Sunday Open Thread: Common Sense Edition

Common Sense?

Who needs that when you can just stare deeply into the eyes of Dear Leader and let the soaring rhetoric deliver you to nirvana?

And pay no mind to Fox or Rasmussen, or you'll risk losing your buzz, lol

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only tax payers should be allowed……..

Common sense is so important in everyday life…Those that don't
have it seem to always have lots of problems, whether it's financial,
getting along, or doing the right thing…
Seems to me Common sense in politics should be just as
important if not more so, but alas, as underarock stated,' there is
no longer any common sense' therefore in my humble opinion,
we will always have big problems unless we all start getting more
involved and staying involved…
It seems like those that observe and learn from others mistakes
have the least problems..It would be great if our "dear leaders"
would watch what's happening in other countries and learn
from their mistakes instead of following in their footsteps, as in
healthcare. Arrogance seems to take over any common sense
because our "dear leaders" think they are smarter and can do
a better job…Unfortunatly, they are dead wrong!

Common sense is the application of experience gained through failure of others.

See if this explains this is common sense of the american voter.Obama is a post turtle.Have you ever driven down a country road and saw a turtle on top a fence post?When you do you wonder these things:How did he get there you know he couldn't do him self.Once he got there with his arms and legs going you know he dose not what to do. Then you wonder who are the dumb S.O.B.s that put him there.

Gee, Mark, are you suggesting that they should have 'skin in the game'?

Regarding Obama being a post turtle: positions of Obama's like this and their reversal when Weasel Reid aplogizes for the 'negro dialect' remark may account for why he is on the post.

Obama in '02: 'The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott'

–From the December 12, 2002 issue of the Chicago Defender.

In my opinion the liberals are believers in higher education, most colleges tilt to the left. And they denigrate Limbaugh in that he didnt go to college. The liberals try to paint conservatives as against intellectualism. I think the conservatives are trying to say highly educated Liberals lack "common sense" and the liberals say how can we lack common sense when we have higher education. Its a tricky issue

L – you bring to mind an experience.. new girlfriend was a perpetual student and she told me one of her new classes was 'morals and ethics'. I laughed, she asked why. In the end she could see no substance to the opinion the academics had no business addressing 'morals and ethics', especially in the current atmosphere of our county's institutions. In hindsight, this was the beginning of the end of that mistake :~}

Great David Horowitz videos here…they explain a lot.
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/

Thanks. I was just going to look this up.

Ha Ha, if you're a woman by chance, will you marry me?
Acorn and its affiliates are the tap root of the entire admin and must be dug up and removed and burned to prevennt any possible rerooting. Those who wish Acorn to continue are traitors, criminals and should be dealt with acordingly.
So many in our government are in my estimation warranting a life in a supermax. Some the ultimate penalty.

Hey! I recognize you.

Common Sense. Thine name is not "The Rooney Rule", Interviewing Al Sharpton on all things racist or the bog we call "DC".

You are conflating common sense with Common Sense. The two have nothing in… well, common.

I'm sure President Obama would forgive any of us the occasional lapse in rhetoric. He's just a nice guy.

Now Stan, you are being a little hard on President Washington. He won some and lost some but always persevered And in the end made everything that followed possible.

In response to the recent outbreak of Political Correctness, here's another golden oldie :

“He who dares not offend, cannot be honest.”

~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809)

BEN FRANKLIN WAS SAID TO HAVE COMMON SENSE AND THAT'S WHY HE WAS AN ILLUMINATI MEMBER?

THAT IS SO TRUE!!!

All AMERICA WILL SOON FIND OUT HOW MUSH SO!

YES!!! Common Sense. I'm a little disappointed that there isn't a written piece here to go with this entry. Not only was the pamphlet common sense a game changer when it came to colonial attitudes regarding independence from England, the very story of the printing and distribution of the pamphlet itself is a fantastic tale.

It is said that no one would print the pamphlet for Paine, they were too worried about the their necks. So he had to buy off a printer with portions of the proceeds in order to convince him to even do the print job, after which the pamphlet was reprinted and distributed through ought the civilized world on every continent. It's effect on other revolutions against monarchies including in France where Paine did jail time for his revolutionary attitude is a case study in rhetoric and mass media itself.

I encourage all with a mind that thirsts to go get a copy, it's not expensive and neither is it a difficult or long read. You'll be impressed, Paine was of a stain of genius sorely needed today.

Again why is there no entry? Is that to make us all go read it or what? These writs, pamphlets, letters, et al should be a mainstay of Big Government as a site. Why not link out to the Federalist Society or to somewhere where these documents can be scrutinized if BG isn't going to post the full texts here? I don't mean to be critical but I don't think the blog entry was posted to illicit remarks about common sense not being so common any longer, wake up people.

Since there is no blog entry I will have to make due by quoting from my copy. Since it isn't marked up and I want to be fast I'll quote at random, we'll start from the first page of Chapter III, Thoughts on the Present State of the American Affairs.

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In the following pages I offer nothing more than simple facts, plain arguments, and commons sense; and have no other preliminaries to settle with the reader, than that he will divest himself of prejudice and preposession and suffer his reason and his feelings to determine for themselves; that he will put on, or rather that he will not put off the true character of a man, and generously enlarge his views beyond the present day.

Volumes have been written on the subject of the struggle between England and America. Men of all ranks have embarked in the controversy, from different motives, and with various designs: but all have been inefectual, and the period of debate is closed. Arms, as the last resource, must decide the contest; the appeal was the choice of the king, and the continent hath accepted the challenge.

It has been reported of the late Mr. Pelham (who though an able minister was not without his faults) that on his being attacked in the house of commons, on the score that his measures were only of a temporary kind, replied, "they will last my time". Should a thought so fatal and unmanly possess the colonies in the present contest, the name of ancestors will be remembered by future generations with detestation.

The sun never shone on a cause of greater worth. Tis not the affair of a city, a county, a province, or a kingdom, but of a continent– of at least one eighth part of the habitable globe. Tis not the concern of a day, a year, or an age; posterity are virtually involved in the contest, and will be more or less affected even to the end of time, by the proceedings now. now is the seed-time of continental union, faith and honor. The least fracture now will be like a name engraved with the point of a pin on the tender rind of a young oak; the wound will enlarge with the tree, and posterity read it in full grown characters.

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This stuff should be part of US school curriculum, you see the elevated perspective founders like Paine worked from and then you look at a modern product of public schools and state Uni's and you quite literally have to quell the need to vomit.

WOW!!!

DO YOU GET IT!!!

AND THIS IS FROM A CERTIFIED BEHAVIOR ANALYST!!! Parenting can get it done, can't it?

I GUESS THAT HE NEVER BECAME PRESIDENT, I GUESS LIKE BEN FRANKLIN!!!

THAT'S GREAT REASON! HOPE THAT YOU ARE NOT WRONG!

Vic, if I want to get into the "behavior analyst" business, how do I get certified? Do they offer dental and paid vaca?

It has served us well mikatollah, Separation of Church and State…..that does not however, make it's contemporary and perverse application on the part of certain elements any less profoundly wrongful and distorted and offensive to common sense.

If anyone had anticipated that the non-existent separation clause would be used to browbeat otherwise harmless practitioners of faith the founders would have codified it's meaning for perpetuity with no lack of specificity.

As it stands the separation clause is but a footnote within the Federalist Papers and the logic under which it is applied under the 1st amendment is not merely thin, it's anorexic.

Paine gets little coverage in high school textbooks because of his criticism of organized religion in later works. So students are often surprised when they get to college and find out what they had been missing in high school.

I don't know how you could make that initial statement without including Adams, your angling to make a point re: Organized Religion but I get the impression you can't wait to pervert the facts into some sort of anti religion perspective. Being critical of huge churches is one thing, being one who bashes faith itself is entirely another.

Still, it is the law of the land and will not be changed with congressional legislation.

Christians have played the victim card for so long now it is almost expected of a good Christian to whine about the evil atheists and bureaucrats who deny them their rights to worship. Who's stopping you? Take your kids to your church and gowidgod.

Never been to college Sardius? It depends on your major, but students are exposed to him in the first of two United States history survey course and then history majors will bump into him from time to time depending on their interest. Students of the Revolution or U.S. Constitution will get to read entire books on his writings and do research papers.

Common Sense and the Crisis were written in the colonys ,his infuemce was crucial to the Declaration of
Independance, the Constitution and the conduct of the revolution. Following the War for American Independence, Paine left for England.
Later works were written while in Europe and concerend and interned with other matters.
In 1796, Paine published a "Letter to George Washington," in which he attacked the soldierly reputation and policies of America's hero.
Paine returned to the United States in 1802. He died in New York City in 1809, a lonely, bitter and destitute man. His remains were later taken to England for reburial but were lost.

No offense. It must be nice to get all the free books. I used to buy a lot but I purchased more than I can make time to read, and I like to soak it up and try not to just burn through text wholesale. The consequence is a giant reading backlog. Out of the backlog, Common Sense was an attractively tidy, short and easy read, I was delighted when I saw the thread on my screen and my copy on the desk right next to it and I was all sorts of enthused.

Interested men, who are not to be trusted; weak men who cannot see; prejudiced men who will not see; and a certain set of moderate men, who think better of the European world than it deserves; and this last class by an ill-judged deliberation, will be the cause of more calamities to this continent than all the other three. Thomas Paine in Common Sense

Although there is plenty to post here from Common Sense these sum's up our times as well as his and proves the old saying " Those that fail to learn from History are destine to repeat it " …

Beer Summit II

GET THIS, WE ARE "EVIL" AND SAY SO AND THE REPUBLICANS LIE ABOUT IT, THAT'S WHY!

Thomas Paines' "Common Sense" certainly helped to ignite the firestorm that made the Revolutionary War successful, and for that he deserved a great commendation; however, like with most radicals, his ideas were relevant for a specific task and were not easily applied in a broad-spectrum governance. Thankfully, the founding fathers exploited his prose and rhetoric for the specific task of casting away the tyrannical bonds that tied them and then heeded not his advice on how to form a Republic.

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