Wednesday Open Thread: Statue of Liberty Edition
by PubliusToday, in 1886, President Grover Cleveland dedicated the Statue of Liberty:
You know, back when we were hopeful about the future and welcomed immigrants…
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A Simple Proposal
I hereby propose the following as the 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution.
1. No citizen of the United States shall be elected to the House of Representatives to more than four (4) consecutive, two (2) year terms to office.
2. No citizen of the United States shall be elected to the United States Senate for more than two (2) consecutive, six (6) year terms of office.
3. No citizen of the United States shall receive any retirement benefits from serving in either the United States House of Representatives or the United States Senate.
4. Congress shall not exempt itself from any laws of the United States of America, in whole or in part.
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In 2011, to commemorate the 125 yr anniversary, will Obama have it renamed the "Statue of Tyranny"?
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I'd vote YEA….I might put a cap on how many lawyers could be allowed to serve at a time. Too bad the process would start with the self-serving morons now in office.
I haven't posted in a week or so because my son-in-law is now hwaded to Iraq and I have been busy with the 3 kids, but I have been reading, allot. I however see the need to post this link….http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=3200 If this story is true…then, well, just damn. What are we becoming?
I feel the biggest hijacking of reasonable debate in US politics in the last 10 years it that the liberals have somehow made it impossible to discuss the differences between LEGAL IMMIGRATION (which I whole heartedly support, it is how all my ancestors arrived here) and the scourge of illegal immigration which is destroying some parts of our union (as in nation, not labor unions – that is a whole different scourge) and our systems.
There is a HUGE difference between the two, but in today's rhetoric anti-ILLEGAL immigration is anti-immigration.
Our good lady weeps over this injustice.
David
You forgot to add
5. No citizen of the United States shall serve for more than a total of 20 years combined in any elected or appointed Federal position.
If you server on any political post you cannot nor be involved in any sort of lobbying.
I think if you did add these then true Americians may stand up instead of the leaches that are there now…
So true on pensions !!! NONE !!! ZERO !!!! Save like we have too !!!!
Gary_K,
I am in tears and sick to my stomach at thsi post.
Good God I hope this is somehow not true… I will have to do further research.
David
PS – God bless your son-in-law. His service to his country (and to me & my family) is HUGELY appreciated. God bless you for supporting him.
I will not be shocked to hear the group controlling Washington will mandate covering the Statue of Liberty because it offends some group.
I agree with Rich Vail. Throw them all out and sooner the better.
THE GAUNTLET THROWN DOWN
http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/2009/10/28/... is_inside_the_perimeter!.thtml
Team Obama and TEAM UN, working to screw us over.
Check it out.
The Anti Liberal Zone
"Political contributions" shall forever be called what they really are…. POLITCAL BRIBES !
David Montgomery – October 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
I feel the biggest hijacking of reasonable debate in US politics in the last 10 years it that the liberals have somehow made it impossible to discuss the differences between LEGAL IMMIGRATION (which I whole heartedly support, it is how all my ancestors arrived here) and the scourge of illegal immigration which is destroying some parts of our union (as in nation, not labor unions – that is a whole different scourge) and our systems.
There is a HUGE difference between the two, but in today’s rhetoric anti-ILLEGAL immigration is anti-immigration.
Our good lady weeps over this injustice.
David
..I believe David’s said it well and accurately..
..add in the legal mess occurring in SF over ‘rights’ of illegals..
when did breaking the law become a legal right..when did legal residents lives become secondary to law breakers..those are questions I’m still waiting to hear answered..
I can go along with that, but on 3 I would say that the contributions to any retirement fund that were in place at the time of entering service would continue. We don't want good people not to have a retirement fund. It is time for term limits but good luck getting that passed.
That or the Statue of Social Justice.
No he will have replaced it with his statue, have you seen the ego on that guy?
I heard Obama is going to replace the Statue of Liberty with a Statue of Mohammed holding the quran.
Statue of Liberty, eh?
As our liberties are stolen from US, one at a time, one day at a time, that Statue stands weeping in New York Harbor. Rumor is they are going to tear it down, and melt it sown for scrap. In it's place, they will erect a plastic one of Obama. Rather tha the old motto:"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door." it will be replaced. The new motto will be " Gibe me your wallet, your watch, your jewelry and all your cash."
Oh my God! There is no reason to believe that article is lying. The site is very legitimate and has produced a lot of good information for a fair amount of time. What we have become, and worse what we will be is frightening and sickening. We let our soldiers who protect us being treated this way while reading miranda's rights to Guantanamo detainees, bringing them to the state to try them as if they had a speeding ticket.
I am sick to think of it. Thank you for the link.
Sounds about right….. Pure Chicago ghetto mentality !
I am an immigrant and I wholeheartedly agree with you. I went through the normal process. Damn it get in line and wait your turn if you want to come here. I have never felt that those who want legal immigration were against me as an immigrant.
There is a distortion of just about everything nowadays. Look the case of a 5 year old kissing a girl at school is labeled a sexual harassment, and not liking the gvt policies is called racism.
Lady Liberty: Just another symbol of American imperialism to Obama and his ilk.
Fantastic picture of the Statue of Liberty. Breathtaking!
as to 1 and 2 , my argument against term limits is we already have them its called democracy. The other problem with term limits is what about a politician that actually does a good job, why should the People be denied the right to keep them in office.
freedom means I get some free stuff from the govt., right?
Elected officials must maintain and inhabit a residence within the community that they represent. When their duties do not require them to be in Washington DC or their state's capital, they must live in their district, under the laws they have created.
In laymans' terms: New York senators can not split their time between DC and Orlando, FL. At least 70% of their time must be spent in New York.
From Paine's Common Sense: and that the elected might never form to themselves an interest separate from the electors, prudence will point out the propriety of having elections often; because as the elected might by that means return and mix again with the general body of the electors in a few months, their fidelity to the public will be secured by the prudent reflection of not making a rod for themselves. And as this frequent interchange will establish a common interest with every part of the community, they will mutually and naturally support each other, and on this (not on the unmeaning name of king) depends the strength of government, and the happiness of the governed.
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The “Statue of Liberty” is pure racism, it’s a white women, and must be changed. I think Barry should have it torn down , and replace with an Indian …woops… Native American, flipping off all comers. Or maybe change the motif with a group of liberal victims, PWTs, Blacks, Latinos, Gays, Asians, Indians, you get the point — holding hands dancing around Lady Liberty laughing, change the torch to the power to the people fist. The slogan can read, “Give us your lazy, your poooor, worthless masses, those yearning to be wards of the state.” Oh, you’d need horns coming out of her head, and a pointed tail.
Absolutely. My wife immigrated here legally, and is now a US Citizen. That there is even a debate about illegal immigration pisses her off.
Amnesty for illegals is tantamount to ahvign a huge line out the door for the WiiStation 360. The line curves around the block, and people have been waiting outside the door since the store closed the night before. The people in line have cash in hand, ready to buy their brand new console. Then, the doors open, some people who just showed up push and shove their way into the door, yank the consoles off the shelf, and walk out. The store clerks sit by and allow it. Some even say, "Thank you for choosing Best Games! Please come again." More line breakers show up, and get the console for free. Everyone who waited in line–they pay full price.
People wouldn't accept this behavior at their grocery store. Why do people accept it with their nation?
Yes.
Milk, butter, cheese, cars, cellphones………..
You did hear about the free welfare government cellphones, didn't you? it is not a joke. it is real. It is the largest user of cell minutes in the world. Every disadvantaged person on welfare is now entitled to a free phone.
shes racist cause shes 1/2 black yet says shes white, whoops…obamas 1/2 white, raised by his white grandmother yet he says hes black, hmmm hmmm hmmm
Anyone seen his about the illegals? Even our own Rep's called it a POS
http://tinyurl.com/lu3w8n
There was a time when immigrants were welcomed. But, in this day&age of freebies for immigrants -it doesn't set well with the American public. My grandparents were immigrants, and they were NOT catered too! They did NOT get tax free status for 7 years. They were NOT given a "boatload" of freebies! They were required to speak &learn English. They did NOT have a choice on the phone-what language you want to speak in or hear! Everything they attained asset wise, they worked for. That was the AMERICAN WAY! We are the "laugh" of ALL other countries who use our systems of free education and benefits for immigrants. If ANY AMERICAN, were to immigrate to ANY other country we would NOT be catered to like OUR GOVERNMENT officials cater to today's immigrants. This "catering too," costs AMERICAN taxpayers money -and WE still are the AMERICAN PIG!
Good report from across the pond!
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/10...
One problem is the re-drawing of district lines to keep themselves in office.
I miss a LOT of things about not working in Manhattan anymore, but very few about not living in Hoboken now. One of the very few things I DO miss about New Jersey, is seeing Lady Liberty so often. I don't think I ever just glazed over when the statue was in sight, rather, I always lingered on the visage for a bit. The most iconic of all American icons.
Oh, and thank you France!
The funny thing is Cowboy if you or I ever fall on hard time guess what we get…jack squat, and thats the troooth
Thank you !
This is his third tour in Iraq, he was there on site when the Statue of Sadam was pulled down. He is a single parent so it has been difficult for him and the kids.
God bless our troops, bring them all home safely.
Liberty,
It wasn't a joke. It was true.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1628...
Truthfully, what you wrote above is so true. I started out with nothing. Further and beyond that, I started out with less than nothing, on the wrong side of the tracks. I have gone without, and gone through some hard times, as we all have, but never in my life have I accepted a handout. Never taken charity or anything free from the government. The concept of FREE is misleading. Someone, somewhere has to pay for the free merchandise. Just because someone gets something for free, does not mean that someone, somewhere, sometime along the food chain has paid a price for it. The whole concept is beyond my comprehension………….!
Let's get the Constitutional Convention thing going, because this will never get 2/3 support in Congress.
Yes but the French made the Statue of Liberty so that makes it at least half socialist, right? Obama can appreciate that half…
It seems as though the statue resembles a caucasion…that is unacceptable in todays PC enviroment….she needs black face, and to be renamed obama mama baby mama. Now, thats the NEW america. By the way, in another 10 years, she's gonna need a burka.
We have alot in common my friend. I agree with President Regan when he spoke about people who do need help, but people that game the system I hold in utter contempt! I met a woman on the street during a work break and she was telling me about her govt. phone, she was sweet and you could tell she needed the help, ya know hard times for some people that cant provide for themselves.
Term limits would be our insurance policy. All too often these politicians, not unlike Obama is doing now, spend their entire terms campaigning and fund raising, giving them a distinct advantage over their challengers. We can still have democracy without giving these politicians the benefit of the doubt. The reason our government has been corrupted is because they have had time to make it so. Without time to get comfortable these politicians will be more likely to apply themselves to the task at hand and put less focus on trying to secure their positions.
It's called disambiguation and they thrive on it. For them gray areas offer the same solitude as the shadows. This is where they operate. This is where they dwell. Nothing is sacred to them because they only believe in themselves. They want only for themselves. If they offer you something you can count on their being strings attached. They can see nothing beyond what is filtered through their prism of self. These are the people who, as children, would alienate others if they didn't play according to their rules. And still do. Now we have entire generations of these people who without proper guidance and discipline have also adopted the "it's all about me" syndrome. When they vote they think only about what's in it for them. They are not concerned for their children and are so self centered they would, and are, selling their children into servitude for a portion of the fruits of another persons labor.
Remember the big spender dosent always win
It's time to take thois great country back folks. One way or another before we are totally destroyed by this userper and infidel. My heart weeps for the people who built this country and we have beed so apathetic in it's destruction.
Agree on term limits. However, I would like to see the Constitution amended so both senators/reps have 4 year terms and be limited to a total of 8 years. No retirement, no lifelong healthcare, etc.
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