Comments on: ReasonTV: Light Bulbs v. The Nanny State http://biggovernment.com/ngillespie/2009/10/06/reasontv-light-bulbs-v-the-nanny-state/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:08:39 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: FriendlyGrizzly http://biggovernment.com/ngillespie/2009/10/06/reasontv-light-bulbs-v-the-nanny-state/comment-page-1/#comment-161442 FriendlyGrizzly Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:37:19 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=13290#comment-161442 Momma: the screw-in CFs that flickered have been off the market for years; if any are left on the shelf it is because the shelf stockers did not rotate stock. Even the cheapies have electronic ballasts that step the frequency of the power quite high before it reaches the lamp itself. This does NOT hold true for the 2-pin plug-in lamps with separate choke-ballasts found in things like porch fixtures and some fixtures used in bathrooms, but even those are going away. Momma: the screw-in CFs that flickered have been off the market for years; if any are left on the shelf it is because the shelf stockers did not rotate stock. Even the cheapies have electronic ballasts that step the frequency of the power quite high before it reaches the lamp itself.

This does NOT hold true for the 2-pin plug-in lamps with separate choke-ballasts found in things like porch fixtures and some fixtures used in bathrooms, but even those are going away.

]]> By: FriendlyGrizzly http://biggovernment.com/ngillespie/2009/10/06/reasontv-light-bulbs-v-the-nanny-state/comment-page-1/#comment-161438 FriendlyGrizzly Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:34:41 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=13290#comment-161438 linkexpert: I hope like crazy you are being ironic here; if not, you sound like some pants-wetting, handwringing Prius driver. If you drop a CF, you do exactly what your mom did when she dropped that fever thermometer. a) grab a broom and dustpan b) sweep up the mess c) place in nearest wastebasket d) if of a mind to do so, wash that part of the floor e) go on with life linkexpert: I hope like crazy you are being ironic here; if not, you sound like some pants-wetting, handwringing Prius driver.

If you drop a CF, you do exactly what your mom did when she dropped that fever thermometer.

a) grab a broom and dustpan
b) sweep up the mess
c) place in nearest wastebasket
d) if of a mind to do so, wash that part of the floor
e) go on with life

]]> By: FriendlyGrizzly http://biggovernment.com/ngillespie/2009/10/06/reasontv-light-bulbs-v-the-nanny-state/comment-page-1/#comment-161414 FriendlyGrizzly Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:28:57 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=13290#comment-161414 My profession is lighting engineering and design. The big problem with the screw-in, self-ballasted compact fluorescent lamps is that most of the ones available at the consumer level are trash. Brand does not matter. Even the "name brands" come out of the Joy River Sunshine Collective #47, or the Our Peerless Hero Mao Labor Camp 3A, or other such delightful places in China. And that can change from week to week. I daresay that I have seen more failures in the "name brands" than I have in the house brands or other names no one ever heard of. The dedicated CFs (that is, 2- and 4-pin lamps with separate ballasts) are a quite honest and usable product. They do a remarkably good job in schools, office buildings, etc, and are quite reliable. You just don't find them in homes very much. I am able to get commercial-grade screw-ins, and they work reasonably well. But I won't even let a hardware store or DIY-center lamp in the house. My profession is lighting engineering and design. The big problem with the screw-in, self-ballasted compact fluorescent lamps is that most of the ones available at the consumer level are trash. Brand does not matter. Even the "name brands" come out of the Joy River Sunshine Collective #47, or the Our Peerless Hero Mao Labor Camp 3A, or other such delightful places in China. And that can change from week to week.

I daresay that I have seen more failures in the "name brands" than I have in the house brands or other names no one ever heard of.

The dedicated CFs (that is, 2- and 4-pin lamps with separate ballasts) are a quite honest and usable product. They do a remarkably good job in schools, office buildings, etc, and are quite reliable. You just don't find them in homes very much.

I am able to get commercial-grade screw-ins, and they work reasonably well. But I won't even let a hardware store or DIY-center lamp in the house.

]]> By: RichardR http://biggovernment.com/ngillespie/2009/10/06/reasontv-light-bulbs-v-the-nanny-state/comment-page-1/#comment-145798 RichardR Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:20:45 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=13290#comment-145798 I was looking around in WalMart yesterday and noticed that they are now making a compact florescent light that is enclosed in a frosted glass bulb that makes it look like an incandescent. You have to look closely to tell the difference. However, the price is the giveaway, about 10X. I was looking around in WalMart yesterday and noticed that they are now making a compact florescent light that is enclosed in a frosted glass bulb that makes it look like an incandescent. You have to look closely to tell the difference. However, the price is the giveaway, about 10X.

]]> By: 1redcent http://biggovernment.com/ngillespie/2009/10/06/reasontv-light-bulbs-v-the-nanny-state/comment-page-1/#comment-144602 1redcent Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:28:09 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=13290#comment-144602 The damned CFL light bulbs also cause migraines,so they are a physical hazard to any known migraine sufferer as well as to those who may, through the use of these bulbs, become a migraine sufferer. The damned CFL light bulbs also cause migraines,so they are a physical hazard to any known migraine sufferer as well as to those who may, through the use of these bulbs, become a migraine sufferer.

]]> By: 1GooDDaDDy http://biggovernment.com/ngillespie/2009/10/06/reasontv-light-bulbs-v-the-nanny-state/comment-page-1/#comment-141830 1GooDDaDDy Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:57:11 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=13290#comment-141830 Lets see now... Building for my future, and future of my little boys: 1. 3 AR-15’s plus 25 magazines. 2. 1 AR style .308 with scope. 3. 1 Springfield XD40 with laser sights. 4. 1 Ruger 9mm with laser sights. 5. 1 Mossberg 500 shot gun. (Just to keep it personal). 6. Assorted semi-auto .22 hand guns and rifles. 7. Over 6,000 rounds of ammo for all makes and models. 8. A 1 year supply of freeze dried food, enough for 3 hungry mouths each. 9. Now stashing light bulbs and batteries to last for 3 years. 10. The feeling that we’ll be just fine after the “Zombie Apocalypse” is over...priceless. Not Over. Lets see now…
Building for my future, and future of my little boys:

1. 3 AR-15’s plus 25 magazines.
2. 1 AR style .308 with scope.
3. 1 Springfield XD40 with laser sights.
4. 1 Ruger 9mm with laser sights.
5. 1 Mossberg 500 shot gun. (Just to keep it personal).
6. Assorted semi-auto .22 hand guns and rifles.
7. Over 6,000 rounds of ammo for all makes and models.
8. A 1 year supply of freeze dried food, enough for 3 hungry mouths each.
9. Now stashing light bulbs and batteries to last for 3 years.

10. The feeling that we’ll be just fine after the “Zombie Apocalypse” is over…priceless.

Not Over.

]]> By: davidinarkansas http://biggovernment.com/ngillespie/2009/10/06/reasontv-light-bulbs-v-the-nanny-state/comment-page-1/#comment-143018 davidinarkansas Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:29:21 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/?p=13290#comment-143018 They claim they are doing this for the environment, but the simple fact is CFL's are more dangerous that incandesants are. They contain mercury which is a deadly poison and they have to be disposed of properly.....do they really think that people are going to take all their burned out CFL's to a stupid recycling center instead of choosing the easy way of just throwing them in the regular trash, thus contaminating the landfills with mercury....i dont think so. Also, you have to install them and remove them by grabbing the base only....you cant do that in a recessed fixture. So what are they going to do for those of us who still have a lot of recessed fixtures around the house? I guess we'll just be in the dark.....thanks a lot you environmental kooks! I've used CFL's and the fact is, they dont last any longer than standard bulbs do...IN FACT, i have found they actually burn out QUICKER. I dont really know whose idea it was to go to these bulbs....but it was a hairbrained one. The environmental paranoia continues. They claim they are doing this for the environment, but the simple fact is CFL’s are more dangerous that incandesants are.

They contain mercury which is a deadly poison and they have to be disposed of properly…..do they really think that people are going to take all their burned out CFL’s to a stupid recycling center instead of choosing the easy way of just throwing them in the regular trash, thus contaminating the landfills with mercury….i dont think so. Also, you have to install them and remove them by grabbing the base only….you cant do that in a recessed fixture. So what are they going to do for those of us who still have a lot of recessed fixtures around the house? I guess we’ll just be in the dark…..thanks a lot you environmental kooks!

I’ve used CFL’s and the fact is, they dont last any longer than standard bulbs do…IN FACT, i have found they actually burn out QUICKER. I dont really know whose idea it was to go to these bulbs….but it was a hairbrained one.

The environmental paranoia continues.

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