Monday Open Thread: Pearl Harbor Edition

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How far we have come, you might even say "fallen" in the way this Country responds to threats against our National Security. What happened to us between 7-12-1941 and 9-11-2001 ?

I still haven't forgiven them…

On a lighter note, here's some photoshop fun for your viewing enjoyment (or to criticize, whichever you prefer)

The real Hockey Stick chart
Joe Biden, Going Rogaine
Taliban Headquarters

Pearl Harbor Day is marked to remember a day the United States took a direct and severe assault from Japan on December 7,1941. Today is December 7 2009, the day our prez is attending a U.N. organized direct and severe assault on the United States… the irony of it all !!

I think with Obama in charge we can do it ourselves, we don't need the Japanese to attack us. He is a light weight who follows failed agendas no matter what. I would like to think differently but more taxes is not the answer. Yes he sent the troops, 75% of the requested number but he does not know how to fire up the troops and shows no inspiration.

ACORN happened to us. It's been their intent from day 1.

Our Greatest Generation saved US, and saved the World from Fascism. For that, we should be eternally grateful. December 7 was a dastardly, surprise attack that set US on a course of war. September 11 was a similar surprise attack, that set on a course of several police actions. There is a difference. WE have won wars, we have never won a police action.

Let US also not forget the signifigance of today, as it relates to real world politics. Six weeks ago, Obama was slated to be in Copenhagen TODAY, and sigh a Global Treaty, whereby he would cede all American rights of sovereignty to the World Body, essentially the United Nations and their minions. His schedule got changed, the public statements by Lord Monkton notifying thw World, and US of what Obam was about to do on this date, if it weren't for Lord Monkton, Obama would have snuck this through under cover of darkness and signed the Treaty. The Climategate email scandal was a big part of it, that and a letter writing campaign six weeks ago. Little things do make a difference. We must keep the pressure on.

Not next year. In 2012.

It's NEVER to late to fix any problem. Now the longer it goes on – the more it's gonna HURT when we do fix it – and a bunch of the teet suckers are going to be the ones that get hurt the most (which is funny, because they are the ones that GAVE us this problem to begin with).

But don't EVER think it's too late to fix the problem. WE can always fix these problems – and the Founders even gave us PERMISSION! (yeah, the libs don't like to hear that part)

If this happened today, Obama and his administration's first reaction would be: We must try to understand why they are so angry with us."

American presidents bow to no one, Mr. Obama.

History tells us what works and what fails, all we need to do is pay attention.

WHEN DOES REALJOURNALISM.COM START???? I hear something is happening late this afternoon….
Have a great day.

Here's a comparison of the original 1941 Pearl Harbor headline with today's much different approach to terrorism: Crime! Declared on al-Qaeda and Other 9/11 Terrorists http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/11/crime-declare...

If Obama was really crafty, he'd have given Dodge to China, and made them buy repair parts fro US……..

I always recommend Tora Tora Tora for this day. It's a terrific US/Japanese production. No CGI. Jerry Goldsmith score. Amazing roster of actors.

And it depicts U. S. incompetence leading up to what should NOT have been a "surprise attack." There is no sugar coating.

And both sides are shown for their audacity and bravery. A truly great motion picture.

I was lucky enough at the tender age of 14 to have visited Pearl Harbor the same day we saw the movie on the big 70mm screen.

1. By January l, 1941, Roosevelt had decided to go to war with Japan.

2. But he had solemnly pledged the people he would not take their sons to foreign wars unless attacked. Hence he dared not attack and so decided to provoke the Japanese to do so.

3. He kept all this a secret from the Army and Navy.

4. He felt the moment to provoke the attack had come by November. He ended negotiations abruptly November 26 by handing the Japanese an ultimatum which he knew they dared not comply with.

5. Immediately he knew his ruse would succeed, that the Japanese looked upon relations as ended and were preparing for the assault. He knew this from the intercepted messages.

6. He was certain the attack would be against British territory, at Singapore perhaps, and perhaps on the Philippines or Guam. If on the Philippines or Guam he would have his desired attack. But if only British territory were attacked could he safely start shooting? He decided he could and committed himself to the British government. But he never revealed this to his naval chief.

7. He did not order Short to change his alert and he did not order Kimmel to take his fleet out of Pearl Harbor, out where it could defend itself, because he wanted to create the appearance of being completely at peace and surprised when the Japs started shooting. Hence he ordered Kimmel and Short not to do any thing to cause alarm or suspicion. He was completely sure the Japs would not strike at Pearl Harbor.

8. Thus he completely miscalculated. He disregarded the advice of men who always held that Pearl Harbor would be first attacked. He disregarded the warning implicit in the hour chosen for attack and called to Knox’s attention. He disregarded the advice of his chiefs that we were unprepared.

9. When the attack came he was appalled and frightened. He dared not give the facts to the country. To save himself he maneuvered to lay the blame upon Kimmel and Short. To prevent them from proving their innocence he refused them a trial. When the case was investigated by two naval and army boards, he suppressed the reports. He threatened prosecution to any man who would tell the truth.

Now, if there is a shred of decency left in the American people they will demand that Congress open the whole ugly business to the light of day.

Nah, we held a series of trials in Guadalcanal, Iwo Jime, Saipan, Tarawa, Tinian, Hiroshima, and Tokyo. Done and done.

I would instead say "Progressives"… But I tend to try and simplify things….

We have another Pearl Harbor-type sneak attack underway as we sit here. This time, it is a slo-mo stealth attack on the very foundations of our republic.

I'm afraid we're going to wake up to its full extent only after it is too late to do anything about it. A nation can be destroyed in four years.

I'm afraid we're going to wake up on November 5 next year hopefully having elected a non-socialist, but he/she will find it impossible to reverse the fatal damage to our Constitutional process. God help us.

Yep, even in New York 8 years ago. If only we had a president now that took this thing as seriously as the previous one did.

We remember. The world remembers. What is still puzzling the victims of Japanese butchery, rape and looting is why most of the Jap war criminals and elite were not hung or beheaded. The entie royal family should have been summarily executed, and those signing the surrender should have been shot and thrown overboard for the shark's dinner.

Unfortunately.

Something to remember about Pearl Harbor.

The Japanese reported that within 5 minutes USN anti-aircraft fire was intense and effective.

Our triple A caused the Japanese considerable discomfort. They did not like tangling with it. Six months later at Midway the first wave returned to the carriers seriously reduced and demoralized.

And we all know what happened later.

And I say this with all the respect in the world for the Imperial Navy. Which was without a doubt the finest carrier force in 1941. No other navy could have brought six decks to a single battle at that time.

But we can hit back. We can learn.

At the end, many of the Japanese thought of us as a stern master, teaching a lesson.

Remember Pearl Harbor. But remember we are not victims.

We can fight with the best or worst.

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