Tuesday Open Thread: Ireland Edition
by PubliusToday, in 1937, the Irish Free State adopted a new constitution and evolved into a new nation, Ireland.

Today, in 1937, the Irish Free State adopted a new constitution and evolved into a new nation, Ireland.

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Posted Dec 29th 2009 at 3:36 am in Open Threads |
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I am calling to all of you freedom-loving Americans to come once again to Washington D.C. to gather on the Capitol steps on Saturday, at 12 o’clock noon. We must come by the thousands. Speaker Pelosi will stop at nothing to fulfill her corrupt conquests. She will...





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How long will it be before one of our states evolve into a new nation?
I hear D.C. is the new western Mecca
ThinkRight – sorry, but I believe that the Union our dear President Lincoln died for should not be severed.
Therefore, I counterpropose that the ordinary Americans go to war with the douchebags and run them the f**k out of here. We can send them to places where they will feel right at home, i.e. Canada (worker's paradise for free health care) or Mexico (home of the oppressed pot grower).
And I propose that the person who leads this charge should have his or her face added to Rushmore.
And may God ever bless Ireland.
I support that! We can use the same White House after it is purged of liberal ghosts!
Send a few to Haiti too! They need health care bad!
Humm, think I remember my dad telling me that he had a drop or two of Irish blood! When Amerika turns socialist maybe they will welcome me there!
No. That would be Dearborn, Michigan.
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Van Morrison and wife welcome their baby boy
LOS ANGELES (AP) – A new Van Morrison has been born.
The Irish singer says on his Web site that he and his wife, GiGi, welcomed their son, George Ivan Morrison III, on Monday.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CSUPCG0...
It is interesting, throughout human history, peoples have fought and died for freedom. Once grasping it, and having a taste of, people grow complacent over the course of subsequent generations. They fail to grasp the concept that for freedom to live, it must be nurtured, protected. Whwn priorities change, and freedom is no longer a central, burning issues or desire, the rats and cockroaches crawl out of the corners and crevices, to take freedom away. WE, are on the verge of loosing ours.
For the open thread, there is some interesting news this morning pertaining to the semi exploding Nigerian that tried to blow up the airliner on Christmas Day.
Barrack Hussein Obama is not keeping US safe. He has failed to protect US, and uphold his vows, to protect the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. The FBI is failing US also. The ship of State is aimlessly adrift in stormy seas. If Obama had any honour, he would resign.
Hey you teabagger
Quit spewing those racist,homophobic ,islamophobic lies
You need to get with the program and help the Democrats take control of every aspect of every Americans life the way it should be.
I bet you voted for that war monger McCain
Now go help organize your community
/sarc
1119 days left in Obama term. Just thought you'd like to know.
Read the above you Racist !
/sarc
Awww whose counting
The ":One" will pull a Chavez and install himself for life
I reckon I should just shut, like the rest of the sheeple, and toe the company line………..
THIS IS HILARIOUS!
The two goobers that aided the Nigerian terrorist, were released from Gitmo in 2007, after having gone through an intensive "art rehabilitation" programme, complete with crayons and watercolors. Am I hearing this news right? This is OUR tax dollars at work, to rehabilitate these mutts with art.
WTF!
WTF!????????????
Now ABC has exclusive photos of the Underwear Bomb. Talk about a crotch rocket………
2010, 35 states seceed from the federal islamic government led by Caliph Bur'aq al Obummer. They take the name The United States of America after Bur'aq renames the Left Coast, the Caliphate of Obama.
How I wish we could boot Caulifornicate, Assachusettes, NY, NJ, Oregon, Washington State, MI, and especially, DC.
http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/2009/12/29/...
The Anti Liberal Zone
Now you get it
/sarc
…."The two goobers that aided the Nigerian terrorist, were released from Gitmo in 2007,"
That is a suprise how ?
I bet they voted for Obama Hussein Absentee and contributed to his campaign
……"2010, 35 states seceed from the federal islamic government led by Caliph Bur'aq al Obummer."
Out of 57 thats not so many
/sarc
They sure make a good argument AGAINST the "catch and release" program.
Hunting is simple, shoot them, and gut them and tag them.
This isn't a juvenille fishing derby.
OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
Obama gives foreign cops new police powers in U.S.
Sovereignty apparently set aside as agency exempted from law
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=120363
Cowboy Logic
You can not be suggesting that we keep Gitmo open, can you?
I read that
It is the first step in giving the U.N. total control of the U.S.
Those internment camps are ready to be filled with people who oppose
I read the same article last night and had pretty much the same reaction. The latest underwear bomber will probably get to "rehabilitate himself" working with Czar Jennings illustrating how not to put explosives near your nutz. Unbelievable.
Frankly, here is what I suggest.
We are at war. Gitmo does need to be closed. It needs off the public radar screen. It needs to become a non issue. The public doesn't really need to know what happens next.
Then, the military needs to set up a special "resort" for our little brown brethern that are unfortunate enough to be captured. A place so hideous, so midevil, so draconian that they will have an incentive to change their mindsets. Islam is a culture of the blade,and that is all they respect, and fear.
Just as Osama Bin Ladin releases propaganda videos, we need to release a couple.
The governent needs to bring Udai and Quasi Husseins infamous wood chipper back out of retirement.
Don't forget Free HealthCare and Carbon Credits
Propaganda video's, reminds me of stories I heard about in Vietnam. Take two VC, blind folded put them in a Huey and take the to 1000 feet or make them think they were at 1000 feet, but actually only a few feet above the ground. Start interrogation of one VC, if he didn't talk push him out of the Huey, SCREAMING his @ss off. Start interrogation of second VC, mission accomplished.
ThinkRight
I hear rumors of these 'internment camps' but noting more….do you have information?
Cowboy, after you stated the Messiah’s name you forgot to say, “mmm-mmm-mmm.” One demerit!
Sometimes, the simple things, still work the best.
At the time of the French Revoloution, the old French gal said "let them eat cake".
I say, LET THEM EAT PORK.
And be buried alive with it.
Here it is
http://www.goarmy.com/JobDetail.do?id=292
Internment/Resettlement (I/R) Specialists in the Army are primarily responsible for day-to-day operations in a military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility. I/R Specialists provide rehabilitative, health, welfare, and security to U.S. military prisoners within a confinement or correctional facility; conduct inspections; prepare written reports; and coordinate activities of prisoners/internees and staff personnel.
Some of your duties as an Internment/Resettlement Specialist may include:
Assist with the supervision and management of confinement and detention operations
Provide external security to confinement/corrections facilities or detention/internment facilities
Provide counseling and guidance to individual prisoners within a rehabilitative program
Prepare or review reports and records of prisoners/internees and programs
Sorry.
Mmm, mmm, mmm!
oola obongo, oola obongo, oola obongo!
Now I'm waiting for the witch doktor to show up, shake some chiucken bones, and take away my free healthcare for being so disrespectful of Borat.
I really enjoyed all the posts this morning….I sat here laughing while reading them…
Thanks for the laughs, I can't add any more to what already was said.
I think it’s just terrible that Barry was disturbed on vacation in Crawford… woops…I mean Hawaii. If that damned terrorist attack wasn’t bad enough, some kid in the presidential surfing party got hit with a surfing board and required a few stitches, they of coarse used a presidential motorcade to rush the kid to the hospital, “it’s good to be king.” Everyone should back off, it’s tough business screwing America, and Barry needs to decompress to prepare for Amnesty, Card Check, Cap-n-Trade 2010 is gonna be busy, so …shhhhhh…
Ah, the Golden Harp and St. Patrick's Blue, the official standard of of the President of Ireland, contrary to popular belief that the Shamrock and Green are.
My Irish antecedents came to this country to avoid precisely what the current crowd is trying to foist upon us, diminishing freedoms and more control by the arbitrary state.
Obama and his gang are beginning to look more and more like Cromwell and the Roundheads every day. Their gradual dispossession of the populace from its freedoms is not unlike Cromwell's "appropriation" of Irish lands.
This country is what it is, period! "It was cursed when it came in and will be cursed when it goes out"! That is what Scripture says and all the evidence definitely points that way! Our "important founding fathers belonged to the "secret" society of Masons e.g., George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Jon Adams, etc. and they needed Illuminati member (A secret New World Order Society) to make this country work! Watch the history channel. For instance, there are more Masonite symbols in Washington DC than in any other city in the world! It is more than probable that these sacred societies worshiped Lucifer, the rightful messiah!???
Congress had no problem, in 1989, moving to impeach Bill Clinton for lying about his affair with Monica and other issues. Why doesn't Obama's apparent failure to "protect and defend" and other hotly discussed Constitutional issues rise to the same level? Rather than to think about passing the Healthcare debacle,as soon as they reconvene, shouldn't The House be looking at Obama? Of course, I think they've forgotten about the U.S. Constitution, too. On second thought., the order of succession would give us Joe Biden as President. Holy Cow!! Next in order of succession could be Nancy Pelosi…….. Never Mind!!
Victor, dude what are you smoking?
It ain't that bad
Hussein Obama already fixed global warming and the Economy
Health care and the deficet is next
And when he can he is gonna fix the Constitution,it is broken he says
Rest your little heart ,Hussein Obama is on the job
/damn we are screwed
I was thinking the same thing
I was looking for the sarc tag
Wow Victor.
The Mormons have a Temple in Salt Lake.
The Catholics have beautiful cathedrals in New York City.
The Jews have beautiful Temples also, in New York.
Our little brown brethern also have some beautiful Mosques in America.
Are they all part of your accursed Masonic Conspiracy?
Don't forget, George Bush, he was a Mason.
Thanks, ThinkRight…..I feel better already!
"If Obama had any honour…" hmm, i think i see a small flaw in your proposal…
Wiping the coffee off my keyboard again … how about a warning in the future?
I think the first camp will be in DC. There is already a wall around most of it and it is encircled by an eight lane kill zone.
Now the true story of Obama's press conference can finally be told:
GOLFOCALYPSE NOW!
http://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2009/12/29/golfo...
Just spent the last two years in Ireland with my husband (he is an Irish national.) They have socialized medicine (which sucks) the government is the primary employer and taxes 55% of the income in the form of pensions, levies and other taxes and the government is a form of aristocratic control as the elected officials are promoted by a party which is controlled by the wealthy elites. Their Finance Minister just had his pancreatic cancer announced on public television without his consent (because the government owns the health records…aka socialized universal healthcare) and there is panic because he is the third generation Lennihan who has inherited his seat in the Dail.
They need a new government too. Ironically, the passive aggressive nature of the Fighting Irish will take care of that. Everyone just quit working because it was more lucrative to be on unemployment than to work. Gee…sounds oddly familiar to what every economist says will happen when a form of socialism takes over.
Let's invite Ireland to join as the 51st state and introduce them to the idea of Libertarian ideals, minus abortion!
This is why Obama keeps his friends close and his enemies closer. He becomes the lesser of three evils!
Our country received The Blessings of Abraham. However, since America is much different today, "blessings and cursings are coming out of the same (National) mouth!" We are losing our Blessings which are promised to us with conditions….If we back-slide we will lose them. If Jesus Christ is not their authoroity, then they are a Cult, as God gave Jesus Total Authoirty, Many of the signers of our Declaration of Indendence were Christian, bible-thumping preachers, I'll have to guess approx 50%….Don't trust the History Channel, as much of their Bible History(s) get twisted and little distortion here and there…Don't believe Nostradamus either. They're simply distractions.
So Gitmo didn't work? Suprise…
We are living under the gentile power structure of Rome, right now! This is the 6th biblical empire. It is beginning to disentegrate, I think. The next World power will be the One World Govt type. It lasts for 3-1/2 years. It gets taken over by the 8th World power….very evil system, and that lasts for 3-1/2 years and is totlally destroyed, never to return. Then, the Kingdom of God starts…America, at its founding attempted to separate and disconnect form the World Power at the time, Britain. (ie: British, Brit-Ish means Covenant Man). America must separate and disconnect from the World Power systems and return to its Original State of Mind and Spirituality. The war that started In the Heavens is now here On Earth….
The Geometries that the Masons use are derived from the Great Pyramid, ok. This structure is also called A Bible in Stone". It is highly likely, that Enoch, the 7th from Adam had a hand in building it. It is built on the Prime #, #5, which is the biblical # for Grace. The Structures kind of points the way to Jesus Christ, who was the 77th man from Adam.This monument is in the scriptures, hwever it has to be "pieced together" like a puzzle. The teaching and philosphy behind it, or within it is in Great Conflict with the Gentiles Monument, listed in the Bk of Daniel which is built on the #6. The masons make a huge error, when developing their Geometry of Life, which is True by the Way. The have removed a line from the Pyramid of Truth and it ought not to have been removed in the 1st place…Their geometry is that of Adam, After His Downfall!..But, the Geometry of Life as they develop it, says that they are removed from God, and in addition leave out the portions of soul and spirit…
That's the new jihadi styled "Fruit of the Booms".
@Mama Maria
The Republic of Ireland does have a socialized health system but it is not universal. There are several private insurance companies who charge moderate fees and very many ordinary middle class people have private health plans that prove very satisfactory.
You're basically on an anti-Fianna Fáil* rant here, a party for which the designation "aristocratic" is too fatuous to merit a response. If FF is controlled by "wealthy elites" at least – and at last – they're our own home-grown wealthy elites for a change. How becoming the 51st state of the Union with a Democratic and Republican duopoly (stinkingly wealthy elites, anyone?) would improve that aspect of our supposed woes is something you don't mention.
The economy, like that of the US, is in recession and with the dramatic fall-off of tax revenues the public debt has ballooned. The government has raised taxes and made severe cuts in expenditure as well as significant cuts in public employees wages and in social welfare payouts across the board. A correct and courageous approach almost unique in a modern social democratic state. (California could learn a thing or two from us.) I would have thought that your apparent libertarian predilections would have induced you to approve at least the latter action.
The Government that you're so eager to see the back of is the same in essence that presided over the Celtic Tiger miracle of the past 15 years where those of us who actually live in Ireland experienced a rise in our standard of living quite unprecedented in our sad and sorry history. There is no doubt that this phenomenal economic expansion would not have occurred under any opposition government dominated, as it would be, in policy matters, if not numerically, by the Labour Party whose leader, Éamonn Gilmore, was a member in a previous incarnation of the avowedly Marxist Democratic Left aka Workers' Party before the latter amalgamated with (some would say subsumed) the old Labour Party.
Only someone who has not endured the ineptitude and muddleheadedness of the various opposition parties when they have gained power would wish to give them the reins in such parlous times as these. Indeed said opposition is far more socialistic than Fianna Fáil (whose greatest sin in the eyes of our liberal media is that they are pro-business) and far more committed to social welfare doles and social engineering fantasies than the present administration ever was or ever will be.
As for Brian Lenihan he may have "inherited" his seat in the sense that he comes from a political dynasty but so did Winston Churchill – a very great hero to Americans of late. As did Robert Kennedy and Teddy. And George W. and Jeb. And Mitt Romney. And Hillary Clinton etc, etc. It goes with any political territory and doesn't reflect on the competence nor integrity of any given politician. By their deeds and their deeds alone can ye know them.
How the leak concerning Mr. Lenihan's health is related to the "government owning the records" is a mystery, especially since he had booked himself into a private clinic for the tests which ended in such bad news. Perhaps he being such a prominent public figure meant that even non-governmental record keepers gossiped. Just saying.
Brian Lenihan is a fine upstanding individual and an excellent politician. His work as Finance Minister has been both sagacious and extraordinarily courageous. I can only conclude that your animosity towards him is based on listening to the vicious Left Wing media – which would be anti-Fianna Fáil to their backbone if they had any – that dominates Ireland in a way inconceivable in the US.
Brian Lenihan is 50 years old and has been struck with a most lethal disease. Our thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family. Go gcumhdaí Dia é!
*a centre right, pro-business party of Irish Republican origins and nationalist philosophy and instincts, founded by Éamon De Valera in 1926 and the party which has garnered a plurality of the votes in every election since 1932.
Absolutely! This "administration" mocks us as it destroys us!
And may God please continue to bless the United States of America and save us from this takeover.
I believe that is the plan. God help us.
LOL!
OK, I have to ask, embarrassingly, what is sarc?
/sarc=sarcastic and way over the top
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Thnx.
With a twist, race still a factor in Ala. election
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) – A congressman trying to becoming Alabama's first black governor is facing opposition from some unlikely critics—black leaders who were on the front lines of the civil rights movement.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CT5B1G2...
/wow !
Handling problems the Obama way
HONOLULU — There is a sense of déjà vu in the Obama administration’s response to the attempted terrorist attack on Christmas Day. A by-now familiar pattern has been established for dealing with unexpected problems.
First, White House aides downplay the notion that something may have gone wrong on their part. While staying out of the spotlight, the president conveys his efforts to address the situation and his feelings about it through administration officials. After a few days, the White House concedes on the issue, and perhaps Barack Obama even steps out to address it.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31021.h...
….."Today, in 1937, the Irish Free State adopted a new constitution and evolved into a new nation, Ireland."
We should do the same here today.
Just use the original constitution we have and take back our country
As far as we Irish go, the Good Lord gave us whiskey to keep us from taking over the earth. Think about it: how many Americans are part-Irish (or more, like myself)? We make up more of the US than anyone except German descendents. If we ever struck a bargain with the German ones, we'd take over the whole country. But whiskey is more important than politics
May I suggest the Antarctic?
OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
Obama gives foreign cops new police powers in U.S.
Sovereignty apparently set aside as agency exempted from law.
Yet another act of transparency for this administration.
he catches them on fire.
According to the POTUS, The Underwear Bomber ALEDGEDLY did this.
He is innocent until the plane actually blows up.
The MSM has nicknamed the Nigerian Terrorist "The Underwear Bomber".
Isn't that just like a moron? The first time in his life he gets to wear a clean set of drawers, he catches them on fire. Some cultures have zero respect for the finer things in life.
Now, I'm sure he'll get lots of free government showers, and art rehabilitatioj therapy. Probably get to watch Barney the Purple Dinosaur.
I will look for the Monster dot com job posting for the government internment workers
Check this link out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_%28independ...
"Cascadia" is already a movement. Western Canadian provinces and Northwestern US states that have more in common with each other than the rest of their countries and that believe Ottawa and DC are disconnected from their interests already have an organization called "Cascadia" and entered into some agreements that sent their respective national capitals into a tizzy. Each claimed that the agreements were tantamount to international treaties and had to be modified.
Maybe DC and Ottawa should take a lesson from this sort of thing.
Wow, WND? Are you a birther too?
dear Lincoln ? to me hes the symbol of an out of control federal govt trampeling on states rights, sitting on his throne in wash d.c., more like stinkin Lincoln
Who released them? Wasn't it some guy named Bush? The guy who kept us safe for 7 years and 4 months. I thought he knew how to deal with terrorist types.
Let’s not forget that Bush had a hostile congress since ’06 and a hostile press from day one, and the Boy Wonder Barry running for president for two years constantly acting as a public defense attorney for the Islamo-Goons. Their incessant caterwauling about Gitmo as a torture chamber diminished it’s effectiveness, my only regret is “W” didn’t install a gallows, and begin hanging the bastards, oh well Barry’s got our back now …I recommend eyes in the back of your head.
Actually, that would be wonderful. Leave all the hick states to the dopes and right-wing yips.
You forgot that we are heavy drinkers and enjoy senseless brawling followed by more heavy drinking.
Wow just when I thought some Leftist freaks were crazy here comes Vic prophisizing. Dude…seriously go seek help. You have a screw loose. You to Gregory.
I agree. Mainly as my mother was German.
One of the greatest trips of my life was to Dingle Ireland and Waterford and Dublin. A bar in Dingle inhabited by the locals has a photo of Michael Collins on one side and a Eamon Devolara on the other side. Like to have been a fly on the wall for a few political debates in that place.
The most important thing we should know about modern Ireland is that Eamon DeValera and Fiana Fail were socialists that imposed a socialist society on the Irish. The result: they had the lowest GDP/capita in Western Europe until the capitalist reforms of the 1980's. Capitilism led them to the second highest GDP/capita in Western Europe.
Within the last 30 years the world has witnessed Ireland, India, China begin to creep out of the systemic poverty of Socialism by undertaking capitalist market reforms. Barrack Obama and his ilk of out-dated Mao loving 60's socialists will lead us only into a system of stagnation.
Good Luck Ireland. God save the United States.
Éamon De Valera – a socialist!!! Fianna Fáil – socialist!!! Thanks, I needn't a bellylaugh. Dev fought the scoialists tooth and nail and has been endlessly excoriated by the liberal "intellectuals" ad nauseam ad infinitum for it.
BTW, Fianna Fáil led by De Valera or anybody else never "imposed" anything on Ireland. Any FF government was chosen democratically by the people in many free and open elections since 1932.
The only government that was not elected to office was the Fine Gael/Labour Coalition (1994-1996) which Mary Robinson (then President) installed when the FF government resigned. She refused to dissolve the Dáil (parliament) – the first and only time a President has done so – and used to opportunity to smuggle her Labour Party and their FG fellow-travelers cronies back to power without the benefit of an election, an act of malfeasance which the media covered up because of their desire to carry water for a feminist socialist icon – Can you think of any comparison closer to home?