Do the Democrats Have Any Solutions on Jobs? Anything at All?
by The New LedgerThe dominant Democrat leadership in Washington is terrified that people will actually start blaming them for historically high unemployment levels, despite their best efforts to create or save jobs in Texas District 85 and elsewhere. We’ll talk about how the markets perceive their possible solutions — and why none of them are likely to work — on today’s Coffee and Markets, a daily podcast from The New Ledger on politics, policy and the marketplace with Francis Cianfrocca, brought to you by BigGovernment.com.
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Jobs?
We don't need no stinking jobs, Obammy is a gonna save US all. We'll have a Chicken in every pot, and a Popeyes on every corner……….
well, we all know unemployment is a LAGGING indicator, so lets examine some LEADING indicators instead:
average home prices RISE 8.3% since president obama's inauguration
http://www.realestateabc.com/outlook/overall.htm
consumer confidence up 30% since president obama's inauguration
http://www.conference-board.org/economics/Consume...
dow jones up 30% since president obama's inauguration
http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&...
i can go on. and on. and on.
Obama STASH to da reskew… Jest axe them Detroiters… Day be waitin' in line for da cash ! Meanwhile, Rahm, Axelrod and Gibbs are playing "spin the bottle" to see who will take the blame for this gross mismanagement of our tax dollars. These people are corrupt beyond comprehension. Might as well add Stern from SEIU. They have NO IDEA what is coming at them in 2010. However, I WILL say….they are getting a clue and it ain't pretty !
ALL ABOARD ! The Obama bus is on a bobsled to hell ! It truly is entertaining to watch these idiots !
Isn't it though?
If the stakes weren't so high, it would be comedic theater. A combination of the Three Stooges, Little Abner, Benny Hill and the Keystone Cops, inbred with the Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight, all hopped up on Methamphetamines…………
sure. The government seizes all the means of production, and the foreclosed homes (Fannie and Freddie in the rental biz? coming soon…) and pretty soon they will have the ONLY jobs being created.
You have to listen to his close advisors to get a feel for what they really think.
Andy Stern has been to the White House 22 times. Most of anyone. Look up some of his youtubes and listen to his Marxist rants. Or Van Jones. Or Mark Lloyd. Or Anita Dunn.
It goes on…
The biggest lie of the last half century is that Obama is a 'centrist'. Every indicator- right in front of everyone's nose-
points to exactlt the opposite. He is a not-so-stealth marxist and Islamicist.
And that should be plenty cause for concern…
Bama already saved or created 50 million new jobs……..in China.
"With the fate of the world and America in the balance, liberals should leave the economy and the defense of the nation to conservatives."
That leaves little else for Liberals to do except molest childrens minds with NEA propaganda and homosexual-driven agendas. Oh yeah, and smoke pot.
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff
"The government seizes all the means of production"
whoa. lets get one thing clear: the gov't didn't 'seize' anything. it offered loans.
nobody put a gun to the companies, their board of directors, their shareholders and made them accept it.
Look out–our Dear Leader is warning us that rising government debt could lead to a "double dip" recession if deficit spending isn't curved. http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN1...
What's that, you say–our Dear Leader is finally seeing the light? Not so fast. I have no doubt that the Dear Leader's "solution" to rising government debt will be more taxes, disguised as "fees" and other such euphemisms. No way does a confirmed statist ever cut spending on anything.
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Since your so fond of links, of course it does not carry the wieght of the wiki or dailykos
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12387983309458816...
http://www.businessinsider.com/uncovered-tarp-doc...
Intimidation by the government to participate is so part of the progressive worldview that they see nothing wrong with it, so long as it is for the greater good, that being defined as good for progressives.
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Yeah but they are really good at those other things!
Progressives are a cancer that needs to be addressed, I don't think they understand that they are providing the diagnosis to the American people and pretty much insuring that there will be a cure.
Keep it progressives, your day is coming, but it's not the day you were hoping for.
Texas District 85? Is that a real one getting "stimulus" money? As it is, I am thankful Nancy will not be getting some extra votes after she swears in the newly-found representatives of Arizona Districts 15 and 00.
Sure, the Democrats have lots of solutions, real ones! Now if only they had real problems they could actually be applied to…
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why do you vote this down? this is GOOD NEWS for America! And suggests an economic recovery.
Apparently Obama is holding a Job's conference soon, but it's not to address the creation of jobs, it's to try and figure out how to force business to hire people the cannot afford to hire.
The illogic of the declaration followed by the description would be baffling if it did not come out of Obama's mouth, this double talk always lets him have it both ways with a complicit media.
It's bushes fault, it's the evil corporations, it's magical unicorns that are out to get him, it's all starting to fall on deaf ears, but then this administration is tone deaf itself.
12% unemployment here we come, brought to you by the usual suspects, the progressives.
Off the record, the official unemployment rate is at 17.5%.
They don't want to talk about that number.
Typical, say one thing, do another.
The problem is deficit, the answer is spending, only a progressive could torture any kind of reason out of that argument, but Obama and his insane clown posse do so on a regular basis.
Having a complicit media helps of course, one sided debates are the only debates progressives can win.
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US ECON: October Housing Starts Down 10.6%
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2009/11/18/afx713...
Gold futures hit record $1100 an ounce
http://www.marketwatch.com
Consumer confidence dips in October – Oct. 27, 2009
money.cnn.com/2009/10/27/news/
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ROFL!!!!!!
ThinkingMan, you are a hoot! Although, I don't think scott_z will appreciate your humor. The rest of us do, though.
And scott_z, the "gun" you mentioned was not meant to be taken literally, right? Because, FIGURATIVELY, the government did most certainly hold a gun to companies' heads, forcing them to take loans. But statists have limited memory retention, so we understand your plight.
Yeah I know, under-employed, unreported etc. At 12 it will be more like 20, which should be the breaking point for the average american
Fear not, with this new $3000 tax credit idea they are floating I can hire an illegal to mow my grass.
The idiocy of the left never stops amazing me, they could not make a profit running a lemonaide stand if they were given free lemons and air time on tv to sell it in downtown arizona during the middle of summer.
*sniffle*
We don't have a Popeye's on every corner in Arizona… PayDay Loans and other "loan sharking" establishments, though, we do.
AGAIN, may i repeat myself for those who choose not to listen:
these stats are *still higher* than when he took office. they are clearly trending up. you can cherry pick data to serve your purpose if it makes you feel better, i guess.
you are blind to the forest through the trees.
Oh no, now he will bomb you with Wiki quotes and daily kos de-bunking quotes by a 20 something that graduated with a 2 year degree in vegan politics.
Reality isnt something progressives feel they need to participate in, it's just something for the peasants to worry and deal with on their own time, which becomes less and less each year.
I wonder if the progressives realize they are the new wanna be slave owners, I wonder if they care?
Conference-board.org??? Never heard of it.
Why not cite an authoritative, respected, non-partisan poll, like Rasmussen Reports?
Uh, 'cuz today's presidential approval rating is at NEGATIVE 14, tied with his record low. And it should drop more as his bogus stimulus numbers are exposed and unemployment continues to climb.
Since they are creating pretend jobs it only follows that they should be creating pretend districts, in a very corrupt kind of way I suppose it's logical.
actually they did put a gun against their heads- figuratively, of course…
SEIU runs GM. Check it out. (Not to mention the New York Fed reserve, but that's another story) They have no intention of letting go of it, either. Ford escaped by the skin of their teeth- and is making a profit. The administration 'offered' loans- and then changed the rules of the game after they hwere accepted so as to put said corporations in indentured servitude.
Your posts bring cluelessness to a new level…
"Wiki quotes and daily kos de-bunking quotes"
that nobody on this forum could manage to explain how or why any statements or assertions contained therein were logically or factually incorrect.
there is such thing as objective truth. that people not ideologically aligned with you speak it does not mean it isn't truth.
Sure they have ideas, they even put them into practice.
Buy votes with other peopels money while making promises they cant keep, increases taxes to pay for a few scraps to throw to the peasants and make then reliant on you, then grow government to increase your powerbase, repeat until the evil private sector collapses, utopia has been achieved when the private sector is the government.
What could possibly go wrong?
Funny.
By the time these clowns are through, with the de-valuation of the dollar and factoring in inflation, it will probably cost $1,500.00 to mow the average sized yard………..
Again hysterically funny, when someone gives you a quote they need to speak for themselves, when you give a link they need to rebut every point in it.
You are the post child for hypocrisy
"when someone gives you a quote they need to speak for themselves"
not too many people actually provide much in the way of references or hard data on this blog.
Nope.
they could have chosen bankruptcy.
Nope.GM board of directors and president runs GM. SEIU doesn't get to make the bankruptcy call. where are you getting this ridiculousness from?
they, board of directors and company presidents, could have chosen bankruptcy.
Politicians interpret Descartes:
It receives funding therefore it is.
they were coerced…
And Andy Stern makes all the calls for the unions, UAW included, which owns i7.5% of GM and has an
Obama/Stern approved watchdog Steven Girsky lording over them.
All of their business decisions are political, such as the refusal to sell Opel, whichis infuriating the Germans. But once you've seized the means of production, being good little commies, you don't let go.
Continue your cluelsess path, Mr Kool aid…
Nope.
Bankruptcy was not an option for AIG. It would have taken the entire financial system down, although I am sure the complications therein are beyond your pay grade.
What a a large portion of AIG's business? Wrapping the junk paper of Fannie and Freddie; a fraud perpetrated by Bawney Fwank………..
No.
"they were coerced… "
aw, you mean some people disagreed with them!
coerced NOTHING. it was their jobs, their responsibility, THEIR CALL.
not sure whether to credit your inane tenacity- you clearly do not know what you're talking about- or jus shrug and say 'dummy'… SEIU spent $60 million to elect this guy and they OWN him. The sooner you get a clue- oh, wait, forget about it…
Obama himself said we may be headed for a "double-dip recession, just yesterday I believe.
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are you attempting to refute the fact that GM board of directors and president runs GM,and makes the call on whether to accept gov't funds and the strings attached, or declare bankruptcy and rebuild. And that SEIU doesn't get to make the bankruptcy call.
we can agree on this, right?
Not when hes bought and paid for. Because when people buy and pay for you and you don't do what you are suppose to "accidents" happen. And given SEIUs history of using violence….
1 and 1 make 2, then 2 and 1 make 3, put the pieces together and this should be easy to see…. of course liberals tend to be bad at math, which is why they dont get higher paying jobs and have to take other peoples money….
Bankruptcy most certainly WAS an option for AIG. Just as it was for Lehman Bros.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehman_Brothers#Liqu...
sorry. GM board of directors and president runs GM,and makes the call on whether to accept gov't funds and the strings attached, or declare bankruptcy and rebuild.
this much is fact.
Side stepping the charge doesnt answer it.
more spending of taxpayers money…..lol
The government put the guns to their heads AFTER they accepted it. The government cited that particular term AFTER the deal was done. What Obama is doing right now is acting like a good little fascist. You know, like the Nazis did in pre-WWII Germany. Oh, you thought Nazis were leftwingers? Why is that, because Queen Nan told you? Fascists (Nazis were German fascists) were always leftwingers. Stalin and Hitler were best buds at one time, until Stalin stabbed Hitler in the back and the rest is history, as we say.
The guy currently running GM has no car experience. You will excuse me if I forgot his name. He's the same guy from Wall Street who in one deal, bequeathed over $16M to Rahmbo the Ballerina. Rahm had no banking experience, so what's the diff? This was clearly a quid pro quo.
By the way, Rahm was on the Board of Freddie during the time the books were being cooked. He earned $375,000 for attending 6 meetings in which it was discussed how to pull the wool over the eyes of the American public. Rahm, btw, studied ballet in college. Good ol' Rahm; what a guy.
His name should be Dear Reader.
So who's cashing the checks?
David Buckner of Columbia University, who is also a Fortune 500 consultant, said that we are heading towards an asset bubble which, God forbid if it bursts, will see the dollar collapse. That the currrent "recovery" isn't real. He said the government is supposed to be the watchdog over the Fed but in this case, the government is working hand in hand with the Fed. If the bubble bursts, the government will be the first to bail and leave the rest of us holding the ball. He said that England, Europe, India and China are shying away from buying the dollar and are now buying gold. If the dollar collapses, it will be up to them to decide if the US is too big to fail. He also said that the government will either have to raise prices or raise taxes, either of which will cause inflation. The government is spending on borrowed money that the Fed has provided. Bernanke is talking about raising interest rates – not for a season or for a year, but when the free money is gone, the assets must be paid back.
I took notes. Just for you, scotty.
Hers how Obama and his smart socialist brethren think jobs are created..the more the govt. screws things up the more people they have to hir to fix the problems the create…ad nauseum
so it's agreed then.
GM board of directors and president runs GM,and makes the call on whether to accept gov't funds and the strings attached, or declare bankruptcy and rebuild.
therefore, the gov't didn't 'seize' anything. it offered loans. if you look at the top of the thread, that was my only assertion. my only point.
QED.
Did Obama just outsource the Recovery.gov?
even you agree…you go on and on…you repeat yourself… what makes you think somebody wants to hear that…your posts arent as precious and convincing as you think they are, you have an over-inflated sense of your arguments, how unusual for a lib, your hero Obama is an idiot, and like seeks like
you bet we are…
You have no idea the brutal pressure put on GM to take this 'deal'. Then Rick Waggoner, again at the behest of Stern, was replaced with Fritz Henderson, a reliable stooge. Listen- has any of the assets the government acquired been returned to the free market yet? They won't even let some of the lending institutions pay back their loans and free themselves. GM is truly 'Government Motors' and will never matriculate back to the private sector as long as they are in charge. Something about 'green jobs' and Van Jones.
Maybe you've heard about that, Same with General Electric, although they are willing accomplises. You may be a liberal and happy with big government- but this bunch is about TOTAL control. By monitizing our debt they will crash the economy- but guess who will have all the wealth then? If you said the federal government you'd be right- and 100 million US citizens will have their accumulated wealth wiped out.
Do yourself a favor and do some background on his unappointed 'czars'. You might be surprised at what you will find…
I refute your data, hows that, oh yeah my opinion dosent count cuase scott z. says
no, he didn't. this is what i am talking about: "objective truth"
he warned that too much spending or too many tax cuts may introduce a double dip recession. but he did not say we may be headed for one.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091118/ap_on_re_as/a...
Obama has already spent more deficit than all other presidents combined, and has already promised and broken promises about not raising taxes on taxpayers under 250,000, which means in my understanding that we are headed for a second rescission. You may take it diffidently, we shall see. Bur, the commodities market are betting with me.
so now we go from "Obama himself said we may be headed to… " to "StlDan thinks we are headed to …"
"objective truth". it was one of the cornerstones of Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'
A is A.
if you care to refute my data, post your own.
im not a geek that posts data that refutes scott z.
Based on data present when Obama said what he said and he said it in "political speak", I stand by my current statements, admittedly conjecture, but I have put most of my money where my conjectures are. And, I do not take Obama at face value, fault me for it if you will. I am as politically astute as you appear to be, and appreciate your honest debate. We have and most likely will continue to disagree on conjecture and "facts" Thank you. (and I might add, I NEVER mark someone down merely for disagreeing, only for bigoted and racist statements)
Not that you have made any.
A teenager could have redesigned that website for $1,000.
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@scott_z tell you what scottie… you let you sunshine and roses stats keep you dancing with glee. before Obama's inauguration I was able to turn on my central heat and a/c. I am now typing this huddled next to a wood stove. My husband could take me out to dinner once each week. Since the Obama's started enjoying their extravagant date nights and latin dance nights, we have only been able to afford to go out once every 2-3 MONTHS. Beans and rice are now a staple of our diet and I hope like hell my husband can bag 2-3 deer when hunting season starts on the 22 of this month or we will be eating only beans and rice until I can get a spring garden flourishing.
PT. II
Are we the working poor? NO! My husband earns $75k per year so we don't qualify for any of your prescious Obama's government cheese. Why is it so frapping hard for us then? (1) because our children fell on hard times and we went into debt to try to help them out of trouble. (2) The Banks thanked us for the bailouts by jacking up our credit card rates to 30%. *since we had a mortgage, auto loan and student loans of our own, we had to use our credit cards to help our kids* (3) Here it is the end of 2009…ALL 3 of our kids lost their jobs because of their companies GOING OUT OF BUSINESS and have STILL not been able to find adequate employment. One son is leaving the country to find work, my daughter *a widow and now single mother* found a minimum wage job but was cut back and back and back on here hours until she was finally "let go" two days ago…she and her child are now penniless and my oldest son, though working a full time job, only earns enough to pay his shelter expenses (he lives in Florida and can't afford to get out). So we are now supporting 3 households off our $75k or so.
Pt. III Do the math. That brings us down to the level of earning about $25k per household while still paying at the $75k tax rate.
I know what is coming fiscally. You can't more than double the debt of a country in less than a year and not cripple your citizens financially via insane and crushing inflation. By next year, my husband will be earning $75,000 or so per year and we will be living (1) without electricity or running water and (2) eating only what we can grow or kill ourselves. The only reason I know I will survive this economy is because I was homeless for the first 3 years of my adult life and I LEARNED how to survive.
SCREW your statistics! The facts on the damn ground are what count!
God help the average person who has never before known hardship.
God help them survive your prescious messiah's glorious revolution!
P.S. Will the Obama administration be requiring hell to purchase carbon credits? Or will they get the "friends and family " exemption like SEIU & ACORN?
Re: Your headline
No.
Make the next question a little harder, please.
Post hoc ergo proctor hoc. The US economy is orders of magnitude greater than the tiny fraction of the Recovery funds spent. The economic indicators are basically following the preductions I have from 18 months ago. Obama has done nothing to earn any particular credit either way; really his best bet is just to sit back and take credit when things get better in the next couple of years.
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