War for example, can be paid for with one small piece of legislation.
God you people are stupid.
The bottom line is they don't care about average people. They only want to control every aspect of their lives. The few people in power, Presidents, Governers, Congressmen, Premiers, Prime Ministers they have been exempt from all the laws. It's time that they be held accountable.
That's capital 'S' if you don't mind.
And yes you are right, you did not have to reassure us that Canada has qualified surgeons.
The bottom line is it not the people, it is the system.
If anything like the travesty lefties want to foist on us passes congress, I predict there will be off shore clinics providing services much closer to us than India. Cuba comes to mind as logical place. It wouldn't take much to topple the geriatric Castro's and with an influx of money, Cuba, only 90 miles from Key West, could be a paradise of good cheap health care.
It'll take more than this bunch of thugs to force a free people with options to their will.
JPA – The problem is that the health care system in Canada is not very good because of the socialist government run system.
You just love getting your ass beat don't you jharp.
Is this like something kinky with you?
Please think before you hit the "submit comment" button.
"I predict there will be off shore clinics providing services much closer to us than India"
There already are, doofus.
Try Mexico.
Are you really that uninformed and ignorant?
Come on!!! why Chicago.
good thinking, we may the ones to have to cross the border for our health care
It's hilarious that you continue to embarrass yourself.
First, Canada's population is approximately 33.5 million.
Secondly, your reasoning (I use the term loosely) is ridiculous. Of course, simply by virtue of our population, we will have more doctors. Better to look at per capita, and that goes for technology too.
The US has more cardiac catheterization and open heart surgery units per capita. More procedures such as heart by-pass, angioplasty, etc., are performed per capita in the US than Canada. Perhaps that's why more men per capita die of heart attacks in Canada than the US.
Furthermore, Canada is an advanced industrialized country. Canada is a wealthy country. There's no reason why they shouldn't have some of the most skilled surgeons in the world (I'm not saying they don't).
You're the birdbrain.
Canadians do not speak Spanish, so he opted for this option .
Sri Lanka…I hear the Buddhists are pretty good healers.
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"You have been disproved on everyone of your vapid thoughts"
Do you mean pointing out that Canada does not have socialized medicine?
Or that U.S. health insurers are outsourcing hip replacements to India?
Or that the United States isn't "broke"?
I like poking you ignorant teabaggers. Sure. I'll continue to post.
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"No one is criticizing the quality of care in the U.S. you morons."
Obama, Pelosi et al seem to indicate that the quality is lacking as is the affordability and access. Unfortunately, all of their proposals do absolutely nothing to improve those health care issues, and everything to make them much worse.
the stupidity follows where you travel-it's part of you
jharp and the sun doesn't have heat–could you be dumber?
Tort reform would bring costs down.
Democrats are opposed to tort reform.
Therefore, Democrats are opposed to bringing costs down.
It's like wrecking the entire house because you don't care for the living room windows.
jerk wad, are you in remedial reading in middle school?
I knew the in-home healthcare people were to be unionized but I didn't know all doctors and nurses were to be unionized as well. Holy cats… the last thing I want to visit is a "union doctor."
ok… ill type slow, so maybe you can understand.
unfunded liabilities = stuff we have to pay for
assets = stuff we have that is worth value
if you have more bills to pay than you have money/things of value to pay with, YOU'RE BROKE.
You can legislate all you want, but you can't make your assets worth more than they currently are worth, just by virtue of passing a piece of legislation. You are living in a dream world, my friend.
what's your definition of socialized medicine?
is single payer a socialized medical system?
what's your definition of socialized medicine?
is single payer a socialized medical system?
You just gave the reason. Best in the world, so he comes to the US. Why, if we have the best in the world, would we want Universal Healthcare and end up with the Canadian equivelent? Where would we go then, or Canadians for that matter?
Yes I do asshole. I have been to Europe and still have family there. Moron. Get a clue and travel and experience it for yourself. socialized medicine sucks!
What are the top five conditions that Americans "routinely" go to other countries to get treatment for and which countries are those? (If you mention sex-change reassignments in Thailand, everyone will mock you for not being serious.)
They're not going to be allowed to screw it up. If they sneak it through, there will be no end to the Constitutionality lawsuits.
Hey dickwad, my dad is on medicare and doctors are turning away patients (medicare) because doctors are not being paid! That's right Moron, the government is not paying because they are broke!! Now he goes to VA (and he should he served 20 years in the Navy). Get your head out of Obama's and Andy Stern's ass; and do a little research on the topic instead of trolling around here like a stupid little bitch you are.
Proving your a moron with every key stroke jharp. So does china have better health care or doctors because theirs over a billion of them? truely a liberal moron. But don't woory liberalism is dying, you can change the name to progressive but that just makes it worse. PROGRESSIVES SUCK
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"is single payer a socialized medical system?"
No. It couldn't be more clear. Socialized medicine here in the U.S. would be the VA. Or over the pond it would be the U.K.
Socilaized medicine is when the doctors nurses and technicians are governmnet employees.
With Medicare all of the work is DONE BY PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS OR COMPANIES. Thus it is not socialized medicine.
Got it?
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It would seem not 1 person agrees with you. I guess their all wrong then. Truely the most moronic staement I've ever heard and I've heard obelman speak., he does come close but you jharp you win hands down. can you make some more comments I need a good laugh
"if you have more bills to pay than you have money/things of value to pay with, YOU'RE BROKE."
And you are an idiot.
One example. A recent college graduate whose student loans far exceed their assets.
God, you people are stupid.
Canada also has lower infant mortality rates and higher life expectancy.
And they spend 1/3 PER CAPITA of what we spend.
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