Weekend Open Thread
by Publius“Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”

Some things are more important than prizes. See you in the comments.
“Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”

Some things are more important than prizes. See you in the comments.
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Tags: Berlin Wall, Brandenburg Gate, Nobel Peace Prize, Ronald Reagan
Posted Oct 10th 2009 at 5:13 am in Culture |
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Well, the fact that Obama as well as other America haters, some of whom were dictators supporting violence or terrorism, who havereceived this award makes the Nobel Peace Prize pretty much meaningless.
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glennbeck RT @JackieBubis: @glennbeck I’d have nominated Obama for the Nobel Appease Prize. FUNNY.
Those who really make peace — Reagan, Eisenhower, the crew of the Enola Gay, even Nixon — and those who help keep most of the world at peace, and liberate millions of people from Tyranny — the US Military, George Bush — would NEVER get this “peace” prize. Only these phonies.
When I am reminded of that day, I am filled with patriotic pride.
Wow! After yesterday's prize award, I could stand to feel that pride a little more often.
Thanks for the reminder of what we must fight for.
Ronald Reagan left a lasting legacy.
George Bush left a lasting legacy; we hear about it every day from the left: Obama lost the Olympics because of Bush, Obama was awarded the Nobel Prize because he wasn’t Bush
Today we hear from the DNC that those on the right unsupportive of The Obama are compared to Terrorist Taliban and Hamas. I thought the left had outlawed the use of the word “terrorist”? Except only in cases where it inures to their warped and twisted benefit.
In his eight years in office Ronald Reagan changed the world; in his eight short months in office Obama changed the Country, and the world will never be the same again.
Reagan: “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
Obama: "Hey, Mickey, nice wall. Really works too, doesn't it? I'll have Yosi and Buffy give you some ideas on how to decorate it."
They must have used communist definition of "Peace": Furtherance of the Socialist/Communist goals.
You have said the sad truth, we all are in big trouble. Change we all can suffer with. Thanks NO-Bama.
Machavelli said its better to be feared than loved because people who "love" you are more likely to screw you over, but people who fear you are a less likely to cross you. I guess Obama never read "The Prince". Weak minded liberals make me wretch!
Your last paragraph is brilliant!
If you look at who gets the Nobel Prize…Obama is a perfect candidate. Far left of left, and a progressive's progressive.
The prize derived from gunpowder has been hijacked from it's original intent almost one hundred years ago.
As long as we all know it is a far left device, what is the problem.
If the peace prize actually meant something (today), that would be a problem.
I'm kind of glad this Nobel Peace Prize went down this way to tell you the truth. For one thing it has caused the American people as well as the World to be reminded that now as before, even almost a year into his presidency, Obama has no notable achievments. His is still promising, still talking and yet, not producing. Also, it de-values the prize and I'm the happier for it. Who decided that this group in Norway would be the all deciding factor on who is the epitomy of peace in the world? For one thing, as this has shown again, we in America have different views in how we function from day to day. We are not European in our values and democracy. We are still fighting for that independence that our forefathers fought for centuries ago. I
Also, I think in the end this will help show that Obama is all about the praise and not the purpose of his position. How on earth will he honor our troups efforts these many years in Afgh. by sending in more troops after getting this prize? He can't and still seem to deserve it. If he gives up on our efforts there because of this pomp, then he proves that he is a superficial president and this country is in for a scarey ride.
It is an amazing new Bizzaro World we now live in. I, like many Americans am conflicted.
The adult in me is afraid to turn on the TV or the radio, or look at any online news in the mornings for fear of what new Government program or Socialist Agenda has been advanced upon US throughout the night. I totally expect some day in the not too distant future that when I turn the TV on, there will be simply be a still photo of The Obama on every channel, with state sponsored muzak and a caption which reads "Stay tuned, newz tomorrow……"
On the other hand, the eight year old boy still inside me can't wait to get up in the morning. Every day now is like Christmas morning. I simply can't wait to hear the newz, get online and see what imbecilic headlines await. Hope and Change? Hope and Change we can believe in? Obama is the gift that keeps on giving, and he never ceases to amaze US. He is the gift that keeps on giving
My husband is from Germany, immigrated with his parents as a young boy. Every time I see this video my eyes fill with tears of pride and joy. This is what being a great American President is all about. I wish Obama would channel some of those ideals. Instead we get the "America is hopeless and wrong" rhetoric. It is no wonder to me that the sitting POTUS is viewed with such disdain . We are just sick and tired of his apologetics and non-achievments.
Global politics is just a larger version of politics we see here in the US. Liberals (and RHINOs) undermine the free market system , insert regulations to payoff groups and push their own warped agendas and then when their interference causes massive displacement in the free market scream from the rooftops about how free markets are the problem.
In the same way global liberal elites sit back and allow great commanders-in-chief like Reagan and George W protect their asses from evil dictators and then scream from the roof tops (or with handing over the Nobel Peace Prize to a weak commander in chief) about how the ones who keep them free are ones that are the cause of all the problems in the world.
While the US soldier fights real evil in the world–they are secretly wetting their pants while denouncing strength–they just wish they had one ounce of the greatness of a man like Reagan. They are really nothing but cowards.
Although we get the "America is hopeless and wrong" rhetoric, fundamentally we all know that is not so. Fundamentally America is still a wonderful country, and her people are essentially good and decent. What is hopeless and wrong, is Barack Obama.
THEY are considering a 2nd "stimulus". Here's an idea or two….how about repeal the 1st "stimulus" and revamp it to include tax cuts and loans to small businesses OR use the remainder of the 1st "stimulus" to affect job creation. Are the IDIOTS in congress claiming the 1st "stimulus" did not work and they need a 2nd? If so, why would they think a 2nd "stimulus" would work? There will be considerably more resistance to the 2nd "stimulus" than the 1st.
Having this guy as president just makes me sad. He hates the country I have lived in my entire life. He hates people who call themselves conservatives. I have a feeling this guy would rater me and people like me just die off.
All these years of paying taxes, paying my bills and doing things honestly and this is what I get for thanks. A government full of people who hate my guts. Nice.
I agree! I'm excited AND scared to hear/read the news every morning. It's like we're living in some kind of parallel universe now. Opposite World.
Incredible photo, incredible man. How far down we have come in twenty short tears, …wow!
Anyone else having trouble logging on?
Yes.
It appears there are a lot of technical glitches here in the last 24 hrs. Sure hope it isn't bugs……..
George Marshall (General) did win the Peace Prize in 1953 — sometimes they do get it right — but not for a long time.
It also exposes the fraudulence of the whole Nobel Prize nonsense. From this day forward the NPP means absoutely NOTHING.
ur forgetting obama beet a war hero with a lot of experience where is a disconnect somewhere and yes now obama gets the oxymoron prize the fight should be for our young peoples HARTS AND MINDS not against the madeoff in the WHITE HOUSE
Obama's Nobel is perfect. It emitomizes everything about his presidency. Only the far left base views this as a legitimate reason to celebrate Obama. The rest? We'll see in 2010 and 2012, but the political slingshot seems to be getting tighter and tighter and it's aimed in the direction of tradditional conservatism.
As I read elsewhere, Obama is becoming like Carter faster than Carter became like Carter.
Hmmm.. okay, thanks.
I truly miss Ronald Reagan.
What happened to Global Warming?
The BBC has an interesting perspective:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079...
Someone on the left better alert the idiot Al Gore. His theseis is crumbling.
Didn't he win a Nobel Prize for some sort of junk science…………………..?
WE NOW ENTER THE ERA OF PINEWOOD DERBY NOBELS:
When I was a Cubmaster, we used to make sure that every boy who brought a race car to the Pinewood Derby Races got some kind of award.
As I read all the BS about why Dear Leader deserves his, I experience deja vu about what I said about each boy as we presented his individual award.
There is a big difference, however. Each boy actually did something to merit getting his award. He (almost always with Dad's help) carved a race car out of a block of pine wood, which is far more than His Most Excellent Personage has done for his alleged country.
I agree. The only problem with him receiving the prize is that now he thinks he has been affirmed and can do no wrong. I know this was already his mindset but this is just hard core positive reinforcement. We are in deep Do Do.
Peace is not the absence of conflict, it is the ability to win the conflict.
Yep – and when Fidel Castro approves, we know it's whack.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091010/twl-obama-ba...
Someone who is puffed up to be The Messiah isn't going to settle for the rules for a Prince.
My inner eight year old girl keep hoping that with Obama we have reached the reductio ad absurdum of celebrity politics. My inner adult reminds her to be careful what you wish for – it could be worse. Nancy Pelosi could be President.
I agree. That last paragraph is strong stuff. It resonates with truth and pithiness.
Nobel committee just threw itself under the bus …..The award now mean so much less ….
Prya ahrd this weekend our President will se the light soon…. Pakistan is on the verge of takeover…..
Well he wanted to be treated equal in the world – I think we are one step above Lybia now….
We were such a proud nation…. once…
The Conservative movement better get organized and get a plan. The "cereal box" prize is meaningless. All the socialists did was flip us the finger and the jesture probably paid for by Soros and Co. I think Huckabee was right. We have to stop whining about all the small stuff and focus on the main objective: monetary control of this country and ultimately, total control of it's people.
The socialists have been planning this for decades and we have been blindsided. The healthcare bill, the cap and trade are all necessary beginnings for them to achieve their goals. This will be only the tip of the iceberg, so lets get rolling and make sure that 2010 counts in the polling booths. Otherwise, the people of Honduras will be sending us "instructions" on how to liberate ourselves.
Original sin started when Lucifer thought, "I can do better than God!" NOW, isn't that what the liberals with all their global climate plans are doing?…thinking, "We can do better than God!" Might be safer to leave God alone to control the climate…let's just be good stewards of the planet He has given us to live on.
The Canadian Free Press has a satirical sense of humor:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1563...
If you look at the photo in the article, it is a photo of Nobel Peace Prize winner Barrack Obama, placing the Presidential Medal of Freedom on what appears to be an old man. That old man is Joseph Medicine Crow High Bird, last War Chief of the Crow Nation.
He lives at Crow Agency, Montana, and is a scholar, historian, lecturer and was a Warrior. He was the first Crow to ever attend college, and he has addressed the United Nations.
I wonder if the folks at Canadian Free Press knew the signifigance of the photo?
The Canadian Free Press has a satirical sense of humor:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1563...
If you look at the photo in the article, it is a photo of Nobel Peace Prize winner Barrack Obama, placing the Presidential Medal of Freedom on what appears to be an old man. That old man is Joseph Medicine Crow High Bird, last War Chief of the Crow Nation.
He lives at Crow Agency, Montana, and is a scholar, historian, lecturer and was a Warrior. He was the first Crow to ever attend college, and he has addressed the United Nations.
I wonder if the folks at Canadian Free Press knew the signifigance of the photo?
Well at least with Nancy as president, we'd know it would all be a joke.
Yes, and he beat out a Polish woman that saved over 2500 jewish children in WWII.
BINGO!
BINGO! And 'peace of mind' is an oxymoron. Actualy peace of mind is the "undermining", the under-standing of the mind.
BINGO! And 'peace of mind' is an oxymoron. Actual peace of mind is the "undermining", the under-standing of the mind.
I am really not surprised that this “joke” of a president, got this award. First of all, with liberal mainstream media only telling/printing what they want us to know. Second of all, any corruption that is brought to the publics attention is usually squashed by liberal mainstream media. Acorn, point in case. The left is doing their darndest to make “lite” of their CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. Third of all, the Nobel Peace Award does NOT hold any creedance. If it did, it certainly would NOT have been given to some of those that have received it. GOD BLESS AMERICA, and those who are willing to stand up and fight for our freedoms.
No. Huckabee wrong. What he calls "whining" is "understanding" brought forth!! Huckabee is really not much different from Obama, he's always out to "appease", "make-nice". Screw that! This is WAR!
No. Huckabee is wrong. What he calls "whining" is "understanding" brought forth!! Huckabee is really not much different from Obama, he's always out to "appease", "make-nice". Screw that! This is WAR!
No. Huckabee is wrong. What he calls "whining" is "understanding" brought forth!! Huckabee is really not much different from Obama, he's always out to "appease", "make-nice". Screw that! This is WAR! Huckabee is just another narcissist wannabe.
The thing about global warming, is that, even if it is true, that it's man-made, by the time that it could actually do any damage, the creativity of technology will have solved it.
It only takes one!
One honest, forthright and dedicated person can bring America back to its roots.
How?
Take an HONEST oath to reject all forms of corruption and expose those politicians who are involved in corruption. (Because this person is human…they will have violated the rules already) We will never find a perfect person but there must be one who is sick and tired of the corruption within their own political party and within their own organization and determine to stop it.
Take an HONEST oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. I stress “HONEST” because they have already taken that oath, but have not upheld it HONESTLY.
This person will probably have to already be a leader within their party in order to get attention and support to get this started. Maybe Sarah Palin could be the one. Maybe Devin Nunes, Representative from California could be the one. Maybe Mitt Romney could be the one. Somebody can do it…we just have to find them and support them.
This person should have Judeo/Christian values, but they do not have to be a blazing born-again Bible thumper…in fact probably should not be such. We are a Christian nation but each individual’s relationship with God is private and is their relationship based on their experiences and choices. We are tired of the public outcry about where the Ten Commandments are posted or where prayers are said. Let each individual worship as they understand. No restrictions…no requirements.
Maybe we need a “grace period” during which the “confessions” will not be prosecuted. After a certain date the exposure will become public and all of America will become aware of who they are and what corruption they have done. I believe the American people are forgiving, but we are fed up with these corrupt politicians and their devious ways going on day after day.
Now, let’s go find one person to lead in this reformation!
Do any of you guys/gals ever post on Digg?
http://digg.com/
I post there now and again and I get completely over-run.
I post anti-obama messages there and my account will be deleted within a few hours.
I'm currently posting there as 'walt01'.
Please help me stand strong in enemy territory!
I agree about Huckabee and his coom-ba-ya attitude. My point was that all these things like the "prize" is a dstraction from what really happening behind the scenes. Like obama stoppping drilling in Utah on 60 sites because he doesn't want this country energy independent. THIS to me is more important to our country's future.
I lived in Berlin in the 1970's (my father was in the Army) and he took me to the wall (I was 10 years old) and tried to use the presence of that monstrosity to teach me about Freedom. I understood, on a basic educational level, but it wasn't until much later that I got the full measure of what my father was trying to teach me. I watched Mr. Reagan give that speech, and then I watched the wall come down. That was the first time I truly understood what "Proud to be an American" means, and how it important it was that we stand up for Freedom, not just for ourselves but for the whole world.
I have always been in awe of Mr. Reagan, and the men and women of our military. Freedom isn't free and cannot be purchased with empty rhetoric and a snazzy suit.
That said, think about the fabulous Halloween costume idea those Nobel guys have given us here! Imagine Barack Obama, dressed up as the Joker with a Nobel Prize hanging around his neck. Priceless! I'm pulling it together now for a party next weekend:
* Power suit – check
* Power tie – check
* Overcoat – check
* Black gloves – check
* Nobel Peace Prize – check (I'll print one out and glue it to cardboard)
* Obama Joker Mask – check (found one on Amazon)
Now if I can only figure out how to rig a couple teleprompters to follow me around, I'll be all set!
No matter what anyone thinks of the Kennedy clan, (myself included) this is what JFK said: “There exists in this country a plot to enslave every man, woman, and child. Before I leave this high and noble office I intend to expose this plot!” Reagan would have agreed with JFK.
Which ulitmately leads to this quote:
"I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.” – ACLU founder Roger Baldwin
Get rid of the unions, the Federal Reserve and this country might become what the Founders Fathers origianally intended for it to be.
No matter what anyone thinks of the Kennedy clan, (myself included) this is what JFK said: “There exists in this country a plot to enslave every man, woman, and child. Before I leave this high and noble office I intend to expose this plot!” Reagan would have agreed with JFK.
Which ulitmately leads to this quote:
"I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.” – ACLU founder Roger Baldwin
Get rid of the unions, the Federal Reserve and this country might become what the Founders Fathers originally intended for it to be.
ok, my comments and replies have disappeared…hmmmm.
Yes, but the thing is you cannot argue issues with liberals, because they always fall back and stand in their self-righteousness, do-gooderness. Instead you have to expose, undermine their self-rigtheous mindset in the first place. You can argue issues from now till the cows come home, and it will go nowhere but a standoff – just like in congress – they end up saying, "we agree to disagree". That goes nowhere and nothing is ever acheived.
Yes, but the thing is you cannot argue issues with liberals, because they always fall back and stand in their self-righteousness, do-gooderness. Instead you have to expose, undermine their self-rigtheous mindset in the first place. You can argue issues from now till the cows come home, and it will go nowhere but a standoff – just like in congress – they end up saying, "we agree to disagree". That goes nowhere and nothing is ever acheived. Their underlying "insanity", their underlying emotional problem must be exposed, that is the only way to win this war!
While discussing with my husband the fact that Clinton had been left out of the party, he said "well, it's the Nobel Peace Prize, not the Nobel Piece of A** Prize."
LOL!! More!
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I've contacted my parish priest and have inquired about the process for beatification and subsequent canonization so we can follow up on the Nobel with the next major award: Sainthood. After all, it's only right that we recognize his massive resume of good works. One of the prerequisites for sainthood is verification of at least three miracles in his name. He has, in fact, performed something that could be described as a miracle by getting elected on a platform and a background that went totally unexamined by a normally almost criminally-intrusive MSM.
St. Barack, patron saint of hustlers. Perhaps something else?
I was a Docent at the RRPL/M in Simi Valley, CA when President Reagan passed away. Even my liberal neighbors were lined up (some all night long) to pay their respects to him. A GREAT man.
It's almost as if there are more communists today then there were in 1987…
I was thinking along the same lines. The answer to this question should be quite revealing: Would you rather be a person who secured billions of dollars for combating AIDS in Africa and be reviled and hated, or be an unaccomplished noob with the Nobel Peace Prize?
At least more in the leadership of the United States!
(Posted this on Big Hollywood too)
OK, OK…BHO/Nobel-bashing should conclude now.
The Nobel Committee has succeeded temporarily in getting us to take our eye off the ball.
Time to forget this Nobel farce and get back to what really matters: Stopping our Congressunits from destroying our economy and forcing us into socialized medicine, giving Afghanistan back to the Taliban, burdening our children with "Cap and Trade," and letting ACORN and the other Mafia families take over our country.
Back to work, people!
Would that not be a "stretch" ? Pardon the pun…..
Voters Turn Negative On All Political Labels Except Reagan.
Voters Turn Negative On All Political Labels Except Reagan.
From Rasmussen about a month ago:
Voters Turn Negative On All Political Labels Except Reagan.
“Liberal” is still the worst and remains the only political description that is viewed more negatively than positively. Being like Reagan is still the most positive thing you can say about a candidate.
I swell with pride when I think back upon the days of President Reagan. He was a humble yet STRONG man devoted to worldwide freedom and the respect for the Constitution of the United States.
To witness this current weak, indifferent, limp-wristed, freedom shattering moronic excuse for an American president makes me want to slap those minority and progressive group leaders who (more than likely) illegally got this incompetent imbecile elected.
There is no comparison to the depth and integrity of President Reagan versus this socialist leader who trashes the very results brought about by President Reagan. Tie their hands in 2010… it's our last chance.
I weep for our great nation !
I swell with pride when I think back upon the days of President Reagan. He was a humble yet STRONG man devoted to worldwide freedom and respect for the Constitution of the United States.
To witness this current weak, indifferent, limp-wristed, freedom shattering moronic excuse for an American president makes me want to slap those minority and progressive group leaders who (more than likely) illegally got this incompetent imbecile elected.
There is no comparison to the depth and integrity of President Reagan versus this socialist leader who trashes the very results brought about by President Reagan. Tie their hands in 2010… it's our last chance.
I weep for our great nation !
What a GREAT President and Man. He was my Commander in Chief when I was on Active duty. Great man.
I've missed Ronald Reagan since the day he left office, but I've never missed him more than I do now.
Ronald Reagan and the passage of time proved the left wrong in just about everything. Yet the leftists still cling to these disproved ideas.
We need another Ronald Reagan desperately.
"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph."
Thomas Paine 1778
Never more true that right at this moment.
I'm definitely going to resist it. Our small business has got zero but more taxes and regs.
Thank you for your service…. I am so concerned about the current boots all over the world protecting a particular country from insurgencies when our Obamabufoon acts in a cowardly fashion. It will cost United States blood…..and, if so, ObamaCrap will be rendered useless….or better yet…..heh..heh..heh…
Hang in there and be safe, men and women who serve real Americans. We love you all (unlike our disgusting president who thinks you are pawns for political gain) !
Very well articulated and quoted. Thank you…
Read it (?)…………..I doubt that barry has even heard of "THE PRINCE" or Machavelli !
"I miss voting for that man…"
Hank Hill, King of the Hill
Me, too, Hank…
No, far worse than that……2 steps above Zimbabwe, with those steps soon to fall.
Caught this on the UK Times website:
Rocco Tool wrote:
In a similar vein, the NFL has awarded the Super Bowl to the Detroit Lions. They praised their "extraordinary efforts in trying to win games" and decided to award them with the title for 2010. The coach said it was an affirmation on behalf of all the teams.
Covers it rather neatly, don't you think?
Huckabee is just another snake oil salesman, with pretensions of grandeur and brains.
He's but one 1/2 steps above Bill Clinton ( no sexual stains on him….yet ); a damned RINO wrapped in Elmer Gantryish religiosity.
Forget Mitt Romney………………..he's not "honest" and has less charisma and abilities than his 20th century predecessor, "THE LITTLE MAN ON TOP OF THE WEDDING CAKE"……Governor Tom Dewey.
I joined DIGG more than a year ago and gave up after a day there. It's as KOOK filled and lefty as DU and HuffPo.
And hell YES……….it IS 'enemy territory !
What a sweetheart, you are! If I were single….
Both Jack and Bobby were rabid anti-Communists; unlike fat Teddy "THE SWIMMER". While in Congress Jack and Nixon were pals and worked on the same anti-Commie committee.
And Bobby went after the UNIONS, whom papa Joe had employed to help get JKF elected, which made them and their bosses angry as a wet hen. Ditto re the Mafia.
Both Jack and Bobby were rabid anti-Communists; unlike fat Teddy "THE SWIMMER". While in Congress Jack and Nixon were pals and worked on the same anti-Commie committee.
And Bobby went after the UNIONS, whom papa Joe had employed to help get JFK elected, which made them and their bosses angry as a wet hen. Ditto re the Mafia.
Soon the discussions at these Tea Parties need to focus on who will lead us in 2012. We need to look at who is IN and who is OUT
Obama, the MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, has ALWAYS had everything handed to him on a silver platter! He got into Ivy League colleges through all kinds of pull and AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. He got to be president of the Harvard Law Review through AA, got a summer internship at a white shoe law firm the same way, elected to ALL of his political positions through FRAUD and AA, and now, got the NPP for the reason! This empty suit has NEVER done even one thing, all by himself/worked hard through the vicissitudes of life to gain him what he got through others and the color of his skin.
Heck, even his wife was picked out and thrust upon him !
Fast forward to today where we have a President apologizing for this past and I have a Congresswoman like Rep. McCollum and two Senators like Klobuchar and Stuart Smalley. What happened???
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
Ronald Reagan
I'm sure President Reagan is rolling over in his grave with the state of affairs in our country right now.
I wouldn't go so far as to say he's done nothing. He's doing a good job of carving the heart of the country away 'till eventually we'll end up with a broken pinewood derby car. Then "Dad" will have to come in and clean up the mess left. Not sure if the car will be salvageable
Here is a true peacemaker. He ended the Cold War – a war between the two world super-powers, a war between two wealthy nations with nuclear weapons. And he did this without one bullet being fired or one casualty.
Many of his decisions were passionately criticized and seen as irrational, but he made them from his conscience. He made decisions based his personal understanding of right and wrong, not by being a moral relativist or a pacifist. They were not based on what the public or the world thought of him.
I grew up during his presidency and I never learned even one song about the President Ronald Reagan, mmm, mmm, mmm.
What this man accomplished in the pursuit of freedom for many nations will span generations of history. He will always be revered by real Americans for his undying and committed efforts toward freeing people from tyranny. Truly a great American. I am so proud to have lived during those times. You will always be remembered, President Reagan.
And look what we have now….. Sheer disgust !
Dutch Reagan believed he won the Nobel Prize three times and the Academy Award twice.
Perhaps Mr.. Obama can earn himself a Girl Scout Merit Badge if he announces his intention to (in his trademark eloquent terms of course) buy numerous boxes of Thin mints and S'mores and instruct his staff to do the same< thereby stimulating the economy as well.
If you look at who gets the Nobel Prize…Obama is a perfect candidate. Far left of left, and a progressive's progressive.
The prize derived from gunpowder has been hijacked from it's original intent almost one hundred years ago.
As long as we all know it is a far left device of propaganda, what is the problem? The prize has lost it's true meaning.
If the peace prize actually meant something (today), that would be a problem.
I will never forget when Reagan went to negotiate with the Russians and after a few hours he got pissed and came home. Liberals were so critical of his action. However, a few months later he went again and he got more than he was asking for the first time. Brilliant man, strong leader and he just "got 'er done!"
It occurred to me that if one can win a Nobel Peace prize for a thought, then President Bush should have won for his wish for democracy in Iraq.
Interesting vid on Healthcare:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44NCvNDLfc&fe…” target=”_blank”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44NCvNDLfc&fe…
"You can't make a weak man strong, by making a strong man weak."
~Abraham Lincoln~
Great quote!
The reason that was given for obama t receive this award, is because "he hopes for Peace".
Hey, I think that it would be most appropriate that every Beauty Queen Contestant, be given the "prize" because they and obama have the same "hope".
That was an afterthought. When no WMDs turned up, he needed another rationale for his adventure. Oh boy, said he, how about freedom and democracy for the Iraqi people. Right, said all the sycophants, that's the ticket.
Agreed – but there is another way to look at it. As the people who award the Nobel and their supporters around the world hate what American stands for, it would not honor Reagan for him to be in the company of Arafat, Carter, Gore, etc.
We need an award for Liberty Defenders and Freedom Fighters. That's what Reagan deserves – and to not have it awarded by the Nobel Cabal.
During the election, Huck blocked Romney when he himself had no chance. He threw in with McCain, who is huge RINO.
FOX is promoting the Huckster all week long and was leading in the last polls of preferred Republican candidates for president in the next election..
He will do nothing to slow down the NWO in its quest to bankrupt the USA and destroy the Bill of Rights.
Huck sometimes says very bright thints (gun control was an issue that I agree with what he says), but can never be trusted.
Your so right on with this. I believe its one of the reasons that Obama is trying to get his evil work done while he still can . He knows the American people as a whole are against it. But does he care?…no not one bit. We could use another great man in office like Reagon and there are a few out there. The question is will they step up to bat.? I for one hope so.
My motto is—–Sometimes you have to fight a war to keep the peace
The people who actually have the courage to stand up and fight when the enemy is knocking on the door are the REAL peacemakers. No one likes war, but sometimes it is nessasary in order to prevent a greater catastrophe. Iran and the bomb for example……sure, strategicly bombing Iran’s nuclear facilites may not be good idea, but whats worse….the risk of turning the Iranians closer to the mullahs, or Iran getting a nuclear weapon to enforce its brand of “Jihad”, destroying Isreal and then us…I would say the latter.
It’s like doing a controlled burn in order to prevent a larger forest fire from erupting.
The neocon kool aid must taste good. You've sucked it right down.
I just saw this video at patdollard.com. The Dems of this country have evolved into animals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2QqwXnBNAw&fe...
I just saw this video at patdollard.com. The Dems of this country have devolved into animals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2QqwXnBNAw&fe...
Yeah….this picture reveals someone with BALLS…..
he was a true testament to understanding his world stage and geopolitical gamesmanship……this is not anywhere equivalent to the prize one earns for the simple foreplay of promises…. it's simply the difference of leaving your partner totally satisfied, versus having them painfully deal with your premature ejaculation……in other words….this prize was a real dud.
The way the losers on Fark are spinning it is that Barack earned the Nobel Peace Prize by keeping Sarah Palin out of Washington — as if Palin would declare war against the entire human race in the event that she had to take over for McCain.
The way the losers on Fark are spinning it is that Barack absolutely earned the Nobel Peace Prize by keeping Sarah Palin the f_ck out of Washington — as if Palin would declare war against the entire human race in the event that she had to take over for McCain.
There are….
I miss him too; now, more than ever. I had hoped that Bush would be that guy, but alas, he was NOT… I am proud that the first President I voted for was Reagan. I have never had the priv to vote for anyone of his caliber again. Reagan wasn't perfect, but he loved this country like I (and millions of others) do. God Bless the USA.
God, please send us a leader who loves this country (and you) and who believes in the principles of our founders. We know we are not perfect, but we know that our founders wanted us to cling to you in our education and our government. Reagan was one of those men and I know there is another in the wings. Thank you Father God.
Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIouq2u9kUo -Listen to Mr. Reagan's admonition that we NOT give up the fight. We HAVE to make America the "shining city upon a hill" again.
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Actually I heard he told someone he was related to Machavelli on his Mothers, Uncles side.
I tried for over an hour last night and could not log in to ID.
Cowboy Logic
Minor correction to your statement"—–He is the gift that keeps on giving.'
He is the gift that keeps on taking. or The gift we keep on paying for.
Ronald Regan——A Man.
bwarry obo-mo—–a boy.
whoops a serious typo
Ronald Reagan——A Man.
bwarry obo-mo—–a boy.
I quite agree with you, Deb…. President Reagan would be marred and tainted by this sham of an award from these progressive traitors to civility and mankind.
Marry me….
RR is more relevant today than ever!
your quote makes me wonder something…why aren't the founding fathers required reading, even in college (well, minimally required in college, if you take the wrong class)? perhaps the educationists think the language too "arcane" and difficult for the common man to understand…
why do people believe scientists unequivocally? are people so dumb they really believe that no scientist could possibly be biased or twist the data to support his own opinion?
not sure if there's a dad…
i keep asking myself this same question. i'll let you know if i ever hit on anything. don't hold your breath.
Unfortunately, most "scientists" tend to bullshit the average Joe, beting them about the face and head with irrelevant facts and figures, until the average man simply throws in the towel and walks away. I know many educated people, most of them are educated beyond their own intelligence. They speak for the sake of hearing themselves talk, and nothing of intelligence comes out of their pir holes. Further, and most importantly, one item that many people do not know about, many "scientists" are funded by grants.
gee, matthew, what a thought provoking response. you really must have mulled that over for hours…i have always wondered why people who do not believe that we should fight for freedom if necessary don't go and live in countries where that is exactly what is happening. how about sudan? nice, opressive sudan. then you can be killed, your wife raped, and your children taken into slavery. i'm sure you don't agree, but that's something worth fighting against. but, no, we should take the u.n. route and try talking forever. that's saving lots of lives, isn't it?
yeah, but since i live in cali i might agree with their reaction, though for different reasons.
palin was the only reason i voted for mccain. she was the best thing the party had run in years.
When he was governor of Arkansas, he wasn't any better than Clinton and maybe even a tad worse.
One of his sons tortured and killed doges, when he was a teen.
I know that some people find Palin too "folksy" ( I don't ), but at least she is for REAL; unlike the Huckster, who can and does turn turn that stuff on and off like a faucet!
Yes, FOX is pushing him, but that really is a lousy idea ! Huckabe is out for Huckabee and is a damned RINO !
If all we can come up with are the likes of Huckabe, Romney, and Pawlenty…………………the Obama is guaranteed 8 years , which will completely and utterly destroy this nation for good and all !
I'm a "broken glass" GOPer, but not one of those, I named above, engenders any excitement in me.
Reagan is the reason I have to keep explaining to my children what the cold war was. They don't get it. They don't understand the fear those of us who grew up in the middle of it felt. They have never known that fear. I never want them to know that fear.
ROTFLOL…….now THAT is funny !
Shhhhhh… I have the other oar…. (in the same boat)…. I have a brother in Orange County…:)
AMEN TO THAT !
Sarah is America's Maggie Thatcher and it drives the damned lefties crazy .
Unfortunately, the Cold Warriors who were opposing participants in the Cold War, were tempered with rationality. They were not Liberal Fascist Militants. You say you never want your children to know fear; no parent does. I lived through the Cold War also, most of us who did know what we felt. Although it is commendable to shield your children from fear, the fear and apprehension I currently feel, make the Cold War pale in comparison.
We are at war with ourselves in this country. We are at war with ideology, for the very heart and soul of America, and I am fearful of the outcome………..
YOO HOO ! president PUTZ ?? YOO HOO ! HELLO ? HELLO ? OBAMA ? Are ya listening to the nails scratching on your blackboard ?? YOO HOO ! Hey YOU ! That's right….YOU ! Ever heard of that magnificent
President Ronald Reagan ?? That stalwart man who defended the United States instead of constantly denigrating and demeaning it ? You remember President Reagan. He was the LEADER who dearly believed in the greatness and exceptionalism of the American people. He was the ONLY American hero who defeated the Soviets without a bullet fired of a serviceman killed……unlike you who gambles with our soldiers lives for political reasons. (By the way….this WILL be one of your near term downfalls).
In November of 2010 you will be in "lame duck" status. Your Congressional funding will be cut off. Your legislative agenda will cease to be represented in the House. All House Bills will be stalled in committee until you are either finally impeached or voted out in 2012. You have more than awakened the "sleeping dog".
I fought in one of these absurd wars we are forever finding ourselves in — Vietnam. I saw that war is rarely an answer. Occasionally it is, but far more often it solves nothing and comes at enormous cost. My answer to david was not intended to be thought-provoking. It was appropriate to his comment, which reflects little thought or understanding. By the way, I support military intervention in the Sudan to protect the innocents you describe.
While I sympathize with MadreDeDanseurs, I tend to concur with Cowboy Logic. Such conflicts as the Vietnam War were merely proxy battles between the US and Soviet Union. I view this as a larger conflict between the righteous and the immoral. The righteous believe in liberty and freedom of the individual; the immoral believe in collectivism and the suppression of the individual. My fear is the immoral have infiltrated the US government and are seeking to undermine and destroy the righteous since they couldn't do it by force of arms. Hopefully, this current administration is the zenith of that immorality and we can beat it back. If not, I fear "1984".
While children should be educated as to the fear of the Cold War, they need to also be educated to realize that this is an ongoing battle between the righteous and the immoral; though the characters have changed. Unfortunately the end of the Cold War did not end history. The basic struggle continues.
Look, a seagull troll!
More seagull trolls!
Fine, old man. Saddle up and play with a bunch of cot-fueled Muslims…
You of all people should have the brains to pick up on this…but then again, John Kerry, who served in Vietnam as well, is as stupid as you…
Let me give you a hint…the M-33 you just rolled out of your boot still has the pin in…this time…
Go play with your hash…
Oh, Hell yeah!
Sarah, time to fire it up…we need you…
HEARD ON THE MORNING NEWS FLASH:
"Magic Negro orally induces 'Premature Adulation' in people simultaneously, from thousands of miles away!"
OMG! Obama is the messiah!
The "Real Achievement" Awards? The Reagan Awards?
Let us award those individuals who have put their lives on the line, who have made real progress and who have shaped the world through years of achievement. It wouldn't be hard to do.
Personally, I don't think they should all be American. There are many people fighting for liberty in countries around the world. All achievements should be recognized. For too many years these people have been ignored because they don't advance the hokey socialized vision of the liberal elite. Screw them.
Reagan: “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
Obama: "Ms Speaker of the House, tear down my opposition!"
Amen.
So true. I work with twentysomethings and one of them said the other day that "the Cold War wasn't a real war because no one went anywhere to fight…" this same person just signed up to join the Army…I was surprised at the other people who agreed with him (all twentysomethings) and realized that they have NO CLUE what we all lived with during those times. These guys grew up in a world totally devoid of the threat of nukes and have ZERO appreciation of the hard fight that went on. Proving again how our education system has sanitized the important historical facts about most events. ARGH.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
http://aconservativeteacher.blogspot.com/2009/03/...
nality.html
•In short: narcissistic leadership is about theatre, not about life. To enjoy
the spectacle (and be subsumed by it), the leader demands the suspension of
judgment, depersonalization, and de-realization. Catharsis is tantamount, in
this narcissistic dramaturgy, to self-annulment.Narcissism is nihilistic not
only operationally, or ideologically. Its very language and narratives are
nihilistic. Narcissism is conspicuous nihilism – and the cult's leader serves as
a role model, annihilating the Man, only to re-appear as a pre-ordained and
irresistible force of nature.
•The narcissistic leader prefers the sparkle and glamour of well-orchestrated
illusions to the tedium and method of real accomplishments. His reign is all
smoke and mirrors, devoid of substances, consisting of mere appearances and mass
delusions.
Those of us who grew up in the cold war era know the steel it took for Reagan to begin dismantling the soviet empire. Those too young to remember cannot appreciate the disdain felt by those who do for this "president" who apologizes for the legacy of not just Reagan but for all who have died for democracy's ideals. Shameful.
Best post of them all! That first link is HOT!
Our first Afermative Action Nobel prize !
Don't feel bad that Renaldus Magnus didn't get one.
Jimma Katta was enough of a joke. Now we have proof positive that the
Nobel Peace Prize is a total farce.
America- no apology is needed.
Dittos to the comments above; I could not agree more. God save the Republic …
I remember that too. It took guts, determination and backbone to do what he did!
Did you somehow post on the wrong board? DKos is the site further to the left, friend …
AMEN TO THAT FOR ME TOO!
AMEN. America the "shining city upon a hill".
Make that: "St. Barack, patron saint of hustlers." EVERYWHERE …
Could not have said it better; kudos.
"… this is what JFK said: “There exists in this country a plot to enslave every man, woman, and child. Before I leave this high and noble office I intend to expose this plot!” Reagan would have agreed with JFK."
Too soon, we forget …
"I lived in Berlin in the 1970's (my father was in the Army) and he took me to the wall (I was 10 years old) and tried to use the presence of that monstrosity to teach me about Freedom."
Wow … tremendous testimony. Let us never forget …
From the article:
"Had the Committee of Eccentric Left Wing Norwegians waited a bit and handed the award to Obama for pushing for Israeli concessions or some of his diplomatic roundtrips, it would have significantly burnished his image. Instead what they’ve done is turned both Obama and the Nobel Peace Prize into laughingstocks."
Yes, I think they know …
"The thing about global warming, is …"
Well, the flip side is a bigger threat, IMO, and there is no contingency plan for that!
Think: crop failures, more snow (look what's happening just this year with that!), millions of ppl w/o food, starvation, the LIA …
Wow … good definitions, good post.
"Narcissism is conspicuous nihilism – and the cult's leader serves as
a role model, annihilating the Man, only to re-appear as a pre-ordained and
irresistible force of nature."
Thank you President Reagan for allowing me to walk through the Brandenburg Gate.
I think that is partially due to most English speaking people think that Nobel mean Noble. Nobel is a name and noble is not part of the prize anymore.
Socialist/Communist/Feudalist goals. It s combination of all three. "To fundamentally remake America." Thanks, President Obama! A free Republic is such a terrible thing.
Thanks-I try–do I get a prize?
Indeed you do………………a Nobel Peace Prize. ;^)
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There is something that I really don't like about Pawlenty, but can't quite put my finger on.
The huckster is a greedy shuckster and does not care about anything but his own self-promotion.
I feel pretty good about Romney. Why shouldn't I?
As for Palin, Davey Crockett was folksy also and it is to ouradvantage that she is a normal American, unlike theNiles Kondracke typesandtheirHarvard conflict resolution society approach that in a very nice way has subordinated the USA to the Rothschild, Bilderberger, New York Fed, Goldman Sachs, US Treasury Congressional/Senatoral, Hollywood nexusvia bankruptcy.
There was a poll on facebook that asked the question did Obama deserve the Nobel peace price? When I voted NO I got to see the results… 82 percent of voters said NO and there was over 300,000 voters at that time (earlier today). 5 percent said maybe and that leaves about 13 percent and thats about the percentage of liberals in this country. I swear the liberals would cut off there nose despite there face.
When you think about it, the Nobel Peace Prize was established by Alfred Nobel the inventor of Dynamite. Irony is its essence. The list could never include such exceptional, faithful, people as John Paul II and Ronald Reagan, nor should it. The real heroes of the world do not strive for notoriety. They are responsible for the selfless acts of saving humanity from the human animal. In history, reapers of the harvest are seldom employed by the ones who sow the fields.
It's very apparent that you learned more in one day at age ten under the guidance of your father than Ms. Obama did under tutelage of her professors for years. You witnessed a great man make hard choices to bring about real change for the oppressed, she stood next to the snazzy suit bringing teleprompters to life in a flourish of empty rhetoric "hoping for change".
One man received the grace of God, the other received an empty Nobel Peace Prize
Symbolism over substance. That defines Obama. That defines the left.
Ronald Reagon : “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”
Barack Obama : "Can't we all just get along?"
(hey that's plagiarism, call the Nobel guys, they gave it to the wrong man!)
EXACTLY ! ! !
My wife and I turn on the news and exclaim in unison "You couldn't make this stuff up!"
But then you realize that what's even worse is what they're not reporting.
Sometimes the only escape is 'Leave it to Beaver' reruns.
He carved a niche for himself on the world stage with flowering rhetoric, and now he is whittling away at the constitution.
"hey that's plagiarism, call the Nobel guys, they gave it to the wrong man!)" Good one RandyI2!
Junk science with big money politics behind it. Here's some real science which says the Sun, not man, rules climate:
Cosmic ray decreases affect atmospheric aerosols and clouds
Henrik Svensmark, Torsten Bondo, and Jacob Svensmark
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre…k-forebush...
"Our results show global-scale evidence of conspicuous influences of solar variability on cloudiness and aerosols."
:~ )
Oh dear oh dear……you lost me by throwing in the Rothschild tinfoil.
I was NOT complaining about Sarah's "folksy" charm, just pointed out that the Huckster used it, but phonily. Palin's is NATURAL………………just her and yes, she is far from being an elitist; than GOD !
There is a LOT yo dislike about Romney' not the least of which is his blasted RomneyCare, which is pretty much a failure and not all that dissimilar, even prior to the Mass. Dems playing about with it, to ObamaCare. Then there are the true facts about the Olympics, which he and his supporters claim he "saved". He didn't and I do suggest that you look into this subject. I did and it's an eye opener. And if you thought that the lefties brutalized Sarah ( and they doid, for no good/valid reason ), should we get stuck with Mitt, just wait until they start in on the Moron "magic underwear"……..which happens to be for REAL !
Pawlenty stooges have been pushing him, all over the net/on political forums, for many years now. Frankly, I find him off putting and a cipher. There's less there there, than there was with poor Bob Dole, who at least had a record to stand on.
And as far as Huck goes, he's even worse than you insinuated !
Enough of the Harvard/Yale types…………….Reagan didn't go to an Ivy and he was a fantastic president ! And besides which, Harvard and Yale have lowered their standards, accepted a massive amount of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION frauds, as well as instituting gigantic grade inflation, over the past 30, years, as have most Ivy colleges and universities. When they graduate almost everyone with honors, that becomes as silly as, well……………..giving Barry the Nobel Peace Prize.
That was an afterthought. When no WMDs turned up, he needed another rationale for his adventure. Oh boy, said he, how about freedom and democracy for the Iraqi people.
Oh look. The lie repeated. Someone called you a seagull, probably a reference to all the bird droppings they make, but the term "parrot" also applies to your type.
The day that we were at the wall there was this old couple there with us. There were wooden platforms on our side that you could stand on to see into East Berlin. The old man was crying and kept saying over and over "In September, in September" There was another man on the platform who spoke english and my father asked him to ask the old man what was going on. He did, the old man talked for a few minutes, tears streaming down his face. Finally the other man turned to my father and said, "do you see the woman there? and pointed out into East Berlin. Sure enough there was a young woman standing in the street (past the two rows of tank tracks and dog runs) and she was holding a small child up over her head. Turns out that the woman was the old couple's daughter. The night the wall (well, actually on that first night in 1961, it was just barbed wire and armed guards) went up they were at a friend's house in what would become West Berlin. When they tried to go home, they were denied entry. The day that we met them was in August of 1975….and it had been 14 years since they had seen their daughter, who now had a daughter of her own. They had finally been granted permission to visit FOR ONE DAY that September.
I remember every sight, sound, and smell from that day. I remember that man standing there in his black wool coat and a black hat on his head. His wife was a small, quiet woman and I don't remember much about her except that she was clutching a framed photograph to her chest and crying softly the entire time we were standing there.
We live here in the U.S. comfortable in our freedoms and confident in the fact that we will always be free. Most people have no idea how lucky they are to live here, and that if we aren't paying attention, and we don't stand up….we might be looking at our grandchildren over a wall and two rows of tank tracks.
The day that we were at the wall there was this old couple there with us. There were wooden platforms on our side that you could stand on to see into East Berlin. The old man was crying and kept saying over and over "In September, in September" There was another man on the platform who spoke english and my father asked him to ask the old man what was going on. He did, the old man talked for a few minutes, tears streaming down his face. Finally the other man turned to my father and said, "do you see the woman there? and pointed out into East Berlin. Sure enough there was a young woman standing in the street (past the two rows of tank tracks and dog runs) and she was holding a small child up over her head. Turns out that the woman was the old couple's daughter. The night the wall (well, actually on that first night in 1961, it was just barbed wire and armed guards) went up they were at a friend's house in what would become West Berlin. When they tried to go home, they were denied entry. The day that we met them was in August of 1975….and it had been 14 years since they had seen their daughter, who now had a daughter of her own. They had finally been granted permission to visit FOR ONE DAY that September.
I remember every sight, sound, and smell from that day. I remember the dogs patrolling the wall, (I was 10 remember, so I just thought they were cute german shepards) and the men with guns in the tall towers spaced out along the wall. I remember that man standing there in his black wool coat and a black hat on his head. His wife was a small, quiet woman and I don't remember much about her except that she was clutching a framed photograph to her chest and crying softly the entire time we were standing there.
We live here in the U.S. comfortable in our freedoms and confident in the fact that we will always be free. Most people have no idea how lucky they are to live here, and that if we aren't paying attention, and we don't stand up….we might be looking at our grandchildren over a wall and two rows of tank tracks.
Nobel Peace Prize?? For what?? nothing but empty promises and more lies. Ronald Reagan was a REAL man and a REAL president who loved this country and did whatever it took to protect the American people. Abraham Lincoln said it best "you don't make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak." This world NEEDS a strong America.
“Oh dear oh dear……you lost me by throwing in the Rothschild tinfoil.
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I expected that reaction. LOL.
I am not a 9/11 Truther. Both WTCs were designed by their structural engineer Les Robertson to collapse inward, instead of tipping over.
Truthers also claim that the fireball wasn’t hot enough to burn through steel. In fact, (off the top of my head) kerosene can reach temps of 2,000 degrees. You need only 1,500 to bend steel. Further, Robertson attached each one of the steel beams at each end with three bolts. Only one end of one of them had to begin the pan caking collapse for the whole building to go down..
Truthers always use those two points and I know they know better, so I am certain that they are incompetent or out-and-out lying.
However, conspiracies define national and international politics. The subject can be so lengthy it is difficult be sure where to begin describing the Rothschild, Bilderberger, New York Fed, Goldman Sachs, US Treasury Congressional/Senatoral, nexus.
One of the best introductory arguments about the NWO is Jerome Corsi’s The Late Great USA (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alia... which compares the European merger into the EU, mostly against the wishes of the Europeans to the same attempt here, turning Canada, the USA and Mexico into one country – again against the people in each country. Clearly extremely rich European banksters don’t care about the Bill of Rights but only a huge consumer base that it controls.
Another place to begin unwinding these very real conspiracies is with the New York Fed. You might check out The Money Masters: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-51531956... (You can’t trust all the opinions or speculations, but much of it opens the door to histories that have been concealed from our history.)
The Masters video explains the tried and true historic method of destroying an economy which is basically to create a bubble by expanding the money supply and credit as far beyond the worth of the underlying assets and then to contract that economy by reducing both as much as possible.
Only the extremely rich have money at that point and they “steal” as much of those assets as possible for pennies on the dollar.
The New York Fed was secretly created for this purpose.
I don’t know if you have noticed that currently the players between the New York Fed, Goldman-Sachs and the US Treasury are all overlap, meaning that you don’t get appointed to Treasury unless you have been high up in Goldman. The same is true for the Fed.
Katheryn Austin Fitts who was Assistant Secretary of Housing – Federal Housing Commissioner under Bush I. says that trillions have been looted from our government: http://solari.com/index.php?id=53&searched=tr...
Soros is one of the Bilderberger connections. He made his first billion breaking the bank of England, on the financial backs of many average Brits. He has pulled this crap in Malaysia and all over Eastern Europe and Russia.
As for collapsing our economy in time to elect the B. Hussein O. Jr., go the AmericanThinker.com and look up Soros, especially Kyle-Anne Shiver’s essays.
I asked Andrew Gause (a New York financial guy) about his accusation that the Rothschilds own the New York Fed (http://www.andygause.com/index.php?option=com_con... He sent me to these charts from the Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence – Published 1983 and the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976: http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/federal_reserve... What these documents show is that even though local banks own the NY Fed, those banks are controlled by European banksters.
These are web documents and I still have to confirm that they are in the Congressional record – a chore I will begin in the next two weeks.
As for collapsing our economy in time to elect the B. Hussein O. Jr., go the AmericanThinker.com and look up Soros, especially Kyle-Anne Shiver’s essays.
I asked Andrew Gause (a New York financial guy) about his accusation that the Rothschilds own the New York Fed (http://www.andygause.com/index.php?option=com_con... He sent me to these charts from the Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence – Published 1983 and the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976: http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/federal_reserve... What these documents show is that even though local banks own the NY Fed, those banks are controlled by European banksters.
These are web documents and I still have to confirm that they are in the Congressional record – a chore I will begin in the next two weeks.
Finally, I am researching international sex slaves and mind control. Back in the 70s, our intelligence people caught the Rooskies sending microwave transmissions into our Embassy in Moscow. It caused our State Department people to get sick, depressed, cry, and generally freak out. I am taking a second cut through a couple of my books. One of them points out that suits with metallic lining are available for businessmen who do not want to be successfully targeted by enemies. Tin foil? Maybe.
Hey Cowboy,
Thanks for reminding me You can't with your head in the sand
Just got back took two days off Hunting
GOD save the USA
Rest in Peace, Mr. Reagan.
I'll give you Goldman Sachs, free and clear of any tinfoil, you can even thrown in the Congress, injto the mix ; however, the Rothschild and BUILDYOUROWNBURGER stuff is just tinfoil from head to toe!
The 9/11 Truthers are INSANE ! And yes, your stats about the WTC's construction, as well as the heat needed to melt the infrastructure, is spot on.
Tinfoilers drive me crazy………about 99.9% of what they believe in and then spout all over the place, is always gibberish and about on the same level as the CARGO CULTISTS and s" the CCs have based their "beliefs" on fare more substantial things.
I know Corsi……………………actually, knew him for many years; we we together on a political forum.
He started out as someone VERY reasonable and a great reseacher. Then, he went off the deep end on a few things and is one of the earliest and most vociferous BIRTHERS. I haven't seen him going gaga on the BC, lately, though.
Destroying economies, to make his own fortune, many times over, is that rat, George Soros' forte.
Yep, it was Soros and his consortium ( which doesn't include the Rothschilds ) who sent our markets tumbling last year, to aid Obama's election. Before the mini crash hit, McQueeg was winning by 6 points.
It was Romney who convinced McCain to rush to D.C. and "DO SOMETHING"; though that "something" was to cave into Paulson's ( a Goldman honcho ) ridiculous crapola, which Paulson had also convinced Bush the younger to fall for.
There, now you have yet another solid reason to NOT like old Mitt. And yes, my facts are solid; far more solid than will-o'-the wisp conspiracy theories, who know nothing.
Ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooooooooooo…….not the old "mind control" junk ! LOL
Even so he was 3x the man you'll never be
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\”I'll give you Goldman Sachs, free and clear of any tinfoil, you can even thrown in the Congress, injto the mix ; however, the Rothschild and BUILDYOUROWNBURGER stuff is just tinfoil from head to toe!\”
Yeah, well, I gave you the two government documents that show thatthe American banks that ownthe New York Federal Reserve Bank are owned by a Rothschild/European consortium. And I intend to research their authenticity in the next two weeks. People whom I trust like Jerry Doyle, Andrew Gause and Kathryn Austin Fitts beleive the above.
Our economy couldn't have bubbled without complicity from the Fed and if it is controlled by European banksters (as I am certain that I will soon be able to get confirmed), it should be obvious that our highest finance is controlled by European banksters who want to destroy our freedoms.
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Just being a birther doesn't make you a kook. It is perfectly reasonable to ask to see proof that B. Hussein O. Jr. has complied to the Constitution.
You didn't address Corsi'sThe Late Great USA. Possibly you are for a European-styleNorth American Union, sans our Bill of Rights?
The rat Soros is a Bilderberger. So is the King of Spain who is leading the charge for the North American Superhighway. They are both part of the European bankster (I know that Soros became a citizen of the USA, but did not grow up here or absorb our sense of fairness) attempt to bankrupt and corrupt us. This has nothing to do with tin foil. The Texans have been fighting these bastards for several years now, with an almost complete blackout on that news nationwide.
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\”Yep, it was Soros and his consortium ( which doesn't include the Rothschilds ) who sent our markets tumbling last year, to aid Obama's election. Before the mini crash hit, McQueeg was winning by 6 points.\”
I am not certain if anyone has the complete list of theSoros' gang participants who intend remove the dollar as the reserve currency, but if you have it, I would like to add it to my documentation.
Nor does it seem likely that the Bilderbergers are all of one mind in how the world's highest finances should proceed. I doubt that 100% of them want the USA to fail as Soros does. However, they are pragmatic and will protect their money first. They will go along to get along.
The Rothschild/New York Fedownership places that family at the heart of the problem. Again, our economy could not have been bubbled without the Fed's complicity, which set the stage for Soros.
I like the fact that Romney accomplished something that almost none of the posers aspiring to be president have never. He built a huge company, namely Staples. That gives me come confidence in him.
Got anybody whom you think is right and can win in 2012?
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You really do not have a clue what the f*ck you are talking about.
One of the problems regarding mind control infois that it is most often from a Leftest point of view, especially regarding the accusations against specific individuals, who are almost always conservatives. However, the documentation from the scientific literature is profuse.
Dr. George Estabrook in the 1920s worked on using hypnosis to create a Manchurian Candidate. By 1935 his work was classified. In 1963 he said that he had using traumafractured a personality and then reprogrammed itso that A knew about A & B, but B had no idea that A existed (Controllig the Human Mind by Begich, p. 43).
Most of that book, though, is about using photons, gravity, electromagnetic fields, microwaves, radio waves and sound to enhance interrogations, create amnesia,headaches, dizziness, voices or commands in the brain, cardiac arrhythmia, destruction to the cardiovascular system, induce hallucinations, mutation of human cells, zombification, induce sleep, death, mystery illnesses, manage a victims perceptions, prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions (and thus actions) transmit suggestions, interfere with short term and long term memories, produce an experience set, delete an experience set (a partial list).
It isn't just that Corsi is a rabid BIRTHER ( whose claims went PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT, BTW ) …there's lots more tinfoil there. As I said, I've known him for many years and all of a sudden, he went off the rails a bit ago; even before Obama won the primaries.
Just questioning Barry's BC, etc, doesn't immediately make one a full body suited and hat wearing tinfoiler. What Corsi said and wrote, does !
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey……now wait just a minute! The very last thing I am is a Sociaist, of any stripe ! What have I ever posted here ( or anywhere else, for that matter ) that would lead you or anyone else, to assume such a patently ridiculous thing?
I'm just an old hand at reading and rebuffing crazy tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theories. Most of the tripe, on line, about the Tri-Lats, Buildyourown burgers, etc. is spurrious, nuts, and just downright silly.
Oh Oh………..you're gonna hit me with the North American Super Highway, are you? *thud*
Please, please, please don't go there! And no, Mexicao, Canada, American are NOT going to have one currency! That garbage has been dxebunked, over and over again, for years now!
Whjat's next……the anti-Mason crapola?
GOOD GRIEF…………………………………………………………………………………..
You need to do a whole lot more research on Romney ! I have given you quite a few good examples why Mitt is NOT "the one to beat Obama" ( he can't ! ); nor is he someone whom you should want to be president.
I really like Sarah Palin. The rest of the pack are worthless! The problem, re Palin, is what was and still is being done to her.
What brought down our economy, last year, was a combination of several fault lines ( Freddie and Fannie and HUD, Dodd, Frank, Raines, Carter, Clinton, with the damned housing fraud, Paulson, Goldman Sachs, ACORN,et al ) and Soros' consortium. I have info stuck away somewhere in my files, but it'll take me probably a week, or so, to dig it out. When I do, I'll let you know.
Watch your language and do NOT assume things about those on line, whom you know almost nothing whatsoever about !
I know about and have been reading about this kind of stuff for many decades. As a matter of fact, I started reading about the USSR's ESP stuff ( as well as America's own unit, at Duke ) during WW II, in the 1950s.
Do YOU even know about what America was doing at the tip of Long Island, back in the late 1930s through all of WW II ?
Get over yourself………..lots of people know and understand such things; some, far better than you imagine that you do.
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You name call a lot and go off point about your opinion of Corsi. I didn't ask you about Corsi. I asked about his book which it seems you haven't read. It's a rational argument about how the NWO is attempting to sneak a North American Union down our throats just like they did with the EU. You seem incapable of addressing Corsi's points.
You changed the NAU subject to the Amero. It is obvious that Europeans are trying to develop the Superhighway and that Texans have been fighting them, the current governer and W. If you live in Texas and your land is going to be confiscated andgiven to Europeans, the issue isn't so obtuse.Again, you avoid an answer, with the word THUD, which says nothing.
As for the Amero, it appears thatsome of theworld money men are going to skip that step and try to go right to a World Reserve Currency.
Why doesn't B. Hussein O. Jr. simply show us his birth certificate that demonstrates that he is conforming to our laws? Beginning there Corsi strikes me as on point, though I am not prepared to defend all his statements because I am not familiar withevery one of them.
I read parts of it prior to it being published. I have also, along with many others, debated him on this subject.
The phony one currency garbage is part and parcel of the silly highway conspiracy, so no, I didn't change the subject and neither did I call you any names. I clearly stated my solid, well thought out view of Corsi, which evolved over several years of reading his posts, e-mails, articles, and parts of his books.
Obviously you don't understand as much as you imagine you do, vis-a-vis the highway tinfoil. Did you just stumble upon this stuff? No, that's not a slam, just a simple question. I'd like to know how long you have known about it.
No, you not only don't know all of Corsi's opinions of nor statements about the BC/. If you did, you would know about the trip to Africa, the "I HAVE PROOF", "I'M BEING HELD CAPTIVE", "I'M IN LONDON, BUT AS SOON AS I GET BACK HOME, I'LL TELL EVERYONE AND BLOW THIS WHOLE THING OPEN" stuff that he was backing and then fell completely silent about.
My "thud" was after a lengthy discourse on the topic. Perhaps a *crossed eyes* would have been better.
All you have done is quote some tinfoilers, which proves nothing, other than the fact that you have read a tiny bit about this stuff and fell for it.
Helpful hint………………this is a case of been there, done that, no thanks, don't care to debate it ever again, for me. IT'S OLD, FAKE, TINFOIL HAT "NEWS"!
If you want to discuss it, please find someone else to do it with.
As to why Barry has spent so much money trying to hide his birth certificate and almost all of his history is anyone's guess. I have a few theories of my own………………….all based on known facts, such as :
1. If Obama Sr. was his biological father, he impregnated Barry's mother whilst still married to a woman in Kenyan, with whom he already had at least one child, and months before he and Stanley Ann were married, IF they were ever married.
2. If Obama Sr married Stanely Ann, they committed bigamy and married illegally.
3. Obama Sr and Stanley Ann never lived together after Barry was born.
4. Barry's mother, with baby Barry in tow, went off to college ON THE MAINLAND ( that the USA's contiguous 48 states ) only days after giving birth.
5. B.H. Obama Sr. fled Hawaii when Barry was 2, never having lived with, nor as far as anyone knows, ever supporting Barry and his crazy lefty mother.
There's more, but at least the info I posted above, is solid ( proven ) and interesting.
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I read parts of it prior to it being published. I have also, along with many others, debated him on this subject.
That's not an on-point fact. That's you trying to say that you are superior because youknew Corsi and gave it some thought.
The phony one currency garbage is part and parcel of the silly highway conspiracy, so no, I didn't change the subject and neither did I call you any names. I clearly stated my solid, well thought out view of Corsi, which evolved over several years of reading his posts, e-mails, articles, and parts of his books.
I addressed the currency in one of the previous posts; it's irrelevant now because our enemies are skipping it and trying to go right to a World Reserve Currency. You claim to have a solid well thought out view of Corsi. This is like your first statement. You claim it but give no facts. I don't see any thinking at all.
The constant \”tinfoil\” comments are name calling. Again, you present no facts, just assertions. Jones and many of his followers have a problem with logical thinking. However, they sometimes do come up with a muckraking that exists nowhere else. You have to be very careful in trying to triple check his \”facts.\”
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The Silly highway? Hardly. It is an ongoing serious thrust to destroy the sovereignty of the USA. Here’s one article by Phyllis Schlaffly that summarizes the problems: http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/aug06/06-08... Schlaffly would not have been giving this any thought if it was merely silly.
Here’s a drawing of the original plan: http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/naf... although I can’t find it right now in SPP.gov. I have researched it in the past and found it on their site. Either I just haven’t found the correct way in or SPP has taken it down.
This document references the fight in the Texas Legislature against the Superhighway: http://391texas.blogspot.com/2009/09/super-highway-standstill-executive.html.
Here’s one quote of the duplicity going on there: The Session began with an announcement by Amadeo Saenz, the executive director of TXDOT, that the Trans-Texas Corridor was “dead.” The reality is that these projects were just renamed to the “Innovative Connectivity in Texas/Vision 2009” and are to move forward segment by segment.
This is a real, ongoing attempt by Eurotrash banksters to rip off the USA, not merely a silly whim.
You supply no facts ever – just ridicule and pretention. Unless you begin to, this conversation is over.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you say that you don't have time to waste "battling" in a long, drawn out "fight" with someone whom you don't agree with, or words to that effect?
My last post to you said that we should just drop this, since I am more than bored with it, yet here you are, ranting and raving and making unsubtantiated, patently ridiculous, claims about me and personally attacking me, for no reason.
And FYI……….calling some weirdo conspiracy theories "TINFOIL" , is hardly "name calling in anyone's lexicon!
I was simply trying to let you know that I am jneither new to Corsi, the stupid highway and Amerio CONSPIRACY THEORY, yet you have chosen to pervert the meaning of my posts/words now. That's all I need to know, to know that you lost this debate.
You have completely ignored saliant facts, YES, FACTS, that I havge posted. Ergo, I can only, therefore judge that facts matter not one whit, to you, but rather, you are only interested in continually posting a myriad of your own opions and name calling.
Since it appears that having that last word is so important to you……………………have at it. And then, be done with your boring, silly, TINFOIL posting self aggrandizement.
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B*llshit
Clean up your language !
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