Climate Deal: Strike Two For Obama in Copenhagen
by PubliusFrom the Associated Press:
President Barack Obama declared Friday a “meaningful and unprecedented breakthrough” had been reached among the U.S., China and three other countries on a global effort to curb climate change but said much work was still be needed to reach a legally binding treaty.
“It is going to be very hard, and it’s going to take some time,” he said near the conclusion of a 193-nation global warming summit. “We have come a long way, but we have much further to go.”
The president said there was a “fundamental deadlock in perspectives” between big, industrially developed countries like the United States and poorer, though sometimes large, developing nations. Still he said this week’s efforts “will help us begin to meet our responsibilities to leave our children and grandchildren a cleaner planet.”
The deal as described by Obama reflects some progress helping poor nations cope with climate change and getting China to disclose its actions to address the warming problem.
But it falls far short of committing any nation to pollution reductions beyond a general acknowledgment that the effort should contain global temperatures along the lines agreed to at a conference of the leading economic nations last July.
Read the whole article here.
No doubt the media will spin this as some important development and chalk up a point in Obama’s column. Make no mistake, however, this is a disaster for Big Green, Inc. Copenhagen had been planned to usher in legally-binding emission caps. An epic fail. A very Merry Christmas to all!
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We should listen to someone who's been there and done that. Vaclav Klaus, a rational, very learned man who seems to have more common sense in his pinky than the entire Woodstock Nation gathered now in the fairy tale land of Hans Christian Andersen. Here's a short article demonstrating his even-handed common sense:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2009/12/18/czech-p...
Thank God!!!
The Climate has been changing ever since there was… well climate. Enjoy the warm spell, Ice Age #61 will be here eventually. This farce in Hopenbeggin is nothing but the transfer of wealth on a global scale.
They reached an agreement to agree to talk about the things they do not agree on at a later date.
Talk about spinmeistering.
oBOWma said — “meaningful and unprecedented breakthrough” AGAIN.
Hire a new speechwriter with your stimulus $$ — create at least one job.
The climate has been changing for billions of years before the first hominid progenitor of man climbed down from the trees and exhaled his first carbon rich global warming breath.
I was reassuring to see numerous developing nations, who can ill afford indulging in AGW mythology, refuse to participate in this circlef*sting.
Sorry, I can't think of a more apt metaphor. I just can't.
Obama has created jobs, he let his wife hire 22 staffers to screw up security at white house social events.
I forgot. . .you are right!. . .no wonder MEchelle is so exhausted with a staff of 22! Did you see her interview?
Although this Social Secretary, Desire (I should be the real center of attention here) Rogers reports to the President. . .so many egos, so little time!
Snip : "The president said there was a “fundamental deadlock in perspectives”
I think that the song lyrics … Time is on our side, yes it is. works here and I bet it's driving the left nuts, LMAO
Looks like the good citizens of the USA dodged a bullet this week!
You left out : "a later date to be agreed upon." If we had had the foresight to pass a global tax on bullshit, Copenhagen would have fulfilled its promise – and Venezuela would owe us a boatload…..
Ant typically " a fundamental deadlock in perspectives" is referred to as an "unprecedented agreement" What law school did he teach at again?
Sorry, this article is not accurate.
FIRST READ THIS: http://www.repubx.com
EXCLUSIVE – British Peer: Copenhagen Summit Has Established A World Government
by DefendUSx December 18, 2009 14:15
NEXT: UNDERSTAND THIS:
The goal was never to bind a treaty at this stage, but instead to create an "Institutional Framework" to begin funding for world government UN organizations. It starts with the 100 Billion Hillary was alluding to at the Summit.
It's exactly what Lord Monckton said would happen .. make it appear to sign some sort of deal, but instead just start the initial funding. Not good .. not good at all.
Also, here's why Obama is so intent on passing this legislation –
How about dictatorial powers:
Here is the hierarchy of the government takeover of healthcare .. making you dependent on them – big-time.
It starts at the top with guess who – Obama.
So it goes like this in order:
Obama >
Health Commissioner >
Secretary of Health >
Advisory Committee >
State Regulators >
Hospitals >
Doctors
Guess who appoints BOTH the Health Commissioner AND the Secretary of State?? You guessed it – Obama.
Who appoints the first several members of the advisory council?? You guessed it – Obama.
Now, with Obama using that Chicago-style politics of threats, blackmail and bribery .. do you think anyone is going to be able to act on their own accord?
Also, the office for this Healthcare takeover is to be in the Executive Branch (already initiated by Obama with March Executive Order). By having in the Executive Branch, it circumvents any checks and balances by Congress.
Don't like an Obama policy .. fine, then you'll get no healthcare and even possibly go to jail.
You see the mass dependency this creates and thus totalitarian power consolidation.
http://www.livestream.com/CMN1
"A Man who won't write a check right now, will not pick up a gun to defend his family or his country."
What a snow job. Thank You God LOL
Obama needs to go now.
So we get a Friday with good news, wasn't Fridays declaired WH Screws the Public Day? That seems to be when they give out bad news.
Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Clause, but he had to cut back because Andy Stern & SEIU managed to unionize the work shop.
Five nations out of 193 nations agree to meet and discuss later the stuff they disagree on now…Unprecedented success? Sounds like a failure again and Obama's grade descends to a lot less than he gave himself earlier.
B+ = F!!!
LOL…..You guys should take this show on the road…LOL
But Jordan, you miss the point… when BarryO fails the USA wins.
I think we should write the Userper and tell him and his zombies to stop breathing and emitting carbon dioxide, plus they should stop pooping because they are contributing to the climategate carbon monoxide problems. As soon as they all choke, we can put this country into some sane order again.
It's Friday night and I can get silly because everything is so unfreakingbelievable that we will all get ulcers before 2010.
Well, this may not be the perfect outcome of the Conference; but it's a start.
I think what was lost in the U.S. reports on Copenhagen was that some clear solutions were presented.
Solutions which didn't require all the jumping through hoops and mandates and such that U.S./EU solutions seem to want.
Why didn't the U.S. media give deserved attention to the solutions suggested by Hugo Chavez? Chavez was able to successfully connect the world's ability to stave off climate issues with a movement towards the type of robust new economy his country is working towards.
I mean, it seems like the perfect solution in the perfect storm. We can solve climate and GLOBAL economic issues all through the same mechanisms.
Why is the U.S. media and U.S. government burying the facts here and hiding that a solution to global warming IS readily available?
Seems like once again, U.S. citizens end up on the short end of the stick.
Dave.. There is no Global Warming. It's nothing more than a big fruad. Now get your head out of the sand and wake up.
All freedom loving people around the world should now use this case to expose the stealth communists once and for all. Thanks to the hakckers (Russians) of the e-mails, we know have a chance. Including bringing down UN.
I've got a couple new photoshops to share-
Here's a Copenhagen Summit keepsake- I'm guessing it'll only cost a carbon credit or two.
And here's the real concern: the EPA, or what I like to call, "the Dead Tree Society."
"Why didn't the U.S. media give deserved attention to the solutions suggested by Hugo Chavez? Chavez was able to successfully connect the world's ability to stave off climate issues with a movement towards the type of robust new economy his country is working towards."
Davy Callow, I've figured you out. You're not a libtroll after all- you're a conservative countertroll, planted to make liberals appear to be complete and utter imbeciles.
Venezuela's "robust new economy?" BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
There were no "hackers." The leak was an inside job.
A start? They have been at this for 15 years and they are losing ground faster than Obama is losing poll numbers.
Great picture, Publius.
I hope you don't mind a subtle modification of it?
(very subtle change)
http://cavedrawingstudios.com/obamash.jpg
nice ;^]
I hear it didn't matter whether Obama or anyone else went to Copenhagen. World government and communism are a done deal.
Any thoughts?
too soon to rejoice folks: http://ow.ly/NA99
Subtle indeed! I didn't notice it until I put them side by side.
30 Billion dollars a year pledge and they still turn Obama down. I guess the dollar just is not worth what it use to be.
It really makes me sick knowing such foul people such as michelle and berry are in the whitehouse as well as his mother in law and god knows who else.. They stand for nothing that made this nation great and we are going to be reallt lucky if we can stop ALL of these left wing socialists (Obama, Stern, Soros, Acorn, WFP, SEIU, etc etc etc) before it's too late.
I get a malware warning when I visit that site… BEWARE!
Nice!
Yeah they will meet in the dog days of August to prove the point that we really have warming.
Ask the spaniard how the economic boom from going green is working for them. If you buy the c**p Obie is selling you need to inform yourself a little bit better.
Loved the Goracle.
Hopenbeggin – wahahaha!
"We can solve climate and GLOBAL economic issues all through the same mechanisms. "
Who is WE? Until we have one global country I don't think it's our responsibility to solve global economic issues. We can't even solve our own. Besides, the world hates us, remember? Why would they want our money?
According to Prince Charles, we only have 50 days to save the world. Since Obamba has failed to save the world, go down on your mama's basement and come out in 2012……by then we will have a new president.
We did not sign a treaty. He may have agreed about something but it is not binding as a treaty. He needs 2/3 of the senate and he will not get that. We should have pulled out of the UN a long time ago.
"Climate" is certainly a bogus issue and media have written reports about global warming, cooling then warming again about every 15-20 years. Get real.
If there were even a need to focus on polluting emissions wouldn't it make far more sense to have a strong energy policy – dare I whisper "Nuclear?" (Doik, every Simpson's educated, Jane Fonda influenced Three Mile Islander glows green and cringes- Pavlov's dog is drolling)
Really, grow up, the world has benefitted from our Nuclear developments for decades but the politically motivated in the US can't speak the word.
Nuclear and growing clean economy; energy independence go hand in hand.
http://twitpic.com/jamnd
The govenment used to fund
Rowing Canada Avrion(french rowing)
$1 1.000,000,000.00 dollars ,million
$800.000.00 dollars never left Ottawa.
It cost $200 thousand dollars to administer
$800 thousand. That is ridicules!
Wake up people.
FIRE THEM ALL !!
The Copenhagen Conference was a massive failure. Obama flew there and back and nothing was accomplished. Obama looked like an idiot, especially after the Conference gave a standing ovation to a Chavez speech blasting capitalism. This was clearly the major story that should have been lead news but the staterun media lead with – wag the dog – news to cover his failure. If this was Bush, they'd have crucified him, not that he would've been in this situation. We escaped this one! God is good.
Our next huge concern is Socialized Medicine. Pray hard because this will take this country into unchartered European terrority. It's something that cannot be undone. This is their opportunity and they're seizing it. Bastards!
It's snowing heavily in DC (God is good) and I'm hoping that it's too difficult for Byrd to make the vote, Lieberman has skipped town and may not get back because of the weather, Nelson still hasn't caved… they'll try Snowe but I doubt she's go for it… Pray hard!!
We need a leadership, and policing on global issues. Such organisation cannot be done in a few days. However it van be done now that the is a majority in commitment for the first time.
Global problems like poverty, overfishing oceans, nuclear & insolvent bandid states can be dealt with in the same way. Now the majority of world leaders wants to take responsiblity and pay. This majoriry of leadership is new. After alle it would have been worthwile to act on bandid states some time ago. The differece of a little responsibility now and the cost in a few decades is huge. It is lazy to be negative and reject thougts. I'm not a climate fan.
Tell that to the scientists that discovered it, Darkwolfe!
I'm not so sure I understand your accusations or implications:
i) counter to what?
ii) are you suggesting that the fact that Venezuela sells oil (carbon fuel) thru what basically amounts to a commodity market is anathema to re-working capitalism and cleansing the environment?
I'm not so sure I like your implications or accusations.
Dan, you know as well as I do that 15 years amounts to a blink of the eye in geopolitical terms.
Particularly when the most powerful empire in the universe is focusing all that power like a laser beam at disrupting your success.
Let's give this a chance and see how it plays out.
pazzi, I'm as well informed as anyone who believes in Global Warming could possibly be.
But thanks for the input.
The world doesn't hate us.
They are just a little frustrated with some of the decisions of past administrations.
I bet you that once we are giving them $100B a year, they will be back on our side!
Obama promised that he would restore a favorable world imagine to the USA…..yet ANOTHER campaign promise delivered!
You mean the scientists that faked up all the data so they could get bigger grants and soak up money any old way they could?
Dude, you are poorly informed.
Now, I could swear that the Prince said we have about 7 years.
Wasn't Gordon Brown the one that said 50 days? And, I think he said it at like the beginning of Oct.
So, looks like we are up the creek without a paddle.
My mom lives on the Gulf Coast. Low sea level. No basements. I guess I could go up to her attic, though?
That translates neatly to "I don't have a clue."
Ok I've beaten on you enough.
Keep your powder dry and hope you don't need it.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Although, I have to say…..I am a climate fan.
Would be tough to live here without it.
Are you a scientist?
You got your information about this supposed fake data from a flash in the pan Russian website, set up right before the summit?
And I am poorly informed.
Puhleeze.
God we have to deal with 3 more years of this asshole as President? God send down a lighting bolt or turn him in to a pillar of salt.
Maybe by the time they meet again the globe will have warmed so they don't have to dodge blizzards! Baby, it's cold outside!
too soon to rejoice folks: http://ow.ly/NA99
"I bet you that once we are giving them $100B a year, they will be back on our side!"
1. What difference does is it make if they like us or not.
2. You can't buy friendship. It wouldn't make any difference. Disgusting.
Subtle indeed! I didn't notice it until I put them side by side.
Obama needs a new speech writer, since he can't say two words without his teleprompter..his favorite word 'unprecedented', is getting too boring…mostly because the only thing he has done that is unprecedented is try to destroy America faster than any other president!! Anyone with a brain knows that Obama's administration is making America look like the bully on the playground…Of course we should re-cycle when possible, but that should be done because we WANT to, not because some idiot in the White House says so!! Obama, you are the President of the USA..start acting like one!! Global science is nothing more that the same 'junk science' we were hearing about in the 70' …"In 30 years, the earth will be frozen solid"…!! Enough already!!
I am very pleased with the president's performance. His charisma and soaring oratorical skills achieved only slightly more than I had hoped for, which was nothing.
YEs, you absolutely win the Poe award today.
"I give myself an A+ on Copenhagen, IMHO" Barack Obama
Tiger Obama. The fantasy world of Obama will become even more obvious than Tiger — soon.
Dave you poor uninformed troll … you should check out http://www.petitionproject.org for a list of scientists who know that AGW is a fraud. Far from a "flash in the pan" website.
Would you care to share your list of scientists who claim AGW is real?
I guess the ObamPOS cant read the stitches on the fastball. ObamaPOS also likes sending "personal letters" to Kim Jong Mentally Il. ObamaPOS, I read when you were at a bowling alley in Pa your score was 37. That means you threw a LOT of gutter balls. Gutter balls in bowling record ZERO pins. Sounds about like your politics. NOTHING but a bunch of zeroes. You, David the Assholerod ,and Rahmbonehead have LOST. America will NEVER accept communism.
Read below Peaches-(1) Red China wants there money theyve borrowed us. A commie USA makes that impossible(2) are you forgetting Islam?-they dont like the commies anymore than they do the west(3) going Galt-too many Americans WILL defend our freedoms-look at how many military folks positively HATE ObamaPOS. (4) communism is a system DOOMED to fail-remeber the Soviets only survived even in ww2 because WE gave them the weaponry to survive. We GAVE them grain. We gave them practically EVERYTHING. Even there military had to STEAL our plans and designs. Too bad the unthinking stupidity of there masses were unable to EXECUTE those plans and ideas, because thinking isnt something a typical commie(or moslem for that matter) isnt something they are expected to do.
Im afraid you will. I dont expect this narcassitic POS to go quietly. He really does think hes some sort of God.
In my 50 years following politics and politicians, I have never seen nor heard so much garbage and nonsense by a U.S. President . Absolutely NOTHING was accomplished, yet, he has the audacity to tell the world "progress was made". It is a shameful display of "lies, hypocrisy, double talk and waste of taxpayers money to have these clowns fly across the globe for such farce".
Are you truly THAT stupid? maybe you should ask some venezuelan baseball players like oh say Ozzie Guillen, Chicago White Sox manager("chavez is bad for my country"-ESPN the magazine, April 2009) Chicago Cubs pitcher Carlos Zambrano(I wont go back as long as Chavez is in charge") or former Cleveland Indians shortstop Omar Vizquel(hes a radical in the worse sense of the word). These folks know Chavez better than you or I do. Quit listening to know-nothings like Sean Pinhead(he lived with MADONNA at one time-enough said) or Mark "pink"(just a different shade of commie RED) Lloyd, an angry, bitter black racist. Your right-the US is getting the short end of the stick. Problem is, I dont see Chavez asking his RED CHINA commie pals to commit to the same restrictions. And by the way, what is Venezuelas chief export? Dirty, nasty carbon based fossil fuel-OIL. Funny how Oil is good for Chavez, but bad for America. Another commie hypocrite. Better wake up fool. Commies kill people like you first.
Obama once again, You Lie! This whole deal is about the U.S. coughing up money to help some chithole country in Africa that is run by a tyrant that would never ever let the people see a dime of the money? When will the MSM here in the U.S ever report the true story of this global warming hoax???
Id rather put ObmaPOS at club Gitmo. There he can commismerate with his fellow Moslem POS SKM. Theyd probably each do the world a favor and take each other out. Misery loves company after all.
'It is a shameful display of "lies, hypocrisy, double talk and waste of taxpayers money to have these clowns fly across the globe for such farce".
Pretty much sums up this administration and DC in general.
You call yourself "informed"? By who, East Anglia maven Phil Jones? Or maybe by Penn St greenred nut Michael"im not a" Mann? or maybe Tim "wiggles" Wigley? You must truly think the alligator will eat you last or something. Tell you what Dave-you walk up to a polar bear with a camera. Ill approach him with my remington shotgun. Any bets whod survive? Youd look like cellphane wrap. Id still be standing. Please , Dave, spare us your Soros claptrap. You and your ilk are finished.
One other thing Dave Tallow-in 1970 PAUL EHRLICH said by 2000 wed all be living in bubble cities. Ive yet to see one. In 1992-environmental "expert" Ted Danson said we had 10 years before our water supply became so polluted our earth would be "uninhabitable". Its seventeen years later and we all still live here. Dave, maybe id suggest you become a vaccum cleaner salesman ,along with Chavez and ObamaPOS, since you all know how to SUCK.
"In 1999, the first year of Hugo Chávez in power, Venezuela occupied position 48 in the ranking of the Human Development Index, which measures the quality of life in a society. This meant that Venezuelans enjoyed a quality of life higher than, say, the peoples of Panama, Mexico, Colombia, Cuba, Albania, Estonia, Croatia, Thailand, Bulgaria and Saint Kitts and Nevis, among many other countries. Today, in 2005, Venezuela occupies place 75 in the ranking and is below all of the countries listed above. It is also below countries like Libya, Grenada, Trinidad Tobago and Costa Rica, to name just a few"
Economiy contracted 4.5% in the last quarter alone (that's not the annual rate, that's the quarter.) Inflation at 20%. Oil production declining, after the skilled personnel were purged and replaced by commissars. Middle class vanished, aside from the lavishly-compensated Chavista nomenklatura. Most damning of all, Venezuela, a net food importer ten years ago, can no longer feed itself, and people queue for hours to have a crack at the few items on store shelves, shades of the USSR.
Mr Tallow, you're one of those purblind romantics who can watch a boot stamping on a human face and declare, "but the face has free healthcare!"
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very nica post.
We start from a different premise Dave, on almost everything and therefore we will not be able to agree on much of anything. 15 years is a long time when you consider that is the inclusive time of almost 4 Presidential terms or that WW II was fought and won in 6 years. Thanks for the reasoned thoughts but, I suggest we leave this without hard feelings and just discontinue any further discussion because of our philosophical differences. I will refrain from commenting on your thoughts in the future, and will offer the last word to you. Thanks
Wow. You are a one man intellectual wrecking crew.
Please, oh please, stop beating on me. My self esteem is shrinking as I type this, oh mighty Darkwolfe.
We all know whats happening and yet it seems we don't want to acknowledge it. America in on the eve of turmoil.
The leftists will never back down. Their gonna try and try to shove cap/trade, healthcare reform, etc up our arses. They haven't come this far to fail. And all that stands in their way is you and I, our guns, our Constitution and our willingness to commit to whats Right. Enjoy this most blessed Celebration, love your family/friends, rejoice, celebrate and stay focused on what Right. And next year we meet in battle. Think God !
What he came home with was an agreement that nations would like to do something to address climate change issues.
Which sounds remarkably similar to the situation that existed before Copenhagen began.
Peaches, it looks that way. But all is not over. My advice. Pray. Even if you don't believe. It honestly helps.
pretty good!
May Harry's Healthcare meet the same fate.
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Sure , here are scientists who think AGW is real:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/0901...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/0901...
Things of beauty!
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