Patronage, Principles, and Political Parties
by Paul A. RaheWhen they teach American government and the history of the early American republic, political scientists and historians have a puzzle to explain. There is, within the American constitution, no mention of political parties. And yet it is impossible to make sense of American politics in and after the early republic without reference to parties. Moreover, the parties that did emerge in the United States bear only a faint resemblance to the parties that existed in England and on the European continent prior to the American civil war and even less to the parties that exist on the other side of the Atlantic today.

The two puzzles are related. It is true that the Framers of the Constitution had no liking and made no provision for organized political parties, and it is also true that all of the early Presidents made at least a half-hearted attempt to transcend partisanship. It was not until Andrew Jackson that we got our first unequivocally partisan President. It is also true that the partisan divide that emerged in the 1790s was viewed by both sides as something temporary and regrettable. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison formed a party, which in time they called the Republican Party, to counter what they considered a conspiracy on the part of George Washington’s Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton, and in response he formed a party to counter what he considered a conspiracy on their part. Absent the conspiracy, or in the eventuality of its defeat and disappearance, the American republic’s first partisans expected the parties to wither away.
In this presumption, as Martin van Buren came to realize, they were wrong. Given the separation of powers, it was virtually impossible to govern in the absence of partisan alliances. But the very structure of American government – in which Congressmen are elected by particular constituencies located in particular places and look to that locality for re-election, and in which Senators represent particular states and are no less sensitive to local concerns – subverts partisanship and promotes a species of moderation as well. Only the President sees the Union from the perspective of the whole. When Tip O’Neill remarked that all politics is local, he spoke in a fashion perfectly appropriate to his situation as Speaker of the House of Representatives.
We must, then, view political parties from a double perspective.
They are alliances based on principle (this is how they all originated), and they are alliances of convenience designed to enable Congressmen to extract goodies for their constituents back home. In other words, they arise from and nourish deliberation concerning the common good, and they provide occasion for negotiation with an eye to particular goods to be allotted to particular individuals or groups. In consequence, our parties oscillate between two extremes. In some circumstances, they operate as parties of principle; in others, as parties of patronage. Most of the time, they occupy, in an uncomfortable and awkward fashion, the middle ground.
When a party comes to power at a moment of realignment, it tends towards the former extreme and for a time it short-circuits the separation of powers by uniting the legislative, the executive, and, by hook or by crook, even the judicial power in the hands of a single group intent on governing with an eye to specific principles. But once the members of that party have set things right according to their lights, it runs out of gas, and the underlying structure – the separation of powers – reasserts itself; and though a single party may control both houses of the legislature and the presidency, its members are, at least some of the time, at one another’s throats. They cannot afford to ignore their constituents back home, and each is apt to defend the prerogatives accorded the office he holds. When someone referred to the Republicans as the enemy, Tip O’Neill snorted and replied, “No, the Senate is the enemy! The Republicans are the Opposition.”
Party members are reminded that they are men of principle when they think that they are faced with a conspiracy. This is where Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and the stalwarts of the first Republican Party stood when they charged Alexander Hamilton and the Federalist with plotting the establishment in the United States of a monarchy. This is where Andrew Jackson and his fellow Democrats stood when they denounced Nicholas Biddle and the Second National Bank. That is where Abraham Lincoln and the Republicans in and after 1860 stood when they railed against the slave-power conspiracy. This is where Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his fellow Democrats stood in 1936 when the former charged that “a small group” of his fellow Americans was intent on concentrating “into their own hands an almost complete control over other people’s property, other people’s money, other people’s labor – other people’s lives.” And this is where we stand today.
Look at what Barack Obama and the Democrats have done – with the so-called “stimulus” bill, with what they call “healthcare reform,” and with their reform of financial regulation. Each initiative involved the passage of a bill more than a thousand pages in length – which virtually no one voting on it could have read, and no one but those who framed it could have understood. Each involved a massive expansion of the federal government and massive pay-offs to favored constituencies. Each is part of a much larger project openly pursued by Progressives in the course of the last century and aimed at concentrating in the hands of “a small group” of putative experts “an almost complete control over other people’s property, other people’s money, other people’s labor – other people’s lives.” And we can now say, as FDR said in 1936, that “for too many of us life” is “no longer free” and “liberty no longer real” for we are being deprived by the government of the means by which to “follow the pursuit of happiness.” The only difference is that FDR’s assertions were lies, and when we make the same claim, we are, alas, telling the truth.
This is where we stand today. And there is more. As I have argued repeatedly in the last twelve months – here, here, and here – Barack Obama represents the last gasp of the Progressive impulse, and his ruthlessness and that of his party in both the House and the Senate reflect a species of desperation on their part. The welfare state is no longer sustainable. Thanks to modern medicine, we live longer lives than did our predecessors; and thanks to Social Security, we have fewer children. In consequence, the demographic balance between those expected to pay into the system and those on the receiving end has shifted gradually and unobtrusively but nonetheless dramatically in favor of the latter, and soon the former will no longer have the wherewithal to pay the dues they owe.
This needs to be underlined. The massive increase in taxation required to pay for the as-yet unfunded pensions of civil servants nearing retirement and the increase required to sustain Social Security and Medicare would so radically change the incentives and alter the conduct of those who earn and invest that the tax intake would be far more likely to decline than increase. This may seem counter-intuitive but it is a fact. The trouble with socialism was accurately described by Margaret Thatcher: sooner or later you really do run out of other people’s money, and here is how it happens.
Just as a tax reduction can stimulate economic activity and eventuate in an increase in revenues, so can a tax increase reduce economic activity and eventuate in a decrease in revenues. The more dramatic the change in the tax code, the more dramatic the effect. When human beings know that they can keep the bulk of what they make, they are apt to work like the devil and invest in new technology. When they know that most of what they make will be taken from them and redistributed to others, they are far more apt to take the day off and relegate their savings to treasury bills and municipal bonds.
Everything that Barack Obama has attempted to accomplish in the last eighteen months flies in the face of economic reality, and the American people are not as economically illiterate today as they were in 1932 and 1936. They look at the deficits run up in the last two years; they contemplate his healthcare reform; and they know that they will be called upon to pay and pay and pay. They are rightly afraid of the consequences, and a great many of them are also furious. What was sold as hope and change is likely to leave them hopeless and in possession of little but small change – and, as the polling data confirms, to an ever-increasing degree, they recognize this fact.
We as a people have come to a crossroads. We can acquiesce in what the Democrats have forced down our throats; we can meekly accept Obamacare, the confiscatory taxes that will come with it, and the rationing of medical care that Obama and his minions intend to impose on us. Or we can fight – but this can only be done through a political party, and the party we have to work with – the Republican Party – is at the moment a party of patronage frustrated at being driven from the heights of power and more apt to mouth slogans designed to mollify our zeal than to act in concert as a party of principle intent on setting things right.
To get a sense of the obstacles we face, I suggest that those who have gotten this far in perusing this post take a close look at the last four chapters of my book Soft Despotism, Democracy’s Drift, where I chart and attempt to explain the growth of the administrative state both in the United States and abroad; sample the blogposts linked here and found here, where I discuss more recent developments; and then read and re-read the brilliant and disturbing analysis of our present discontents that Angelo M. Codevilla has published in the current issue of The American Spectator (which is available online here).
As Codevilla and I have argued in different but complementary ways, what is required is a return to first principles carried out at the ballot box and enforced on the hapless hacks in the Republican Party by a public sentiment fierce, fully aroused, and no longer willing to tolerate half measures. What is needed is a peaceful revolution that restores civil equality, that does away with “affirmative action” and protected legal categories, that eliminates the redistributionist apparatus imposed upon us gradually over the last century, that eventuates in a principled rejection of government subsidies of every kind, and that restores to the states and the localities the prerogatives that are rightly theirs. Anything short of this will merely slow down our gradual descent into servitude.






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Gee…and they've been calling me crazy for years for saying we have to get rid of medicare, medicaid, social security, public funding for schools, welfare, WIC, and all other public funding of just about anything, except what governments are supposed to do, infrastructure, stuff like roads, cops and firemen, parks and things. Voluntary taxes is the only way to go. Ben Franklin said it long before I did, that's where I got the idea.
Marvelous commentary. Each time I read one of your articles I come away invigorated and feeling refreshed. Also, thank you for the links.
Well worth the time to read. GREAT.
I pledge to be
"public sentiment fierce, fully aroused, and no longer willing to tolerate half measures."
I'm not sure if this "partisanship" could get any worse than it is right now. I understand living in the "now" ruins your perspective, but it sure seems we are just days away from literally fighting in the streets. There is no reasoning.
"What is needed is a peaceful revolution that restores civil equality, that does away with “affirmative action” and protected legal categories, that eliminates the redistributionist apparatus imposed upon us gradually over the last century, that eventuates in a principled rejection of government subsidies of every kind, and that restores to the states and the localities the prerogatives that are rightly theirs. Anything short of this will merely slow down our gradual descent into servitude."
Eloquent.
I fear the peaceful part might be the only part that is incorrect. I pray I am wrong.
What we need is an end to dishonorable men and women who feel entitled and have turned our government at all levels into an oligarchy operating in the fashion of a mafia (but with less business sense).
I have felt for some time that the next assault on our system of government will be the usurpation of states' power (aided and abetted by populous blue states) by the elimination of the electoral college, if not by an outright constitutional amendment, then the coordinated efforts by enough of these liberal states to bypass the electoral college system by casting votes wholely tied to the popular vote.
The electoral college was enacted by our magnificent forefathers as a means of preserving states rights and as a check on the powers of the federal government. If it is not preserved, selection of President will forever be in the hands of the liberal coastal states.
Sounds to me as though Mr. Rahe is calling for RINO's to be flushed from the Republican Party at the ballot box…something I have advocated for a long time now. It IS time for the GOP to return to its principles once again. It's time they remembered that patronage destroys lives. As Benjamin Franklin famously observed, "They best way to help a man out of poverty is to make him uncomfortable in his poverty". The best way to do that is through lower taxes and less regulation…the combination that creates the most opportunities for ALL citizens.
In conclusion: if you want this to once again be the Land of Opportunity, America, vote for principled Republican candidates in the upcoming primaries and elections. And once elected, never let them forget that it was principles that put them there. Do not allow them to degenerate into a party of patronage once again. Refuse the hand-out. Demand opportunity!
I'm with you Cowboy! I'm afraid 'peaceful' might not be an option…however I hope that we are BOTH wrong on that! the world just seem to be getting more insane every day…With all the dirty laundry coming out about the candidates we have now, it's getting impossible to even trust any of them…scary!
Absolutely! How do we even find 'honorable' candidates anymore, to serve this great country!??
We must not acquiesce, or fall back into a conservative apathy, where if we don’t like something, we can simply say “screw it!” …and resume our lives. This will only allow the parasite class (democrats or other Washington statist) more power, and the ability to confiscate money at the point of a gun…legally- – at least in Washington! We are indeed at a crossroads for our great country, and ignoring politics is something that we can no longer afford, and our unfortunate vehicle for this complicated journey is the RNC. Just remember it will take several election cycles, and it’s up to us to help them find their courage. The Ruling Class will not go into a the sweet goodnight without a fierce fight…so lock-n-load America the challenge is now!
To perform your cleansing the tax structure and loan system would need purging to balance the economy, not to mention an isolationist policy which even I would cringe at. Mr. Franklin's(whom I admire greatly) economic skills equal Obama's. The greatness of America is in it's American Pragmatic thought, by this we have survived, conquered and conquered again even when defeated by oppressors.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FEEL WHEN YOU MUST GET PAST A BUREAUCRAT LIKE SHIRLEY
SHERROD FOR YOUR HEALTH CARE, ……………….hhhhmmmm????
Will we DARE not donate and support each party that may gain power, lest we be denied services by the
almighty Regime whether it be D, R or I ?
FoP
"Or we can fight – but this can only be done through a political party, and the party we have to work with – the Republican Party – is at the moment a party of patronage frustrated at being driven from the heights of power and more apt to mouth slogans designed to mollify our zeal than to act in concert as a party of principle intent on setting things right."
The two great conservative insurgencies within the Republican party in my lifetime were Barry Goldwater in '64 and Ronald Reagan in '80. Goldwater was soundly defeated by LBJ and the Rockefeller wing of the party regained the upper hand. Reagan won the Presidency but had no support in Congress and the Bush wing regained ascendancy. Unlike the Democrat party which has been totally co-opted by the progressive left the Republicans are ripe for a third insurgency. Hopefully the third time is a charm.
Entrenched power within the party need to be forced out and good people installed instead. People who stand for the Constitution, the rule of law, limited government and individual freedom. The Republican party would become the true party of the people. The only power these people have is the power that you give them. Deny them that power and they will blow away like dust in the wind.
Idealism aside the alliances of old although changed in approach of control still exists, which is why there is fear of an semi-organized group of Partiers that may expose or derail the new order path they desire. Only after time are they brazen enough to leave in the open their actions (explore how Garfield was "elected"). Both Adams (were elitists obtuse snobs, although brilliant in their own rights) noted the partisanship. As much as things change they stay the same, so vote Mr Smith in and produce change away from powerful political dual party system.
Dittos! The GOP needs to pick up 39 seats in the House in November to take control of the chamber. God ~ I pray for a miracle!
Sessions predicts slightly over 40 House seats gained by Republicans.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/109419-sessi...
when you wake up in the morning convinced,……
there is no Higher Authority,…………………….
there is created a huge void to fill,…………..
when you are super thirsty,………
why would you want to fill your glass with something other than,…….
pure fresh cool water.
Political parties, like all other human endeavors,…………….
can not go it alone without Him.
Thank you Paul. This is spot on… "anything less" than return to first principles through peaceful and total revolution is only more of the same and will be totally unacceptable to most citizens.
How can "principles" be considered while Washington has a system that rewards those who find ways to trample on the rights of people while simultaneously enriching the ruling class. If November doesn't bring a stop to the madness, I am afraid at what the outcome of this tyrannical regime will be for our nation.
William Wallace: There's a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.
- Braveheart – 1995
It would be real refreshing if both/all political parties directed their actions and energies toward making the United States a better Country, not toward keeping their party in power at the expense of the Country as a whole.
Troll alert! They're out in full force today!
MMmmmmm do you have any new recipes for troll, I am burned out on troll-soup after the last attack.
Perhaps :
BBQ troll, marinated in beer?
Pot Roasted troll?
Troll tacos?, Burritos?
I'm trying to invent a troll casserole, what veg would be good in a troll casserole? Suggestions?
can't believe the coverage being given to 20 yr old Lindsey Lohan. Here are a few 20 year-olds worth knowing about… Justin Allen 23, Brett Linley 29, Matt Weikert 29, Justus Bartett 27, Dave Santos 21, Chase Stanley 21, Jesse Reed 26, Matthew King 23, Christopher Goeke 23, & Sheldon Tate 27. These are just a few that GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR YOU THIS WEEK.
The government can not save you from the pain of life, but it can take the joy from life. The Republicans and democrats are master manipulators and they seem hold all the cards. They are like a cheating spouse, never taking responsibility and always blaming someone else for their selfish ways. Too many people play the forgiving spouse tolerating their spouse’s cheating ways as long they bring home the bacon and nothing else, but they brought home a disease that will kill us all. It is not they who must take responsibility it is you, they have no power unless you give it to them. They can only abuse you if you stay with them. There is no party without party members. Accountability and honor is yours too defend and hold. Both republicans and democrats fear destruction of the party system, for they will lose their power and thus control over you..
Our troops do not fight for riches or fame, but for us. They are our family members and not mercenaries to be discarded after the battle. There is nothing more sacred to a republic than equal representation and nothing more evil than to silence the voice of someone who left pieces of themselves on the field of battle. The polarizing forced collectivism of the two party system using the evil act of gerrymandering effectively silences the voice of our heroes, it divides our country, it has bankrupted our country. Gerrymandering is the key tool the progressives use to gain power and to maintain it. Gerrymandering is one party rule on the local level.
A political party is a private function, not a government function. The moment that it became a government function then it is government party not a private party. Using the power of government to restrict or inhibit all other political parties or the single individual is one party rule and thus socialism. They might call themselves republicans and or democrats, but they are government parties and thus voice of government and not consistent with our founding principles and direct attack upon the simple virtues, the gifts of god that went into the writing of the constitution. The two party system is a forced collectivism and prohibits free association by the most evil act of all, join or you will have no say. It is the reason congress, the government itself refuse to listen to the people.
I'm thinking butter-braised troll with squash and potatoes.
mmmmm red or white wine with that?
To perform "my" cleansing, the tax structure would be eliminated. You want to pay tax? Send it in, or better yet, don't, donate it instead to a project you support, like a local bridge, or homeless shelter.
The economy does not need to be "balanced" in any way. If you think so, please state exactly how and why, don't just throw a fancy sounding assertion out there, since I (nor anyone else, I'm sure) has any idea what it means.
Again, it's YOUR assertion that it would require an isolationist policy. I don't see this at all, so if you're going to make the claim, please back it up with reasoning.
I'm glad you know so much about Ben Franklin and how much he knows about things. I think it's more likely you wish to ridicule old Ben just because you think the idea ridiculous and you actually don't know crap about Benjamin Franklin and his qualifications for anything.
And you may state what you wish about America's greatness, but that doesn't make you the arbiter, our greatness is this, and nothing else. Our greatness comes from self-reliance as much as "American Pragmatic thought" (which I'm betting you'll define as anything that agrees with you). Taxes require the populace to become dependent upon the government to do what is their own responsibility. After all, can you find one single responsibility that wasn't first a personal one?
"by this we have survived, conquered and conquered again"? Where did we conquer? And it's great that you've given all the credit for "conquering" to just our pragmatic thought. Glad our indominatable spirit, or our inventiveness, or our just plain stubborness didn't have anything to do with it. And, refresh my memory, but when were we defeated by an oppressor?
Me, I'm for Troll House Cookies!
I agree with everything you say here, but we need to establish not just the fact that we need to do this, but HOW can we accomplish it without devolving into the trap of coercion. Economic dislocation will be inevitable. Take for example the massive AGW clientele that has been developed. Academics have become dependent on government grants, journalists have written to support the academics, companies have invested in infrastrucure to build the "green" economy, and politicians have been bought to provide government largesse. This is only one example. There are hundreds of similar issue groups.
The words of some of our fathers are laid in granite, but the trial of time has worn down their connotations and thus are vulnerable to scheming and servitude. The simple virtues that formed our government are being exploited to chain us to a course unattended by those who did the writing. We have lost our measure of what it means to be an American to the corruption of our government.
The measure of ourselves and our government is the devotion in our belief in individual sovereignty. When this measure is swept silent, then America will cease to exist. This is not a game, it is all of our lives, our country, our freedom and our posterity to defend or suffer. You can not steal another man’s freedom without the selling of your own, that is the lessen of history. Once government feasts upon the freedom of man it will not stop.
The freedom libretto of politicians are hollow compared to the deeds of soldiers who felt the lessons of fortitude in the test of treason to a King. There is nothing more sacred than individual freedom, for it was the individual’s sacrifice of blood, body, and life at North Bridge in 1775 that gave meaning to our words of freedom before a single word of liberty was cast on our sacred documents.
That eternal vow sealed in blood to freedom is the essence, the alpha and the omega of America. The spark of freedom conceived in the moment of treason to a king is both intrinsic and inherent to and of America.
Today, our government has become feral and the talk of freedom dismissed to placate the irresolute and corruptible so it may finish it’s task of conformity and total power. The law of the land was perverted by gerrymandering and other election laws to gives us the illusion of representation and thus an mirage of self governance to give the few the power over the many. Our liberty is being stolen one progressive tax, one progressive regulation, one progressive manipulation at a time and all in the name of the public good or is it for government good or is it the for the power and wealth of the few. We have arrived at a time when government picks who will succeed and who will fail and we are quickly approaching the dictation of who will live and who will die at the whim of a politician.
Deep fried troll ….smothered ….covered…… chunked……Darn….now I'm hungry…..
Wait a second … a couple things HAVE to be cleared up here:
1. This is Abraham Lincoln's views on race:
"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality."
I have never heard any student of history argue that "That is where Abraham Lincoln and the Republicans in and after 1860 stood when they railed against the slave-power conspiracy." Just READ the Senate's resolution in 1861 — it had NOTHING to do with slavery. And how can it be a "slave-power" conspiracy when the census data of the day says that roughly 3.5 percent of the entire population were Africans. AND Mississippi had already started to put equality laws on the books. AND a SOUTHERN judge freed Dredd Scott.
2. Are you really going to use FDR as an example of the fight against tyranny??? He IGNORED all of Stalin's crimes, and gave him everything he wanted at Yalta. I don't care what FDR said — this country has NEVER had a bigger enemy of freedom than that villain.
You want real friends of freedom, and an example of principles over party? Look at Calvin Coolidge: "Nothing is easier than the expenditure of public money. It doesn't appear to belong to anyone. The temptation is overwhelming to bestow it on somebody."
I agree with a lot of your conclusions here, but your history is WAY off.
My concern is how the DC Marxist plan to control the military to do their bidding. The budget will be trimmed by Obama and his souless kind who can justify cold blooded murder while singing about the sacrifices for the good for the many. The sacrifices: the old, the sick, the independent, and those resistant to the Marxist plans. They will be sacrificed for the failed dreams and power of the Communist. Like so many say: I hope I am wrong.
If we concern ourselves with what those who have been living high "on the hog" at taxpayer expense for however long – five years or fifty years – no genuine reform will happen. Choose the worst parts of the federal bureaucracy and repeal their enabling legislation, first: Healthcare "Reform", Stimulus1 and 2, TARP – in short, just about every law passed by this Congress – second, pass laws prohibiting the bureaucrats in every agency and department from writing new "regulations" or "rules" because that's what Congress is supposed to do and the bureaucrats are part of the Executive Branch; third, do away with the subsidies on and legal requirements for "bio-fuels" including ethanol and "bio-diesel"; fourth, pass a statute explicitly denying the President or any other member of the Executive Branch to create "czars" and follow up on that with another expressedly disestablishing any and all agencies and/or "czars" appointed or created by any president ever.
(continued from last post): Then we can sit down and figure out budget and debt issues without worrying that some unelected, "elitist", "progressive" bureaucrat is going to refuse to enforce the law as it is written. Maybe a Constitutional amendment limiting bills to one subject, with a title or caption that truly reflects its contents and no longer than – say 250 pages, 8 x 10 &1/2 inches. Then we'll have a little breathing room to work out the rest of a program to restore freedom to this country without bankrupting each other in the process of doing so.
Still talking to yourself and as grammatically ignorant as ever, I see. Good luck with that whole "no party" thing. You're going to need it.
I see you are still a socialist. Our troops do not fight for riches or fame, but for us. They are our family members and not mercenaries to be discarded after the battle. There is nothing more sacred to a republic than equal representation and nothing more evil than to silence the voice of someone who left pieces of themselves on the field of battle. The polarizing forced collectivism of the two party system using the evil act of gerrymandering effectively silences the voice of our heroes, it divides our country, it has bankrupted our country. Gerrymandering is the key tool the progressives use to gain power and to maintain it. Gerrymandering is one party rule on the local level.
Here is a road map for America to resume on the path of economic prosperity, and for the future of US.
Paul Ryan and his plan for US. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8418762
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/
I appreciate the link, W76. Just to make myself more clearly understood, when I say conservative I mean completely conservative. That means both fiscally AND socially. We need to return to some Biblical principles in this country if we want it to return to the way it was meant to be. Honesty, humility, hard work, voluntary charity…it really IS all about character and values.
Only when we combine both fiscal and social conservatism will this country truly begin to heal. It's not something we can legislate. It has to come from the true desire of our own hearts.
I found a real navy seal. He is an independent running for 5th district state of Oklahoma. It is sad he must battle corruption just to get his voice heard. http://davewhite2010.com/
While I agree with you that eliminating the Electoral College is a bad idea, I don't accept your conclusion that such a change would necessarily increase the power of the coastal states.
However, I do believe that the 17th Amendment should be repealed and elections to the U.S. Senate should be returned to state legislatures.
To me, this post comes down to just a few troubling words: "our gradual descent into servitude."
In reality, Baracky's spiderweb of Hope and Chains
Also comment on: "The only difference is that FDR’s assertions were lies, and when we make the same claim, we are, alas, telling the truth." Add, sixty million plus murdered, and lost souls by "Planned Murderhood" that could have been potential taxpayers.
Tax cuts on the rich do NOT increase revenue!. Reagan's tax cuts for the rich led to a TRIPLING of the national debt! And the Bush tax cuts led to a DOUBLING of the national debt!
The rich dont invest it in jobs, they invest it in hedge fund derivative bubbles or bank it in an offshore account.
Simple things may sound good, but are seldom simple, for banning the stars and bars and lawn jockeys as racist is also a simple fallacy. A cold Straub awaits me so I'll make this short and uncomplicated for you doc., Flat tax. Pragmatic thought is from the American analytical great William James, of that great American family of the Jamses. Have a great weekend and do not watch the Asian Market.
By all means let us clear things up.
You quote from Lincoln's reply to Stephen Douglas in the first Lincoln Douglas debate at Ottowa, Illinois. Two sentences later, Lincoln goes on to say,
"… I hold that notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas that he is not my equal in many respects — certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man."
I believe the last sentence is the important piece, not the excerpt you have quoted.
I take Lincoln's position on the slave power conspiracy to be tolerably well elaborated in the "house divided" address. (http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/house.htm).
You do not specify the senate resolution which you cite, but this has no bearing on the slave power conspiracy. Lincoln's stated position on slavery during the secession crisis was that he would not interfere with slavery in those states where it was established but he would oppose extension of slavery into any of the U.S. territories (not organized as states). The seceding states took this as casus belli. The primary stated war aim of the Union was not to end slavery but to suppress the armed rebellion started by the army of the Confederate states at Fort Sumter.
Regarding the percentage of slaveholders, I do not accept in principle that a group must necessarily be large to be powerful. However, working from raw figures, the Census of 1860 gives 393,975 (an over-count to an uncertain extent) to 8,039,000 white inhabitants of the slave states, which is 4.9% of the population. If we reduce the denominator by taking it as male inhabitants, that should double the percentage to 9.8%. If we assume the fraction of white male inhabitants over the age of 18 equals 75% (a guess; however, the Census of 1860 estimates that 20% of the population consist of white men between 18 and 45), then the percentage rises to 13.4%.
All of these numbers are somewhat arbitrary, but so is your 3.5%. I have heard in the past that 25% of Southern farms had at least one slave, but I can't source the figure.
Regarding your comments on President Roosevelt I generally agree, but I think that Roosevelt's malevolently inept domestic policy is a more important charge against him than his foreign policy.
I agree with your sentiments about President Coolidge, but I don't see how you can construe them as an instance of principles over party.
First, you condemn simple things, then you condescendingly say you'll make it simple for me…let me make this simple for you, simpleton…people have different ideas, you disagreeing with them doesn't make them bad.
I'll make this short and uncomplicated for YOU, butthead. You don't just toss little statements in here, like you were some expert, such as pragmatic thought was from someone famous, so you're stupid.
As far as a flat tax goes, I'd love to argue this one, but there's really only one argument. The restaraunt argument should do nicely.
Ten guys go into a cafe to buy lunch. Bob, unemployed, gets free food, as does three others who are underemployed or minorities or have exemptions (and if you think there won't be any exemptions, you don't know politicians). The next two guys have to pay two bucks each, and the next two five bucks each. The next guy, he makes a hundred dollars, so he pays ten bucks, and the next guy, he pays fifty bucks.
Sound fair?
Only if you're a communist, and you go by the principle of Karl Marx…"FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY" as decided by some authority bent on taking the money in order to give "TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED", as determined by their support groups and who they think deserve it.
Communism.
Either you divide the total tax bill evenly amongst the people, or you have voluntary taxes. But of course, this is probably totally over your head, since Burke, Sowell, James, etc., have never spoken of it, this must mean you're completely ignorant of it.
I love you guys who decided for everyone what conservatism is, what a good and bad idea is. No debate, just smart comments like you were real intellegent.
And once again, no evidence, simply assertions with no basis or reasoning. Hard to argue with what's not there.
And what's with the Asian market comment?
DITTO. I knew that and that is why I shared the link with you.
Rahe and Codevilla are spot-on in identifying the problem. However returning to first principles and resetting to the Constitution, though desirable, would seem kind of vague as solutions. Both would require massive repeals of legislation passed throughout the entirety of our country's history and a complete restructuring of much of the societal order. This is not a thing of one election: It is a multi-generational task.
I have two suggestions: Reform the Republican party first through term limits and a waiting period both for joining and quitting the party.
Term limits for Republicans would eliminate long-term incumbency, encourage the election of ideologues, and let people know that we are serious about true reform by starting with ourselves. Long-term incumbency is key to joining the ruling class, a huge factor in pork barrel spending (a la Robert Byrd), aids in the accumulation of power by individual elected officials while destroying the desire to use cumulative, cohesive party power, and factors heavily in the attitudes that lead to corruption. Ideologues, in contrast, are motivated not by individual power, but by the convictions that led to their elections and a desire to cooperate with other members of their party to achieve their desired ends, since they will not be around long enough to enjoy careers in the public sector. Rather, they'll be ready to return to the private sector when their time has expired. When this happens, people will see that we are serious about reform and will be drawn (over the long term) to the party.
Waiting periods for joining and quitting the party would also increase the election of ideologues by upping the ante on being a serious Conservative, and would decrease the likelihood that other voters would cross party lines to elect bad candidates in primaries. Limbaugh's 'Operation Chaos' shows what can happen when a party does not protect itself.
Actually, this is also what Lincoln said after my quote: "And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."
I don't think what he said at the end, cancels out everything else. At the very least, it says he was a raging sycophant — which is probably why Obama likes him. He was also very deft at political sleight-of-hand, which is evidenced in the Gettysburg Address. No one had ever heard of equality as a reason for the war before that, and desertion rates were some of the highest in history after the speech. My point is that Lincoln was a man of great hypocrisy.
And what about this: "If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that."
Regarding Fort Sumpter, Southerners felt — as I do — that Lincoln provoked the reaction by refusing to meet with Confederate diplomats before the episode. He basically admitted it when he wrote Assistant Secretary of the Navy Gustavus Fox: "You and I both anticipated that the cause of the country would be advanced by making the attempt to provision Fort-Sumpter [sic], even if it should fail; and it is no small consolation now to feel that our anticipation is justified by the result."
And, actually, the 1860 census says only %8 of families owned slaves. That includes northern states as well.
Considering the decades of protectionist policies aimed at the south, and Lincoln's pledge to Northern industry to enforce tariffs, there's more of a Northern-industrial conspiracy than any slave conspiracy.
One of the things he said to the South repeatedly was ""We are going to make tax slaves out of you, and if you resist, there will be an invasion."
Cutting taxes creates revenue when you have more people keep the money they make and they spend it as they see fit in the market. Then sale and other taxes take benifit and create revenue that way. What the government really needs to do is to stop the meaningless spending. The government spends far more money than it brings in and there hints the deficit.
Not all rich do invest in jobs, but those who are expanding companies and francies do. Besides, its not like the government is doing a good job at creating jobs either. Actually, they are doing a far worse job than many of the rich entrepreneur would.
A really great article. Well done.
People like Paul A. Rahe need to rally LEADERSHIP in cutting spending. By writing a windy political essay detached from the realities of our approaching austerity, and by that I mean advocating tax cuts, he joins the same tired crew that won't let Jack Kemp stay dead.
It doesn't work, Mr. Rahe. We happily take the tax cut money and run, in contempt of the debts we've been leaving behind. There's at least 30 years of proof for you to stare upon. And when you refresh yourself, realize we haven't been in any major war during that time. And by attempting to fire up the war apparatus, which is most likely also in your repertoire, you make of yourself a Keynsian as bad as any progressive.
Stop the BS and cut the STUPID SPENDING. You want servitude, keep failing at achieving any bipartisan LEADERSHIP in real spending cuts. You are weak if you don't politic your own damn party to point to where they will point to their cuts. It's absolutely gutless…and it looses votes.
Economic sanity such as balanced budgets especially during positive GDP quarters is or at least should not be partisan it should be the accepted starting point. Once debt is at sensible levels according to accounting not ideology then their could be partisan bickering about how to best meet a particular social need.
Those who reach old age very often need to be cared for. Soc Secuity , a 1930's program could be said to be about this need. How many of us would demand we still use the cars or telephones of the 1930's? Certainly thoughts about caring for the elderly are normal but demanding no change to 1930's programs for partisan reasons is silly. Discuss away! Experiments of all sorts should take place on the local level to see what is best. If something really works it could very well become the desired approach around the country. This does not mean the government should be doing all these things, it really means the government should be doing as few as possible because needs are being met , competed over and solved in the most efficient manner. The government is too inefficient and corrupt to be entrusted with important matters. Witness the power lobbiests have and give the rich whether it is corporations or individuals by means of legal or illegal bribery. The government stifles competition and thus efficiency and successful solutions to problems.
Shows how the nation's priorities have been hijacked. Your post definitely points us back to what really matters. Thanks, and our prayers go out to the families of these young people, and to the young people who are serving our country.
We have almost reached the point where only "the rich" are paying any taxes! I believe the report was that approx. 45% of Americans pay any taxes. BTW, how many times has a "poor" person written you or anyone else a paycheck? Bush's tax cuts did not lead to doubling the debt. Taxes collected actually increased. Increased spending increased the debt.
drink a beer dude, hug a puppy, relax. Argument for argument's sake is fun only face to face. Nowhere in history are taxes fair, social justice is from Marx, life was, is and will always be unfair. The interdependency of human social structure is fragile, and might will always be right. It annoys me that we live in a world that people do not think things through.
"money makes the world go around"
you used that politicians would pervert the flat tax and who could argue that a politician would not be able to fowl up a one car funeral procession.
"Economic sanity such as balanced budgets especially during positive GDP quarters is or at least should not be partisan it should be the accepted starting point."
Exactly. It is those who believe in making us run on credit that are bankrupting us, slowing our growth.
"Once debt is at sensible levels according to accounting not ideology then their could be partisan bickering about how to best meet a particular social need."
First, sensible levels would be zero. All debt is bad, no matter what the economists say. Just like Keynes was wrong, there are reasons why all debt is wrong, too. However, remove those reasons, and some small short term debt could be positive, but not always, and it's when debt goes bad that problems arise. Fix a couple of those problems, and it could work. However, there should be NO effort on the part of the government to meet ANY social need. That is for charities and public generosity.
"Those who reach old age very often need to be cared for."
Because we have the crutch of Social Security, and the lie that it will be there and will be enough for your retirement. This makes people feel like they have a safety net, and they refuse to save or they invest unwisely. Take this away, and you have to make your own retirement, and watch how much people put back in savings and how careful they are with it. This pool of money is the major drawback to social security, because it gives stability to our economy. Unfortunately, the Government took it, then spent it, and IOU's don't give much stability.
(my apology for all the replies, but I can't get it to accept the longer post, even with edit)
"Soc Secuity , a 1930's program could be said to be about this need."
That was the selling point, but it was simply one of the first attempts at redistribution of income. It needs to be scrapped. The most glaring reason is that you should be able to get out if you put in, but unless you're poor or you failed in life, you don't get to draw it. That level of means testing will go down in the future, while the contributions of those who will never see a dime will go up. This is what should tell you it's not about retirement.
"How many of us would demand we still use the cars or telephones of the 1930's?"
Non-Sequitar. One has nothing to do with the other. Socialism isn't technology that can be improved, only repackaged and resold.
"Certainly thoughts about caring for the elderly are normal but demanding no change to 1930's programs for partisan reasons is silly."
Both sides demand change, we just have differing ideas on whether to kill it or fund it.
"Discuss away! Experiments of all sorts should take place on the local level to see what is best."
The only way to do this is the remove the Federal control of it, which is to dismember it, and put it in the hands of the individual states, which is what you're proposing. Great, I'm all for it, but let's get rid of it, and then let's see if anyone wants to vote that Ponzi scheme back in, okay? I'm betting no, but we'll see. And if it gets in, it should be voluntary, not mandantory.
"If something really works it could very well become the desired approach around the country. This does not mean the government should be doing all these things, it really means the government should be doing as few as possible because needs are being met , competed over and solved in the most efficient manner. The government is too inefficient and corrupt to be entrusted with important matters."
Great idea. I hope you're with us the next time the Fed wants to make a law for everyone. Every law means a bigger government.
"Witness the power lobbiests have and give the rich whether it is corporations or individuals by means of legal or illegal bribery."
Class warfare is wrong. Poor people aren't any more deserving than the rich, mostly because the same person could be in both classes a month apart. All laws should be designed to be the same for rich or poor, black or white, young or old.
"The government stifles competition and thus efficiency and successful solutions to problems."
Which is bad, everywhere there should be competition, but those rare situations when a monopoly is required, government is the only solution, and its myriad problems must be dealt with. Military, Foreign Diplomacy, all sorts of interstate problems, and others, SHOULD be the Fed's jurisdiction. But the rest should be removed. Social laws should be eliminated. Only with direct harm and malice is there a justifiable reason to charge someone. Accidents happen, and you should be prepared to split the costs, or absorb it yourself.
Imagine if all these safety nets were removed. Imagine how much money people would have to put back just to make themselves able to sleep at night. Imagine if we, instead of handing our kids a ton of national debt and a small chunk of college debt as they move into their cheap apartment with their high interest furniture, imagine if instead we were to leave our children with a hundred grand, just for a START on their emergency fund, a paid-for house full of furniture, and a college or trade school education paid for. Can you imagine if we all had that as a goal, not a dream, but a goal, one that we tried hard every day to accomplish, or accomplish most of it?
But instead, we're taught to borrow, have insurance, and don't worry be happy. What's wrong is our attitudes, that we've become so lazy that socialism looks like the answer.
But it's NOT.
Well , in corporate accounting , debt can often be advantageous. It depends on what you do with it. Personally I have no debts and I am more comfortable that way but depending on what one does with borrowed money and the amount borrowed, it can be useful. A business with an expanding demand might want to borrow money for a new machine etc. to help them meet demand and profit from it rather than turn away business.
There are many examples where public debt would be reasonable and necessary at times. If our shores are attacked by an invading army is one major one but other peace time expensive projects like roads might be in the best interest of citizens of a particular town and they might feel it is worthwhile to take on debt for the project.
Citizens should be free to make these decisions as to what sort of community they want but it should be citizens making the decisions and paying the costs not politicians shoving things down our throats we don't want or can't pay for.
I want the government to do as little as possible and politicians to have as little control over spending as possible but with that said I want citizens to have as much freedom as possible to live as they choose.
I cared personally for 2 elderly parents. I also volunteered at a Veterans retirement home for a few years in a very small way. When you get old you need help more often than not.My parents were able to live in their home and we cared for our own. They did have social security and medicare and had paid in a lot of money over the years. Had those programs not existed and they could have invested the money I believe they would have had more money in retirement rather than less.
The point I am making is that the needs of the elderly have always existed and always will. The response to these needs does not have to be some static 1930s or 1960s government program. It would probably be better done privately and in a competitive environment but I am interested in what works best.
Yes, I studied economics in college under a Keynesian, who I had very little discourse with (he seemed not inclined to listen as much as lecture, when faced with facts) and then a…what would you call us, Hayekians? who knows…anyway, he and I used to argue with this guy at lunch. That lasted about, twice, I think, and he suddenly started taking lunch elsewhere.
Debt is wonderful as an investment tool, but there is a hidden problem with debt. It's called the Central Bank. They use debt, the public debt, to control you. We can only be free if we are free of debt. If the Government wants to borrow money from its citizens, that is one thing, and as we've discussed, some debt can be a good thing. But before we can allow that, we must outlaw funding for things the PUBLIC, not their senator/congressman, want to finance. The best way to do this is voluntary taxes. If people want to fund Blankets for the Homeless, they can donate to it, and blankets will be passed out.
It's like this. The public could donate money to do something, as long as it wasn't illegal or hurt others, do it as a benevolent group, and it would be fine and dandy, a wonderful thing. But if the government took money from people through taxation to do it, it would be wrong, simply because of the way it's done.
And we should never be beholden to another country for our debt. If we do, then we risk being taken over in mind if not in body, by being controlled by threat. We should also keep the military much higher than it is now, ready to go, not ready to invest a ton of money in to get caught up. And enough put back, not just in money, but in Strategic Petroleum, in Precious Metals, in stockpiles of weapons and parts, all of it just so that going to war doesn't drain us, or force us to borrow from the Central Bankers. They fund both sides just to break their enemies, and taking their money dooms us to debt forever.
Non-Sequtor? Hardly! As I stated above the needs of the elderly is a constant. Someone other than the elderly themselves , usually family, will have to help them. "How" they are helped is a form of technology. It is just a means to solve a need. I think families should take care of their own children and elderly and smart ideas can exist as to how to do this. Years ago if you were near sighted you needed glasses , today you can be surgically healed and never need glasses again. The one time cost for sugery can save money in the long run.
If a savings plan whether private or whatever proves to be more effective that should be the "technology" used. Competition generally gives us more and better options. As in everything Caveat Emptor should be the watch word.
No one said anyone was deserving of anything . I said people with money payoff politicians to get laws , favors and contracts that benefit them. People with money to pay bribes are by definition rich when compared to people without the money to pay bribes. You can call them bribes or political contributions or lobbyist expenses but I prefer the term bribe even though they might be legal. they are what they are. That is the reason you want as little government as possible because it tends to be corrupt. This isn't about political parties it is about the incompetent , corrupt nature of governments.
I was never taught to borrow, I don't . I might if I think it will benefit me. Like a gun , debt can be effective or tragic depending on the situation.
Insurance as well can be useful or wasteful, as I said Caveat Emptor.
Socialism never looked like the answer to me for lots of reasons . One is that I see the guys selling it as just using it as a con to fool suckers. Others pushing it just might be naive. Either way I don't believe in it.
You actually bring up a couple of interesting points here. Frankly Central Banks and monetary policies seems so murky to me , and interest me so little, that my response is a preference for the smallest government possible. I like to understand things and I understand as much as I need about Big Government and I do not trust it.
Personally I think the Government cheats citizens out of the value of personal benevolent actions by trying to do everything for the "needy". There is much to be gained in terms of our own personal growth in the realm of charity. I spent years physically working to feed people, visit and comfort the dying and imprisoned. I did it for personal reasons but I chose to give to my community voluntarily with out pay in the form or work and time. This was one of the most worthwhile experiences I have had in life. I would never want to see efforts like mine made mandatory , because it defeats the spirit that makes one wish to give of oneself. I think communities should solve their own problems. Have citizens through some sort of charitable board help someone who is known to be sincere and in need and tell the mooch to buzz off. The government uses skin color and ignores hidden money or black market incomes and in many ways plays the clumsy oaf of charity. Right now , work requirement should be attached to unemployment benefits in some way. Wash windows or sweep up or whatever at your town hall or nearby home for the aged and get your benefit check. People would want to get better jobs as soon as they could rather than continue collecting.
Military spending is fine but I would prefer that we had gone to punish after 9/11 and once we spent a sufficient number of bombs teaching others it is not good to attack the US , we should come home and deal with our own problems like our border etc. Endless wars for unclear purposes makes us weaker. A short severe beating on our enemies is surer diplomacy than all this reset nonsense.
If you agree that socialism isn't the answer, then it's a non sequitar, because your example was about improving technology being better, when it's socialism itself that needs to be scrapped, not improved. Improving something doesn't make it something else, just a better form of itself. The answer to all these posts is the same. When you have insurance, or the government, or anyone else taking care of things, it wastes money, invites corruption, and costs billions, in addition to making every power-hungry politician want the job of "taking care of you", which means taking your money and spending how they see fit. Voluntary taxes would fix so much of what you describe, including teaching people to save so that they have money, reducing medical costs, improving the economy, etc., etc. Total decentralization of authority, to the smallest extent possible, not a lack of authority.
a charitable board is a government solution, eventually it will tax you and make choices to your health care…for instance, in order to reduce costs, they will consider anyone who's come back three times a mooch, or some other such nonsense. Only when we keep the choices in our hands do we keep control.
Go read The Unseen Hand, by A. Ralph Epperson. You can find it at Half Price books, usually, or on Amazon. Great background on the whole view, but there's others. Thing is, once you see how it works, you'll see it happening for yourself, every day.
THIS IS FUNNY BUT TRUE, A LEARNED GENTLEMAN ON THE RADIO SAID THOSE PEOPLE IN WASH DC COULDN'T MANAGE A 7-11 STORE.
HE WAS ASKED WHAT DO YOU THINK OUR GREAT FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD DO WHEN THEY FOUND OUT THEIR COUNTRY HAD A 13+ TRILLION DEBT, HE SAID THERE WOULD BE RAPID CONSTRUCTION OF
MULTIPLE GALLOWS !!
The Liberals / Progressives are Communists and will if given a chance remove all opposition by force.
History has told this story over and over again. The progresive plan
1. take over the media (well for the most part that has been accomplished) Fox and the internet are being attacked!
2. now that the press is on your progressive side start the executions for the good of the country.
3. any ispeech or legal action against the will of the progressives will be muted.
This is OBAMA , the Black Panthers, ACORN, etc. platform.
If we do not stop it now in 2010 there will be attrcities against the american people by it's government within 2 years.
"The rich dont invest it in jobs, they invest it in hedge fund derivative bubbles or bank it in an offshore account. " Uh, and where does that capital go then? Does it just sit in a bank account somewhere? No, it's cycled out to invest in what one hopes are productive enterprises.
In any case, it is their money and they have the moral and (for a while yet) legal right to do with it as they please.
By the way, I trust you can provide some references for your assertion that tax cuts led to a tripling (and later another (?) doubling) of the national debt.
The dishonesty here is mind boggling. I am at a loss for words.
Their money? Really? They can "do with it as they please" works when their actual labor produces tangible results. Playing with other peoples money to enrich oneself doesn't qualify as hard work. Especially when there is no penalty for failure. You screw up in most jobs you get fired. You wipe out hard working people's life savings through your own misjudgments you get a bonus. My guess is that there were hundreds if not thousands of people who helped the very wealthy get that way. Is their effort really worth that much in comparison to the work done by others? Who decides how much they are compensated? Who decides how much they pay if they fail? This is the logic disconnect that is ruining us a country. No one is accountable. Instead they point fingers at everyone but themselves.
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