Is America Becoming A House of Cards?
by Of Thee I Sing 1776House of Cards: – “a speculative scheme that depends on unstable factors that the planner cannot control,” (WordNet – Princeton University). While we don’t believe America has, by any stretch of the imagination, yet become a house of cards, we do strongly believe the federal government and state and local governments have been, for a long time, pursuing policies that fit that definition to a tee. And, according to last week’s Rasmussen Poll, two thirds of Americans described as likely voters sense that something is very wrong and, what is worse, could, if triggered by any surprise world event, spin out of control.

They are very worried about the course we are on, and, we believe, with good reason. Notwithstanding President Obama’s lament last week that the public has become disenchanted with the Administration and the Democratic Congress because “we’re hard-wired not to always think clearly when we’re scared,” we believe the people are thinking quite clearly because they know there is really something about which to be scared.
We don’t want to dismiss all that is positive about our economy. As Fed Chairman Bernanke testified before the U.S. House Committee on the Budget on June 9. “Our economy is large, diversified, and flexible; our financial markets are deep and liquid;” and, as Bernanke correctly points out, in the midst of financial turmoil, global investors have continued to view Treasury securities as a safe haven…at least, so far. But we wouldn’t break out the champagne just yet. And we’re willing to bet Chairman Bernanke doesn’t see much about which to celebrate either.
He ended his testimony with the warning (certain to be ignored, at least by the current Congress) “that history makes clear that failure to achieve fiscal responsibility will, over time, sap the nation’s economic vitality, reduce our living standards, and greatly increase the risk of economic and financial instability.”
As we noted in last week’s essay, “unsustainable” seems to be the new buzzword in Washington. What the government is, and has been, doing is clearly unsustainable. Chairman Bernanke knows it, and we believe the Congressional Budget Office and the vast majority of the American public knows it as well.
The White House projections for economic growth upon which estimates of future deficits and public debt are predicated are optimistic to the point of wishful thinking. The Administration assumes five consecutive years of annual GDP growth in excess of 3.5 percent beginning this fiscal year (which began one month ago). That is beyond a very bullish near term expectation of economic growth, and its authors, who have access to statistics of past economic results, must know the premises to be false. Projections of that kind from any public corporation in the private sector would trigger SEC scrutiny (assuming the SEC was doing its job) to make sure the private company warned the public as soon as it had knowledge that its projections could not be achieved. Very stiff penalties would await the private firm that made irresponsible projections that it could not achieve.
Consider the consequences. Each 1.0 percent shortfall in GDP growth compared to these assumptions results in a substantial further deterioration in the national deficit and, therefore, the national debt as well. With the government currently borrowing approximately 40 cents of every dollar it is currently spending, any further escalation of our deficit and, hence, our public debt portends a very rocky future, one that all but guarantees that our children and grandchildren will not fare as well as their parents – a first in American history.
The American public cannot take much comfort from the Administration’s projections for inflation either. The government’s projections of future deficits and public debt are, of course, dependent on the actual rate of economic growth as well as the actual rate of inflation The concern looking forward is compounded when considering the White House projections for inflation together with their projections for GDP growth. Not only does the nation have to achieve GDP growth in excess of 3.5 percent for the next five years, but also, if the Administration’s forecast is to be achieved, we have to hold inflation below 2.1 percent every year for the next decade. That is a very tall order, not achieved in any recent 10-year period, and especially so with an Administration and a Democratic controlled Congress that shows virtually no restraint in spending.
If these projections are achieved America will be able to breathe a sigh of relief. If, however, they prove to be as fanciful as on their face they appear, then the economy the country is building for posterity may well prove to be a house of cards.
Government, at all levels, but unfortunately not the American economy, has been on an incredible growth spurt. In recent years, it is government that has been growing at an unprecedented and an unsustainable pace. The public sector has been, at all levels, growing impressively (well, maybe not so impressively, but certainly rather spectacularly). Public payrolls have grown, as have public health-care and retirement benefits all of which, in the final analysis, are paid for with the taxes paid by private sector wage earners whose jobs have been dwindling, as have their benefits.
Public sector health benefits frequently require little or no deductible and little or no co-pay and public sector retirement benefits are often predicated on the highest salary earned (usually the salary earned during the last working year or two prior to retirement). To justify these lavish tax-funded benefits, the public sector pension programs are invariably based on economic assumptions or investment returns that are just as unrealistically optimistic as the Administration’s budget and inflation assumptions. The liabilities incurred by the cities and states whose employees are the beneficiaries of this largesse are generally cast in concrete. The growth assumptions for investment earnings, of course, are not. They are, to borrow from the house-of-cards definition, truly a speculative scheme that depends entirely on factors the planners cannot control. For example, these pension funds typically are predicated on long-term investment growth of 8 percent. Typical bond yields are, today, around 2 percent and, according to Bill Gross of PIMCO, one of the largest and most successful fixed income fund managers, public sector pension programs are typically weighted 60 percent toward equities and 40 percent toward bonds or fixed-income investments. These bond yields require a long-term return on equities of around 12 percent for these pension plans to meet their projections. Unfortunately, the current yield of the S&P 500 (the broadest equity index) is barely 2 percent. Dividends would have to grow, according to Gross, by 9-10% a year to hit that target. And, to make matters worse, the further the government succeeds in pushing down bond yields, even more unrealistic return assumptions from equities are required. These kinds of returns bear no basis to reality, and yet public officials use them in order to justify the benefit packages they give to their friends in the public sector unions. That is why public sector benefit and pension plans are the major contributors to the red ink in which state and municipal governments are drowning…red ink estimated to now be running about $3 trillion. These plans are, in fact, built on a house of cards.
We have another structural problem that raises the specter of a future built on a house of cards. As we blithely continue with our statist European-model entitlement policies we will require a strong ratio of new tax-paying workers entering the work force to balance out the aging workers who are exiting the work force and retiring. We are now entering a cycle where, for the next decade or so, nearly 80 million baby boomers will begin retiring and collecting their social security checks and calling on the health-care establishment to care for them under Medicare, a program already facing future insolvency and under further strain as a result of Obamacare. While America enjoys, relative to our European trading partners, a larger 18-to-38 year old population, the positive infusion of young workers into our system is largely driven by prior immigration into the United States.
Our indigenous (non-immigrant) birth rate is about the same as the weak birth rates found in virtually all industrialized European countries today and America, in reaction to the huge illegal immigration problem we have and which successive. Administrations have refused to address, is in danger of becoming an anti-immigration country. Nothing could be more self-defeating. Without the population growth provided by legal immigration, the imbalance of aging, retired Americans compared to young workers who are required to support them will produce a crisis from which there may be no escape.
The current American birth rate without the larger families produced by new arrivals in the United States will not support the entitlements we owe to senior America. And without a steady stream of new, taxpaying workers offsetting the ever-growing steady stream of retiring workers, our economy could sag, if not collapse, of its own weight.
We began by stating that we do not believe that the American economy is built on a house of cards…not yet anyway. But our economy (in fact any country’s economy) is always a work in progress; it is being built every day. The decisions we make today will, indeed, determine whether what we are building is a future with a strong foundation, or, is instead, a future built on a house of cards.
by Hal Gershowitz and Stephen Porter






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Chris Matthews would say the house of cards is OK — it only appears unstable to those who didn't go to grad school. So keep borrowing and spending, it's the intellectual thing to do.
Are these the same grad "schools" (and I use THAT term loosely…..) that all the "experts" that are in charge and MAKING these stupid asinine rules and regulation decisions went too……?????
:-p
New Rules – nobody that EVER graduated from "Hawvawd" is EVER allowed to serve in any elected or appointed office ever again – until the school can actually start TEACHING real world stuff! Like actually REAL math and accounting.
God help us all.
We may not be a house of cards yet, but the cards are being shuffled!
Socialist inSecurity is the biggest "legal" ponzi scheme in the world, the first two generations have gotten their money but the bank is out of money now.
The next generation is four times larger than the last and they live on average about ten years longer, making the shortfall much much larger in the very near future.
Don't you worry though the Chairman has a plan called "Obamacare" and it'll take care of those pesky seniors that are living longer than he wants them to…
I wonder would the people on the left or msnbc, bet their life on the things say or believe . If your going to lead stand behind the words. I mean it's just Common cents, something even animals have. 1. Start drilling for oil. 2. Ramp up mining. 3. This will Get our industries growing again. 4. End the EPA. The EPA is industries biggest strangle hold on JOBS. 5. All States are right to work. 6. Taxes. 7. Starting with the 6 things together, this country could employ 5 million or more people in 3 or 4 years maybe more in less time. BUT the big question is when WILL WE Start to wake up and make it ourself. Charity begins in the home.
We still have a 'president' who likes to go on a lavish spending spree on top of all the bad bills he passed. The GOP took over the House, so the fight has just begun.
The word, sustainable, a favorite of leftists for several decades when applied to systems which have little trouble sustaining themselves, like the environment, hate when it is applied to government, a system more prone to metastatic growth than the most aggressive cancer.
And I think I see a few race cards in there…
What do you mean…becoming! When you have a nation of over 300 million people who don't even know that they have a usurper occupying the people's White House that was installed by Constitutional lawless democrats and republicans….America is a house of cards! America is a house of cards that is occupied by 300 million brain dead ZOMBIES who haven't the slightest clue of what the hell is going on in America! In 1874 SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE MORRISON R. WAITE substantiated what many people have been saying about Obama who because of his non citizen father was never qualified to ever be a presidential candidate! Morrison Waite validated that the Founding Fathers meant NATURAL BORN CITIZEN to be defined as being born to a mother and father both of whom were U.S. Citizens at the time of birth. Obama's father was never a U.S. citizen! If you try to tell the zombies of America this, they go crazy and start calling you names that's how brain dead they are! But this is history! American history! The democrats and republicans betrayed their sworn Constitutional oaths and installed an unqualified person to occupy America's White House! Do the research! You can find it on the internet. Read Article 2 Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution where it says presidents must be NATURAL BORN CITIZENS and then look up Morrison Waite and his words in the Supreme Court case of 1874 Minor v. Happersett! There he tells you what NATURAL BORN CITIZEN means! The democrats and republicans along with Breitbart, Beck, O'Reilly etc. know this but are deliberately and intentionally keeping this historical fact from you! Why? I don't know! But you need to start asking yourself why your government is installing illegal presidents and what that means for your future and your children's future! You need to start asking why your government is exercising contempt to the U.S. Constitution!
So this bastard has the audacity to tell us that we are 'hardwired to not think clearly when we are scared.' He is congenitally hardwired to not think clearly at all.
I got news for Obammy. I am thinking VERY clearly. And I am sure he won't like it.
If it was possible to see past the smoke and mirrors you would be horrified to discover that there isn't anything holding the economy up. Manufacturing in the US is almost extinct as most goods are made overseas, and with the falling dollar, prices are beginning to skyrocket. How much inflation will cause the consumer to stop spending is anybodies guess, but when we stop buying, for what ever reason, the economy will crash. I think the unthinkable isn't very far away.
The problem is that we have been playing with the deck stacked against us. The deck just got reshuffled. Let's hope for a better hand…. the chips are running out fast.
Yes, it's a house of cards built on a mountainous foundation of debt that every one of us prays we'll be able to continue servicing from month to month. I doubt the majority of those caught up in the foreclosure crisis to-date intentionally defaulted on their mortgages, but it doesn't matter how frugal you are there's simply no way you're going to continue servicing debt taken on while working for a large manufacturer if you get laid off & have to take a minimum wage job in retail.
"The current American birth-rate without the larger families produced by new arrivals in the US will not
support the entitlements we owe to senior America."
Okay then let's let "senior America" choose. Do they wish their grandchildren and great-grandchildren
to grow up in a damned third world country, OR NOT???
There you have it in a nut-shell seniors, the damn ball is in your court. More Somali's, Middle Easterners,
and of course Mexicans………or realize some of you do not really need your Social Security entitlement,
even though you did pay into the system for years. Your problem was your lack of oversight of your
Congress, whom you allowed to steal your money. Now you presume future generations should suffer
immeasurably to MAKE YOU WHOLE. As Savage says, the most "SELFISH GENERATION".
Bring it ON, I never fail to get the TD's when I point out this cold hard reality!
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you see he forgot one thing. we are also hardwired for survival mode as well. and i believe we are very sufficient at it. SURPRISED he will be.
Is America Becoming a House of Cards?
In a word, YES.
Figures lie, and liars figure.
Any, and EVERY Government entity, whether it be the CBO or any other organization, cannot give an accurate, down to the last dollar accounting of exactly where we stand. It is always rounded off to the nearest trillion. Factor in the trillions of dollars of UNFUNDED liabilities, and even Stevie Wonder can see the picture.
I have said it for a year here that the party is over. One does not have to be an economist or a mathematician, or a physicist to savvy where we are. All it takes is a bit of logic, sprinkled with some good old fashioned common sense. The sheer weight of our debt cannot be supported. The interest payments alone is unachievable. This debt is an inverted pyramid, balanced on the head of a pin, or a marble. The landscape is getting shaky…..
Yes, those geniuses. If only they could COMMUNICATE better, then we too would understand the wisdom of spending massive sums now and stiffing our children with the bill.
"Sorry kid, you gotta work to pay that guy's fat pension." I will teach my kids to reply, "Go get it from the people who promised him the fat pension." Raise enough kids to think that way and then you'll see what a house of cards looks like.
A note to our creditors: I as John Q Public, I have no stake in the debt you are owed by the USA.
If you made bad loans to crrouptocrats sorry that's your fault, you got conned, sorry for that but they lied to us too! I won't, don't, can't and have no intention of paying you back. China you want to be the "world player"…cool here is all the bad debt we've collected over the years from other countries…it's yours! Welcome to the world stage! You want to get paid… go get it….by the way you can have the rights to the study about cows farting too…it's yours!
I don't have any idea why you would think the American taxpayer would support the bills for the crack addict crouptocrats. We reported that our credit card had been lost or stolen, but you're still letting the crack heads charge the account! Sorry no pay for you as you too were trying to scam us! If you're stupid enough to think you're getting paid by me then come and get it!
A few things American's like me enjoy: My guns, my bible, the constitution, our founders ,our freedom, our prusit of happiness, a nice cup of TEA and catching liars and cons! Looks like we caught two in this trap!
I think an old chinese proverb says something about only person with greed in their heart gets caught in a trap of the greedy, or something like that!
I caught Donald Trump on Greta Van Susteren's show last week recommending a 25 percent tariff on Chinese imports.
If we're serious about creating jobs in this country we have to make it cheaper to make products here than in China, but we also have to break the unions. In the St. Louis area we just had a union reject a contract that guaranteed job security for 7 years in exchange for the union accepting a wage freeze:
http://www.stltoday.com/business/article_6318da79...
It's time to pull America out of all "free trade" treaties & sic the justice department on the unions using RICO.
That next to last sentence is poetic, Mr Logic.
Nice to see you here today, hope all has been going smoothly in your kingdom.
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You do know that India is a huge creator of US jobs, don't you? / sarc
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-calls-india...
I read a book about how they train pilots. As they build a pilots skill set they imagine piling bricks on a piece of glass, as they find "cracks" the instructors know what skills need to be reinforced to manufacture a great pilot.
The Congress does the exact opposite. They continue to pile bricks on us. When fissures develop they pour in acid, and gasoline, then they call Al Sharpton to put the fire out with pure alcohol.
The 112th Congress must act as decisively as the 111th in the opposite direction, in 700 odd days they can put their case to the voters, and they will be surprised how much we reward them for it. Do not let us down.
Eyes closed, fingers in ears, stomping their little Marxist feet, while screaming, nah-nah-nah-nah… this is Democrat fiscal policy. What’s a parasite to do once the host is dead?
Borrowing .40 cents of every dollar spent, that should have been a campaign add, just goes to show how out of touch the GOP is that it wasn't an add. I wonder how much of that is interest on the debt??
We still manufacture. Remember that our economy is so massive that other sectors have grown to over shadow it. I've been inside some of these plants, you would be extremely impressed with what the American worker does day in and day to make the best stuff on earth.
Of course we have huge problems with our debt load and it started with George Bush. Most of the individuals on this page have no idea the damage he did to this economy by ignoring Warren Buffet's warning in 2002 of the danger sub-prime mortgages posed to this economy. Oh, I know you will scream Barney Frank. Fannie and Freddie cost this economy approximately $350 billion. I know this is not chickenfeed, but it did not bring this economy to its knees. Additionally, Fannie and Freddie did not start making these loans until 2005-6. By then the damage had been done. This is the reason we needed TARP. Please remember TARP was proposed by Bush. The reason why? Because when a bank fails, all of its loans become due. Yes, I know companies can obtain new financing. However, in 2008, you needed one heck of a balance sheet to change banks and very few companies were in this position. The threat that is confronting America right now is basically every real estate loan made since 2003 and I am not talking the sub-prime variety. Most homes have dropped at least 20% over the past several years. As a result, most homeowners who purchased a house since 2003 and who put 20% down, are underwater. Hopefully, our economy has stabilized. Only time will tell.
General Services Administration
Washington DC
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November 5, 2010
Dear Sir/Ma’am
Every so often someone either contracted by the procurement office of the federal government or the federal government itself contacts my office in an effort to ask me to sign up, and bid on government contracts. For the past 15 years or more, I’ve said no on behalf of my company because by engaging in such an endeavor would leave my company at risk to a legislature and/or a President who would not know a “widget” from a “what’s it” if their life depended on it. Not to mention the caliber of federal employee that I would be forced to deal with on what would become a monthly basis.
There exist another problem though. I cannot in good conscience extend the federal government credit. It appears that your operation is $1.7 Trillion in deficit, and $14 Trillion in debt, and as such represents an extreme credit risk. If you would like to render payment in either Gold, Silver, or some other hard asset, arrangements will be made for there secure transfer prior to any shipment of goods.
Be advised, as soon as your credit situation improves we will reevaluate, and we will then be able to except notes from the federal reserve as payment.
Therefore, your request to have my company bid on any government contracts has been denied.
Thank you for time and attention.
Respectfully,
Joe Doakes
CRA! "1977"
A house of cards? Oh, YEAH!
All a result of shortsighted and politically expedient decisions made by politicians over the last century and more.
Very d@mn few have had the nerve to tell the citizenry that the decisions are made ENTIRELY based on what will bring in the greatest number of votes or the largest donation to the campaign coffers–or worst, what will lead the politicos to a nice cushy K Street job that allows them to corrupt the process even further.
Ron Paul has been saying for years that the Federal Reserve is one of the major problems–look at how thoroughly he's been marginalized by the rest of Congress and the media.
The truth has become political suicide. That has made it easy for the cards to get stacked higher and higher.
It ain't gonna last much longer, and it's gonna be REAL ugly whan it falls.
The attitude of the politicians: "You want the truth??…You can't handle the truth!! [sotto voce] (So we'll hide it as best we can.)"
America has been a house of cards for years. We've just reached the point where the foundation is crumbling. And instead of an adult dealing the cards, we have a petulant little fool who will make matters even worse over the next two years because the American people finally saw through the smoke and mirrors to he see the narcissistic Marxist that Barry is.
Reminds me of that scene in one of my favorite movies, Tombstone, where Russell is sitting at the table with a shotgun suspended below it, aiming at his Ike Clanton without his knowledge.
Scared we are not. Pissed off because we can see what Mr. Obama is doing? Yes. I do believe Chairman O, you have underestimated the American people, we are ready for your plan to collapse, and you won't like your response.
Agreed. Also monitor what our kids are being taught in school starting with Kindergarten!
If we stopped paying for free educations, health care and welfare for illegal's, we could pay for SSI.
Yes.
I started my gather this week, and will finish hopefully the coming week.
I heard on business news today that corn is going up………
The best news since the election was Olberman getting axed, and I missed it. I didn't even know it until yesterday afternoon. That is something monumental.
We've been a house of cards since the "new deal".
And the wind is a blowin'
I just saw Cantor, Ryan, Issa, talking a 24% across the board cut in non-discressionary spending. All right guys, nice start…hold the line.
Your post has some good points, but you fail to see one thing.
The Chinese debt? All the Mortgage Backed Securities, and CDO's?
A lot of was based upon pure fraud.
In business, there is a premise that both parties enter into a transaction based on honesty, with honor and integrity. When that breaks down, based on an intentional perpetrated fraud, the rules of the game change.
Many of our international creditors have been defrauded.
It was sold on Main Street, and packaged by Wall Street……….
I've said it quite often before and will say it again: Americans must decide whether or not they want to have the argument or they want to have the solution.
Americans love to complain – it must be the French in us. We love to argue and fight over our passions – something to do with our Italian or perhaps Spanish heritages. Arguing over political philosophy is our national obsession. We do it incessantly.
The question is: do you really want to cure these problems so they NEVER happen again or do you just want your voice to be heard and to have the comfort of being able to continue having these intellectual arguments into perpetuity?
There are real choices. There are ways to permanently change the outcomes our economy and government generate. You claim you don't like (much less want) economic recessions, high unemployment, wasteful government spending, no accountability for government, a currency that can be devalued, a discriminatory tax system, high deficits, unsustainable national debt, a failed pension system, a bigger failure for a health care system, a completely failed education system.
Did it ever occur to you that these are all symptoms of a much larger problem and that if we fix this much larger problem then all of these "problems"/symptoms will go away like a summer cold – NEVER TO RETURN?
What will you have? The argument or the satisfaction of the ultimate outcome? You must choose. As God says, even making no choice is making a conscious choice, so please do choose.
I have been in GE Louisville years ago and was very impressed. They were manufacturing many brands of appliances. Have you looked lately to see where your new washer and drier have been made? If you said China you would be correct.
Yes we do still have manufacturing here in the US, but not like we used to. Very little as compared to 25 years ago is made here.
Hey LoBo ,
You come here and keep hammering the message that it's Bush's fault ! Thats just not true …
In April of 2001 : " The Administration's FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is "a potential problem," because "financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity."
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread396388/...
The video proof : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM
You can blame Democrats and Republicans in both houses `cause they failed to act …
LOL, that's really funny CL as you occupied my first I thought when I heard Keify had
been axed. You are the only one I know who had the stomach to watch him and then talk
about it.
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Yeah, keep spewing those paid Democrat talking points, drone.
"These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis'' -Barney Frank
As much as you'd like to place blame on Bush, it lies squarely on the shoulders of Democrats. Spin it however you like, but no one is buying anymore.
Correct, though my Whirlpool is Made in America, the motor is made in china and assembled in Mexico! Regardless, manufacturing in this country bears the brunt of three things, trial lawyers (witness what CNBC and the trial lawyers are trying to do to Remington Firearms corporation) The Regulatory State (witness what OSHA can do to a guy who makes the mistake of using the wrong ladder, in such and such way) and Taxes (Witness, tens of thousands of pages of job security for bureaucrat and tax attorney alike).
In Communist China if you screw up, they shoot you. We can't compete with that. I'm not condoning it, I'm just try to illustrate the we are competing with a "trading partner" who has the upper hand in all venues, the exception being freedom, or what is left of it after Wilson, FDR, Nixon(EPA), Carter, Obama.
This Congress must address these concerns too.
"Fannie and Freddie cost this economy approximately $350 billion"
Sheer bollocks. that's the direct bailout sum; but Fannie and Freddie were responsible for 90% of the aggregrate toxic subprime debt.
No, it was Clinton doubling down on Carter's "Community Reinvestment Act" with the "Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act" in 1999 that caused the sub-prime mortgage crisis. I don't believe Bush pressed congress hard enough to undo the damage done by Clinton, but he certainly didn't start the fire.
In non-discretionary? Really, a one-quarter cut in entitlements? Nah, that's just too good to be true! Nobody in DC has the balls for it.
That's right.
And we don't need a new "New Deal," but we sure could use a new dealer.
I am with you. Saturday is my birthday and I asked for this book – New Deal or Raw Deal?: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America by Burton W. Folsom Jr.
All your points about Carter , Clinton and the GLB act of `99 are True ,
but Bush warned congress 18 – TIMES ! http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread396388/...
Missy, my most liberal friend had to admit a number of years back that I was right about Social Security being a ponzi scheme. However, liberals (and many conservatives) have found that it is an issue they can demigod. Too many are far too willing to take the pir from another but won't give up their own piece.
much stronger stomach than I have and I've done some a few nasty jobs in the military…
Politicians writing checks their voters wallets can't cash, in return for reelection? What's new about that? And eyes it has become an epidemic throughout government … gaming the system.
What is new is the people have woken up to the politician's scam.
Becoming is the wrong word for what has already happened.
AmericanDawg, once again you lack the information you need. The reforms which were proposed for Fannie and Freddie had absolutely nothing to do with sub-prime loans. Additionally, the sub-prime loans were virtually unheard of until 2002. In 2002, China was flushed with cash and wanted to make some interest on it. The American housing market was very attractive, because it had always gone up. So the Red Chinese began flooding our markets with their money, even though there was little demand. So what happened? Rates went way down and they needed to attract borrowers, which resulted in sub-prime loans. You really need to read Henry Paulson's book on this mess. Last winter he and Warren Buffet spoke at a luncheon sponsored by the Omaha Chamber of Commerce. All of this was discussed.
Your right it is a good start , but the average Senator and Congressman get over a Million dollars a year
in Perks subsidized by the tax payer…
Sounds like an interesting read. And, BTW, Happy Birthday!
Stop with the ideological crap….. do you really think Bush started unsustainable spending? The groundwork for this started long before Bush II, Clinton, Bush I, Reagen, Carter, Nixon, etc…… He was just one more president in a long line that taxed and spent.
If there is just one thing for you to realize and understand, it was Bush's policies that first pissed off the American people and then gasoline was poured on it by obama. This led to the TEA Party uprising. "We" all agree with Bush's culpability in all of this. How about you agree with obama's part in this and then we all can have an intelligent conversation?
Actually our congress made it a ponzi scheme. Had it been left untouched and employed as it was meant to be and allowed to grow, we wouldn't be facing the problems we have today. However, a greedy congress with sticky fingers couldn't leave it alone. Additionally, congress over the years changed its original intent as a supplement to retirement bit by bit to include sections(welfare additions) that were not covered under the original legislation. The same has happened to medicare and medicaid.
How soon we forget that our own congress is to blame for the failings of all three programs due to greed, lack of oversight, and outright PPPP(piss poor prior planning).
Obama is just moving America forward toward North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Socialism, Big Government, Big Spending, Little Security, Little Progress and Little Respect in the World.
I know Bush warned congress, but that wasn't enough to get them to act. Nancy Pelosi managed to press the entire Democrat party into committing Harri Cari to pass health-care reform, so there must have been something more Bush could have done to press harder. Maybe he needed to send the RINOs on weekend hunting trip with Cheney?
You had better do better research and stop listening to the excuse makers for Bush. http://www.blogs.wsj.com/economics/208/12/03/feds-kroszn.... Have you ever stopped to think, that the reason this economy collapsed was due to billions of debt. Simply look at AIG, they had over $100 billion in assets and went under. All of this was due to the CRA? Really. It was due to the collapse of the real estate market in California, Florida and Arizona.
Sub Prime loans started in `77' under Carter …" Community re-investment act " http://www.federalreserve.gov/dcca/cra/
It exploded under Clinton with the Chinese when it was revised in `95'
……. and Paulson is one of the reasons we're in this mess !
I don't trust anything he says …
O'bama was number 2 on the list Right behind Criss Dodd…
http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/how-much-did...
Publicans are also on the list !
It's tough to say what more could have been done , but I suspect all those D's
who lost an election last Tuesday will be singing about Pelosie's Tactics….
Some suspect much of it was Illegal…
Really, 90%. Hmmm. Let's do a little math. A very large portion of the sub-prime debt is worthless. The taxpayer loss from Freddie and Fannie totals approximately $350 billion. This means the total sub-prime losses would be approximately $385 billion. TARP was $750 billion. Hmmm. I bet Bush wishes TARP only cost $35 billion.
See my post below. The CRA had nothing to do with it.
Yes, a house of cards built on a foundation of sand.
I'm 43 and I would fore go future Social Security if the government would take just 33% less of my current deductions to invest on my own and put it into investment accounts that I choose. The way we are doing it right now earns only about 1.5% annual compounded interest, a complete idiot could get 3-5%% with the right types of investment and savings accounts. The interest earned could be taxed at a constitutionally limited rate to support a "safety net" for those that refuse to or are incapable of taking care of their own retirement. Option two would be a carrot and stick approach that would require a minimum investment for the "optional system". The monies offset in deductions would require full investment or you would pay a dollar for dollar penalty plus interest annually.
This should be a no-brainer to anyone with more than twenty years to go before retirement and the optional system would create a larger fund for a "safety net" for those that choose the government controlled system.
People would actually be able to retire earlier "if they so choose" but without the limitations on earned income of the mandated SS system.
The way the system is currently structured is designed to discourage earnings during retirement through onerous penalties and reductions in monthly payments.
This type of system would allow people to continue paying into the government system without limiting additional income and future investment.
People could then actually determine their own destinies.
Until we gain a firm hand on the runaway spending by our unesteemed congress, we are definitely a house of cards. If we truly desire to gain the upper hand and shore up our earthquake prone financial situation, We need to take a hard look at what we are currently spending and curb it. OK, here's just a few examples:
Cease all subsidies. Govt must stop funding.
Cease all foreign aid in the form of cash. If a country needs help, send books teachers, etc.
Stop all grants and gifts to organizations both foreign and domestic unfriendly to the US,
Stop all grants and gifts to foundations and organizations. That should be done by private organizations not govt.
Balance trade. If unable, establish tariffs. Best way to curb that is to manufacture it ourselves.
Bring industry home through better taxing and legislation options.
Develop and expand existing industries to compete internationally. Should be done by private sector not govt.
Develop coal for export. Again private sector.
Reestablish our Logging industry, steel industry, textiles, leather, high tech, etc.
Establish our oil exploration, drilling, and production facilities to gain energy independence.
Defund and disband non productive govt offices.
This is but a small sample of what can and must be done if we are to survive financially. However, to accomplish any of this, the govt has to get off the back of private enterprise by restructuring oppressive legislation which benefits the few but not the majority..
Ah, yes. Loans that were 10-30 years old brought this economy to its knees.
He did not warn Congress about the sub-prime mess because it was un-regulated. In 2005, Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel introduced a bill in the Senate to ban Freddie and Fannie from entering the sub-prime markets and no action was taken.
Unsustainable spending had nothing to do with our financial meltdown two years ago.
Ironically that was the same time Preparation – H was invented !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preparation_H
…and an – H – kinda looks like an 11
which is the sum of all evil ! /s
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article...
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/videos/?uri=chan...
See Video " Beware of 11 "
Sir, I applaud you. You are not wrong. However special interest groups on "K" Street will not see it our way. They are out for themselves, not for the health and welfare of the country and the citizenry.
I trust the people to fight to keep thier Liberty even if the system would economically collapse. The strenght would come fom rural areas. Even Mao understood rural was the key to a nation's strenght.
Let's just hope that the repubs now posses big, brass ones to get the job done. They have been known as the "go along to get along" bunch. I'm hoping that the new crop of reps and senators will tell the old boys' club to get on the wagon or go pack sand. We still have a bunch of rinos and dims to send onto the streets in 2012 and 2014.
It played a Big Part ….
You most certainly have heard of people re-financing the value of their house
and what do they do ?
They extend their loans many more years and catch up on Bills , mainly credit cards …
Reverse mortgages for senior citizens also were a problem leading up to
the mess …Which actually started in 1961 and exploded in 1989 with the
Department of Housing and Urban Development…
We fought the war on poverty and lost, we went broke trying to provide the under-classes with the same lifestyle as those of us who prosper through hard work.
Good OCP, many of us were screaming about these very problems in the seventies, but we were ignored – no one wanted to listen, especially the congress. It was kumbaya time and everyone wanted to party like crazy rather than face reality. Congress had its head up its rectum and the American people were fractured – war protests, oil embargo, deficits, ban the bra, draft card burning, etc. The hippies and freaks were in charge. And now many of those same people occupy positions of authority. Yeah, we were trying. There just weren't enough to cause change. Today we have the people to effect change in a real way, and we are finally on the move.
"……………by ignoring Warren Buffet's warning in 2002 of the danger sub-prime mortgages posed to this economy………"
Would the Warren Buffet 2002 "warning" that has consumed your brain,……
been necessary if Carter and Clinton had not meddled in the mortgage industry,……?????
Personally speaking, the money I labored for is mine. The government should have no say in what I do or do not do with it. I should be able to just piss it away if I want. But if I did piss it away, I would not expect someone else's money to cover for my mistakes. You make mistakes, you pay for it yourself.
The commercial shows the real truth. Donald Trump is correct with regard to his remarks concerning China.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4405058/uncut-donald-t...
Watch and weep. Bet Donald Trump would make a good president. He has the business and leadership skills. However, would he take a paycut to do the job?
Well, Ralph, Warren Buffet did not issue a warning about the CRA, now, did he?
You are 100% correct Rick, but one thing you failed to mention. Many of us who were skeptical
in the 70's are now old enough to qualify for SS, Mc and too many have had a change of heart.
Means testing is the only real answer to our dilemma, IMO.
Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel
That's Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, drone.
Yep, we are; and I would gladly take a lump sum payment at 5% interest compounded annually of what I have paid into Social Security over 42 years of employment.
Thank you, but allow me 6 more days of youth before hitting 55!
Fantasize MUCH Rick? Remember I am the bearer of COLD HARD REALITY.
How would you feel about 33 or 50% buy-out paid over 5 years.
Sorry, but the USA is broke, and bankrupt entities don't pay creditors 100% + interest.
We all know that.
It's a REAL BUMMER!
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Stop the massive legal immagration fron third world nations, they come to america and overwelm the welfare system.
Was that the point to my reply to you, or are you again just trying to be ideological?
I agree, the money is yours but as long as we're stuck with this stupid system that a majority of Americans are addicted to there is only one way to fix it and that is to change it or get rid of it.
If kids just starting up were given an option that still puts money into a "safety net" but allows them to direct investments toward their own retirement, both systems would grow at a phenomenally greater rate.
You can earn around 2.5% annually compounded interest in a savings account alone so why would you take 1.5% government interest when you can earn significantly more in a private account…?
The system we have discourages retirees from earning and it kicks them out of the tax pool at the same time, this is ridiculous and it needs to change.
My dad gets $1479.00 from SS, if her earns one nickel more than that amount his monthly payments are reduced thereby limiting what he can pay into the system.
Most seniors like to work after retirement to keep their minds and bodies busy, so why discourage that activity by penalizing them its sheer stupidity and it is designed for inevitable failure?
We need to stop screwing seniors and stop discouraging them from working if they are able and choose to do so without fear of ludicrous penalties.
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation then by deflation, the banks and the corporations will grow up around them, will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
"I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our constitution – taking from the federal government their power of borrowing."
-Thomas Jefferson
The main reason these progressives must be removed…
You sure know how to shatter my warm, fuzzy fantasy world with a cold shower of reality. Anyway, thanks for that much needed brain slap to reawaken me to the cruel, harsh world of reality.
LOL Sorry Rick, we're ALL losers in this one. Somehow methinks you weren't quite
as far away from reality as you might lead me to believe.
We could do it the same way that we won the election. 2010 is part 1. 2012 is part 2. It has to start in 10 or by 2012 or it will never happen, than it won't matter anymore. I believe most people have seen the light.
In Nebraska, we take pride in believing our senators first represent the people of Nebraska, not a specific political party.
Believe that all you like, drone. A senator is a senator.
Can't argue with you. A system that penalizes you for ambition is a bad thing.
Along with #5, repeal Davis-Bacon.
Yes, it is a house of cards, except a house made of actual playing cards is less likely to fall down.
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