Sunday Open Thread: Muhammed Edition
by PubliusThere are, within our midst, religious believers who are, it seems, so insecure in their faith that they must threaten–and try–to kill cartoonists. (Really?? Cartoonists?) Unfortunately, most of the Western Media have cowered to these threats. We now reprint the cartoon that sparked the threats and attacks:
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Islam is lower than a gutter religion — it is a sewer religion.
The Koran is a mish-mash of bad writing, pretending to be the Old and New Testaments, but greatly falling short in literary value.
Muslims worldwide have been duped by this satanic religion. To save the world, we need Jesus to come and wash Islam from the face of the earth.
When have CHRISTIANS ever killed a cartoonist or a writer? When have CHRISTIANS ever threatened to kill anyone who ridiculed their CHRISTIAN faith? Never.
Islam's Sharia law allows for sex with children and animals as well as the subjectation of women. It's time to play hardball wiyh these fools.
Thank you for posting this. I have always found the media to be cowards when it comes to Islam.
Islam is a religion of peace and if you don't agree I will kill you.
If Muslims really want to get along in a Pluralistic Democratic Society that protects free speech they will need to develop a thicker skin. No one is going to walk on egg shells for them for long.
Careful when posting you could be taking your life into your own hands.
I'm sure the "good Muslims" will stand up for tolerance.
You know that guy the one that comes out after an attack you see him all the time…………………….
Well done, BigGov't.com!
Proof positive that Islam is not a 'religion' but a cult…There are no 'good Muslims' …their cult demands that they kill all people who do not believe the same garbage that has been drilled into their empty heads since childhood…I can think of NO religion that instills into their children, the 'right 'to kill anyone they think is an infidel ….including people in their own family! NEVER, in the past 200 + years, in America, has ANY religion killed other people (like the show NCIS, would have you believe!) for changing religions…if that were the case, there would be no one left in the USA, as people are constantly looking for a 'better belief system'…
I keep a copy of the Koran in my bathroom in the event I run out of toilet paper. The pages do an excellent cleaning job and they flush beautifully!
Muslims have been successful at getting media and liberal politicians to submit. We need to be more diligent.
I have been curious to see what a deadly cartoon looks like. I figured it must be so detestable and grotesque that to look at it would scar me for life. In fact… it is not. Imagine this cartoon displayed next to "Piss Christ" or any of the painting displayed during the first ever International Blasphemy Day: http://www.religionnews.com/index.php?/rnstext/ne...
Which do you find more abhorrent?
Many artists pride themselves on their edginess and willingness to offend-yet, they have limits they won't cross. And why won't they cross them? Because their fear outweighs their belief in free speech. Instead, they go for the "safe" approach by mocking Christians and Mormons… It's safe to say that no harm will come to them by ridiculing a Jehovah Witness- yet, they will not take the noble road and use their art to shed light on THE religion who's radical (I acknowledge their are peaceful followers of Islam) followers define the modern meaning of terrorism- holding many nations of the Word in their grip of fear. Instead, they turn their malice towards religions that contribute countless hours and dollars to aiding the poor around the world…
Hypocrites…
It took a cartoonist to be brave enough to walk into the fire for Free Speech!
Political correctness is killing us. Muslims should be treated the same way that everyone else is. If they do not like it, then do not join the rest of the world. No other "religion" has special privileges in society so as not to offend members.
And, might I simply add, I will not submit.
Islam is the second most dangerous religion in the world today.
The most dangerous is Global Warming.
I must warn you, it is forbidden to make an image of the holy prophet lest one fall into idolatry. I can feel myself starting to slip already. But the drawing looks more like Captain Crunch to me than Muhammad.
Publius, you nailed it regarding Muslims being "insecure in their faith". People who genuinely believe do not need violence to prove their arguments.
When I was a young man I set out on a search for God. This was not a leisurely task, it was of necessity due to horrific personal circumstances. I gravitated toward the Eastern religions, studied and practiced them, and loved them. Then I decided to read the Koran; after all, "we worship the same God", this will be another source of wisdom. I got about fifty pages into it, reading about the virginal "houris" in paradise, etc., and concluded that this book and its author were totally full of it.
Finally, I was introduced to the Bible. I started at page one. Revealing my sin nature to me nearly destroyed me, but it prepared me to receive my Saviour. His name is Jesus, and there can be no other.
What is this great evil that is washing over the world? That men in the name of God act like animals and become worse than beasts? The West has been given much, and much will be required of it. It is time for us to stand and proclaim the truth against the darkness. Our great error has been in covering over the truth about Islam. It is no religion of peace, but subjection. We wanted to believe it was of peace, because doing so facilitated continuing our self-absorbed, licentious lifestyles. Thus, the Left has been acting insidiously as Islam's Fifth Column.
This is a battle that must be fought on many fronts, but the most essential is the spiritual. The West must return to its roots. Our democratic republic is none other than a crystalization of the Judeo-Christian ethic. Unless our institutions conform to the Bible's revealed paradoxical nature of man – the crown of creation worthy of dignity because he is made in God's image, but a sinner in need of salvation who is not worthy of absolute trust – we will lack the power to stand, and our enemies will overrun us. This is exactly where we are failing.
We must return to the Lord, as individuals and then as a nation. There we will find mercy and strength. There is no salvation in princes, as we are dramatically seeing these days. Indeed, the princes are the problem. But we have been offered a way out:
if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land. – 2Chr 7:14
I pray it is not too late. May God bless.
Sorry, but Christians can be as bad as the Muslims except without the beheading. "Convert to Christianity or Suffer in the eternal fires of Hell"… I don't think so. Aum Namaha Shivaya.
allah be praised for the shapeliness of your goats buttocks.
Oh No! Big Government will now have a Fatwa against it!!! Oh the misery…
There are too many "men" in this country and around the world who would rather NOT have a Fatwa against them rather than stand up for their principles–but not Big Government! Love it.
I have to give credit to the Dannes
“The suspect's name was not released in line with Danish privacy rules.”
News Article Link
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581746,00.htm...
I would like to see all news agencies not use the name of any terrorist or any kind of killer or rapist. I don’t want these people to get any kind of name recognition.
I don’t care about the name of the terrorist who tried to blow up the airplane on Christmas day only about the hero’s that tried to stop him. Maybe even one day it might lead to the Muslim religion doing more than lip service in condemning these freaks.
Cutting someone's head off or blowing up a group of tourists is NOT EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE as merely threatening someone with eternal damnation…so, no, not as bad.
SWEEEEEEET!!!
first I would like to correct one mistake, mainstream muslims commit or support acts of terror, it is the one or two if that many who speak out against terror that are radical. second if CHRISTIANS followed the same sort of rules the muslims go by there would be a daily bloodbath in this country. a day doesnt go by that someone doesnt say or do something offensive to CHRISTIANS. muslims need to grow up they also need a real diety to worship i find the massive oak tree in my back yard to be a far superior god to allah, if you worship the false you should choose something close.
Amen Paul1149, Stay in the Word (Bible) and Keep praying for this Country. For God's Glory. Lets make a difference, with humility in 2010
I pray that all barbarians throughout the world will seek Jesus Christ and find Him.
The Koran is antithetical to the constitution; it is impossible to be faithful to both. For this reason Islam should be banned in America, and yet we have the Ayatollah Obama as our President.
http://thereligionofpeace.com/
The cartoon above sums up muslims and islam perfectly.
I would love a T-shirt of this cartoon
Amen! It couldn't be said better, but our muslim president sides with them, as does the media
Personally, I favor the head of lettuce……Oh come lettuce worship.
in fact jews christians and muslims pray to the same god the prophets set them apart dont speak from ignorance or fantasy
Um. Yeah. Speaking as someone whose been on receiving end of the finger-wagging eternal damnation riff a few times, and also speaking as someone who still has a head, I can say with a high degree of certainty which one is preferable.
I would like one that says "Infidel"
.the intolerance is thick in this thread it seems most of you feel the same away about muslims as the radical muslims feel about you and your mad about it. its ok to be intolerant if thats what you want but dont then complain about someone elses intolerance. i for one dont understand muslim intolerance and im finding i understand yours even less
Never? – I'm a believer, but am also aware that history is longer than just my lifetime. I'm not saying Christianity condones some of it's atrocious historical behavior, but it has happened. Never does not apply. –Also, I've seen some 'end-times' discussions by the knowledgable that were all about Islam and Christianity being the evil and the good of 'end times'. Each side believing the other side is the evil.
….."No other "religion" has special privileges in society so as not to offend members. "
Wrong
The Religion of Obama and the Religion of ManMade Global Warming have very Special privileges.
Sand monkeys with a low IQ think they get women after they die, that proves their nuts.
……"Oh No! Big Government will now have a Fatwa against it!!! Oh the misery… "
And everyone who post and or read the blog
Obama and the NSA will make sure the radical muslims can track everones IP address and location
Our own radical muslim in chief hates us like the taliban does
I look at this as an entrepreneur, and I must say. if i could get the TM or patent for this new hat headgear for Islamic extremists…..I would gladly get them mass produced and would love to sell them to a million muslims around the globe….for a profit of course……match included.
Dont claim your religion is one of peace then try so many different ways to kill the innocent. blow up busses airliners pizza parlors shoot unguided rockets at cities and towns. did i mention honor killings you know when your daughter becomes to westernized so you have to kill her to protect your honor and standing in the community. how about explosive vests for children. if the muslims want to opperate under that bad of a double standard they should be prepared for the mockery and ridicule. btw . i must not be too intollerant for i pray that they have their eyes opened to the truth find JESUS and turn to HIM, of course this could lead to them being killed by some peaceful tollerant muslim.
The collegial blathering in Barry’s administration is one moral equivalence argument that will get Americans killed, the above cartoon portrays Islamo-Fascist as they are barbarian killers. Turn your back on crazy at your own peril (you and I), it’s going to be a long, dangerous, three years.
Barbarian savages under the proection of a religion. Mysogynist sociopaths allowed complete freedom in this country and granted more civil liberites than American citizens.
Wives after death….
That is my definition of He!!
This is a huge point. Islam IS NOT compatible to our Constitution. The quandry is, you can't have freedom of religion and ban Islam. So, we must depend on Christians to show people of Islam that Christian values are more holy and worthy for those people to have compatible beliefs with our Constitution. — But WAIT – we've spent the past few decades trying to outlaw Christians… just before we needed them the most.
Great the cartoon, hilarious! LMAO! Go USA!
ONce you've seen an angry person out to "get somebody", you've pretty much seen them all. They'll use whatever religion is handy to help them in their dirty work.
sorry but you obviously dont have a clue if you did you would not post something so etterly stupid.
crash your a fool you dont know a thing about your own religon. i happen to be a real christian and i know the history. if i was a muslim and had to listen to you it might drive me to hate all christians as well. your speaking from ignorance and that seems to be alright with you. wallow in its emptiness.
Let's see, God of Christianity is Triune (Jesus is God. Jews and and Muslims deny this. Right or wrong, both can't be right. That said, there is only ONE God
crash jesus doesnt need people like you your intolerant and an abmoniation to the religion in fact you are a chritian variant to muslim radicals. by the way i am a christian and obviuosly know my faith a bit better than you. i could point out that terrorist attacks kill alot more muslims than christians every year but im afraid that will go over your head. your intolerant and you must feel at home on this thread. you dont see your own hypocrisy and its just plain sad. dont use jesus name to aspouse your hatred and intolerance its sickining.
Muslims have been killing each other for a millenium because some pray to Allah the wrong way.
LOL! My Jewish ex-significant other used to say "I'd rather have someone try to convert me than rob me!"
Joel Rosenberg is a very informative and accurate source to learn about this war between Islam and Christianity. He addresses thoroughly the 12th Imam beliefs of Iran and others, and their having been following through on these beliefs in order to expedite the end-times conflict. If you have interest in understanding the commitment of 12th Imam Islam and the dangers it presents to not only us but the whole worldl, you will find Joel Rosenberg's work captivating. 12th Imam Islam basically is the anti-christ of end-times in these studies. You should look into it to better understand.
do you even know what triune means? or are you just throwing a word out? and no i do not beleive jesus was god he was the son of god i do not pray to jesus i pray to god do you have any idea how fractcious the christian religion is? yes jesus followed the same god as the jews and yes mohamed is another profit in line with the jews as was jesus. the profits differ not the god. grow up and take a religion class befor you start spouting about your own religion your obviously in the dark
The author of this short fine piece hit the nail on the head when he noted that the muslims must VERY insecure about their "religion" to have to react this way to any affront. Good Lord, if Christians responded this way to every slight, there would be an absolute bloodbath. The muslims respond to one thing and one thing only….a boot up their ass.
The rebirth of nation is in our hands. This new American revolution armed with the internet and formats like this can pull our country back from the brink of being a Banana republic and transform it into a nation built on real representation. The people in military uniform did not put their life and bodies on the line to come home to have their voice stolen by government party members to fill their pockets. The party system must cease to exist for our country to become once again the beacon of freedom and success. The promise of America is on the line and it is your choice to let die or give it new life by destroying the party system. Demand real representation, now is the time before district are drawn up to look like road kill again to kill the promise of America. Demand country before party before there is no country left.
It doesn't take a great parsing of words to reason that anticontitutional is the same as unconstitutional.
There is ignorance…and then there is troll ignorance.
Good point Turk.
""I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords,"
Kent Brockman, The Simpsons*
*a cartoon abhorrent to Islam.
They face Mecca backward.
yes, agreed. My intent was to be in agreement, but if you're saying we must ban a religion then we are not. We can't and still honor the Constitution – which may be a dead point anymore. but we can inforce our Constitutional laws concerning actions – just the belief is not something I wish to give authority to regulate.
Wait, how can Muslims be offended by a representation of Mohammered when no one knows what the pedophile looked like?
LOL!
You are a Captain Crunchopobic bigot!
And that makes you OK in my book.
Does this Fatwa make me look fat?
yes GOD THE FATHER GOD THE SO and GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT JESUS said why call me lord lord and do not the thigs I say . HE told the pharises ye are of your fathe the devil. so I would suggest that you do what his word says and study to show thyself approved a workman need not be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth.btw I will pray for you that your eyes might be opened to the truth before it is too late
Part I
If the cartoon had depicted the face of Osama Bib Laden I would not flinch, but it intended to depict the face of Mohamed.
While I believe in freedom of the Press, I recognize that unfortunately the cartoon equally offends the Islamo-nazis and the Muslims who wish to peacefully coexist with the rest of us.
I think that the Cartoon was not right, period!
The reason why you probably do not feel that way, the reason why you do not feel ‘the sting’, is because we in America have gotten used to seeing a lot of wrong things being done in the name of ‘Freedom of the Press’ or ‘Art’. We have developed a callous in our conscience, we are now insensitive, and we think it is ‘no big deal’ to offend people of other religions.
And deodarant.
Part II
Look at us: We have gotten used to seeing the most selfish, egotistic and immoral elements in our Society (Hollywood and the Democrats of today) aim their attacks against good moral people.
Christians, and specially Catholics, have been at the receiving end of those who write the TV and Movie scripts. They have presented them as intolerant hypocrites at best. Movies or sitcoms have come out of the way to insult the name of Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, the Pope, the Bishops, our Priests and Nuns, and the regular Catholic folks.
We take these every day and we do not protest. And just because WE have decided to look the other way WE expect other to do the same?
I am sorry I do not think the Cartoon was a good idea.
We have to learn to use our brains, else we may end up blinded by ideologies. I am sure you do not wish to be like our Affirmative Action President.
you are correct you do know 'your faith' better than i do.
when words are no longer spoken this country will fall and the people who support the party system will be to blame.
My intolerance will never come with a death threat… would you seriously have us be tolerant of terrorists who wield axes and knives because someone drew a cartoon of their prophet? How about we shake hands with the shoe bomber and the chemical underwear terrorists. We'll tell them that we understand their religious angst and try to be more tolerant of their terror tactics.
You need to read your history. Or just watch Mel Brook's "The History of the World". The inquisition. The Catholic church burning heritics. Luther being burned alive. The Crusades themselves. Fought against Islam for the clensing of the Holyland. More recently, the Irish Catolic/Protestant wars. Christianity is a religion born of blood and suffering. Just like Communism, Fascism and Democracy. Underarock was right, history is alot longer than your pathetic memory. "Never" is a long time. More men have died for their God than have ever died for their country. Prepare for war.
"We have to learn to use our brains, else we may end up blinded by ideologies. I am sure you do not wish to be like our Affirmative Action President."
AMEN!
However, I believe most of the uproar around here was the response to the offensive cartoon – attempted murder.
just don't be so considerate, thoughtful and understanding that you won't punch back. there is evil, it exists and has no respect your beliefs. will you take evil's punches until they kill you in the name of tolerence and intelligence? or will you finally punch back?
If hitler had realized the power of religion and used it like the Islamofascits do – we'd be speaking german right now. We had better get Machiavellian on these people rapidly.
The difference, in my opinion, is that Christianity grew up and STOPPED doing those things. The followers of islam<no I will NOT capitalize it!!> refuse to move past the 4th century.
Hahahhahahahha A VERY elusive truth ! (hope my wife does NOT see this post)
Didnt we win the Koran war in the 50's?
Could Kevin Jenings (Obama's pedophile "safe schools czar) REALLY be Allah ? He is an 'iron fisted" pedophile.
Let them. I have plenty of fight in me to defend MY home and family!! I can assure you not ONE will make it past my doorstep….
At least christians don't throw poop.
Have a little sympathy!
Islam's going through a spiritual crisis!
THE NORTHWEST BOMBER'S THEOLOGICAL DILEMMA: BEANS WENT TO PARADISE, FRANK TO HELL
http://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/the-n...
How many millions of people have been killed because of religion? Hundreds? And many of those millions have been killed in the name of Christianity as referenced above. Don't get all high and mighty about the peace and love of Christianity.
Is islam any better? Certainly not – they have been nothing but heathens for almost 1500 years. Islam is not a religion of piece but one built on war and domination since its inception. The only thing the radical islamists understand is death and we should be happy to provide their enlightenment.
Sorry to hear that. Your arrogance is showing – it is no more acceptable to desecrate a Koran than it is to desecrate a Bible or a Torah.
Don't you mean pieces?
Islam is pure evil. If there is a Satan….this is one of his tools on Earth.
U.F.O.
Islam is not a religion, it is a method for societal organization. A key feature being that the mullah, interprets what god has commanded and tells the people to do it or else… literally. Religiously this is no different from an American dust bowl tent meeting where the "prophet" tells listeners what God really meant when he said "…". Socially it is a perfect recipe for tyranny: here's the rules, disobey and burn in hell. (and yes, my logic would apply to the medieval Roman church as well).
By definition religion is a matter of faith whereby people created by God with His spirit CHOOSE to follow. Even the scriptures acknowledge that many will not make that choice but it certainly makes no provision for punishment, etc. That is left to the Creator.
The founders understood this fact all too well. People make choices, when they are free they tend to make better ones. If you were born into a society where sharia is the law you do not make faith based religious choices.
__ ____The hidden agenda of Islam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMQneyuPSM__
__ ____The hidden agenda of Islam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMQneyuPSM__
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=11203#comments
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/12/025...
Actual account:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/flight297...
I agree, the moderate islamic will stand by without lifting a finger against the radical to stop the slaughter of "infidels", then praise aliah for making them supreme as they enjoy the fruits of satan!
If Islam is so wonderful, why do they have to kill us to persuade us? I must be missing something.
Home grown right here:
http://www.tawfikhamid.com/
Al Qaeda's manual shows that it is the supreme religion and everyone else should die:
http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/
My son wrote a song about just that! Go to http://www.myspace.com/blistur and listen to 'Religion of Sin'…Great!
I don't for the life of me, understand WHY America cannot do the SAME THING!!!
At least this cartoon on BG did not get covered-over like the religious symbols at George Mason University did when The Chosen One spoke there a few months ago……….thank you BG for showing this cartoon……it accurately mocks the mockery of a religion Islam represents.
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