The 9/11 Mosque’s Peace Charade
by Pamela GellerBy Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer
A massive fifteen-story mosque and Islamic Center going up in what was once the shadow of the World Trade Center claims to offer “the opposite statement to what happened on 9/11.” The Center organizers, the America Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA), have worked hard in the media to portray themselves as Islamic moderates working for peace on the exact spot where their belligerent coreligionists perpetrated murder and mayhem in the name of their religion. But the words and deeds of the leader of the effort, the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, suggests a more ominous reality: Abdul Rauf is a master of deceptive, Orwellian use of language, manifesting a deep contempt for non-Muslims and full accord with the supremacist goals of the 9/11 hijackers.

So anxious were they to secure the location at Ground Zero that a Muslim real estate company paid $4.85 million in cash for the building, with part coming from Abdul Rauf’s other Islamic group, the Cordoba Initiative. It is unnerving – the deliberate speed and anxiousness that the leader of the American Society for Muslim Advancement has demonstrated in working to open a mosque at the gaping wound of Ground Zero. He claims that it will heal that wound. But how will it do that? How will a mosque, the place where jihadis go for spiritual sustenance, at Ground Zero help stop jihad terrorism? Even the name of the initiative – Cordoba – speaks volumes. While Islamic Spain is held up today as a proto-multiculturalist paradise, in reality non-Muslims there suffered under the discrimination prescribed in Islamic law for dhimmis, non-believers who were subjugated as inferiors and denied equality of rights.
ASMA seems to have deliberately sought a connection to Ground Zero for their new mosque site. Muslims are already conducting daily prayers on the site, an old Burlington Coat Factory outlet where, according to Abdul Rauf, “a piece of the wreckage fell.”
The group purports to come in peace, although it declined to send a representative to discuss the initiative with one of us on Mike Huckabee’s show on Fox News Saturday. This was after one of us confronted Islamic apologist Michael Ghouse on Sean Hannity’s radio show on Friday, exposing the insensitivity and unsavory aspects of the 9/11 Mosque project. Abdul Rauf’s group gave this statement to Huckabee:
For over a decade, the Cordoba Initiative and American Society for Muslim Advancement have worked tirelessly to build bridges with other faiths, while condemning violence, extremism, and prejudice of any sort. Our mission is to be a beacon of hope, peace, understanding and harmony to those who join us in condemning hatred and violence of any kind. Too often the question arises of why moderate, peace-loving Muslims do not speak out. We cannot think of a more wonderful expression of our religion than the Cordoba House, where American Muslims stand together with our fellow citizens to condemn extremism and terror. It is a project to honor those who were harmed on September 11th. It is a project to proclaim our patriotism to this country and to stand side-by-side all men and women of peace.
How does building a giant mosque at Ground Zero address the problem of moderate Muslims not speaking out against terrorism? How does this mosque honor those who were “harmed” – i.e., brutally murdered — on September 11? Whom does a mosque at 9/11 really honor: the Americans who lost their lives, or the jihadis who murdered them?
It’s no wonder that many have greeted such words with skepticism, seeing the Ground Zero mosque as a demonstration of supremacism and triumphalism. Debra Burlingame of 9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America, whose brother died in the Pentagon on 9/11, declared: “This is a place which is 600 feet from where almost 3,000 people were torn to pieces by Islamic extremists. I think that it is incredibly insensitive and audacious really for them to build a mosque, not only on that site, but to do it specifically so that they could be in proximity to where that atrocity happened.”
There is ample support for the idea that this Islamic Center is an insult to the victims of the 9/11 attacks. Throughout Islamic history, wherever they have conquered, Muslims have converted non-Muslim houses of worship into mosques and built mosques on the holy sites of other religions. The Dome of the Rock, built on the site of the Temple in Jerusalem, the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus built over the Church of St. John the Baptist, and the Aya Sofya mosque in Istanbul, formerly the grandest church in Christendom, are three notable examples among a great many. While at Ground Zero the mosque is not being built over the site of a synagogue or church, the same pattern of conquest and supremacism is in evidence: the World Trade Center site was a symbol of American economic power; the 9/11 Mosque is a symbol of the conquest of that power.
Abdul Rauf’s own statements, rather than allay such concerns, actually give credence to this view. He has blamed the West, rather than Islamic jihadists, for terrorism on several occasions. He has said, according to Australia’s Sun-Herald, that “the US and the West must acknowledge the harm they have done to Muslims before terrorism can end.” He has also claimed that “Western active involvement in shaping the internal affairs of Islamic societies have contributed to the creation of terrorism done in the name of Islam.”
In other words, stop fighting back. Let the jihadis do as they please.
Abdul Rauf has also called Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams’ endorsement of the implementation of Sharia courts in Britain “forward thinking” – despite Sharia’s denial of basic freedoms including the freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and equality of rights of all people before the law. He has called upon Barack Obama to emphasize “the commonality of Western and Islamic values,” claiming that “if the United States lives up to the values in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and if Muslims can live up to the principles of Islamic law, then we will find we have fewer points of conflict and more common ground.” Then all will be well: “Muslims no longer will fear Western domination and the West no longer will fear Islamic expansion.”
Does Abdul Rauf really think that the devaluation of a woman’s testimony and the institutionalized discrimination against non-Muslims, both mandated by Sharia, are really compatible with the Bill of Rights? Does he really think that stoning people to death for adultery or amputating their hands for theft are compatible with the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition of cruel and unusual punishments?
Whatever he thinks of those elements of the Constitution, he doesn’t appear overly fond of the freedom of speech. Abdul Rauf has compared the West unfavorably to the Islamic world, since the West “protects the right to say anything, no matter how insensitive or scandalous,” while Islamic cultures “balance freedom of expression with respect for elders, traditions and modesty. The idea of respect and honor to elders is deeply ingrained in their psyches.” He has criticized the Swiss ban on minarets as a restriction on religious freedom, without saying a word about the severe restrictions on non-Muslim religious practice in Islamic states such as Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, and Sudan.
In many of his public statements, Abdul Rauf is patently dishonest. After the Fort Hood jihad massacre, he claimed that the shootings were “against the laws of Islam” – a claim that looked ridiculous and deceitful after Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan’s writings came to light, explaining (with copious references to the Koran) the Islamic requirement to wage war against infidels. If Hasan was wrong and Abdul Rauf right about Islam, Abdul Rauf, as a leading American “moderate,” could have and should have seized the opportunity to explain exactly how, so as to allay the legitimate concerns of non-Muslims and emphasize to Muslims in America how and why they should be unreservedly patriotic Americans. He did not.
Abdul Rauf also has unsavory associations with pro-Sharia groups. Journalist Alyssa A. Lappen reports that “whenever Feisal first considered building a mosque across from Ground Zero, he had the idea firmly in mind by 2004, when he wrote What’s Right with Islam. The book was translated into many languages. In Indonesia’s Bahasa, its title translates as “The Call from the WTC Rubble.” Rauf promoted the book in December 2007 at a Kuala Lumpur gathering of Hizb ut Tahrir — an organization banned in Germany since 2003, and also outlawed in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, among other places — and ideologically akin to the MB. Both seek to replace the U.S. Constitution with Islamic law (sharia), and eventually impose Islam and sharia law worldwide.” The “MB” is the Muslim Brotherhood, an international Islamic organization from which come Al-Qaeda and Hamas. The Brotherhood is dedicated in its own words, according to a captured internal document, to “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within.”
Is that Feisal Abdul Rauf’s agenda as he works to build his massive Islamic Center at Ground Zero? It certainly seems so. That’s why our new group, Stop Islamization of America, is holding a rally against the 9/11 Mosque on June 6 in lower Manhattan. 9/11 families and freedom fighters including ex-Muslim human rights crusader Nonie Darwish and ex-slave Simon Deng will be speaking – and stating matters more honestly than Feisal Abdul Rauf ever has.
Pamela Geller is the editor and publisher of AtlasShrugs.com; Robert Spencer is the director of JihadWatch.org. They are the coauthors of The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War On America (coming July 27 from Simon & Schuster).






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Pamela and Robert are the real deal. All true Americans should support their efforts.
As a New Yorker who was only a few blocks away from the WTC on 9/11, this sickens me to the pit of my stomach. This is just pure dhimmitude. Our PC leaders have surrendered to the ruthless Islamic enemy. No matter what they, the government, the PC police, and the devil worshipping muslims, Islam is not a peaceful religion. Islam started has a religion of violence, grew by violence, created an Islamic society that is violent, and hopes to expand by violence. Islam means "submission", and that is what it will be perceived as. This just makes me sick. I hope the city will grow a pair of balls and stop this (though sadly, I know they will not stand up to the ISlamic scum, after all they have an ISLAMIC public school. And yes all the ACLU, Progressive/Socialist, and atheist that want all traces of Christianity wiped out of the public sphere are quiet as churchmouses, or should I say Mosquemouses)
If this monstrosity goes up, where is Obama going to put the white flag?
I am now entirely disgusted.
Sorry America… you're old news now.. you've allowed yourselves to become a divided Nation through your narrow minded politics, and now you will pay the price that you've been warned about for decades. What are you going to do? Prove that you're not a peaceful Nation welcoming others different than you and be a hateful and spiteful citizenry opposing anything that offends you, ignorant to what free speech entails, or will you succumb to change that is inevitable and fight a losing battle?
So urinating on the graves of 3,000 is now considered appropriate? Why not put a mosque at the Pentagon while we're at it!
*snort*
Don't forget about the parts in the Koran that not just allow, but advise Muslims to lie through their teeth to non-believers if it will further the cause of Islam. Whoever believes this man is deceiving themselves.
This whole thing is sickening.
Netanyahu admitted Israel benefited from the attack. Why do we still give them our tax dollars? http://www.haaretz.com/news/report-netanyahu-says...
…your narrow minded politics,…
What exactly are the correct open minded politics that we should embrace?
Prove that you're not a peaceful Nation welcoming others different than you and be a hateful and spiteful citizenry opposing anything that offends you,…
What moral rule or concept are you appealing to that makes you believe we should not oppose something that is offensive?
…will you succumb to change that is inevitable and fight a losing battle?
What exactly is that change? A caliphate in the U.S.?
They have a Islamic place of worship in the pentagon, at Annapolis, and the Air Force Academy. I don't know about West Point, but it would not surprise me.
If Islam were truly just a religion and not a political ideology, you might have at least a smidge of a point, but alas, you're way off on this one.
5 Israelis were dancing for joy and filming the WTC collapse (arrested by the FBI later). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw
Don't say they had nothing to do with it. Yet we support Israel.
Muslims aren't the problem.
No Nazi symbols are allowed in Germany. That's cleaning house.
I propose that no Islamic symbols, from burkas to buildings, be allowed in the US until all Islam renounces its terrorist tenants.
Careful what you say about Muslims or Islam. You might get your house firebombed like Lars Vilks did.
Really? Then how about allowing us to put a Christian shrine in Saudi Arabia? In Pakistan? Anywhere else that the Muslims won't allow one?
Why is it that Christian Americans always have to be tolerant?
!wow!
I did not know that.
hrmff!
Probably atop the Washington Monument. He'll have a matching one for the Statue of Liberty I'm sure though. It might be offensive to the Muslims if he didn't have one in N.Y.
"Netanyahu admitted Israel benefited from the attack"
You know what anti semit troll, you and several others of your ilk have spewed this line so many times I can't even count anymore. And I got to thinking about it. Israel did benefit from it. You know how? Because folks like me that didn't appreciate the magnitude of the threats that the Mooselimb cult poses for the free world. Because it brought to my attention the animals that these people are. Now that it has been brought to light, it has allowed me to truly sympathize with what Israel has gone through for decades. So yeah, it benefited them by allowing us to see the savage nature of their enemy.
Isn't there a comparable passage in the Talmud?
Not only is your post "hateful and spiteful," but it makes no sense. If we "succumb to change" then we've already lost, so there would be no need to "fight a losing battle." Maybe you should have gone to school today and learned something instead of hiding out in your mommy's basement playing sick.
P.S. America is a "peaceful Nation" and we have always welcomed people "different" than us, but what we don't like–and will NEVER tolerate–are radical Muslems thumbing their noses at the murder of thousands of our citizens in the name of their religion. THAT is what this mosque represents and no matter how the America Society for Muslim Advancement spins it, New Yorkers–and all Americans–KNOW IT.
Not only is your post "hateful and spiteful," but it makes no sense. If we "succumb to change" then we've already lost, so there would be no need to "fight a losing battle." Maybe you should have gone to school today and learned something instead of hiding out in your mommy's basement playing sick.
P.S. America is a "peaceful Nation" and we have always welcomed people "different" than us, but what we don't like–and will NEVER tolerate–are radical Muslems thumbing their noses at the murder of thousands of our citizens in the name of their religion. THAT is what this mosque represents and no matter how the America Society for Muslim Advancement spins it, New Yorkers–and all Americans–KNOW IT.
Give it a rest, you've become tedious.
This building permit should be denied on the grounds of basic human decency.
"change that is inevitable"
Change sucks a lot of the time. Just look at our current POTUS and his administration. I propose we "change" our country back to the way it was before the Progressives came around. Anyone with me?
On his lapel.
We are truly a lost culture when you see this, "in-your-face" act. Multiculturalism gone wild. Let's build a Catholic church in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
No, no there isn't.
Spot on.
Well this answers the questions why for so many years, time after time, "Why hasn't ground zero been rebuilt?What is taking so long?" It seems this could be the answer. It has probably been in the works since the day the towers went down.
I am sure Daniel Pearl's family will be comforted to know that.
Yet, you believe the initial claim?
The Mosque will be built. It is symbolic, a triumph, nearly 3,000 infidels were murdered. We are a heartbeat away from a Caliphate State. We have Islamic groups on the street corners of New York who have been empowered to chant "death to America", we have had more terrorist activities on U.S. soil since Obama's inauguration then any time in history. We have a taxpayer funded Mosque in Capitol Hill. We have a Muslim only internship via the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association, taxpayers are funding the Mosque in Virginia through a lease for the Census Bureau directly linked to the Fort Hood Massacre and other terrorist, we have Muslim only business summits, Muslim advisors, we have an Attorney General unable to utter the words radical Islam, we have Islamic schools funded by the taxpayers, our Government is being sued for using taxpayer funds to fund sharia finance through AIG, Chicago received a grant for nearly one million dollars to mandate the kids learn arabic. Our government allowed a radical islamic recruitment group to host a convention in Chicago although they are banned in many countries, there motto "Fall of capitalism, rise of Islam", we have a diversity lottery now, offering visas to people from terror sponsoring countries. So, yes, this Mosque will be built and it will be symbolic, bear in mind
this is not the only Mosque to be built, another is being planned at ground zero. http://www.creepingsharia.wordpress.com has details.
Great read Pamela! It sounds as if this Islamo-Goon has learned collegial moral equivalence debate tactics, and you can be certain that Barry and his minions are bobbing their clueless heads in adoring agreement. This doesn’t surprise me in the least.
Let's hope the Mosque has warm bathrooms; I plan to relieve myself right there while in lower-Manhattan. As you know from my profile, I prefer it to be warm. I'll be the guy with the baggy pants and loose shoes.
What a sad person you are
You can lie and it is fine in Islam. We have an expert in the White House.
Yet, you believe the initial claim?
What?
Look, double down in the anti-crazy pills…gather your "thoughts" and then…only then…approach the keyboard
If you mean do I believe that muslims lie to deceive the infidel? Yes, the concept is called Taqiyya. Look it up.
whatreally happened, keep in mind, there are self -loathing Jews, like Karl Marx. So if you see 5 dancing Israelis I can assure you there were 5 dancing atheist also. There are people, living in our great Country, who hate America, they belong to the Marxist/Communist ideology. These people filled with hate and contempt come from all backgrounds, you of all people should know that.
We don't and its about time we stopped.
I can find quotes if you really like. I doubt you'll find a Muslim who will refute it.
Why does Egypt get an equal amount?
This is so blatantly pathetic it hardly warrants a comment! To all you dense moooslim sympathizers with your vast knowledge of islam's propensity for violence, which began back in the 7th century, please share with us just how the heck did America 'create' this ideology of hatred! My God, just listen to the stupid crap you spew that makes NO sense whatsoever – and btw, think about this – if you believe the so called 'moderate' mooooslims wouldn't harm a fly, tell me how safe you would feel if that moderate mooooslim was TOLD to kill an infidel or be killed – ya think you would be saved?? Can you be any more clueless??
The door swings both ways.
Or even just on sanitary grounds.
Where is this passage of the Koran that he claimed to exist?
As for what you refer to " a dispensation allowing believers to conceal their faith when under threat, persecution or compulsion."
So it is not what you claim.
Not Riyad but Mecca and Medina.
Please observe the signs dictating which foot to enter the stall with and which one to leave with.
Yes, I would.
May 20 is National Draw Mohammed day!!!!!
<<<< My image on Mohammed… I hope I piss off 1000 Muslims by drawing it.
This building will NEVER open, the people of NYC will NEVER allow it.
One word everyone needs to learn and understand AND tell others:
TAQIYYA
Here's some nice ideas on what to do –
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/05/15/action-item-here-i...
but the best is to desecrate the site with pig's blood.
Why don't you know the facts? Not equal, quite a bit less. And that is just the overt aid. We give tons more to Israel through other means.
As for WHY the answer is simple….BECAUSE we give aid to Israel. Camp David Accords. So, that money we give to Egypt is more money that ISRAEL costs us.
More important than the "how many demons can dance on the head of a pin" question, is the application of the concept:
The terrorist group, Al Takfir Wal Hijra, who reportedly merged in the 1990s with Al Qaeda, are immersed in taqiyya techniques. Takfiris are “super sleepers” committed to becoming embedded in the target society and have operated in Lebanon, Sudan, Algeria, Jordan, Libya, England and through Western Europe since the 1990s. They are “permitted” to drink alcohol, live together, pray together, eat during Ramadan, dress in Western style and socialise with women, to avoid suspicion or detection. All outsiders, even Muslim brothers are regarded as takfir (infidels), and takfiris are reportedly even feared by Al Qaeda and other extremist Muslims. Takfiris specialise in “quality” large-scale terrorist operations, particularly assassinations and bombings.
Israel was literally built with terrorist acts like blowing up hotels and murdering kidnapped soldiers. Look up the Irgun and the Stern Gang. They were the example shown to the world "terrorism works." Wasn't even much of a problem before that!
LOL good reply….
Like you didn't "realize" the huge threat from Vietnam until the Gulf of Tonkin incident, right?
Where do we draw the line against these monsters and stop them from using their religion and our PC sickness from killing us off? Are we going to wait around until theIslamists have installed flight simulators and are offering bomb making classes in these so called "mosques" before we put a stop to this nonsense? Christ, it hasn't even been 10 years and we're allowing our enemy to tell us how we are going to "heal".
I would like to know Bloomberg's position on this. I bet Obama will be there for the groundbreaking. Bring back Rudy!!
I was still in the womb at that time so really couldn't form an opinion. But the history I've reviewed suggested that it was libs/dims/socialists (and maybe even anti semites like you) that prevented us from winning that war.
Where is Rudy? We need him to address this and fast!
ridgerunner-Bloomberg has already made a statement promoting the Mosque. He stated that NYC's building codes permit the Mosque to be built.
Question:
Are Muslims permitted to lie?
Summary Answer:
Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam – in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (16:106) – Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28) – This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3) – "…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…" The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28) – A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) – "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"
Qur'an (66:2) – "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54) – "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:269) – "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).
Bukhari (49:857) – "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.
Bukhari (84:64-65) – Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."
Bukhari (52:271) – Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.
From Islamic Law:
Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 – 8.2) – "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory… it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression…
"One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie.
Additional Notes:
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:
Taqiyya – Saying something that isn't true.
Kitman – Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."
This is an insult to all Americans and must be stopped at all costs. What in the world is the mayor of NY allowing???? When the World Trade centers were burning and falling, videos of Muslims dancing in the streets was shown. I for one would deport all the so called Students and those wih visas just for starters. Also this congress of ours must change the laws so that children born here of NON Citizens cannot be given American Citizenship. The Canadians did these because of the huge influx of pregnant woment coming from China.
Stop the this project now!! All Americans must write the NY State Congress and Governer. What an insult to us.
Actually, the US–and the world get a big return from Israel:
“Drip irrigation;
the cellphone (developed in Israel by Motorola);
voice mail technology;
AOL Instant Messenger (developed in Israel in 1996);
the Pentium MMX chip—and countless medical miracles including nanotechnology, stem cell research, a new anti-cancer detection test, and recently, a way for paraplegics to potentially walk again.”
And that’s the short list. http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/05/18/palestinia...
absolutely……let's CORRECT it
excellent!
The only people I saw dancing in the street were the Palestinians!!!
Meaning"
"If you [Muslims] are under their [infidels'] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harboring inner animosity for them. … Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers — except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them." Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir (d. 1373, second in authority only to Tabari) writes, "Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels'] evil may protect himself through outward show."
Very well argued.
I would add…How do you succumb and fight? English as a second language id a definite disadvantage in an intellectual argument.
Or just let us walk in one of their mosques, freely and unburdened by any strictures as in a Christian church. What? The dirty infidel pig-dogs cannot walk into their precious hate-houses?
I am certain that the hater already knew these things, as even I had read them in my studies 15 years ago.. I thank you for clarifying them for me and giving us a reminder.
It is a symbol of their position of superiority. They put a holy place on the spot of the enemies holy place. In this case, the memorial to our dead which they murdered; therefore signifying a victory over America in one battle of their jihad.
Disgusting.
Wow. How thoughtful of the muslims to try to help out by offering training to our people. They are so kind and generous to try to make amends.
P.C. spin is kind of fun. Like playing dress-up as a kid. Too bad you can get killed or enslaved for the adult game.
Bloomberg. International business. Why would he stop it?
Instead of going after the radicals, we are trying to be their friends. Clearly there must be something wrong with us… why else would they attack? If this is allowed, we are lost. This is a clear case of having our noses rubbed in it . I don't believe Mr. Giulliani would have let this occur. Bloomberg is a fool.
I would like to know Bloomberg's position on this.
Bent over , holding his ankles.
Thanks for playing. Sorry, but you loose. We have some lovely parting gifts for you. Don Pardo, tell whatreallyhappened what he's going home with.
He's going home with a history of Islamic terror dating all the way back to medieval times. When you want terror, ask for "Islamic Terror." But if you're Eric Holder, don't ask for it by name. And a year's supply of Tim Tom's Tofu helper. Tofu for you in all that you do. And a life-time supply of Preparation-H.
I have a good sprinkler system.
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The organization's goal is to remake Mt. Rushmore
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Coppertone, a corporate sponsor, had this to say:
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Anyone notice how Obama is moving Muslims into power? Tell me Obama is not a Muslim.
Let's just drop pigs on every mosques we can find…
is the presidunce osamabama the clueless going to dedicate the first shovel at ground breaking ceremonies??? will he fly to NYC to pray 3-4 times a day??? are they going to have a roast pig at the opening day party???
You forgot to mention the arab students who were celebrating(dancing and singing) at the University of Miami on 09/11/2001. That little episode was quickly hushed up.
I hear that pig blood has already been used to desecrate the site, and is continuing……can anyone confirm this?
WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN YOUR OPINIONS, LIBERAL TROLLS. YOUR CLUELESSNESS IS ALREADY APPARENT BY THE FACT THAT YOU'RE LIBERAL.
IF YOUR COMMENTS AND/OR ARGUMENTS ARE NOT VALID OR INCLUDE SUPPORTING FACTS, DON'T WASTE OUR TIME OR OUR POSTING SPACE.
Put up an email link and we'll do it, Lawrence!
Put it right here on the Bigs!
Governor!
Mayor!
Port Authority!
Guliani
Senator!
Reps!
hell…..Liza Minneli!
Cair is a terriorist organization, but our PC and socialist, diversity ridden government will not expell it.
I'm guessing for every 1 American that has been informed of these things there are 50 that haven't. It's definitely an uphill battle.
muslums always build a mosk over a real holy site. It's part of their job. The most sacred holy place in Jerusalem had a mosk built over it. It's the muslum way of saying "screw your religion." They have done this all over the world, from Afghanistan to India and all points inbetween. Once they establish a mosk, they "own" the territory, according to their kran.
The kran also dictates that any land the muslums once stole from the original owners is theirs forever. In other words, if we give them land in NYC to build their mosk, they can claim NYC forever, or until that maddie guy pops out of the well and takes over.
Once we give them anything, they will never let it go. Think Spain, Palestine, Pakistan, Afghanistan and especially Iran, which was never a muslum state until they took it over. Persians are not arabs and were never muslums until they started getting beheaded for not acceding to the "religion of pieces."
Do not give them any land or any permission for anything – if we do, we have lost it forever. They are like the Borg, they assimilate by hook or by crook.
[QUOTE] CheesecakeLarry – May 18th, 2010 at 1:35 pm If this monstrosity goes up, where is Obama going to put the white flag? [/QUOTE] He already has a white flag stuck you know where. And he’s looking for volunteers to join him in the fun. He’s that kind of guy. Look at him bow. You don’t get to bow that good without a LOT of practice.
Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are true patriots. Will the Republic survive for patriots to live on? Not at the rate things are going. Not with this monstrosity being built.
Allowing this affront is like saying “we give up, you won”.
pisslims should be given the same alternatives they give others: convert of die.
Enough is enough.
richardporter, I happen to be very well acquainted with the three individuals you cite but let me say this now: George Hamilton is neither 'of low intelligence' or a bigot.
p.s. could you have made your last paragraph any more convoluted?
Brad Schaeffer covered this on BG Sunday but this is a good companion to it. The more voices against this insult the better. Especially such eloquent ones as Schaeffer, Geller et. al. Nice piece! And so true.
WHY THERE? We know why. To rub salt in our wounds. To hell with them all. They want to colonize us…nor assimilate. Go back to Eurabia. Leave the real West here alone.
Yes, be careful. Obama says 'respect it'!
Welcoming those who wish to destroy us is NOT peaceful or compassionate…it is suicidal. You do not judge a body that fights infectious diseases. Muslims do not view us a culture to be a partof but rather to usurp and destroy. They use our love freedom and liberty to shout in the streets unfettered "death to America" yet when a picture of Mohammed is defaced they literally slit your throat. You should never ever treat haters with respect. Get them out of here. Round them up send them home. The USA became the greastest nation on earth by espousing the exact opposite of what Islam preaches…individual empowerment, seccular rule of law, business ethics, equal rights, tolerance, etc. A world under shariah law treats women as dogs, rapes children, makes all laws subservient to an imam's interpretation of the Koran and stifles as Islam has donw for 1300 years, any forward progress for mankind. We lose this war, we re-enter a Dark Ages. No thanks. My duty to be tolerant ends where your desire to destroy my culture and country and ultimately my family begins.
[...] Big Government today, Pamela Geller and I wrote this article about the 9/11 mosque and the shady leader of the [...]
How about if I just ate pork products for two or three days, then went there and took a big crap on the site ? Would that work ?
Ummmm, bacon.
For over a decade, the AMERICAN Initiative and American Society for CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH Advancement have worked tirelessly to build bridges with other faiths, while condemning violence, extremism, and prejudice of any sort. Our mission is to be a beacon of hope, peace, understanding and harmony to those who join us in condemning hatred and violence of any kind. Too often the question arises of why moderate, peace-loving AMERICANS speak out.
We cannot think of a more wonderful expression of our religion than to build CHRISTAIN CHURCHES AND JEWISH SYNAGOGUES in the Middle East,, where CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH AMERICNAS and Muslims stand together with our fellow citizens to condemn extremism and terror.
It is a project to honor THOSE WHO WERE KILLED WHILE FREEING THE MIDDLE EAST OF A CRUEL, MURDERING DICTATOR It is a project to proclaim our patriotism in all countries and to stand side-by-side all men and women of peace.
AMEN.
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Actually, more like a Shinto temple.
I'd rather have there be a multi-religious center, where people of all religions can join together in a common goal of eradicating religious intolerance, but it wasn't like Islam with a capital "I" attacked the WTC; 9/11 was the act of a small band of committed terrorists advancing a set of fringe beliefs not shared by the great majority of fellow Muslims. I take offense that the author makes it seem that only Muslims interested in committing Jihad go to mosques. What about the millions of peace-loving Muslims who also attend mosque services regularly? First steps should be taken by both sides to accept each other. That is how peace begins…
9/11: Remembering the Jumpers [Edit 1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcC6bTHosx0
To our dying breath, we will never forget that thousands of Palestinian Authority Muslims celebrated the murders of our 3,000 fellow Americans and never forget that thousands of PA Muslims celebrate the murders of Israeli Jews whenever a Muslim killer blows up amongst Israelis. We must NEVER spit on the graves of our murdered American and Israeli brothers and sisters by allowing a mosque just yards from sacred Ground Zero, and never surrender Free World Jewish land in Israel to those who hate us and celebrate our murders.
PA Muslims CELEBRATE the Murders of 3,000 Innocents 9/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k
israelinsider.com
Thousands of Palestinians again celebrate attacks, videotape suppressed
By Ellis Shuman and israelinsider staff September 16, 2001
On Friday and Saturday, thousands of Palestinians again paraded through cities in the West Bank and Gaza, celebrating the attacks on the United States.
"Jubilant Palestinians took to the streets of refugee camps of Lebanon and the West Bank, waving Palestinian flags and distributing sweets to celebrate the attacks.
"Palestinian policemen celebrating and shooting into the air, in addition to civilians dancing,"
…Arab students at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem held a party Tuesday night celebrating the attacks and giving out candy to participants. http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/diplomacy/a...
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