Al-Qaeda Terrorist May Be Offered Plea Agreement: Administration Defends Decision
by PubliusJaw-dropping story in today’s Washington Post:
President Obama’s chief counterterrorism adviser on Sunday defended the administration’s decision to try in federal court the man charged with attempting to bomb an airliner on Christmas Day and indicated that he would be offered a plea agreement to persuade him to reveal what he knows about al-Qaeda operations in Yemen.
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the 23-year-old Nigerian charged with the failed attempt on the Amsterdam-to-Detroit flight, was initially “talking to people who detained him” but now has a public defender and “doesn’t have to,” John O. Brennan said on “Fox News Sunday.”
“We have different ways of obtaining information from individuals” in the criminal-justice process, Brennan said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “A lot of people . . . understand what they’re facing, and their lawyers recognize that there is advantage to talking to us in terms of plea agreements, [and] we’re going to pursue that.” Brennan told CNN’s “State of the Union” that other terrorism suspects have “given us very valuable information as they’ve gone through the plea-agreement process.”
Consider this excerpt:
Abdulmutallab’s father “said he was consorting with extremists in Yemen,” Brennan added. “. . . He was concerned about him, he wanted our help. That was one set of data. We had, though, other data within the intelligence system . . . that didn’t give us the clarity we needed to be able to map it and attach it to Abdulmutallab.”
Read the whole article here. Whiskey, tango, foxtrot…they’re going to offer the bomber a plea agreement?? Brennan states that, despite warnings from the bomber’s own father, the Administration didn’t have the “clarity” to determine Mr. Abdulmutallab was a threat. Offering him a plea agreement–through his court-appointed public defender–suggests the Administration won’t achieve “clarity” anytime soon.
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Plea agreement … ah America at it's finest
what does he have to plea on … why isn't he at Gitmo sucking on a water hose by now !!!!!!
Oh that's right .. he "lawyered up" on OUR dime !!!!
For goodness sake! Please stop this madness. Prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. *sigh*
Will he get bail?
Once again this administration decides to bow to extremist organizations and offer American rights and priviledges to terrorists. When is this going to stop? I served 25 years in the military, and when a person alignes with terrorist organizations, commits or attempts to commit terrorists acts, that person is labeled a terrorists (aka enemy combatant) and tried in a military tribunal. Just because he doesn't wear the uniform of a nation doesn't make him an ordinary criminal. Plea deal my a**. When does Obama plan to make a trip to Yemen and apologize for this???
So this is our alternative to Gitmo? Plea deals?
Heaven help us!
No problem. Short trial, sentenced to years in prison, pardoned and released to his rich daddy. No one will find the millions that appear in O'Dumbo's off shore bank account. A bribe to the president is no different than the bribes Peeloshi and Reid are passing around in congress since the Fringe media (former MSM) always turn a blind eye to a democrat criminal.
Just waterboard the prick.
sure he will & a plush hotel room with room service …all on our dime!
He kind of looks like Obama. Maybe a relative? Just "axing"…………………………….
No smoking gun? The would be bomber's physician father outed him to authorities but in a politicized intel spin that doesn't give us a smoking gun. Now we're reduced to plea bargaining for info from an admitted Islamofascist. Gotta hand it to the libs, they continue to confound me at every turn.
imagine if you will, the howls that would come from the fringe media if a conservative president were in charge.. if they took this route, then we would be sacrificing the safety of the country – if we took the Gitmo route, then they would be promoting torture on this poor, misguided boy. face it folks, the lefties are just beyond what can be explained rationally.
As long as he votes Democrat in 2010 [ACORN registration], is there really a problem here? [hehe]
276 counts of attempted murder … and he gets a plea deal. I say execute him.
If rumors of his injuries are accurate, he wouldn't have a need for those 72 virgins anyway.
This is someone who was willing to blow himself up for his cause. WTF would anyone trust ANY info coming from this scumbag? Besides haven't they determined that his father is a proponent of radical Islam as well? Now all terrorists will know there are no consequences for their actions –Obama has given them carte blanche . Typical leftist mindset.
Someone forgot to tell him they are are MALE virgins ….
I'd sure like to know how much the lone "pirate" we caught off Somilia weighs now… I'll bet he has gained 20 pounds !!! Hell, he'll never leave !!!
Uh….., it's an act of war mister President. You'd best get your admnistration out of your assertions that we are not fighting a war on terror. WE are….you aren't.
Can America survive until 2012? I guess we'll have to see….
He'll get off when they discover that his rich daddy contributed to Obama's campaign fund. Better yet, they will probably find out that he is Obama's cousin.
COME ON AMERICA WAKE THE HECK UP!!! WE HAVE A MUSLIM AND/OR MUSLIM SYMPATHIZER IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
And for what? Obama Administration Disappointed by Latest Message from al-Qaeda (click image to enlarge) http://optoons.blogspot.com/2010/01/obama-adminis...
Gotta love our liberal douche bag president. What a dick.
He is black; therefore, no questions may be "axed". Glad to help.
I thought we didn’t negotiate with terrorist???????
That's the problem with stuffing them into the criminal justice pipeline, THEY ARE prosecuting him to the fullest. He should be in gitmo having 'near-drowning' experiences by now.
Brothers …
whiskey tango foxtrot indeed…
But what does one expect from this lot? Plus this whole thing stinks to high heaven. It smells of a 'false flag' operation and the cover up already seems to be well in place. Will we ever know about the 'well dressed man' who got him on the plane, or why his father talked to the CIA?
Something here is rotten in Denmark- or make that Amsterdam…
Is anyone surprised that the muslim-in-chief is taking care of one of his own? Treason, pure and simple.
What a POS we have in our boy Barry!
Well, if this sort of thing persists it won't be long before "plea bargains" are considered torture, since it is clearly a form of psychological manipulation designed to extract information from an otherwise unwilling source…
http://www.IsThisTheChangeWeNeed.com/Webblog
Odds are they will never offer James and Hannah a "plea deal"!
This is surprising, nay, SHOCKING!!! I'm SHOCKED, truly shocked.
I've got a deal for the scum bag, turn him lose near my place with a one hour head start, just to make fun.
Tell you what…..plea bargain him right out of court….absolve him of all charges…and then move him right next door to amoeobammma in chicago. I frankly don't want him walking the streets in my community…..
Didn't you get the memo barbarian? This is "Change" you can believe in!
Now we want to talk to him. Before he boarded the plane we had no interest in a guy that his dad said was a terrorist.
Do we really think this guy has that much information. Sure we can asked him who trained him and he will say it was a guy with a beard named Abdullah. We show him some pictures and he will say it is not one of them. This guy was not an inside man of AQ. He is a spoiled little rich kid that got played by AQ thinking he was being a good muslim. AQ did not use their real names with this rich kid. They did not take him to their secret hiding places in Yemen. They took him to a remote house that he has very little idea where he was, finished off the brainwashing and showed him how to handle PETN undies.
Make him one offer, a cell with Buba or one in Isolation. Talk to us, or talk to Buba.
Any information that this guy had (which will be slim at best) will become irrelevant in short order, like about 24 hours after he failed.
They will plead this guy out, he will give them nothing of value, and AQ will be laughing it's asses off telling its suicide recruits that worst cast they get 3 squares and a bed, probably more then thay have now.
Pathetic…
Word is obama is going to meet with him and have a beer.
In return for doing this the guy will get a green card, free medical and food stamps.
yes I got that memo forced down my throat.. I guess they hope the terrorists are comfortable as they send them home to yemen.
Will AG Holder offer to represent this guy, pro-bono? Probably not, but I'm sure his law firm will offer up their services.
Obama is a Jihadist sympathizer…haven't we all figured that out yet. So is Eric Holder. Judge him by his ACTIONS, not his words.
I got a better idea. Start yanking his F-ing nails out until he talks! Burn a hole in his ass with a cigarette, beat him with a stick or use an electrical prod…I don't care.
The last, and I mean the VERY last thing this asswipe should be offered is a plea agreement, unless it's to determine how he wants to be put to death.
…and when we're done with him, let's do the skinny guy in the WH next.
Isn't obvious. This knickerbomber is one Obama's "Sons of Alla" brothers. To understand Obama understand Islam. Christain my a$$. Born Muslim, Muslim for life. No different than a Chicago gang member. If you don't believe me Google it and get educated. We, America, are being surrendered one day at a time. Interpol, find the story on BigGovernment, don't we have our own laws and protections. Coppenhagen, give me a break. God help us.
That's what I meant.
"Poor guy. He's just a victim of American Imperialism. He didn't know what he was doing. He deserves another chance."–some idiot liberal.
What we need for Terrorists caught in the act like this is a gallows, give the man a week to say goodby to his family and make peace with his God, and hang the bastards!
Wake up people…. this admin, congress the media backing them and the special interest groups behind them do not care about you. You are nothing to them… they have as Pat Cadell has said "nothing but contempt" for you. Time to wake up and take the red pill folks!
An idea, a symbol to get behind
How are those emails, phone calls, faxes and protests working out for you America? They aren't! Your playing their game… STOP and play your game through Saving the Republic
Our government has become schizophrantic. God help us all.
Another perspective: A group of people determine their intent to attack America and follow through with it. Their attack kills and injures many. This group of people draws the attention of the US government and war is waged against them, in response to this attack.
Does the clothes warn by those who attacked the US matter?
Dec 7, 1941 Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese and the US entered WWII.
Sept 11, 2001 Al-Queda attacked mainland US. We fought them for a while, now they are labeled as ordinary criminals and are able to take a lawyer and arrange plea deals.
What's the difference???
How much more crap are we willing to take from this bunch of losers? Start the drumbeat of defiance and let loose the dogs. It's time to settle this.
In the aggregate there must be millions of similar "comments" on these reports, all posted to be read by people of like mind, thus preaching to the choir.
These should, instead, be deluging our the print press, the Congress and, yes, the WH to have some possible effect.
Such a waste.
Well…understandable isn't it??__1) Muslims don't kill their co-muslims (haaaa ha ha!!!) that's funny..__2) Libs don't execute in the gas chambers/injection chambers- they do it in congress and to society at large, on a species called 'Conservatives'__3) look at that face! How can a prez execute that?? awww…____(PUKE!!!)
JCH–
>>>…axing<<<<
R-A-C-I-S-T!
Sad, but true. This guy was an utter tool for the jihadis. Unfortunately, boarding him with Bubba probably isn't the best idea.
From Wikipedia:
"J. Michael Waller [...] claims that 80% of the prisoners who "find faith" while in prison convert to Islam. These converted inmates are mostly African American, with a small but growing Hispanic minority."
I hope that wasn't raaccciiiissstt.
nceeno–
as far as punishment– why can't we reconstruct the bomb, enough to maim not to kill, strap it where it belonged, and dial the cell phone #???? EASY!
I don't think that would be a deterrent to them. Might even sweeten the pot a bit.
Where did you read or hear that his father is a "proponent of radical Islam?" It was his father who tried to warn people that this guy was dangerous.
Why do we insist on giving these freaks rights as if they were legitimate humans. When they kill women and children, bomb schools, and blow up planes they forfeit any and all human rights they may have had. This terrorist should be tortured to gain any information he may posses then shot in the head and mailed back to crapistan or whoever is paying him and his ilk.
The only "plea" deal to give this Bastard is "you wanna die fast or slow and painful?"
Damm Andrew why didn't I think of that? Certainly the Constitution is being violated. Not knowing whether or not or when something bad is going to happen just isnt right. Why our intire judicial system is suspect. Imagine being the poor perpertrator awaiting trial not knowing if you will go to jail or be set free. It is just not fair. We should just do summary execution, that would be fair, no one would have to worry what would happen. surely this would be the DEMOCRATIC way. Change we can beleive in Viva La Revolution.
His daddy turned his name in to the authorities. Do you even read or listen to the news?
Well, since 'enhanced interrogations' are so passe now, this should be expected.
"We'll give you a lighter sentence for snitching on your foreign-born terrorist counterparts…"
Although, as someone suggested when sending this post, perhaps having an Interpol agent waterboard Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab would be better.
How about we strap ten little explosives to each of his digits and set them off one at a time. By the time this little piggy had roast-beef we will have our answers.
I'm pretty certain that we have the assets paid for and in place to find out what this swine loving, muslim knows. It is called waterboading and its free.
I don't know about him being The Won's cousin, but I'll agree to the possibility that Daddy-O contributed a nice sum of cash to Obumble's presidential campaign. I think it's possible that's why PantyBoy was escorted thru and onto the plane and the video isn't available. Now he's getting a plea deal.
Wonder what The Won and his sidekick, Tonto Holder, have in mind for KSM?
The Cowboy didn't negotiate. President Hopey Changey is extending a hand even though the terrorists aren't unclenching their fists. They know he's a pushover.
He should have been Jack-Bauered as soon as they could get him off the plane and behind closed doors.
Better still, John-Clarked on the plane.
Will his Al Qaeda financiers will be footing the bill for his counsel or will it be Joe Taxpayer? Perhaps some ACLU weasel will pick him up pro bono?
heh..heh..heh… Or send him to us in Florida… We know how to take care of gatorbait… WIth no trails….
You mean the liberal state run news channels…no I don't waste my time watching those plus I was being sarcastic, so RELAX!!
MaoBama = the "Christian" who celebrates Ramadan, but not Christmas. Sure.
I imagine it must really suck to be the fringe media these days. Obama and his peeps are doing the most outragous and if they weren't so serious– laughable things and the media has to defend them. No matter how stupid and incompetent they look in the process. And they must know they look really stupid making all these excuses for Obama and his losers.
Let me get this right. The same people who applause the killing of unborn babies now want to give RIGHTS to a terrorist who strived to kill innocent Americans. Wait ! It FITS ! If had succeeded he would be a LIBERAL hero ! I know.. I know..it does not follow sylogistic logic but then…when do LIBERALS ever follow logic and common sense.
Okay…now logic. The methods were in place to extract critical data with CIA and FBI personnel. The results would have been most helpful in terrorist attack prevention. Instead the ObamaPOS allowed him to be tried as a criminal and getting lawyered up. So any negotiations with this scum will be at the compromise of American security…meaning less information but more rights. Less information means more likelihood of American death. Fundamental muslim sympathy.
Perhaps the wisdom of king Solomon could be used, we get half and you get half.
Works for me…
sweet so now i can attempt to blow up a plane and get a plea bargain do a 5 year bid write a couple kids book and a progressves hand book get paroled and get into the white house its just that easy now…well at least liberals make it that easy…
the right way to handle this would be to no civil trial take him out back torture him til he starts talkin and execute him and get the lawyer for treason whats so hard about doing that to a enemy of our nation
Obama is a muslim terrorist himself.
A homicide bomber attempts to kill everyone around him as an active member /operative of a terrorist nation called AlQaeda, who have actively declared war on us. That's an enemy combatant. That doesn't change when he crosses the border or occupies a seat on a US plane with a US visa. Not suddenly a criminal. Still an enemy combatant. No lawyer, no deal, no rights.
Is there a case yet for treason by this administration? Giving aid and comfort to the enemy? Refusal to defend the nation against all enemies foreign or domestic? A demonstrated unwillingness to recognize an enemy once they have entered our nation and committed a war crime? Prosecute who???
[...] investigating this. I wonder if they will give the guilty person a please agreement like this guy? Al-Qaeda Terrorist May Be Offered Plea Agreement: Administration Defends Decision – Big Government The man tries to blow up 300 of us.. after Osama Bin Laden has declared war on us.. 9 years ago, [...]
What is wrong with our government? Giving a plea to a terrorist who wanted to kill hundreds of people on a plane and at the airport.
The only plea should come from this POS when he begs us to stop waterboarding him. This country needs to stop with the pussified metrosexualization and start stomping some heads.
So they took the terrorist who WAS talking, turned him over to a lawyer who promptly shut him up, and are now willing to trade away national security so we can get him TALKING AGAIN!?! Beyond the simple fact that the info would have been far more vital when it was timely, why give away an item only to buy it back at a high price? That makes absolutely no sense. These are not criminals. These are enemy combatants in an ongoing war. They are only to be afforded the most basic of human rights. No lawyers, no plea bargains, no freedom. Interrogate the evil bastard until he spills his guts then lock him away in a dark dank cell until we've won the war.
Nikki,
Maybe because it is not "our government" any more.
Plea agreement??? The administration obviously does not grasp the concept of "Martydom". They cannot offer him anything in this life to roll over on the cause, when he was going to take his life for the cause. We cannot trust this administration to protect us when they cannot understand the threat facing us! Ask nicely, maybe he will tell you if you say please and I'm sorry….what bunk!
Isn't this administration just completely intelligent? Who would have thought of a plea deal?
If it works in this case; take it to the criminals we are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan too.
A plea bargain? Probably agree to 100 hrs community service. No prior record, first offense and no one got hurt. Oh wait a minute wasn't this poor guy attacked by that Dutch guy? Dutch should be arrested immediatly and charged under the hate crime statute. After all this is white on black crime.there is precedent for this. We are trying Navy Seals for giving that terriorist a fat lip while capturing him.
What a totally F—ed up buch pathetic losers we have in Washington. Be afraid america, very afraid.
This terrorist was only in yemen twice. How much info does the adminsitration thinks he has in that brainwashed skull of his? He was only a puppet doing his job. He probably has no knowledge of anything outside of the type of underwear he was supposed to wear. This adminsitration is pathetic!!!! Plea dealing..omg..what a bunch of morons run this country.
He's just an ordinary criminal trying to blow up a planeload of people. Is that a problem?
Barack OBAMA said, in his Cairo speech: "I know, too that Islam has always been a part of America's story."
What an idiotic thing to say. The only part Islam has played in America's story is they have tried repeatedly to destoy this country with their terrorist actions. THAT'S THE STORY!!
Remember? We are the terrorists: the patriots who demonstrated at the tea parties.
So, Obama / Holder provided the captured errorist with leverage with which to bargain with us about preventing another mass murder. And any information obtained this way will be stale and useless after negotiating delays.
Who is Obama / Holder looking out for here? They are more concerned with terrorist rights to enjoy constitutional rights of US citizens than US citizens' rights not to get slaughtered by terrorists. Is there some other way to interpret this?
Why the sam hill are we offering this filth ANYTHING in exchange for whatever information he has, which we could and should easily torture out of him?
Sorry, ACLU: human rights are for human beings.
Please allow this fine young man to be returned to Yemen where he can undergo 6 months of art therapy and can then be released where he can go out to recruit fellow artists to engaged in future "in-flight" artistic work. You are a swell guy Mr. Obama.
The democrats are a party of lawers. They think the criminal justice system works for all events at all times.
This young man is an inteligence aset in the war on terror. But the Democrats think he is inocent until proven guilty. If the next ass bomber kills 200 people Obama will have hell to pay. This is war not criminal activity.
Unfortunately this administration just might believe it.
[...] Big Government – Al-Qaeda Terrorist May Be Offered Plea Agreement: Administration Defends Decision [...]
Obama is a fool. America is now a nation of fools, after all the people put this idiot in office. The TSA and Homeland Security are run by fools. Perhaps the FBI, CIA, and NSA are still run by real men. The JCS are yes men, as is the Sec Def. I have little hope my government can keep us safe. We must throw Obama out and fight the muslim terrorists in an all out death hunt. Kill them on the spot. Waterboard them. This must be a fight like no other-as it will be a hundred year war, possibly longer. WE need warriors running our government, not liberal mommys boy marxists. The internment camps should be used for the commie liberals that have weakened our nation, and the traitors in congress.
Very well stated…..
Cheney for President 2012! His "Plea Agreement" would involve plea-ing for mercy while Cheney cranks the vice his nuts are in.
The kooks in the White House and Justice Departments are not bowing to extremist organizations they ARE T
The Administration and the Justice Dept. are not bowing to extremists, they ARE the extremists. They are not defending and protecting our Constitution; they don't care about the Constitution! Obama should make a trip to Yemen and STAY THERE!
I can see it now: Barry O's terrorist bail bonds.
Who said government doesn't create new industry?
Would his brethren give any one of us a week to say goodbye to our families? No, they woudl put us on our knees and saw our heads off on camera and Al Jazeera would put it up on prime time for these freaks to chant "Allah Akbar" to. He was caught in the Mother effin act, he should have been pulled off that plane and executed right there. But no, now he will get a sweet deal to tell us where Osama was 6 months ago and get shipped back to Yemen or Nigeria a hero (remember the Lockerbie bomber?). That is not justice. No more nicey nice. Kill them where we find them, its what they would do to us.
We should have executed him the moment he stepped off the plane. Then fly to Yermen and do the whole family as well. No need to have any addittional martyrs hanging around. This is all these scumbags know. If they know unequivically that their actions will result in a death sentence of the whole family then this behavior will end. Heck, make it a no-win scenario. If the Jihadist hold their family hostage, we do the same. Your screwed if you do, your screwed if you don't. Sooner or later the jihadists family will become the victims…and therein endeth the problem. Now THAT is a solution.
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