Tuesday Open Thread: Suffrage Edition
by PubliusToday, in 1915, the House of Representatives voted down a measure to give women the right to vote. The following year, Republican Jeanette Rankin was the first woman elected to Congress.
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Damn shame it was passed later… Look what we have as a result. Pelosi, Clinton, Abzug, Feinstein, Sebelius. The list is endless…..
And now we have Fancy Nancy….Boxer and Diane Frankenstein!!
Looks like our minds were on the same track….lol…
Surely you two are not implying that men, who ran the show solo long before women were on the scene are any better?
And the blacks think THEY were the only ones discriminated against! Please, somebody TEACH history!!!
I was implying that the 3 I mentioned would be a disappointment
to those sweet looking happy faced ladies on top…lol
On a more positive note the paradigm is rapidly changing for the better. There are many true Conservative women heading into the political limelight. We just need to confiscate the brooms these liberal women ride and sweep them from the polotical landscape !
Another shining point–the millions of women who can now vote!
And that CAN be a great thing. As long as you don't support the killing of innocent unborn children under the guise of "female reproductive rights" where the unborn HAS NO CHOICE in the matter. Or where you might vote to extinguish the charter school voucher program and ram these kids back into failed public schools. I could go on and on….
It's not what sex people are, it's the content of their character that matters.
In a perfect world certainly… So you might deny that black voters cast votes based on race ? Or that some women vote their gender on reproductive issues ? I frankly agree with you that character and content SHOULD be the focus…..sadly not true, however…
PL 97-280, 96 Stat 1211, 10/4/82 (The Word of God) actually gives an explanation for the woman’s secondary position. Before their violation they were equal in authority evidently and each, male & female were complimentary to each other. After the Fall,Adam & Eve were given punishments individually and severally. One of them for the woman was to have pain in childbirth. There is no other mammal species that has pain in childbirth, except for the Human-Kind. The woman’s equality should be restored in the coming Kingdom Age as the curses will be removed.
Did I mention race? This character thing applies to EVERYONE. Period. Women should have the vote. Men should have the vote. Citizens of all races should have the vote. Is that clear enough for you?
Oh fer gawd's sake. I just knew some fundamentalist would come on here spouting this. You have something in common with the Islamofasicts; they hate women, too. By the way, I suggest you sit down sometime and read about Deborah in the Book of Judges. Women's rights were gained by fighting for them. No one gave us anything.
Yeah, as opposed to Kucinich, Grayson, Reid, Dodd, Harkin, Baucus, Durbin, Hoyer, Stark or OBAMA. What a wonderful collection of male politicians.
Palin will appear with Obama apologist, O'Reilley tonight on The Factor.
What was it Ann Coulter said about women and the vote?
I guess I’m fortunate all the women in my life are fiercely independent, freedom loving, conservative Americans, that see government largess as bondage.
That's what all the anger on this blog is all about… white fear of losing our privileged position in society now that we have elected a black president. The claims of reverse discrimination are a smoke screen. Political cover for fear; not that we will be reduced to bondage, but that others may approach parity.
"We the people" is code for white people. "Freedom" is code for separate. You fool no one.
yeah, that's a fortunate family trait Stan. have some envy on that one, but my family has a trait that also provides hope in these troubling times. In our family men learn early that you DO NOT want to hit the women's vicious button. Judging by the Palins,Bachmans,Malkins,etc.. that have stepped up – I think the libs have made the mistake of hitting the vicious button. I think women just may lead us out of this mess now.
Two questions:
1. If this hadn't passed, would we still be trying to fend off a nanny state today? If not, why not.
2. Sarah Palin is the only female political household name today whose husband isn't a major political, economic, and/or legal power broker, and we all see how poorly she has been treated by the political establishment. So, just how far have we really come baby, and how much of it is just window dressing?
Need I remind you that is was women who were on the forefront of the Tea Party Movement. Don't mess with voting moms. Seriously.
I wonder how many of the women on this list would have vocally supported women's suffrage? Would you have marched alongside your progressive brothers or nodded in agreement as your husband lamented those "loose women protesters" and a world gone to hell.
One thing is obvious. Women have rewarded the progressives in most elections since, regardless of party affiliation. President Obama carried their vote 56-43, and that was after McCain put a woman on the ticket.
Change is hard work and the status quo is always the path of least resistance.
Conservative women aren't still fighting for equality. We know we are equal and have moved on to fighting the good fight with our male counterparts. We are all one nation; equal under the constitution. That's good enough for me.
What? The first woman elected to Congress after the passage of suffrage was a Republican? That has to be a misprint because we all know that it is the Democrats who are all inclusive yadda yadda yadda.
Deborah took over because the men were weak…it appears. I named my 1st daughter Deborah and of course told her that story. Her middle name is Renee (French for Born Again sort of) Her lst name Debortah means Queen like, also busy as a bee)…We were the lst country to give women equal rights.
So, the woman of all of the other countries are still suffering acdg to the Original Bible story. We do not hate women, but are to treat our wives as a precious gift. I'm actually very glad that women are filling in many positions of leadership whether in business or politics, as we are missing 50,000,000 citizens due to abortions. "We are endowed by our Creator with certain Unalienable Rights"…Use your rights please and see what yours or our certain unalienable rights are.
A day that will live in infamy. Females have been the backbone of every communist and socialist movement in the world. They have made the USA into a matriarchy and produced 3 generations of effeminate men with no backbone who have become incapable of defending this country. They have also caused the election of our first communist president because they vote with their emotions instead of their brains. "Feminists" have contributed to the murder of millions of unborn children and destroyed the American family. Women's suffrage should be lamented rather then celebrated.
Sarah Palin is the best one out there. She's got the finger on our America pulse. And she is a Christian Fundamentalists and has stated that she is part of God's Plan. Use your rights and find out His Plan.
Check out the new version of "Mmm Mmm Mmm Barack Hussein Obama" at: http://www.myspace.com/rogerweber
You'll get a laugh!
R-A All The Way, Sir! I could never figure out why my 1st wife always voted against me! Women are "left-brained" and men are "right-brained", or vice versa. However, the woman have a few extra "circuits" that allow them to "cross over" at times. It's kind of like this. You and I go to an under-developed country in the boonies. We bring along some trinket gifts for the people. We have basic tools as well as mirrors & beads. The natural man will take the tools, and the naturlal woman will take the mirrors. Later they begin to share of course.
Don't get too excited about Rankin's having been a Republican. Mere days after she was sworn into Congress, she voted against the US declaring war in WWI. She served only one term, going on to serve in other "progressive" causes. She returned to Congress, winning a seat in the 1940 election, running on an anti-war platform. She again voted against declaring war on Japan (after Pearl Harbor?!?), but when a separate vote was taken on declaring war against Germany and Italy, she opted to merely vote "present".
What was it that Ann Coulter observed (in her typically intellectually puckish manner) about how things have gone downhill in this country ever since women were given the right to vote?
Ah, yes. we know obama has a problem with strong women.
Is it because of:
THE PASSION OF THE PICKLE-YELLER
http://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/the-p...
Thanks Roger, it's work for me. I'm going to "bookmark" your site and spread the Word. Music is a very, very powerfull, if not the Most Powerfull Teaching system….and really it has to be used more. A simple reminder fact is that Pres. Nixon tried to keep The Beatles out of America….Why? Because their music was promoting drugs and anti-christian themes as well….and shortly thereafter came more pot usage, LSD and whatever else.
Airborne, AMEN!
LET ME REVISE YOUR STATEMENT PALIN WILL APPEAR WITH TWO APOLOGISTS, BILL OREILLY AND HIS GUEST.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, OREILLY IS AN OBAMA APOLOGIST, HE EVEN WENT TO WH FOR A PARTY
No. It IS Nancy. Botox is a wonderful thing.
It's not a question of the sex of the voter these days. It is the question of how many times did they vote? Let's ask Obummer, Bertha Lewis, and Andy Stern.
No…that is Pelosi herself.
Glad to know what a Pickle Yeller is. I checked out your link, too. Looks like Pickle Yellers are The Entitlement people in action.
Me thinks you have opened a can of worms. How can you say that women have been the backbone of every communist and socialist movement? Women really did not have ranking in any communist party. Where were the men ? Oh yeah, forgot. The were out there bashing each other overt the head, pillaging, raping and conquering something…anything.
And where were the husbands when these so-called women have been bringing up 3 generations of effeminate men? Oh yeah, they were trying to figure out how to start another war somewhere so they could conquer something be it in the corporate world or political world. If not that, they were sitting in some bar every night belching beer.
I'll give you points for the "emotion over brains" comment, but I would like to see the actual satistics that the Libtard women were responsible for obama winning. Plus I'll give you points for the dispicable idiotic feminists who at times contract rabies and go off the deep end.
BUT don't lump all women into a category. Historically women have been the brunt of abuse for men and treated like slaves. Thats why the fringe groups succeeded in mobilizing them. Unfortunately, the crazies get all the attention and the rest of us suffer for their behavior. I hate them just like you do.
You are confused. New Zealand is arguably the first country still in existence that gave women the right to vote in 1893 (but not the right to stand for parliament until 1919). Finland gave universal suffrage in 1906, the first European country to do so, and the first country in the world to make all citizens eligible to run for government. For the US, the Nineteenth Amendment was ratified in 1920.
Hey, great sound!! Lots of talent and work went into these songs. Will pass this around to other Conservative sites.
This is great news! For Barack Obama!
Wow, what a fantastic article! Pickle yellers and teabaggers unite!
Totally. Anyway, if the poor people die off, it's of their own will, they really could have made more for themslves. I hate to say it but it will probably just help 'thin the herd' abit. Now if we can just get poor people to stop having kids, they won't have kids who die anyway when they're young because they don't have a doctor but it's their own fault really. I'm looking after ME and I suggest everyone else do the same.
Same thing could be said about the Constitution and slavery prior to the Civil War, as Frederick Douglass contended. Nothing in the Constitution at that time mentioned slavery, not even the 2/3rds clause. Judges interpreted the Constitution as only applying to white men.
Jeez, talk about using emotions over brains. You're statement is proof-positive that women don't have a monopoly on that sort of thing.
"Females have been the backbone of every communist and socialist movement in the world." Uh, really? Every one? And here I thought Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Castro, etc. were dudes. I'm pretty sure Ayn Rand was a woman. As is Maggie Thatcher. Your statement is way too general to be taken seriously. Women didn't "cause" the election of Obama. He needed more than just the "female vote" to win. There were lots of men (like my bro-in-law) who voted for Obama. But I'm sure that was some woman's fault, right?
So you are saying in your posts that although you do not like that women can vote (or hold office) – if they HAVE to they had better vote in lock step with you?
Please, if I am reading your posts here incorrectly let me know.
Right Side, Having and valuing good character is not a "perfect world" thing.
And what do you mean "vote their gender".
Maybe you need to examine the content of your OWN character!
She ran in Montana. She voted Democrat. She got booted. The system worked.
Huh? Please…go visit a Eugenics site or something. 'Kay?
Airborne. I thought long and hard about just ignoring your comment in large part because it is beyond ignorant and I don't like wasting my time, but I decided to address it.
As for women contributing to the number of abortions…this is very true and a tragedy. Mainly because women are the ones who get pregnant. Yet, I submit that in many, many cases of abortion it is the MAN who is paying for it because he doesn't want the responsibility of raising a child. Both sexes can share the blame for the number of abortions. No one is innocent in this scenario except the unborn child.
Also, I would like you to go back to Roe V Wade and point out ALL the women who voted in favor of abortion being a Right. What? You can't. No didn't think so, because the Supreme Court was all men back in the day.
Ms. Rankin was instrumental in securing the vote for women in Montana in 1914 and, even after a failed re-election bid in 1919, she led the charge to ratify the 19th amendment in 1921. Further, she was the founding vice-president of the ACLU, an organization whose only purpose was to protect and expand individual civil liberties while protecting the original, founding principals of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Once again, please remember that while your liberal friends are busy patting themselves on the back for their humanitarian views, Republican, conservative, constructionists were the original progressives and are responsible for every meaningful civil rights movement in the history of America. From emancipation and suffrage to the modern equal rights movement of the 60's, which would have failed thanks to Kennedy's own party without the strong, almost unilateral, support of Republican legislators (until LBJ co-opted the movement, that is). It's just that Conservatives understand the difference between equal rights, which means equal opportunity, and free handouts, cynically used to create dependence and buy voter loyalty….
The path of least resistance is always downhill, and with the wind.
I'm just saying poor people are going to die anyway because they don't have doctors. Which is really their fault – unlike babies, they have a choice.
We are talking about women's right to vote on this thread… are you suggesting that it has somehow caused us to go "downhill"?
And this time, use your words.
Ms. Rankin was raised a pacifist and believed that if she, as a woman, couldn't be ordered to fight and die in a war, then she couldn't, in good concience, order others to fight and die on her behalf. Not the most unreasonable of principled stands, even if I don't agree. BTW, she did support WWII after both the house and senate supported the declaration.
I know that she held other liberal views, especially later in life, but there's no such thing as a 'pure' conservative or libertarian, is there? The point of my comments was to illustrate that conservatives and constructionists have always led way in the civil rights arena until LBJ co-opted the language of civil rights to further his own agenda and the agenda of the Democratic party.
I think I was pretty clear in using the historical context of the word 'progressive', while you chose to focus on the contemporary usage. I'm as disgusted with the current usage as you are, especially since it's used as a cover for liberalism and socialism. Yesteday's progressives were civil libertarians, read 'libertarian'.
Nope, not a racist, how bout Sheila Jackson Lee?….lol….It
was 5:30 in the morning when I wrote that, and I was lucky
I was able to think at all……
Wasn't implying that at all….The thread is about the Suffragettes so
women politicians came to mind…….I can think of a lot of male pols too.
Maybe I should have said 90 percent of those in D.C alone, and 100%
in Chicago….(Just grabbing numbers out of the air now…..lol)
Oh, and remember Ron Paul? Another conservative Libertarian, pricipled pacifist. Remember his position on both Gulf wars, Vietnam, Korea and even his treatise on WWII? He felt that we should have never entered the war in Europe and only engaged in the Pacific to the degree necessary in order to protect Hawaii and our protecorates. He, of course, moderated that position during the nomination process.
And while I hate to disagree with Ann Coulter, we have to remember that Democrats have been trying to re-shape America in thier own image since before the ratification of the 19th amendment. Remember Boss Tweed or the early, almost wholely corrupt unionizing efforts. While the Democratic party was founded as anti-federalist, they almost immediately began supporting federalist causes and supporting legislation that diminished states rights in favor of special interests. In fact, it was the Tammany Hall scandal, among many others, that pushed Republicans to pick up the anti-Federalist banner.
Yeeeeaaaahhhh . . . uh, ok. So, the whole thing about, here and now, in Christ, there is neither "male nor female" has no bearing on how we are to treat women? That there may be a structure within the FAMILY setting or within the Church (that established by Christ, not a "loose association of believers" or "a general set of beliefs," but a Church, the pillar and ground of Truth – a title not even given to Scripture) has no bearing, generally speaking, on women voting or holding office. I do believe in the idea that, *generally speaking*, there are inherent differences between men and women. However, treating each as an individual, given individual free will by God, means that when it comes to political situations, we need to look at specific individuals AS individuals.
Also, back when there actually were Christian nations, there were amazing queens that also in charge.
And are we also to forget that, even within the marriage setting, there is a type of equality (in the Western sense) that commands husbands to love their wives as Christ loves the Church (His own Body)? This type of "interpretation" of the Faith isn't wrong because it's "backwards" in Western terms, but because it doesn't hold true to the Faith delivered once for all to the saints (Jude 3).
the sinner,
Patrick
This anniversary is a good thing? Ok, just kidding. I dunno, I think there are other amendments that have done more damage, even taking a misogynistic view of the instant amendment, that we could "lament" more.
I have a hard time believing that giving women the right to vote has been the, or even a main, contributor to feminist causes and cultural feminization. After all, couldn't one argue "where were all the fathers and husbands while all of that was going on? If women are to be led, who failed in letting them 'think for themselves?'"
Either way, I know I'd trust my wife, personally, in making a political decision than the vast majority of people, male and female, that I have met.
the sinner,
Patrick
I hate to say this but….
With those hats, I can see why many were reluctant to let them vote!
Our country has and is evolving, daily. The concern I hold is that the more minorities that hold positions of power will not make laws for the whole of society, but will legislate the majority into bondage.
Yes, I'm talking about the rich white "folk" that our President keeps holding up as evil and social injustice. Reparations and retaliation for "crimes" committed centuries before. I have never owned a slave or restricted a woman in any way.
"We the people" means something entirely different today than it did 230 years ago, but the spirit and letter of that oppression lifting document still hold true and has benefitted all. With liberty and justice for all.
Any person alive today has never been subjected to the discrimination or terrors that "We the People" fought against and liberated themselves from. Our founders bestowed upon us a gift, let's not forsake it. God bless and God help us, all.
Interesting note. The Constitution prior to this didn't allow discrimination against women in voting. It was only because judges at the time refused to follow the constitution did it become necessary to craft an amendment.
Ojne of the serveral biblical interpretations for wo-man or wife is A Female Warrior…is that wrong too?
Those are just the participants. Don't forget the liberals they have voted in like FDR.
EVEN RACISM IS EMBRACED IF IT MEANS THE ADVANCEMENT OF THEIR TWISTED SOCIALIST AGENDA
Nice and concise. I like your style.
"It's the people's seat!"
Love that Scott Brown!
Exactly! Pickle-yellers! Perhaps ACORN and SEIU should change their shirt color to pickle green.
Don't forget Maxine Waters. Are you racist or something? and I have to give a shout-out to my puppet-of-a-senator, Kirsten Gillibrand.
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Not sure of the point being made here but it demonstrates a lack of understanding about the rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution.
Nowhere in the original document does it talk about a "right to vote' for anyone. At least not like it guarantees a freedom of speech. It requires that representatives be elected by "the People", but does not specify who exactly the people are who may vote. That was left for the states to decide.
Court rulings would have been based on interpretations of state laws.
Good news? How about adios moron.
This was for Obama4eva.
Oh, no, man–the hats are way cool! Look at their faces. *That* is the reason for the reluctance. They were missing something, and it wasn't the vote. One still sees that sort of woman's face nowadays, too, and often at political rallies.
And during the last election, it was the women vote who overwhelmingly voted for BHO!
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