California ACORN Responds to Revelation of Massive Doc Dump, Data Breach at Its San Diego Office
by PubliusFrom NBClosangeles.com:
When reached for comment, Amy Schur of ACORN’s state office, explained why the paperwork was in the trash.
“In early October, when our San Diego staff were doing an office clean-up in preparation for a major 10-station phone bank program being set up in our offices, it appears that included in the piles of garbage being thrown out may have been some documents containing private information,” Schur wrote in an e-mail to NBCSanDiego. “To the individuals whose paperwork was pulled out of the dumpster by this guy Derrick Roach – unsuccessful Republican candidate for State Rep in San Diego – we truly apologize. We will seek return of this information so that we may give proper notice of the compromising of the information as required by law.”
When asked about ACORN’s policy for disposing of sensitive documents, Schur said, “It is ACORN’s policy to shred documents with personal information at the point when they no longer need to be retained.”
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Schur confirms the ACORN office was aware of Brown’s upcoming visit but said that did not prompt the removal of thousands of documents.
“Absolutely not. Our files were not part of the scope of the visit by the Attorney General’s office, and the majority of what was thrown out was junk – old leaflets, newsletters, etc… It looks like our staff were careless and some documents with personal information were included in the piles of garbage,” Schur wrote.
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Make sure to keep a copy of these documents. Now that they want them back, they will just disappear.
ah it was in the trash … sue me !!!!
They've gotten white washing down to an art form.
I wonder if someone in the organization is trying to get information into the hands of law enforcement officials?
OMG, I had to read that twice just to make sure I was hearing what I was reading. They aren't even good at double speak.
“and the majority of what was thrown out was junk – old leaflets, newsletters, etc… It looks like our staff were careless and some documents with personal information were included in the piles of garbage,” Schur wrote.
it’s the “Bertha School of Quotes” class…
What will they say when Andrew lays out page after page of sensitive information …..
Too bad if the docs are already scanned in as pdfs….
Heh.
Amy went to the "Bertha School of Quotes"
the majority of what was thrown out was junk – old leaflets, newsletters, etc… It looks like our staff were careless and some documents with personal information were included in the piles of garbage,” Schur wrote.
So Amy, when Andrew lays out page after page after page of documents what are you going to say?
Your spin is too late Amy….You violated several laws.
the garbage's civil rights were abused
hussein will protect all. and middle class working Americas will pay the bill as always. remember he's your brother he an't heavy.
Derrick doesn't have to give the documents back. He found them in the trash. Didn't your Mama ever tell you that if you don't want people to know your business, don't make it available. *smile*
Liar, liar, liar1 Brown tipped them off and they tried to pull a fast one. Brown is part of them and should be investigated as well. Acorn is a criminal enity that needs to shut down and all of the management jailed and throw away the key! Theyare guilty of voter fraud, vote dampering, intimidation, comingling funds, illegal political contributions, tax evation and god knows what else! Jerry brown is involved up to his neck and he should be jailed as well. wake Up California before your just slaves for the elite and acorn and SEIU! Boycott California.
No federal money for California. Force them to live within their income. Move out of California and save yourself from the fruit and nuts that have taken over your state! Wake Up Califorina! Theelected clowns have stolen the dream of California and replaced it with debt and special interest bent on stealing your wealth for themselves! wake up before it's too late! Boycott California untilthey grow up and find some common sense and get rid of the crazy people like Brown, Pelosi, Boxer, Waxman and the rest of the crooks! They have destoryed your state! heyt maybe when you get hundry enough you can eat the spotted owl or the sea otters! It's good you preserved them and let yourselfs become exstinct!
These people are so incredibly inept that a prosecution should be a slam dunk. Too bad the authorities are no smarter.
"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
Abraham Lincoln
ACORN, you should probably remain silent. You have the right, it just seems you don't have the ability.
If it was illegal to go through garbage, tte National Enquirer would have been out of business years ago.
"“Absolutely not. Our files were not part of the scope of the visit by the Attorney General’s office, and the majority of what was thrown out was junk – old leaflets, newsletters, etc… It looks like our staff were careless and some documents with personal information were included in the piles of garbage,” Schur wrote."
Riiiiggghhhht. There was a lot more in there than just personal information. Maybe personal between Acorn, Seiu AND political orgs.
Community Organizers? I mean did this idiot not hear the audio where the PI said it's ongoing?
These clowns could not organize a line at the post office, let alone their stories.
The spin isn't proffered for the knowledgeable, it is trotted out for their own supporters and lock-step followers who simply, "believe in the goodness" of their intentions. It will be enough.
I wonder how much of a tease the initial pics and info was– just enough to elicit a response that will later embarrass their sorry selves when the heavy duty info gets out?
Yes blame it on the guy who found it in the trash…These people never stop thinking that the public are idiots
.. “To the individuals whose paperwork was pulled out of the dumpster by this guy Derrick Roach – unsuccessful Republican candidate for State Rep in San Diego – we truly apologize". ACORN's explanation to their believers/supporters on how to not believe anything else reported that might be derogatory towards ACORN. They know that they won't be able to dispute the documents that were disposed of in a public trash receptacle, so they are trying to discredit the messenger.
They truly do have it down to a science. And why not, they've been doing it for years.
Hmmmm..They are such easy prey… they learn nothing…
Why aren't their files "part of the scope of the visit"? I guess Moonbeam will just need a few select interviews to declare them on the up and up, nothing to see here…
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha………Oh, she wasn't joking?
hell I'd let it slip that on politicians name was in the paperwork…. I know, I'm starting to act like a Democrat and lie ….
One never knows what one is going to find when you go DUMPSTER DIVING! I wonder just how may violations these clowns have broken….
Stupid people are not is short supply. ACORN specializes in hiring them. They make mistake after mistake, but still they are protected. This entire situation disgusts me to the core.
Prey on the dumb and stupid… Rev Al and Jessie Jackson have been doing it for years!!!
Schur said, “It is ACORN’s policy to shred documents with personal information at the point when they no longer need to be retained.”
Hahahahahaha…
BEHOLD, the power of the Nonsense Doofus Dance Step Statement.
I can just hear the voice of Barack Obama in that statement by Schur. It's like he's given them an entire script or set of lines to deploy at what and when.
I guess Obama's "community organizing" bore some fruit, like, "How To Speak Elaborately But Admit Nothing"
"A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one"…………Benjamin Franklin
If they were smart the would've bought a shredder or arranged an "accidental" fire.
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I guess no one at ACORN San Diego reads Big Government. And, OJ was innocent…………right.
They can't stop lying. Personal stuff is usually kept in file cabinets and locked. You don't have to toss files to get a new phone system.
It is clear to me that ACORN has, in the past, routinely:
Extorted businesses;
Registered fictitious voters;
Illegally used tax-free donations for Dim-mocrat candidates;
Created a culture of corruption where literally anything goes.
The evidence of the culture of corruption is the reception Giles and O'Keefe were given at practically every location they visited. These people were at their sordid game for so long, they began to think they were untouchable. We are damned lucky for the confluence of Giles, O'Keefe and Breitbart. Really, we needed all three elements present and working to be as successful as they were in exposing these sorry b*st*rds.
Thank you, all three of you great Americans.
Yeah — I'm sure you noticed the excess verbiage, also. When the dumb-masses lie, they get very wordy, as if dressing up the thought a little bit might make it more credible.
EPIC FAIL!
They are what they are. They will be what they will be.
Depends on whether the dumpster was on Acorn's private property or on public property – laneways beside buildings are usually owned by the municipality. If it was on public property, it's fair game.
It's great to see they're doing it a little less successfully lately.
And that is thanks to those great Americans Giles, O'Keefe and Breitbart. There's no doubt about it. If those outstanding individuals had never taken a hand, never bravely ventured to do what they did, these sorry ACORN b*st*rds would stil be in the driver's seat, running their criminal enterprises with impunity.
it's interesting to note the absence of most the usual leftist apologists in the comments to this story and to the AGW scandal.
Yeah, you're right. And Moonbeam's old flame Linda Ronstadt proves that musical or other talents don't guarantee a person will have a lick of sense. She's still running around dogging out Bush and propping up the corrupt regime currently holding Washington, D.C. hostage.
Moonbeam and Ronstadt; Turner and Fonda — Amazing how these couples were just made for each other. If I woke up married to Jane Fonda, I would stab my own eyes out.
This is how we have to treat the Left from here on out. They get the full Alinsky treatment from me, now and forevermore. They are our enemies. Forget that they are fellow Americans, because they sure don't see themselves that way. They want to make you into a slave and a donkey. Fight them, expose them, ridicule them, and teach your children to hate them.
Yeah, true, the authorities aren't so very smart. In addition to that, they're not very willing, either. Look at how the LameStream Media had to be dragged to the ACORN expose, kicking and screaming.
Further, look at A.G. Holder. Andrew Breitbart laid it on the line to our boy the Attorney General (making me inordinately proud in the process). Investigate, or the rest of the ACORN tapes will surface just in time to make the 2010 elections a whole lot more fun. I love it.
I'm down with that. Hell, yeah.
Very good comment.
LOLOLOL They want the garbage BACK??? So they can apologize for it? Oh Please, give 'em something and make 'em explain it publically. Yeah 20,000 docs. A dumpster FULL of docs. To make room for TEN phone stations???That is a lot of "Clean up, we have a very important visitor / inspection coming." Someone said get rid of everything, and someone else took the oppurtunity to do so. And then maybe made a call? Be careful what you tell someone to do. You might want to take. it. back.
And this dump was done "In early October"? What if damning paperwork is found to have been dated post-early October…?
Did they break any Recycling Laws?
You know, even if they shred them in the future…they can still be pieced together by someone who's industrious and dedicated enough. Because once their in the trash, their considered abandoned and no longer property of ACORN.
why didn't these earth-friendly liberals RECYCLE? Thankfully, this PI saved our overburdened landfills….
[...] are very, very strict. Which is why the local ACORN branch is trying the novel ‘Oops, fall cleaning‘ [...]
Actually, if it's in the garbage and set out for collection, I think it's considered abandoned. Otherwise, garbage collectors wouldn't be able to take trash off your property (legally anyway). That's why police can take your trash without a warrant. At least I think they can. I could be mistaken on this one.
and they can't just say, 'oops, we made a mistake' — they have to take every opportunity to attack conservatives … we'll remember that when they say they are nonpartisan
Its not the fault of the people of CA. Its the fault of ACORN. The people need to do some serious soul searching and figure out they need to change who represents their state, but the major of people in CA are good people
That's what I was thinking, a lot o' docs for ten wittle phones.
Good try, Amy! How long did it take to come with that?
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Let 'em talk. Then you can prove they are lying. And I'm thinking Andrew will.
A piece or two is a mistake…20,000 pieces is intent!!! Idiots, WTF do you think we are? The pressure is on AG Brown and AG Holder to clean this mess and if they don't….THE PEOPLE WILL! I am mild mannered and educated but I am also a MAD SOB!
I would say that Derrick Is a Hero. But will we be willing to support him if there is Law suits that come about? Wel Need to email Derrick and let him know that we support him and stand behind him..
NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE:
7.10.150 Scavenging prohibited.
No person, other than the owner thereof, or an employee of the city, or a person holding a contract with the city for the collection of garbage and refuse, shall interfere in any manner with any garbage or rubbish receptacle or the contents thereof, or remove any such receptacle from the location where the same was placed by the owner thereof, or remove any of the contents from any such receptacle. Prior to citing an individual for a violation of this section, a warning shall first be given.
(Ord. 1812 (part), 1984)
A question: just how bloody stupid do you have to be to
Be part of a nationally-known organization
That's taking a lot of heat
That KNOWS people are watching and digging for information
And still throw all this stuff out this way?
I mean, c'MON, guys!
The dog ate my homework.
Honest!
"[Brown’s upcoming visit, which we knew about,] absolutely [did] not [prompt our removal of thousands of documents]. Our files were not part of the scope of the visit by the Attorney General’s office, and the majority of what was thrown out was junk – old leaflets, newsletters, etc…,” Schur wrote.
What irrelevant crapola. The state Attorney General had just publicly announced he'd launched an investigation of ACORN. I'd venture good odds there's a California statute making it a crime for an organization under criminal investigation to destroy / dispose of ANY documents, REGARDLESS of whether they're relevant to the investigation. So regardless of what's actually in the documents, ACORN has probably already committed a very serious crime.
Which means…that whatever juicy, damning, incriminating stuff IS in the documents is…GRAVY.
Hmmm hmmm hmmm, I LOVE gravy!
Wake up SD, TV investigative journalist do it all the time to expose companies who don't shred their private documents. It would be very funny if ACORN or the Leftwingnuts used a worthless obscure Muni code to defend their pathetic actions. PI's do this stuff all day long…and the leftwing did it to Sara Palin in Alaska…did you look up thier Muni Codes? Didn't think so. You guys are on the run so keep grasping for straws. LOL!
Thx for the laugh Thinking Man. It made me LOL
Schur's statements were truly written by a lawyer. It was a set up to threw some underling under the bus and then let us forget and move on. How predicable and pathetic.
I wonder just what was "part of the scope of the visit by the Attorney General’s office". Maybe the thermostat settings?
I think Liberty is making a joke…
"the garbage's civil rights were violated"….
Acorn=Garbage?
The discarded items were violated by not being handled IAW the Privacy act?
Well, the scary part is that Nobama was one of these "ACORN" morons for years. And, he has been pretty STUPID in how he is leading our country. Oh yeah, I forgot. He hates our country, white people and capitalism. Yeah, he is stupid!!!
I noticed that too, they just had to add "Republican". Has nothing to do with the fact that ACORN is just as stupid as it is corrupt. They are supposed to be helping people, yet they carelessly throw out such sensitive documents that could be used to steal someone's identity? The blame game is over. Noone with half a brain cell buys it.
You have to wonder what the documents that they shred had on them. hmmmm
So the AG's office told them what documents to make available? Maybe the AG told them they were going to audit just the documents that were inside the ACORN office. wink, wink, nod, nod
Pertinent information or Garbage-it ALL depends on who is “looking at it.” You know damned well that if their was information the police/sherrif could use to prosecute a crime there would be NO QUESTIONS ASKED! But, because WE THE PEOPLE have the government “by the tail” and they are doing all they can to avoid the issue by pointing fingers elsewhere’s. ACORN itself blames it’s own employees for “educating/indoctrinating” them until they/ACORN get caught breaking laws. Then it’s those DAMN EMPLOYEES! Amy Schur-you best be looking for a new job as well-because YOU’RE GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE DAMNED EMPLOYEES! Your LEGAL COUNSEL are idiots-why do you even open your trap? But, I really kind of like it!
Didn't I see this on an episode of America's Dumbest Criminals…
The sad part is the POTUS trained these people. What does that say of him?
Notice what’s relevant here..
UNSUCCESSFUL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE for State Rep.
It begs the question would a successful Republican candidate be acceptable?
See, if its an unsuccessful Republican the charges can’t possibly be true….
And what was the purpose of the "major 10 station phone-bank program" being installed?
to expedite the ripping off of American taxpayer money?
I agree cliff ……………….throw them all in jail.
I dont consider Derick Roach to be unsuccesful. Seems to me he’s doing just fine. See Ya in 2010 Derick!
In California you cannot chop dowm a Oak Tree-even when it is diseased and on your property…..Forget the tree and attack those fu@k in ACORN before its roots suck up all the water.
Some cowardly moron over at NBC LA tried to cite the trash SCAVENGER law of San Diego County. Didn't want to subscriber there but:
There you go , attacking the MESSENGER, and completely ignoring the message. You think it's more important to identify a misdemeanor committed versus the commission felony cover up by THE MOST CORRUPT organizations of thieves in the country, second only to Congress and and the political resident operative in the White House?
Despicable.
Doesn't Nancy Peloski own a vineyard in California? Can anyone tell me which one? I think a boycott on her wine is in order. I think it's time for her to start feeling a loss of income. How about dumpster diving at all of the ACORN/SEIU offices?
I think that goes without saying. It is too late to think it. Unless I type faster than I can think.
We already know how bad our state is… we don't need you boycotting us to make it worse. There may be a lot of nuts in our state, but we see it first hand every day. The people will wake up here, just like they're waking up in the rest of the country. We're the state that made Reagan a Governor.
"Prior to citing an individual for a violation of this section, a warning shall first be given."
This is obviously intended to deter bums from routinely scavenging items from trash bins. Of course, even if they came across someone looking for documents, it requires a first warning per individual. Given the potential for discovery, it'd be worth any fine they might levy. Hell, throw a bum $10 and see what he can find. It's more money than he'd get from ACORN and I'll bet there's more than a few hanging around their offices.
Hell, throw an ACORN employee ten bucks and see what they'll give you. (No STD jokes, please.)
I cannot wait to view all of those junk documents. I wonder if they will say the information was "stolen" from the dumpster, perhaps that is their filing system.
NATIONAL CITY MUNI CODE:
7.10.150 Scavenging prohibited.
No person, other than the owner thereof, or an employee of the city, or a person holding a contract with the city for the collection of garbage and refuse, shall interfere in any manner with any garbage or rubbish receptacle or the contents thereof, or remove any such receptacle from the location where the same was placed by the owner thereof, or remove any of the contents from any such receptacle. Prior to citing an individual for a violation of this section, a warning shall first be given.
(Ord. 1812 (part), 1984)
This should get interesting.
NATIONAL CITY MUNI CODE:
7.10.150 Scavenging prohibited.
No person, other than the owner thereof, or an employee of the city, or a person holding a contract with the city for the collection of garbage and refuse, shall interfere in any manner with any garbage or rubbish receptacle or the contents thereof, or remove any such receptacle from the location where the same was placed by the owner thereof, or remove any of the contents from any such receptacle. Prior to citing an individual for a violation of this section, a warning shall first be given.
(Ord. 1812 (part), 1984)
I foresee a court order demanding the return of every document and future use of said documents will lead to civil liability and punitive damages especially since use of said documents involve individuals not or no longer affiliated with ACORN. We've already scene unauthorized use of individual's identities who are no longer affiliated with ACON on this website.
" Naughty Zoot! Oh, naughty, naughty Zoot!" … "Oh naughty staff! Naughty, naughty staff."
……."We're the state that elected Ronald Reagan as Governor. "
Last week all of you Californuts were telling us to forgive you that past indiscretion, now you want to own it ?
You can't have your cake and eat it too .
Can you say scanner?
All you Rightwing Hatemonger Racist are funny !
The Chief Organizer POTUS will shut down all investigations and Pardon anyone that helped get him elected with
thousands of fake ballots.
You people should quit wasting your time and go help the community and help pass Obamacare.
If you have not figured out by now , you are the problem and Obama and Acorn are the answer .
/
/liberal thinking off======I feel icky now
So where's the COURT ORDER FROM HOLDER DEMANDING A FULL AND THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF ACORN!!!! THEY ARE STEALING FROM TAX PAYING AMERICANS TO FILL THE PROGRESSIVES POCKETS AND TO PROMOTE THEIR COMMUNIST AGENDA!!!!
THE MUNI CODE MEANS CR#P. THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA —- HOW'S THAT WORKING OUT???
ACORN=SEIU=BULLIES=THUGS=CORRUPT=SOROS=BHO
If our government officials can't do their job properly, then the American People will do it for them!!!
ACORN always the VICTIM!!!
"So where's the COURT ORDER FROM HOLDER DEMANDING A FULL AND THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF ACORN!!!! THEY ARE STEALING FROM TAX PAYING AMERICANS TO FILL THE PROGRESSIVES POCKETS AND TO PROMOTE THEIR COMMUNIST AGENDA!!!!" — Where is your proof?!?!?!? Just because opinion generators talked a bunch of obedient acolytes into regurgitating accusations doesn't make those accusations true. Obedient acolytes who would rather embrace talking points that indoctrinate some derangement syndrome then do the responsible thing and seek the freakin' truth or at least research the truth outside right-wing blankets. We live in America, NOT Iran…in this country, you need evidence, proof, facts that warrant investigations. In this country, we don't prosecute on obedient drones regurgitating the same talking points over and over and over again until they believe it's gospel. There are still intelligent people left in this country who believe in the Constitution and being presumed innocent until proven guilty unlike the Communists you so greatly mimic.
Sounds like something ACORN would be accused of doing. Thugs breaking laws to try to prove ACORN are thugs. Priceless isn't it? America is watching.
Yada yada yada…step up. Stop talking the schoolyard bully talk and get down to business. If not, stay the hell out of our way.
Post the documents online, please!!!!
Forget the muni code. Post them anonymously. Civil Disobedience? Not when our tax dollars have funded this atrocity.
Hey – question for everyone: are woodward and bernstein dead? They did a great hatchet job on Nixon for something relatively minor compared to the last 10 months (Ten, 12 years…or more).
No journalists with the guts to stand-up? Geez, a Pulitzer should be EASY with all the info from that since Jan 20!
why dose it have to be whitewashed?
someone check with masta holder, that might be racist.
lol…
"thousands of fake ballots"? Any proof or another talking point lie with no facts regurgitated by America's weakest minds? God strictly forbids that some people think for themselves. It is punishable by liberty and freedom and you wouldn't want to suffer that now would you. And people thought Communism was dead. lol
the only reason they are getting away with this crap,they are all connected to the dictaitor in our white house i said its our white houseand its time to get him the hell out of there. now!!!!!!
Communists? I thought the Right were all Facists?
"In this country, we don't prosecute on obedient drones regurgitating the same talking points over and over and over again until they believe it's gospel."
So as long as someone can claim, "I was just doing my job. I didn't know any better," they are beyond prosecution? Where is that in the Constitution?
So you get 'caught' and the first thing you do, Amy, is blame it on the person that caught you!!!
You Libs are all alike………………………………just a gang of thugs and liars!!! ACORN has got to be thoroughly investigated–every chapter in America–THOSE WHO ARE CORRUPT/BOTH ACORN AND POLITICIANS–STRAIGHT TO JAIL!!! ENOUGH OF ROBBING FROM THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS AND CITIZENRY!!!! AND ENOUGH WITH BUYING THE WHITE HOUSE!!!
THE BOUGHT THE WHITE HOUSE AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE–SENATE SEAT IN MINNESOTA?????
AND THESE PEOPLE VOTE!!!
DERRICK ROACH MAY BE AN UNSUCCESSFUL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR STATE REP BUT HE'S WAY SMARTER THAN ALL YOU LIARS AT ACORN!!!
They're admitting to violating California law by not notifying those whose information may have been leaked!
So, if a Fortune 500 company, or any other company, did this, would they be able to get away with "‘Oops, fall cleaning‘?
Our government is playing us for fools through distraction. Obama should not have the power to do illegal things.
hey acorn…youre garbage!
I hope that at every ACORN, SEIU office around the country there are diligent people watching the dumpsters. I suspect there will be more of this as time goes on. Moonbeam Brown is in this up to his eyeteeth. You know he tipped them off and they started the illegal dump. California is bankrupt in both money and morals. Throw the bums out! I was born in San Diego, still have family there but I can’t stand the politics. I’ve lived in Texas most of my life and we just think differently here, thank goodness.
[...] by Publius When reached for comment, Amy Schur of ACORN’s state office, explained why the paperwork was in the trash. “In early October, when our San Diego staff were doing an office clean-up in preparation for a major 10-station phone bank program …Read Original Story: California ACORN Responds to Revelation of Massive Doc Dump, Data Breach at … [...]
"So as long as someone can claim, "I was just doing my job. I didn't know any better," they are beyond prosecution? Where is that in the Constitution?" — Unless there is evidence to prove otherwise and convict beyond a reasonable doubt, that IS the Constitution.
Am I the only one who noticed that she ADMITTED she knew when the raid was going down?
DO NOT RESPOND TO SYNTAX GAME! HE/SHE/IT either works for ACORN or the DNC! NO matter what you say to this “it” they are in “total denial.” Pretend as though this “it” isn’t typing such buffoonery and isn’t even here! Arguing with “idiot” only makes you look like one as well!
[...] ACORN preserve all documents for the investigation, so that ACORN could not use the excuse of its document retention and destruction policies to destroy evidence, or ACORN ignored that [...]