The Debate on PelosiCare: This Isn’t Starting Well
by PubliusBut, we can’t say we’re surprised. Now that House leadership has committed itself to bringing the 2,000+ page bill to a vote, every tool and lever at their disposal will be used to get to 218. There is not a small percentage of the Democrat caucus who believes a vote for this bill is very close to political suicide. And their leadership will ask them to make that sacrifice, if for no other reason than they need the ‘win.’ Kind of like the British General Staff at the Somme.
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Well, hell, the PEOPLE SAY, "Re-electing you can not be done!" What a mess the Democrats have created!
Pelosi is puking .. I mean speaking …. God Help us all !!!!!
oh she brought up Ted "need a drink" Kennedy !!!!
We need to take it out on Democrats at every level. Make them like the Whigs, a party whose time has passed. (Although the Know Nothings is more appropriate.)
here we go – first africian american president – The dems pulled the RACE CARD !!!!!!
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I'm sorry but old geezer needs to go change his "depends" diapers and put another battery in his hearing aid. Better yet, just get the hell out because he is past being eligible to pound that gavel.
The ones who have read the bill, raise your hands. Yeah that's what I thought.
Doubtful there will be any unintended consequences.
Anyone know how this is even remotely Constitutional? If so I can craft a plan to sell all the government suicide clown cars, buy one or go to jail. Just think of the possibilities.
the "I's have it …. WTF !!!! – good call on the recorded vote becasue the I's did not have it !!!
that's what I say …. where are the lawyers ….
Cable news ratings – 11/5 – O’Reilly hits 5 Million !!!
http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/top-news/cable-news
There is an Air Force Airshow going on outside my windows and the planes are flying low enough to rattle my chest. Makes you proud to be an American. May God be with us in the fight, Patriots. God bless America and all who protect her.
Two F-15's just flew over my house – I love that sound !!!
Before this debates begins I would like to give a big shout out to Congressional Medal of Honor winner Dr. Joe Medicine Crow who actually did not win the Congressional Medal of Honor but the Medal of Freedom and then I will ramble incoherently on for a few minutes without my teleprompter.
When Pelosi spoke after B.O. left the meeting, she used the code "working families" as in Working Families Party for those who want Obama's free money
This is the "change" we voted for. Not much "hope" for a debate on this one if Mr. Gavel gets his way.
The tactics the democrats are using should be enough to sound the alarm even among those who might support this POS "healthcare reform act". Once this is passed, the Obama machine can concentrate on some truly restrictive legislation AKA "Cap and trade".
Obama: "We are going to fundamentally change America"………………we'll own the banks, GM, and virtually all medical, next we want to control the energy, you won't be driving unless we're riding.
sounds like freedom!
whats with the crypt keepers grandfather? i think hes pissed that someone woke him up.
This is beyond disgusting.
I blame the people of this country who continue to vote for these tyrants and demagogues, and for the matter the spineless and ideologically bankrupt Republicans who don't give a damn for anything but power and graft.
God help us.
Damn, Pelosi goes a week without botox and she's looking more rough than usual!
Seriously, this is disgusting.
Primarily because the media do not call them on their lies. They could care less.
God Save America and God save my beautiful Granddaughter . I am heatbroken this is what we have allowed to happen.
I have a health care solution. Let us remove the twin cancers that reside in Washington.
I already have my damned choice, and I have chosen to work and am employed and me and my family have very good coverage from doctors we trust.
The statist telling you they are working to provide you choice is code for enslavement.
We have a mission ahead of us people. We will prevail
the huge law firms wrote the bill, the poiticians are just props
Obuma didnt say it wouldnt be change for the worse so hes ok with it
making it more expensive to hire a worker is a really good way to create jobs, Obama=genius
you have a choic eto do what they say or go to jail, pisslosi logic
That's assuming that there will be any more hiring. Jobs saved and created; there may be some created in 2010 but not many saved in DC.
im surprised Obama dosent count jobs that might be created by somebody whos thinkin about starting a business, maybe
They keep using Medicare and Social Security as models of success, they've pulled the Kennedy card and have named all of the special interest groups set to make out like bandits on the backs of the taxpayers. The contradictions and sleazy manuevers they're using are epic.
if only the People would unite as one and refuse to pay any taxes whatsoever, what would the non-productive political class leeches do then?
Pelosi is asking democrats to choose between hara-kiri or smell her stench body odor this weekend. The wrath of taxpayers will come soon. Vote out all your democrats representatives. Deny them of benefitting on all these monstrosity.
I'm in. I know someone who didn't pay his taxes for the past 15 years. Then he decided to file this year and on top of it all he got over $5000 in refunds. No penalties.Nothing!!
Give'em hell Patti!
Get ready everyone, they’ll get something through, and we’ll tie it around their necks in 2010. I say haul ass left, easier to defeat an enemy that’s fully exposed. No more moderate horse squeeze, 2010, 2010…
Please join the conservative movement and keep Democrats and Reublicans who stray….honest:
http://www.teapartyexpress.org/
I see a bunch of unemployed Democrats in 2011. I wouldn't want to be Nancy Pelosi a year from now. 1st she'll get the wrath of the American public then she'll get the wrath of the Democrats who commited political suicide to follow this idiot into hell.
55 Trillion in unfounded mandates, nice job Washington. When the country collapses in their infinite stupidity, Washington politicians need to take the fall. If you’re in the political business don’t make long term plans.
I don't plan to do any work of any kind if they throw ME in jail…
I've never been a political prisoner before, but if they think I'm gonna bleed my cash to support this Obamanation, color me bright orange scrubs…
Being the parent of 5th generation Texans, I am still grieving over Ft. Hood. However, considering the treachery that is occuring in our nation's capitol as I write this post, I would like to engage BH commenters in a topic I have not seen really discussed regarding the ObamaCare debacle. This might be a bit long, but I think it is super important:
A member of the British Parliament, Daniel Hannan, said on Glenn Beck's program several months ago that the US absolutely MUST PREVENT the passage of the health care bill. He said the UK government health care system is the WORLD'S 3RD LARGEST EMPLOYER! That is WORLD'S, people! He said when that number of people vote as a group (in order to protect their govt jobs) they are impossible to defeat. Also, I have read that the UK was in desperate need of medical workers and allowed a huge influx of Muslims to fill the jobs. Look up Daniel Hannan on YouTube. He is a well-spoken, intelligent man trying to save his country and help us save ours. Get some talk going about these issues. I am well-read, and I haven't seen anyone else address these aspects of ObamaCare.
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i'm lining up with you guys!
Hey Blue Dogs… are you seriously willing to end your political career for Nancy Pelosi?
WHY?
What's in it for you… and your constituents? Hard to imagine why anyone would allow themselves to be hectored into taking-one-for-the-team and incurring the wrath of the nation… when this arrogant socialist twit wouldn't spit on you if your hair was on fire.
NOW is the time to KILL this pig- there's no future in backing Obama's radical plans anymore.
Vote for this highly unpopular bill at your peril… as SanFranNan will leave you twisting-in-the-wind next fall, of that you can be sure.
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com
They can say it with a straight face because they lack an important human trait….A soul…That would mean they are zombies …so…pass the ammo!
Just curious. Why are the people voting on this bill exempt from this bill?
Doesn't sound like a fair representation of the people at all.
They always do, now; at every single opening and even when there is no opening.
Obama and his presidency, have set race relations back more than 2 centuries.
half the country doesn't pay taxes that why they love it …. soon the people who are left will be broke too !!!
This is not good…. the GOP in the House is actually getting behind the Stupak amendment which prevents the funding of abortions with federal money. This will put the bitch's vote over the top. We need to find out who these traiterous bastards in the GOP are… They will be listed. As those of you familiar with the conference and legislative process….this funding of abortions WILL get back in the final bill…..post-conference. You are being scammed again….disgusting people our Congress. They look at you with disdain and disgust. If this happens the RELENTLESS PRESSURE on your Senators will be one of the last hopes for Constitutional adherence.
Wake up……
Interesting tactic; voted against the amendment so the blue dogs have no optiont but to vote against the final bill…
So how long is now that Ted Kennedy has been sober?
BOTOX
This bill won't add one penny to the deficit? What is that old coot smokin'? Watch the word parsing. It won't add one penny, but billions and billions of pennies, just like Bammy claimed he won't raise taxes on the middle class one dime. Instead, it's going to be billions and billions of dimes.
Or how about this one…it won't add to the deficit; it will greatly increase the debt instead. They're gutting Medicare Advantage and taking $500M from Medicare to balance this so-called $800+ billion bill in addition to taxing everyone right after the 2010 elections, according to NY Rep. Anthony Weiner (D), for insurance we won't see till at least 2013. Meanwhile, those of us who have health insurance will be paying our premiums and the added tax.
Because they think they're royalty and therefore deserve the best healthcare our tax dollars can buy them. So in addition to paying our own premiums and the extra tax from 2010 elections on until we get our own special brand of limited healthcare in 2013 from whatever doctors are left by that time, we'll be paying the taxes for gasbag Pelosi and everyone else in Congress, who get to choose from a bunch of plans starting at $45 per month with immediate service. We'll wait months for a doctor's appointment and possibly a year or two for an MRI.
The death panel was not only written into the healthcare bill, it's already passed in the stimulus bill and a panel of Bammy's kooky leftwing fringe kook pals are already in place.
Of all the unmitigated gall. This is nothing more than an abuse of power.
People of America, let the rebellion begin. These people in Washington ignored every voice but thier own. Now it's time to make sure they are only talking to themselves. The grassroots movement to reclaim America begins in 2010. It's time for us to load up the buses and turn out in record numbers. Now is not the time to be complacent. As a modern day Paul Revere would say "the liberals are comming".
Senior Citizens rise up! We hold a vast majority of votes. Cancel your membership in AARP now!