Friday Free-For-All: Walesa Edition
by PubliusToday, in Chicago, anti-Communist hero Lech Walesa is headlining a Tea Party Rally. The Rally is in support of Republican Candidate for Governor Adam Andrzejewski. 20+ years ago an American President helped Lech take back his country. Today Lech returns the favor and helps us take back ours.
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When it comes to choosing between liberty and tyranny, Lech Walesa gets it.
"When it comes to choosing between liberty and tyranny, Lech Walesa gets it."
He sure does ! He has guts too, to stand against the Soviets the way he did.
That would be a great rally.
A great man.
I always wonder about the people who die, before the famous freedom fighter is found.
If it weren't for the ones who die there would not be the famous freedom fighter.
Those are the truly great, and forgotten.
If I was anywhere close to there, I'd do whatever I had to to be at that event. As far as I'm concerned, that guy is s true hero.
Very true. I hope it dosent come to that here in the US again.
He started a truly amazing revolution unlike the "democratic revolution in Venzuala".
just looked out the window and it's a huge sheet of ice over the entire neighborhood…even the yard is a sheet of it…really bizarre looking for OK…..more rain/snow and a whopping 25 degrees today…burrrrrrrr
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You'll get a laugh!
I well remember the tenuous days of Lech Walesa and the Solidarity movement. Those people took their very lives in their hands, and stood up to a brutal, tyranical regime, all in an effort to bring about change. They simply wanted to be treated as Human Beings, and they wanted Government out of their lives. They did it.
It is time WE now stood up, to effectuate peaceful and lawfull change against the current regime that has pulled a coup in our country.
It was just last year that the missile defense betrayal of Poland at the hands of Obama occurred. Welcome to America Lech Walesa. Your support of a conservative in the home of the beast will send a message to Obama that payback is a real bitch.
That must have been when change actually meant change and not maintaining the status quo while calling it change.
Dear American People,
Let me ask you this…are you a believer in freedom and liberty for people or are you a believer that it's much better to live as a slave? We have a serious problem here in America that is defining just that. Are you free or are you a slave? Well the answer to that will be determined with the passing of time and what the American citizens do about the AMERICAN CRIME OF THE CENTURY! If you stand up and fight this most obvious and blatant assault on the U.S. Constitution being perpetrated and committed by the democrats and the republicans, well then you are a believer in freedom and liberty for the people. If you just stand by and do nothing and go along with what the democrats and republicans want you to believe about Barack Obama being a legitimate president then you prefer to live your life out as a slave!
The democrats and republicans betrayed WE THE PEOPLE and the U.S. Constitution by allowing an unqualified candidate (Barack Obama) run (and win) for the Office of the President with their waving of their middle finger to ARTICLE 2 SECTION 1of the U.S. Constitution which as the Supreme Law of the Land says that to be a candidate to run for the Office of the President a candidate must be a "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN", Barack Obama is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and has no business occupying the people's White House and putting America in a state of international danger with his policies of incompetence! If this is an example of how elected officials who swear oath to serve, uphold and protect the Constitution, but to only turn around and practice treason to the Constitution, think of the Constitution! Then we are nothing but tax paying slaves to them unless WE THE PEOPLE stand up and fight because as it is right now your government thinks of you as a helpless slave! This is what America has become!
Its interesting that the looney left cost paper think that it is great that the RNC strokes down Litmus Test yesterday in Hawaii.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election...
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la...
This is why I now longer will give to the RNC. From now own I will give directly to candidates I align with. The internet has made campaign contributions painless and negated the need for me to support the RNC and the rhino running.
By God, if ever we needed an anti-Communist personality speaking in this country, it is right now!
I would love to see Beck interview Lech Walesa on his TV show.
Wow! There’s real irony in the fact that Lech Walesa is coming to the States, to help save us from our own Marxist (progressive) tendencies.
hmmm the same people that ridicule the unions here are praising walesa….interesting
One of he great Polish sayings: "For our freedom and yours." Lech Walesa lives by it.
Perhaps Lech would allow us to clone him while he is here. Turn those kids loose on the Democrats and we would have things cleared up in short time.
I don't think you quite understand what Walensa's Solidarity "Union" was all about. I'll tell you it wasn't anything like the UAW.
you seriously just said that? wow stunning simply stunning mark one up for our educational system
You are correct. You "get it".
The clown above is clueless.
Well please enlighten us zeakster, what do YOU think Walensa's Solidarity "Union" was all about? We are waiting.
I enjoyed reading Walesa's book A Way of Hope. He's one of those regular guys who accomplished great things along with the other people of Solidarity. And he's the kind of man towards whom our current elites look down their noses. The members of the Obama Personality Cult would all think that they know oh so much better than him. They would laugh at the idea of an electrician leading a political movement, and then a country. Why, he didn't go to any Ivy League school!!!
His appearance in Chicago reminds me how missionaries from Africa and elsewhere have come over here to support orthodox Christians who are struggling in mainline churches such as the Episcopal Church. We've gone so far away from our founding principles in this country that we're being supported by those from abroad who were inspired by our better predecessors.
Is there someone in a union anywhere in america with the balls to stand up to the soviet union? NO THERE ISN'T. You can't even stand up to union bosses. His union was a union of oppressed people your unions are unions of people who oppress businesses and destroy them you know like GM abd Chrysler. He's a true hero while your obama is a true fraud theres no comparison ones a man and ones a boy.
Walesas' Union was all about freedom, unlike the SEIU, UAW,
and the rest of them that want to suppress freedoms…There
is no comparison with Solidarity and the Unions here except
the word Union……
We sent Adam a donation last Friday, I believe someone
put his website on one of the threads…I hope Walesa will
inspire all freedom loving people in Chicago to vote for
Adam, and Adam becomes the next Governor, wouldn't
that be great!
Exactly correct, somehow I don't think zeakster understands that. He sees the word "Union" and is thinking in terms of trade unions.
no ones waiting except for you. my days of teaching are long over why dont you open a book befor you make a statement you think is smart. yu have no understanding of poland or its unions and you definatly have no idea who or what walesa did. or for that matter why he did it. instead you make a little quip and all the drones applaude you. none of you have a clue what walesa did and you dont have a clue what the non walesas did. your young and ignorant and i fear you will all stay that way
If Zeak was a teacher, I'm Elvis Presley….lol…On second thought,
he might have been a teacher, since they unionized, the caliber of
teacher has gone downhill tremendously…..
OK Zeak, deny us your grand knowledge. I guess we will just have to rely on history.
I think more and more people are waking up to the fact that socialist government policies that appear to help them are actually hurting them, and that the people who are selling them this garbage are the only ones who win.
Let's not use a "Union" to get it done!!! Let's just use the voting booths, if it's not already too late?
Now here is a REAL hero. I guess Lech can smell out a commie when he has to.
First photo of Lech with Andrzejewski – Posted on Twitter by the Andrzejewski campaign
http://race42008.com/2010/01/29/welcome-lech/
Here, here! If I was near, I'd go, too. Mr. Walesa has more integrity and courage in his pinky than Duh one could ever hope for. Oops, now I remember, truth and honor mean nothing to our (p)Resident.
I hope someone records Lech Walesa's speech and broadcasts it.
As usual Obama targets your future, your children's and grandchildren's:
NO FUTURE FOR YOU
http://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/no-fu...
Yeah, it made a mess over here in NM…
Global Warming at work…
Exactly.
Assuming he "thinks" at all…
I got to reading that, and my eyes teared up…my GOD, we have fallen so fast, so far, haven't we…?
Okay. Time to suck it up…
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more…"
Thanks for the redirect…
This man is an American Hero.
I remember when "Solidarność" started…and I fully expected to see Soviet tanks in the streets one day, like so many times before…
Between Lech Walesa, John Paul II, Maggie Thatcher, and Ronnie Wilson Reagan, the world was transformed…
Thanks Lech, for coming here and reminding us who we were…and should be again…
Glad I'm Polish…
It is time to draw the Sandy Line
With all of the divisiveness and bitterness we, the American People, have both propagated and endured over the past 20 years, I propose a way for us to gain real clarity. This proposal will help the American People, and particularly Congress understand where the majority of this country wants to go in the future. We are at a crossroads in the country. With an out-of-control budget deficit and a high national debt, we need have no choice but to pick one of the following two options. Government either needs to get out of the People’s way or become more efficient in passing laws and managing our lives. We cannot stay on the current mixed economic path and spend more money that we don’t have. We must choose one of these two paths. Seriously, either choice will be better for our posterity during the 21st century.
Proposal:
Have an open and honest ideological vote on the foundation of this country as we move forward into the 21st century. There will be 2 choices proposed on the November 2010 ballot—one for a free republic and free enterprise market system and one for a progressive republic and centrally planned mixed market economy. Both sides will need to be comfortable with the wording on both options. It would be the only way the sides would agree to do this. The only requirement, out of respect for the American People, is that there is no political speak allowed. No Orwellian newsspeak or any circular logic, no “having one’s cake and eating it too.” The wording will be abrupt and to the point.
I recommend it look something like this:
Dear United States Citizen: Please vote for the option you want the federal government to use as a blueprint for the 21st century, from year 2010 – to year 2100. By voting, you are making a commitment to the United States that you will abide by the results and support those leaders who best fulfill the most popular blueprint. If you vote for the less popular option you are making a personal commitment to “agree to disagree” and support the majority or peaceably leave the country.
Blueprint #1: Free Republic/Free Market System
For the 21st century, the Federal Government of the United States should be a free republic based on a free enterprise market system. This system follows the U.S. Constitution and looks to this nation’s founding fathers for its structure. In this system, a citizen will have the freedom to fail and the freedom to succeed. The Federal Government will not have the resources to perform bailouts or other rescue efforts. The Federal Government will not be able to restrict any liberties of its citizens. Its only roles will be: (1) Organizing and maintaining a limited military with its only purpose to defend the country from enemies foreign and domestic, not nation building, (2) Protecting its citizens from tyranny, crime, or any other rights-restricting activities, including any individual state mandates or restrictions on freedom, (3) Overseeing interstate commerce and providing the opportunity for citizens to conduct enterprise across state lines, (4) Produce and manage a nationwide currency for the ability to more effectively trade in goods and services, (5) Levy enough taxes to pay for the effective operation of the above activities.
All other potential government activities can be debated, discussed, and rejected or approved at the state level. Social Security will be phased out over the next several decades. Those over 50 will see no change in benefits. Those under 50 will slowly see adjustments to age and monetary requirements. Welfare will end. Churches, charities, and other viable organizations will need to fully take on the welfare requirement. This includes money for Haiti or any other disaster. State and local governments will need to be wholly responsible for the welfare of its citizens for domestic disasters, like Hurricane Katrina. Charities and the American People, with complete economic liberty, can assist as well.
Every adult citizen of the United States will pay some tax, but everyone’s federal taxes will be considerably lower. Each citizen will have every opportunity to succeed in life. Successful citizens can freely give their money to help others. States, through the ballot box or their legislatures, can decide to provide welfare services, social security and any other program for their citizens.
Blueprint #1 is a vote for lower taxes, a smaller Federal government, more individual freedom, strong national defense, unlimited opportunity. It is also a vote for a restriction in the rights of the Federal government to redistribute wealth and spend money on anything outside of the 5 defined roles.
Blueprint #2: Progressive/Centrally planned Economic System
For the 21st century, the Federal Government must be redefined and rebuilt. Our founding fathers had no ability to fully understand the complexity of 21st century life in the United States. Therefore, we will review our founding documents, taking the parts that make sense today and add them to a new contract with the American People. We will also remove those parts that no longer make sense. With today’s complex problems, the Federal government can no longer afford to be inefficient with its duties. The existing difficulties of passing legislation must be streamlined. In order to do their job effectively and better help those in need, the branches of the Federal government must have more influence and control within this centrally planned system. This blueprint relies on FDR’s Second Bill of Rights to better define the role of the Federal Government in the 21st century. The government will provide to all its citizens: (1) The right to useful employment,(2) The right earn enough to provide adequate food, clothing, and recreation, (3) The right to sell products at a return to give one a decent living, (4) The right of every business to be free from unfair competition and monopolies, (5) The right to a decent home, (6) the right to healthcare and opportunity to achieve good health, (7) The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age sickness, accident, and unemployment, (8) The right to a good education.
The Federal government will design and build the institutions, departments, and agencies to enforce and administer these new rights. It will have the power to tax and manage currency. It will also be responsible for enforcing the original bill of rights, as well as be responsible for national defense. To increase efficiency, state and local governments will now become a part of the Federal system. With one government system, economic planning will be more effective and efficient.
With the new Centralized Nation Government in place, there will be times when the new bill of rights conflict with each other. (Example: #3 could conflict with #2 if a business cannot sell their products for enough money to provide its employees with adequate resources.) In these cases, central planners and administrators will determine and create the needed restrictions, rules, and management devices to ensure compliance with these new rights.
Businesses will work closely with government officials to supply the right products and services for the people. All prices for goods will be reasonable. But we therefore cannot guarantee all businesses will be successful. The new Central government can only ensure that individuals will have enough of life’s necessities. The amount will be determined by the central government.
Because of the added burdens of government, taxes will need to be raised substantially. Everyone will need to pay, with the richest paying upwards of 90% of their income, while those less fortunate will receive more than they give. This will ensure an equitable distribution of wealth regardless of station, race, creed, or religion. There will be no rich and no poor. The middle class will vary some, but the standard of living for everyone will be lower than what it has been over the past 20 years. The standard of living in the United States during the past two decades is not sustainable. The American People must live within a fiscal budget. We can no longer borrow money from foreign countries just to meet our basic necessities.
Blueprint #2 is a vote for higher taxes, lower standard of living, and the right to healthcare, a job, a home, and an education. It is also a vote for fewer individual liberties and more restrictions on business.
Which would you vote for? Honestly, I think it would be much closer than many of us care to imagine. My guess is that #1 would beat #2 in a 60/40 split without all of the doublespeak and euphemisms we use today in our language. Sadly, I believe that roughly 40 percent of ALL 300 million of us would probably go for security over freedom.
Genius! Great comment.
I hope you didn't "teach" spelling!
I have read more than a few comments from those who suffered at the hands of Communism before managing to make it to the U.S. They all said that they could see happening here exactly what happened in their former countries, and it terrifies them, in addition to making them think U.S. citizens must be nuts!
The fall of communism was a great achievement of the folks in Eastern Europe. The only thing that makes me pause is that Solidarnost also was supported by Soros and when coming to power they run Poland into a hyperinflation. Other than that I have great respect for Valesa.
Re: "Barack Obama is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN…"
Obama is a natural born citizen. He was born in Hawaii, and the original meaning of Natural Born, which still applies to him, is simply "born in the country."
He was elected 69 million votes to 59 million. He received 365 Electoral Votes, a huge majority. Not one of the 365 that he won changed her or his vote. Not one member of Congress voted against Obama when the election was confirmed.
The Wall Street Journal commented: "Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn."
For some time now, I have been concisely writing on the RNC form why I am not donating any money. Then, I return it to them in the postage-paid envelope. It costs them money to read my opinion.
I understand that enough people have begun doing that that it is making them sit up and take notice. Of course, they cry, "But how can we get good people elected without money?"
To that, I say, people are beginning to support true patriots directly, without donating it to the parties. I offer Scott Brown as evidence.
When/if there is again a party that I feel has the best interests of U.S. citizens at heart, I will begin donating to it again.
By the way, the RNC phone caller for donations last week found himself telling me HE had run out of time. I just kept listing off reasons why I was not giving them a cent. I could tell, based on his responses, that he was not just a call center employee – and that he was starting to hear like sentiments from others.
Try it. Even it if didn't change a thing, it was quite satisfying.
Adam is the man for this State and I would go the gamut of support for him. He will step up to face the Chicago Machine, Mayor Daily. Madigan and all that have put Illinois into the corrupt state it is.
NO one running will do it as THEY HAVE been in office for x number of years!
Without STEPPING up and taking on those who are the problems.
It can be done by a senator as well. Some 'sound PURE' but they are not once you educate on what they have done in their past. We have 'traitors to the party' and Rino's for sure!
I will talk 'nothing negative about anyone' specific and I could yet I will shout it to the state and we will see a Miracle in Illinois with Adam as the Governor. Adam Angie fff ski will be the man that would bring honor and pride back to Illinois.
Thank you to anti-Communist hero Lech Walesa for coming to AMERICA and the State of Illinois!
WAKE UP your neighbors and friends that are being complacent and not standing for pure freedom!
The United States WILL NOT become a communistic country!!! President oboma- WE DO NOT QUIT EITHER!
Fighting the (false?) battles of yesterday will not win you the war of tomorrow.
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Yes, Mjolnir, its shocking how far down we've fallen. In my history reading I'm constantly reminded about how, before the age of "Progressives," the vast majority of Americans believed wholeheartedly in the US Constitution, the rule of law, God and other so-called traditional American beliefs. Even during the Civil War, as horrible as it was then, both sides pointed to the US Constitution as their ideal. The Confederates modelled much of their constitution on that of the US, and Unionists like Lincoln believed it was their sacred duty to defend our Constitution. The "progressives," the New Deal and especially the 1960's sure changed that, didn't it? But, like you said Mjolnir, "Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more…"!
Yes TexasRancher, it must be horribly shocking to those victims of Communism and other forms of Socialism. I think in a major way we didn't actually win the Cold War. It was won for much of central and eastern Europe, of course, but Marxism hasn't been discredited enough here and around the world. I don't think we'll be successful until apologists for Marx, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Che, Trotsky, etc. will be given the same sort of widespread disapproval that Holocaust deniers now get. We're a long way from there.
Those do sound like words of someone who doesn't care about America and it's future.
You are so cute when you're one-track minded
Well instead of showing how ignorant you are of the subject matter that I speak of, why don't you show us your intelligence and explain to us the error of our ways!
I recorded it. It was awesome.
Bill Kristol calling out Obama for congratulating himself for "ending" the war in Iraq. He didn't end the war in Iraq, our soldiers led by their Commander in Cheif, George Bush, succeed in Iraq!
http://www.thefoxnation.com/international/2010/01...
My friend, I'm glad you are Polish also.
"Between Lech Walesa, John Paul II, Maggie Thatcher, and Ronnie Wilson Reagan, the world was transformed… "
You and I have lived lng enough to really see the world change. Where have all our heros gone? We have watched them change the world. Most of them are dead and gone now, and the world will forever be a lesser place.
We have sure seen some good people, eh?
Not like the current crowd of ne'er do wells.
Might as well compare the DNC to the NAZI after all their both parties right?
Well, I intend to see it again…even if I have to park a truck on the Dimocrat Party…
Thanks for being here, shoulder to shoulder, against the tide…
Adam is 1 of only 2 true conservatives in Illinois gov. race on either party. The other is Dan Proft. I know there is much to like about Adam, but I think Proft is the true reformer. He is the only one proposing a 50% cut in the states income, corporate tax, and elimination of the estate tax. Here is link of him on MSNBC commenting on the SOTU address. Every debate I watched he was clear and precise on his policy revolution, he likes to call it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc46peeU3Zw&fe...
Good for Mr. Walesa, I wish you luck sir….
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