The Healthcare Bill Would Be Obama’s ‘Enabling Act’

"Why are Barack Obama and other Democrat leaders so intent on passing a government takeover"

How can you possibly justify calling it a "government takeover"? It's nonsense and you know it.

And anyone who believes you is stupid.

I am very much going to enjoy seeing it passed. And don't know if you've heard but there gonna attach the bill to overhaul of federal student loan programs further helping the middle class.

And pass it's gonna. And you know it.

No scheme is too extreme for Obama and the progressives. We are in serious trouble.

This would explain why this health care bill needs to be passed now when the benifits dont take effect till 4 years later.

Every single action by Obama is to increase governmental power and dependency of citizens on it.

You are the one that is stupider than Jupiter.
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Earth calling Democrats! Planet Earth calling Democrats! Do you hear me, Democrats? The American People want health care reform, they just don't want YOUR health care reform! It's not a partisan issue. If it was the GOP trying to ram this down our throats, we'd be just as mad! Listen to the polls! WE DON'T WANT THIS !!! http://patrioticmobster.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/...

Even if you want to see Health Care Reform passed, do you really think they way they are going about it is good for our country?

If he wants to "reform" the health care system he should ask the Republicans for help with it instead of asking them to act as cheering section for what the American people DO NOT WANT!!!

Dependents of government are permanent Democratic voters. Power is the game, Obamacare is the move.

Ellie

The WHOLE agenda since the election has been a socialist wet dream. KEYWORD: dream. WE the PEOPLE will not let that become a reality. The progressives have been drinking kool-aid spiked with viagra.

Don't try to reason with Anon he went to see Alice in Wonderland last night and it's still messing with his head.

Who says Progressives aren't Fascists? +Hanzo+

Yes. It's important legislation and the GOP saying no every step of the way leaves few choices.

And when people figure out the good it does Obama's popularity will skyrocket.

I had hoped common sense would prevail but 'anon the anus' is probably right. If it does pass, we'll deal with it, and they, later.

I can see from your spelling and grammar that this might be above your reading comprehension, but, if you would get out of the echo chamber in which you delve, and read some political analyst's findings, you would know that this bill is designed, and constructed to lead to single payer for all. Comprehension means you *get it*, in case you're from Rio Linda.

"trying to influence the ignorant into voting against their own best interest"
as spoken by a true elitist.
Do you even listen to yourself? YOU, know what's in someones "best interest", and anyone who disagrees is "ignorant"
And THAT is exactly why people like you become DANGEROUS once they gain power over others.

Asking republicans to contribute to this bill is like asking a mugging victim to give their pin and directions to the closest atm. The problem is that the Rep. suggestions are incremental and easier to correct when Murphy's Law is realized.

For what its worth, before Hitler was made Chancellor – the previous Weimar govenments had been ruling by Presidential decrees, not laws passed in the Reichstag. To quote from Wikepedia: "The last four cabinets of the republic (Brüning I and II, Papen, Schleicher) are even called "presidential" cabinets (Präsidialkabinette) because the presidential decrees more and more replaced the Reichstag legislature." So, Hitler had precedent on his side. Obama, not so.

And some wonder Why there's a 2nd amendment.

Hitler.

They have had a plan on the table for at least six months now and every single time it has come to the floor Nancy "the doll face" Pelosi has used her Speaker's privilege to table the motion for a roll call vote…

Transparency?

NOT!

NSDAP Political Platform, item #20 "We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession" OR
item #21. The State is to care for the elevating national health…. which lead to "rationing boards
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/25points.html
or perhaps the Soviet Constitution Article 42. Citizens of the USSR have the right to health protection. OR
Article 45. Citizens of the USSR have the right to education: "… by the provision of state scholarships and grants and privileges for students" http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/russian/const...

@ about :24-:28?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzjml4_T-jc

So maybe now everyone will see why that birth certificate is so important.

Progressives do! Didn't you go to public school? If you had you would certainly know that Conservatives, or any other freedom loving person is a Fascist. It's just a fact!

I'm getting tired of this crap. Alot of my comments don't get posted, as well as other peoples, yet their are abject idiots like "anon" posting copious amounts of BS.

I just posted the same mthing here four times and it got deleted. It really torques my off. Some of my best work, vanished. I could have maybe even won a Nobel Prize like Barry the Brazen…..

You like "conditional liberty"?

The solution is called free markets created by free people not draconian laws imposed by a fascist messianic dictator!

I believe this regime tried the 'declaring a state of emergency' just last year with the Swine Flu break out, declaring it a national emergency then trying to step in and get immunizations to everyone (which they failed at). What I can't figure out is how this nation refuses to act. We have the people opposing this HC take over but that doesn't seem to be enough it almost seems as if we need to converge on Washington and show them we object. Do we all get in our cars and drive there? This bill will pass, we will be looking down the barrel of National Health Care and we are screwed. Anyone read the story of Obumble seizing 13 million acres of land for 'monuments'? I believe there was a leader in the past that also was seizing land and it didn't turn out well for anyone.

Ha ha, I know what you're saying.Some of my best work has also vanished into "Moderator's Hell".

Perhaps they're keeping a selection of our best works to make a book someday? ;^)

+Hanzo+

Anyone for impeachment? Why wait until November 2010 or 2012??

A book?

They probably will be used as " Exhibit #1" by the Special Prosecutor.

"In 1933, having campaigned for “hope” and “change,” the National Socialist Worker’s Party forced through the German parliament a Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Nation, also known as the Enabling Act."

Look on the bright side. They built good roads, and crematoriums

"History affords many examples of regimes whose motto was “Never let a crisis go to waste.” In 1933, having campaigned for “hope” and “change,” the National Socialist Worker’s Party forced through the German parliament a Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Nation, also known as the Enabling Act."

I guess this means I live in “interesting times.”

I think they have medication for that!!

It's happened to me three times today!! Getting to be very annoying!

"I like forcing every one to buy insurance. I'd tired of paying for the scum sucking losers that don't insure themselves. I guess you like subsidizing these losers with your hard earned dollars. I don't."

Apparently you haven't seen Obamacare's price tag for your wallet. I'll be going from $186.00 a month for an insurance plan I love (an HSA which will be outlawed) to $760.00 a month.

Maybe I'll just become one of those people who pays the tax penalty and hopes for the best.

Great government we have here. Yessirreee…

Why are Barack Obama and other Democrat leaders so intent on passing a government takeover of healthcare now…Now…NOW?__BECAUSE ANDY STERN IS GOING TO BREAK HIS LEGS IF HE DOESNT

I'll check it out, Chopper, thanks. I always have a few "ornamental" swords hangin' aroung myself, obviously. Along with a .45. ;^) +Hanzo+

Now there's a thought, Cowbot.Oh well, guess we'll have to wear that as a badge of honor! +Hanzo+

Is Michael Zak out of his *&^^$^#@ mind????

The way to solve any problem is to start with the basics. The problem: 1) 30 million without health insurance, and 2) cost.
The begining solution is to enable insurance companies to sell across state lines. Some states now require insurance companies to cover idiotic things like toupees, and seniors to be covered for pregnancy. If people can choose their coverage from a host of companies, costs will come way down.

Then, tort reform is necessary. The number of lawyers on the tv telling people that somewhere, somehow they have been damaged and they should immediately call 1-800 s-h-y-s-t-e-r is legion.

Also in the mix should be medical saving account. That's an idea whose time has come. Now add catatrophic coverage for major problems and about half of the uninsured will be able to buy coverage. For the remaining ten to fifteen million uncoverable people, congress ahould, if closely watched, be able to cover without screwing up the other 90% of America. At least too badly.

Anon,
Exactly how is it in our best interest? Because we need to be protected from the big bad insurance companies? Because it will make our economic future better?
I can give you countless failed Government interventions and entitlements. Why exactly is this one going to be different? Is it because it is the will of your lord and savior Obamao?
Dept. Of Education, despite billions we are still told we need to spend more to compete.
Dept of Homeland Security, despite billions spent, we arent any safer than we were on Sept 10th 2001.
Dept of Housing and Urban Development, despite billions spent, many are still facing forclosure,
Amtrak, despite billions spent, the train still needs money to operate
Postal Service, despite years of government subsidies, the postal service is broke and cutting mail to 5 days a week.

continued:
ICE/Immigration, depite billions spent, we have more illegal aliens than ever, running, jumping and swimming.
ATF despite bilions spent, stolen hand guns still find a way into the hands of criminals.
Social Security despite billions borrowed from, and billions stolen from tax payers, social security is on the verge of being broke.
Medicare despite billions spent, medicare goes to the healthcare of illegal aliens, and fraudsters, while denying benefits to those that need it.
IRS, a tax code so complicated and convoluted, you need an army of lawyers and accountants to sort through it.
EPA despite billions pumped into it, we still have global cooling, and a hostile regulatory arm that crushes energy producers as well as companies that produce jobs.
So by my account, I think another government boondoggle is just what we need. I am sure you agree

Given that the federal Constitution is silent about public healthcare, the 10th Amendment automatically reserves government power to regulate healthcare to the states, not the Oval Office and Congress. So Obama, Reid and Pelosi are criminally ignoring the following.

Article V requires Reid and Pelosi to rally Congress to propose an appropriate healthcare amendment to the states for ratification. And should the states choose to ratify such an amendment, then Congress would have the power to regulate healthcare.

On the other hand, the states can always choose not to ratify such an amendment, in which case Congress remains without constitutional authority to regulate healthcare.

In the meanwhile, Reid and Pelosi are treasonously basing Obamacare legislation on constitutionally nonexistent federal government powers. So they might just as well make legislation to build a federal prison for corrupt congressmen and move into it.

The bottom line is that Constitution-defending patriots have a big mess to clean up in DC in this year’s midterm elections.

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It's never happened to me until this afternoon…The only word in my
post was socialist, otherwise it seemed ok to me, actually socialist
seems like it would be ok too….

We are acting. We're preserving teh law by acting within the law.

30-40% of people born in America generally don't share teh values of liberty. Prior to 1917, the Seante was structured to preven nonsense at teh fedeal level. Wilson changed it in cooperation with Teddy R (dam those Teds) -but – many millions are awake and acting. Here we teapartiers just put our candidate in charge of the Repub party.

Dems are afraid to show their faces – they are ashamed. As these people grasp tighter, more people slip through and are repelled. There will be a tipping point. It wil.

Obama NEEDS a Desparate people willing to do anything – Americans don't get desparate when threatened, we turn, fight back and prevail – for now this war is non-violent. We will work thru 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016. If there's a progressive – they get primaried or voted out in teh general. We demand teh Attorney's general felony prosecute corruption – for teh small fry who enable the big fish as well as the big fish. When we control congress we throw Slaughter out etc. Have faith

and in what mythical place do these free markets exist, my friend.