Economic Storm Clouds on the Horizon
by Paul A. RaheThe experts charged with determining when recessions begin and end tell us that the latest of these unpleasant events ended a while ago. Technically, they are no doubt right. But that does not mean that the economic crisis we have been facing is over. I suspect that we have thus far only seen its first act. The drama to come may be far, far worse. To see why, one must recognize that economic downturns come in two different forms.
The economists who study recessions tend to think about them in turns of the business cycle – and rightly so, for in most cases it is the business cycle that produces the downturn. In the course of such a cycle, boom builds upon boom and bust upon bust. It is a bit like a game of crack the whip. Downturns occasioned by the business cycle are caused by overproduction. When businesses have more stock than they can sell, they stop producing and lay off workers. The workers laid off and no longer getting paychecks cut back on their consumption, and this in turn reduces the demand for goods and services and causes other businesses, which find their products and services no longer as much in demand, to curtail their efforts and lay off another set of workers. And so the recession grows, building on itself, until some businesses find that they have underproduced or underprovided for the services in demand. Then, the same process takes place in reverse with stepped-up production and a stepped-up provision of services requiring stepped-up employment, which occasions more consumption requiring another round of stepped-up production and provision of services and a further increase in employment and so forth – until production and provision once more overshoot demand. In the absence of perfect knowledge, human beings living in commercial societies are fated to suffer from an oscillation of this sort – between boom and bust.
When Barack Obama became President, his economic advisors appear to have been on automatic pilot and to have taken it for granted that this was the sort of recession that they were up against. And so they opted for a remedy that – if applied in the proper fashion, at the proper time, and in the proper amount – might serve to hasten an economy’s recovery from a recession occasioned by the business cycle. That is, they sought to prime the pump – to increase consumption by artificial means, to borrow money from the future, put it in the pockets of certain citizens, and hope that they would spend it right away and thereby put others back to work.
Such was, at least, their pretense. In practice, of course, the so-called “stimulus bill” was a targeted measure – a massive pay-off designed to reward the public-sector employees and unionized workers involved in infrastructure construction who make up core constituencies within the Democratic Party and to do so at the expense of those whose taxes the Democrats intended in the future to raise. Obama’s advisors did not worry much about the manner in which the “stimulus” was to be applied, its timing, and amount, however. For they took it for granted that the expenditures would do no immediate damage to anyone and that the economy would bounce back quickly in any case, as it always does when the downturn is caused solely (or at least primarily) by the business cycle.
But, of course, this did not happen. The economy did not bounce back. On 10 January 2009, Christina Romer – Chairman of President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisors – predicted that, if the so-called “stimulus bill” were passed, it would save 3.5 million jobs, that unemployment would stay below 8%, and that joblessness would quickly decline from that level. In the twenty-three months that have passed since Romer made this prediction, we have lost something like 3.5 million jobs, unemployment has climbed to about 10%, and it has not appreciably declined from that level. The chart posted below, which first appeared on Business Insider and on Calculated Risk, illustrates nicely the difference between the ordinary course of a recession and the course taken by our most recent downturn.
The only defect of this chart is that it fails to capture the full level of distress. To the 15.1 million Americans seeking employment (the basis for putting it at 9.8%), one has to add, as Irving Stelzer recently pointed out, the 2.1 million who have given up looking for work and the 9 million who have been kept on but only part-time. What the chart does show, however, is that we are not experiencing an ordinary downturn.
There is, as it happens, another type of recession not rooted so firmly in the business cycle, which you might call it a fiscal recession. The last one we experienced in the United States began in 1929, and it was a doozy. Fiscal recessions are a function of the level of indebtedness. The one in 1929 was preceded by an extended period in which the Federal Reserve Board, supported by the Secretary of the Treasury, followed an easy-money policy. Interest was low; money was lent to all and sundry on easy terms; home-buyers and consumers took out loans they could not manage; and investors with borrowed money took great risks in attempts to make a quick buck. Bubbles appeared; and when the stock market finally crashed and the unemployment rate went up, the number of bankruptcies was legion. Those able to manage their debts concentrated on paying them down; and, for a good long time thereafter, Americans were very, very reluctant to take on debt.
This is not the whole story, to be sure. After the crash in 1929, the Federal Reserve Board kept interest rates high; Herbert Hoover and the Republican Congress increased taxes and tariffs; and Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the Democrats compounded thereafter the damage that their predecessors had done by sustaining their policies and by raising taxes further. In all other respects, however, the current downturn is more like the Great Depression than it is like any recession subsequent to World War II.
One other qualification deserves mention. No recession is ever purely fiscal, and even in recessions produced by the business cycle, those who have taken on excessive debt or who have lent foolishly go bankrupt. I have been speaking in terms of ideal types. What one needs to focus on right now, however, is the fact that policies which might help to turn around an economy suffering a downturn rooted primarily in the business cycle will backfire if that downturn is chiefly caused by an excess of indebtedness – which is precisely what is happening right now.
Between them, Alan Greenspan and his successor Ben Bernanke – with the support of two Presidents from different parties and a series of Secretaries of the Treasury appointed by both Presidents – ran an easy-money policy for something like two decades. In the process, home-owners, consumers, investors, states, and municipalities ran up massive debts that they had little hope of paying off. Under George W. Bush, the federal government did so, on a lesser scale, as well; and then, under Barack Obama, the federal government did so on a scale unprecedented in peacetime.
We have now been left holding the bag. Something like 2.1 million houses are in foreclosure. States like Illinois, New York, and California are insolvent. And the powers that be have colluded in delaying the day of reckoning. The banks have not yet fully recognized their losses; the real estate market has not cleared; and nothing has been done to balance the budgets of some of our largest and most important states. In the meantime, Barack Obama and his party have lead the federal government into what economists call a fiscal trap.
In the next couple of years, the banks will have to face the music, and those houses will be dumped on the market – which will drive housing values down further and encourage those who find that they owe more than their houses are worth to join the millions who have stopped paying their mortgages and, in effect, abandon ship.
In the next couple of years, as Walter Dean Burnham has recently argued, Illinois, New York, and California are going to have to declare bankruptcy, give their bondholders a haircut, cut salaries and benefits, and let go a great many public-sector workers.
Moreover, in the near future, as Lawrence Lindsey has recently pointed out, interests rates are going to rise, and the federal government is going to find the cost of servicing its debt harder and harder to sustain.
These are separate matters, but the odds are good that the second housing crash, the recognition of state insolvency, and the fiscal crisis of the federal government will coincide. To date, everything that the Obama administration has done has served only to delay the arrival of our day of reckoning and deepen the fiscal crisis on the horizon. If the unemployment rate is not coming down, it is because employers see through the charade and are intent on not getting caught short when the entire structure comes tumbling down.
The next few years are going to be grim, and those in charge do not inspire confidence. Would you entrust your welfare to Jerry Brown, Andrew Cuomo, Pat Quinn, and Barack Obama? We have to hope, however, that these men wake up, swallow their preconceptions, and without delay move decisively in the direction of balancing the budgets of California, New York, Illinois, and the United States.
I myself very much doubt that they will do so. Unless these men – our President above all – demonstrate qualities that they have never before evidenced, we are in for a truly terrible ride. There is only one silver lining; and welcome though it might be in ordinary circumstances, it is hardly worth the cost. Politically, this means that Barack Obama is likely to be remembered for having done to the Democratic Party what Herbert Hoover did to the Republicans.







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Business cycles? You sound like an Austrian. Nothing new here.
To the homeland security douche spying on me, click on my camel lady icon, it clearly states I am anti-Washington.
F u Walmart, I will never buy anything at your store again.
Obama an the Democrats are not capable of seeing how wrong they are,
as conservatives we must keep setting the tone of financial responsibility.
There are a number of analysts and prognosticators saying essentially this same thing. We are in for a horrendous crash, perhaps even worse than what triggered the Great Depression. I see nothing being done on any level by the government to do anything but stall it, and it may be inevitable at this point. Unless we do a complete 180 and soon, things are going to go from bleak to disastrous in a blink. And even at that, we may only be able to make it a major disaster rather than a full melt-down. Time to stock up folks – food, water, ammo and firewood will be the new currency soon.
For years the progressives have justified their nefarious schemes by creating rights where there aren't any, and then accusing conservatives of being selfish if we say no. The sales pitch has always been, "We live in the richest country in the world, if we can't (insert any scheme here)". Now the chickens are roosting all over them and they are covered in bird crap for all to see.
Fiscally both Bush and Obama followed progressive philosophies. Bush may have been a Republican but his spending and the ushering in of bailouts tell that tale. Obama only took what Bush started and pumped it full of liberal steroids. Neither party at this point in time knows how to say no to spending. All the deficit dancing going on right now is window dressing. Our country is in the hands of many, many spending addicts on both sides of the aisle. Until we elect an overwhelming amount of men and women willing to run on a platform of "No Bacon, Just Beans" I'll not hold high hopes regarding America's financial future.
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As has been said before, soon the host will be dead. Get away from the blue cities, the parasite class will begin too cannibalize itself. Make no mistake this is what Barry wants to happen to our great country, he hates America, and wants to be in the saddle at it’s perceived demise. The thing the radicals are not able to see, is the American spirit, and once the collapse happens real America will pick up the pieces and reset using 1st principles.
This is off topic and I apologize, but I just witnessed something on the "Dems. Gone Wild" topic where the points are in the 200's and up.
After the page loaded I sat there and watched the points go up in two's, does anyone know what's going on here?
It looked just like our debt clock that Beck shows all the time……only cheaper. LOL
Again I'm sorry that this is off topic but I wanted you all to know.
I think the worst thing in this Country for American's to face, is dealing with any crisis when the Dems are in charge.
Or dealing with the crises created by Dems.
Here's an idea- gimme some leadership determined to make America the marketplace to the world. This could be done but would require abandoning the artificial constructs of overwhelming constraints businesses have become burdened by over decades. It's clear that a 'service economy' doesn't cut it when everything's falling down around you.
There's a link at the top of BG that says Boehner promises to cut own budget by 5 percent….. The fed's have an automatic 10% increase over each budget year already. So is this a 5% reduction in that increase of a real cut?
Bad times ahead?…… absolutely when we still have a lying government unwilling to look at dismantling itself. Greece, Ireland….. here we come!
The picture looks to be a Category 5 Hurricane …which is what I see coming our way. While the Feds are buying something like 30% of California's municipal bonds …tax dollars …just read yesterday that this is the next bubble to pop. But not just CA …well over 25 of our 50 States. Hmm …or as Obama stated 57 States.
"…Downturns occasioned by the business cycle are caused by overproduction. When businesses have more stock than they can sell, they stop producing and lay off workers. …"
Begging your pardon but downturns are caused by a reduction of investment capital in the market of sufficient size and velocity to sustain current employment. You supply-siders all crack me up. You think that you can manipulate demand for consumption and make sustainable economic policy as a result, but all you do is stimulate the worst possible of all economic outcomes as consumption is, in and of itself, the worst of all worlds as it is not self-sustaining in nature – a key component to sustaining the business cycle. In point of fact our business down cycles are caused by the government taking too much money out of the economy and then spending it on consumption and transfer payments – both of which are not consistent with the elections of the stakeholders of the economy and are inefficient. Why is it so hard for you people to admit that government comes at a cost to our economy because it is structured endogenously? There is no argument you can make about the right size of government when government feeds at our dinner table. Period the end.
True GHU , but Conservatives are used to swimming against the tide, we will win , one battle at a time,
we beat Hitlers regime,
we WILL beat Obama's Chicago's machine.
Bush was no Conservative, In 2012 a real Conservative must step up to the plate.
Good morning. I noticed some darn wild things going on for sure. ID may be having some issues with Soros paid hackers.
Excellent article Mr. Rahe.
I heard on a business report yesterday, that since the real estate bubble burst, Americans have stood by, and could do nothing, while 9.5 Trillion dollars evaporated from the housing markets. That means that net worth, and credit have constricted by the same amount.
Commercial real estate is the other shoe yet to drop, but it is in freefall, only it has not hit the ground yet. Couple those factors with the two largest items in a household budget going through the roof, food and energy, and ominous black clouds are on the horizon. Oil is set to break $100.00 per barrel in the next few days, possibly as early as today.
That's what I was thinking. I was on that topic earlier this morning before work and those scores were only in the 200's, last I checked they were 800's and counting, that's weird!
Good morning to you too, I hope you're staying warm, we might get snow this week end.
Like I've said in the past; Bush tied to put out a fire using a bucket of gasoline.
Obama is just using a bigger bucket.
Tighten your belts and protect your wallets. Congress isn't done spending us further into debt.
Anytime there is a link at the top of Drudge to a BB article… there is going to be some huge traffic.
Yes, and I went from 104p to 101p the other day. I figured some threads must have been deleted or something. Now I'm not so sure. Those comments with 200+ positives are bizarre, so there could be some leftards at… "work."
I spent most of the day yesterday out of doors. Chilly it was but nothing layers wouldn't take care of.
Traffic is one thing but this was beyond a traffic jam. LOL and nothing like I saw.
And usually you have to refresh before you see the scores, this wasn't the case.
According to the dems, the way to fix the economy is to raise taxes on employers. See their enlightened minds at work?
The PatriotMan, gettin' layered. You stud muffin.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Warren Buffett is very bullish, especially on America right now. I believe he has a slightly better track record than Mr. Rahe and he does not have a political ax to grind. In 1990, a share of Berkshire Hathaway was around $5,000 a share. It is now worth $125,000. Scoreboard.
It is odd. I don't put a lot of merit in the scores anyway.
That's what I'm thinking too. There has been many sites hacked into, and I think that has something to do with it.
True these topics get traffic, but never have I watched scores go up several at a time without refreshing the page first.
Yes! Let's just pray the Republican Party let's a Conservative even come to bat. It's been a while since they did. Fingers crossed.
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And a monster dumptruck to boot!
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The entire collapse is a Democrat, Islamic, Communist scheme to take over America. All our enemies are standing outside the door waiting for their cuts…pieces of you and your children. We have failed the Founding Fathers so far…is there still time to wrestle the Future away from our darkest enemies who now rule our FED?
I am praying so…and I am buying weapons, golds and supplies. For when it dies, the power grid dies, and neighbors will become Zombies…and the enemy within will rise up well armed an intent of murder. Bank on it…that has been the Sorosian – Democrat Plan all along…
u r a dog anus.
Have you noticed how many new commenters with only 1p & less than 30p there are
on that Dems Gone Wild piece?
Something weird going on in our lil wurld, fer sure!!!
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Drudge has a link at the top of his page. That is where the new ID accounts are coming from…. so they can comment.
He, he, he, a lil layerin does a body good.
Top of the day to ya. Hope all is well. I was thinking a lot yesterday as my activities were physical and didn't require too much thought. This gave me the opportunity to think about all of the things occuring. At first I wanted to believe that it was just chaos. Then I remembered a phrase I had come up with many years ago to explain a project I was on. Organized Chaos. I think that is what we are having today.
The primaries will BE OURS
Really. Does the truth hurt that much?I am laughing all the way to the bank everyday singing Warren's praises. I bet you are listening to Glenn the Idiot and his advertising shysters who are trying to sell you gold at a 200% mark-up or seeds for $250.00 a package that you can go a buy at the home and garden store for $2.00 or so an envelope. I know this may be beyond your level of comprehension, but have you ever wondered how Gold line can continue to bombard you with commercials on the Idiot's show when they are selling a commodity that has a price which they do not control? Think hard, think really hard. How much commission must they be charging to afford this level of advertising?
arrogant AzzzzBoil u r…yep….AzzzBoil and Arrogant….must be a demoCrapp…:)))
Thanks for this great article which translates a lot of economic technical terms into easily understood language. After reading "New Deal or Raw Deal", I was puzzled that Keynesian economics is still a philosophy. This essay answers my questions.
The silver lining might just be that tough times will return us to our roots of hard work, family values and fiscal sanity, just as the Great Depression changed my grandparents….Most of them avoided debt, even home mortgages. They saved for what they wanted. It might also be good for our education, as children will once again learn that you must work for what you get. Remember, the "Greatest Generation" was the product of the depression, and they, against technical odds, defeated the Nazi war machine.
That's what I'm banking on! http://audacitea.blogspot.com/
Seems their "intent" IS another great depression.
Buffet bets on companis not the US … and he certainly has a political axe to grind … of course his support of the death tax is directly related to his ownership of 6 insurance companies …
He is no different than Soros except for less "youthful indescretions" …
I very much doubt you own even a single share of BH so tell me again how you are laughing all the way to the bank since Buffet NEVER telegraphs his future stock picks …
Mornin Patriot!
HOPE you like the CHANGE, you voted for it.
"Would you entrust your welfare to Jerry Brown, Andrew Cuomo, Pat Quinn, and Barack Obama? "
Uh….no. I would trust my welfare to myself, my family and friends.
Regarding the "Points" mystery: I think that BG needs to spread the wealth around and move points from you richer posters to those less fortunate. Kind of equal out the points among all the people on the site. (I hope you realize that I am just kidding!)
Thanks Duuuuh, I saw your comment to that effect above…
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Yeah, right.
Warren Buffet has been yapping and yodeling for months now about those "Green Shoots".
The only green shoots anywhere, are those sprouting out of the head of my Obama Chi-pet.
They do.
Those that had negative red ratings, in the 70's, 80's and 90's, are now positive 70, 80, and 90.
How is that for spreading the wealth?
Of course Buffett is bullish on America right now. He helped drive the economy into the ground at minimal expense. He knows the Republican House will bring the economy back from the pit the democrats have driven it into. He will buy up every company he can while the value is down. He stands to make billions – again. Until you understand how leeches like him work you remain one of his puppets.
Good morning, MobMember? Too funny, a call to a year ago or so when we the TEA Party and conservatives in general were called a mob?
I think maybe he left out something that's been ignored simply because it hasn't happened yet. What about the collapse of the commercial real market? My dad stayed out of the dot com bubble because so many of those companies did not have actual assets and appeared overvalued to him. I am a lucky girl to have such a smart daddy (except for that bizarre investment in Euro-Disney in the early days that we NEVER talk about, but really, could anyone predict that the French didn't care for the REAL Mickey Mouse?)
Now some are predicting that many of those companies with actual assets are going to lose or abandon their commercial properties. And when this glut hits the streets it's back to the urban decay of the '70's and worse.
I don't think it is their intent but it was not Hoover's intent, or Roosevelt's. They were progressives and did not understand macroeconomics. The same is true of Obama and many of his advisors. They think they can tinker with the economy and nothing bad will happen because the business cycle will make all things rosy again. Bush, I'm sorry to say, didn't understand either in spite of his Harvard MBA. Easy money is politically popular but is as healthy as a diet of donuts. Greenspan deserves a lot of blame, too. He, of all people, should have known what would happen.
Supply side economics is not about demand, That's Keynes.
Warren Buffet owns six life insurance companies and is therefore a big fan of a rise in inheritance taxes. If a family business is to survive the death of the principal, the family must buy life insurance to pay the death tax and Warren is all for that. There is an old rule that applies to Warren Buffet and to George Soros.
Cui bono?
You do realize of course that your master, George Soros, has bought a **** load of gold banking on the same thing right? How do you almost triple the M1 supply and permanently keep inflation away, especially when the cost of raw goods and commodities has increased 30-70%? How did Kraft have record sales last quarter but post a net 8% loss?
Keep that head in the sand Husker.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/12/warren_buf...
Here's a nice little look at your hero. Warren Buffet's outlook is not to be trusted. He gets to manipulatye every situation he's invested in.
Go read "Four Pillars of Investing". You could use the economic education. It breaks down predicting markets, studies done on doing so, and sepcifically addresses Buffet,.
Yep, that's where I got it from when they were calling us mob members. LOL. Good to see you. I can't log into vent for the past few days. I'm siggy40 over there.
Doin' alright, thanks. Harry's a little miffed at me–must be in a foul mood today.
When you consider the recurrent theme running through"liberalism,' it is, in all ways, the elimination of standards. When you have a couple or three generations from which expectations have been all but completely eliminated, is it any surprise that I'm not exaggerating when I call these people anarchists? What can you expect from such people but unwillingness to abide by any standards, muddled and easily-led thinking, moral inculpability, etc. Darwanimals.
We're dealing with the "machinations" of anarchists, such as that means anything with them. Is that the end game or part of the vehicle by which we get to totalitarianism, using the anarchists as useful idiots? Probably both.
Exactly. Commodities are up 30-70% across the board meaning that inflation is coming. The M1 supply has increased multi-fold, and as you said, the commercial real estate bubble hasn't burst yet. If the dems get to raise taxes on employers like they want to do, it will make things even worse than what we might imagine.
Husker, I know you, as a lib, let others do your thinking for you. Perhaps you are a college student spouting off what you poly sci teacher is force feeding you.
Explain to me what would be the reason to think things are good? The EU is in free fall and will be the focus for the next several months, but does that mean we are in good shape? Did you see what China had to say about us yesterday? What do you see that the rest of us don't?
ROTFLMAO. Keep investing with Glenn the Idiot and his overpriced hucksters. So Warren owns 6 life insurance companies. It is America. His views on the estate tax have nothing to do with his economic outlook. I know the truth hurts, but he really, really has scoreboard and you people are just so arrogant and stupid to admit it. Now I have to get back to work. Have a nice week-end.
Hey there siggy, it has been a long time. I haven't been there in a long time. Seems you have some interesting folks traveling your threads.
In truth I never paid much attention to those numbers until someone brought it up recently. I tend to go by who the poster is and the quality of their post.
Nobody in business can make any long term plans, or long term capital investments, as everything is in a state of chaos, a state of flux. The day the Health Care Bill passed back in the spring, was the day I threw in the towel. Over the course of the past several months, I have been systematically and methodically liquidating EVERYTHING I own. Long before Beck made the call to "scale back". Shortly, I will own nothing but a pick up truck, a horse trailer, and four wore out old saddle horses.
By the end of the year, my ranch will be sold and gone, to a rich feller from Europe. Lock, stock and barrel. Everything including the artwork on the walls, my desk, all the furniture and personal belongings. Right down to the kitchen utensils, the light bulbs and firewood in the woodbox. My calves were shipped the first part of November, and I sold my cow herd as well. I split my mare bands into four groups, and gave twenty-five horses each, to my four most deserving friends.
I'm having a sale tomorrow, and selling my remuda.
I can put a lifetime of memories in the back seat of my pickup, and take my four favorite ponies, and pull out onto the county road.
My goal was to be gone by the end of the year.
I have no idea where.
It's a gonna be an adventure………..
"……….Now I have to get back to work…………"
I knew it,……I knew it,……I was right,…..!!!!
You are really not a one of those silly liberals,………..
you just say all those goofy things just to attract attention.
You little rascal you Bo,…..
It must really get lonely there in Nebraska.
yep, just as I thought. Ignorant to the end.
As I have repeatedly posted, CAPITAL LOL'S don't make you better than anyone else, it just tells us what a douche bag you are. Again, go read Four Pillars. It goes into a crap load of detail about picking the market and what warren has that others don't.
Speaking of score board, ever hear of Peter Schiff? The guy who has predicted ALL of this stuff years before it happened, and that you all laughed at repeatedly? He truly has the score board advantage and has the following to say: "These are my hopes, but my fear is that we are on the cusp on the largest economic downfall in modern history. "
Sounds like a lot of reason for optimism. AGAIN, outside of having someone do your thinking, you can't offer up a single reason why we should be bullish. Brilliance in action.
Speaking of scoreboard, Oklahoma, TX, Iowa State. Seems like you should keep your scoreboard comments to yourself, Huskerchild.
This is classic:" So Warren owns 6 life insurance companies. It is America. His views on the estate tax have nothing to do with his economic outlook"
The willfully blind, the willfully dumb. The fact that he makes millions if not billions off of life insurance policies based on huge estate taxes has no influence because you say so!
can I quote you? Let me test this out. ROTFLMAO? Nah, doesn't work. I don't need to convince myself or others. I got the facts and truth on my side. You got the Caps Lock and Soros.
You did read where I told you Soros is DEEP into gold right? Keep laughing chuckles. In one year's time we'll see who's laughing.
Nope $7,200
High of $148,000
Currently $119,900
He is also buying Gold. (Is he secretly a Beck fan?)
Wow, you're taking an approach much different than mine. I am acquiring as much as I can while my dollars have purchasing power. I am looking at acquiring land in 2 different nations as my escape plan. One of the radiologists I work with is a private pilot on the side and flies around a bunch of millionaires and billionaires, and he tells me of a common theme. They are getting their over seas contingency plan in order, and several have already left. The question is where do you go? The world seems drunk on "social justice" all the way to their economic graves. Then there's the entire change of culture. Tough times ahead with no certain answers.
I know I can handle,…..beans without pork and,…….
sleeping in a 45 degree house in January,……..
I can drain all the water pipes on the second and first floor of my house,….
thus, all I have to do is keep the pipes in the basement plumbing from freezing.
I got a fireplace and I know how to start a fire without a match.
If I run out of fire wood, I have two wood frame garages.
But on thing is certain,……..
I will not ever run out of my desire to be free,…….
not without a fight.
The only thing that concerns me is that,………
I just hope the values I have instilled in my children,…….
will be sufficient for them to hold on.
OK lefties,……….bring it on.
Yeah, nothing but stall, and that only makes matters worse. Imagine when interest rates tick up. And considering the US has been the world's policeman, once the US is tied up with severe domestic crises, it'll be like the jailhouse doors opening for the world's bad regimes. Not to imagine radicals here in the homeland crawling out from under rocks to stir things up. And Obama czars looking for new ways to seize more power and institute new controls.
Darwanimals. LOL I smell something in the air and it has the foul stench of civil unrest much like we are seeing in Europe. They have been carefully setting it up and I think that the tax compromise is the fulcrum to start it rolling.
I can't for the life of me figure out why this is not the dialogue; we the working tax payers allow a certain amount of money to our government. This is no different than an allowance a parent may give to a child. It is not the government allowing us to keep some of the fruit of our labor. As responsible patriots we understand that a certain cost is associated with those things enumerated by the Constitution for our security and administration of the law. That is what the allowance is for. You must spend it responsibly and with a statement to the taxpayer regarding your annual expenditures. Should you spend the allowance in a irresponsible manner, you will be disciplined and we will restrict any future allowance we provide until we receive a specific written and requested cost analysis.
No certain answers.
It is a gonna be one helluva par-tay……..
The Russians defeated the Nazi War machine. 80% of the German war effort was spent fighting the Russians. I totally agree with the rest of your post though.
Yep, one I would rather not attend.
Husker,
Did you see where George Soros is recommending everyone buy gold?
Unfortunately, attendance is mandatory. For all of us.
We are caught right smack dab in the middle, of a war between good and evil.
The only consolation is, good, and God always wins.
It just might take a long, long time.
We might not live to see it.
I'm no economist but every bit of common sense I have tells me super low interest rates, ridiculously low interest rates aren't natural, healthy or honest.
Something is rotten right at the roots of a 1 percent interest rate.
I know someone who just refinanced their house for 3 percent. it's a good deal for them but if money is in effect WORTHLESS, then that's a bad, bad thing.
If debt and deficits continue and the rest of the world refuses to accept US dollars as the reserve currency for international exchange of settlements, we are in deep doo doo. The USD will become virtually worthless overnight and you'll be sucker punched.
$2 million USD in your savings and investment accounts as the result of your life's work? Good luck…virtually worthless. This is already happening far faster than anyone thinks. The Fed and the MSM will not tell you until it's too late — it's in their interest not to panic you out of USD.
Gird you loins.
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Amen.
One of the truly noblest characters in American history, George Washington, was convinced to his core that this country was born of "Providence" as he put it. Then he and a small, underequipped, malnourished group of farmers overcame adversity to beat the world's greatest superpower at the time. Now, this same country is under assault from within.
This generation inherited greatness and prosperity and squandered it. Progressives may have steered things in the wrong direction for a long time, but individuals have always had choices, and choices have consequences.
What's coming looks…epic.
I think I come off as "flip" to some. I have, and I don't really like this term, "inner peace" about all of this. I made up my mind, a long time ago, about what I'm willing to put up with and to what extreme I'm willing to control that. A strong sense of right and wrong facilitates that. That's what I find so stunningly weird about Lefties–they have no sense of any of that. It's just "gimme, gimme" all the time.
My rights don't come from government and, as far as I'm concerned, they won't end there. While I don't want to die, I will take as many of these people with me as is necessary–there will be no conscience issue. While many will try to own you, and I have the sense sometimes that even happens on here in subtle ways, none try to do so with any type of authority.
http://www.creationtips.com/tyrants.html
And bloody.
Guaranteed, there will be blood.
There is no way around it.
Do I want that?
Not on my grandchildrens lifes.
Alea iacta est.
But there is nothing we can do to prevent it. It is inevitable. They will not go quietly into the night. They have become entrenched over the last one hundred years.
Close the borders and abandon the North American Free Trade Agreement. Cut all Federal spending 15% across the board. And that 15% includes defense, all federal government employees pay making over 50k and all federal employee benefits including the retired federal employees. Also let’s raise the government retirement age to match social security and eliminate double dipping of all federal employees. The double dipping federal retires can be a job for the next group of federal workers.
Thank you..I was getting ready to comment similarly…Everybody had better wake up..Re-focus on the REAL problem encircling us..Its not the economy stupid…It's the ideology of power brokers/seekers !!! Wake up america!!!!
Hey there siggy I remember you. If it weren't for reading P2O's thread I would have missed this.
Great seeing you. : )
I agree with all of the above.
Businesses are sitting on $3 TRILLION in profits collected in the past two quarters alone, and they've done it with fewer workers. Why hire when the remaining employees you have are so scared of losing their jobs that they're working twice as hard?
Businesses have never had it so good. And some say Obama is anti-business?
You must be doing something right if Homeland Security is spying on you.
That clipped haired butch lesbian needs to go.
I always liked Flip. Great comedian. Heh, heh.
WOW looks like everyone also thinks you are a dog's anus, Bo…yep, u r a real BO-hole…got your ass kicked by the world it appears..Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahah
A financial to-do list
1. Debt, deficits and recession: Check, Check and Check.
2. Fed money-printing: Check.
3. Devaluing dollar: Check. But relatively speaking, it's still a race to the bottom among world currencies.
4. Inflation: Check. Unless, like the CPI, you measure by excluding things with rising prices, like food and energy.
5. TBonds lose demand: Not yet..
6. Interest rates spike: Not yet. This is triggered by #5.
7. Interest payment on debt explodes: Not yet. This is triggered by #6.
8. All hell breaks loose: Not yet. This is triggered by #7.
So, a key question is, how much longer will the world's lenders want to keep buying our bonds as we continue to rack up debt, to be repaid — if at all — with dollars that are increasingly worthless?
Unless you live remote of the major population centers non of that planning will be of any use. at least in the days of the great depression men still held integrity and compassion in high regard. These days you can be murdered for driving down the wrong street or for the sneakers your wearing. can you imagine what atrocities a complete social breakdown in our modern age would bring.. I agree, stock up! but get the heck out of the city and learn some survival skills as well.
Rural rules. Anyone coming toward my house is seen half a mile off – plenty of time to lock and load or run if warranted.
We live in and die by debt based currency. It must continue to expand to sustain its self. There is not enough money in the world to pay the debts off. So what is to be done?
The real damage in commercial real estate will be to local and state governments. Cities all over the country are in dire financial straights right now due to the loss of revenue from businesses. Couple that with the loss of commercial real estate revenue and local government is going to face failure. It will get much worse.
And they have this money because they don't know what is coming from Washington (UNCERTAINTY). They would normally invest and grow, but because of BHO and the children running the government, businesses can't take that risk.
Brilliant article, as usual. One thing not mentioned: The absolute decimation of the SS funds, the cost of Medicare and prescription drug plans. We owe so much more money than our government is telling us.
you and me, c. ralph, we're floating in the same boat. well put.
Great to see you GodHelpUs! Have a Merry Christmas!
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