GOV2.0: Napsterize Education
by Morgan Warstler
In my last article, we began a discussion of GOV2.0. Over the next couple weeks, I’ll sketch some sexy details. Commenters, keep tossing out your ideas.
Tea Partiers! Here’s how to save every state budget. Let’s hoist our pirate flag high.
In New York City a movie ticket costs $15 – about $7.50 a hour. Three months later it is out on DVD, and you can own it for $15. Twenty eight days later, you can put it, along with thousands of other movies, in your Netflix queue for $9 a month. Eighteen months later, it plays on HBO, along with a great show about having multiple wives, for $10 a month.
Or, if you prefer, you can download a watchable copy of the movie the day it comes out for free… because a lone pirate secreted a HDcam into a theater and jacked into the hearing impaired outlet in his seat.
The movie cost $150MILLION to make. The hooligan did it for free.
And oh, by the way, if your kid is still buying music, you might sit her down for a talk about the virtues of sharing.
For the rabid capitalist, it is crucial to recognize that property rights emerge from the scarcity of the atomic. There is value in creative ownership, but let’s be rational… if we could copy land, food, and oil, the concept of “ownership” would be radically different; there would be riots in the streets if limits on these staples were artificially enforced.
Meanwhile, Wikipedia has this entry called “Public Ivy,” showing plenty of state funded gold plated colleges to plunder.
Some more napkin math: the average tuition per student at an out-of-state Public University is $18,548. Assuming 15 hours of classes for 32 weeks (two semesters) – a single hour (one lecture) runs about $38; that’s 5X what an hour of a $150Million Hollywood blockbuster costs you.
You know where this is going, right? Why in the bejesus are we not paying kids to record their professors’ lectures and put them online so we can steal them for our own use?
Why haven’t all these lectures been legally placed in the public domain, so that Internet companies can build businesses persuading kids to skip school, save money, and graduate online?
Without getting too deep into webco start up jargon, I think everyone groks the basics of evergreen content. In this context, we’re talking about video files that do not decrease in value as they grow older (like movies).
Example: Lecture #11 of Professor Warstler’s ECON204: “Public Goods” is the same every damn semester. And yet, twice a year, 100 new students are packed into a room to listen to him say the same damn thing for $3800.00 per hour. It rarely changes, but next year, kids will pay even more to hear him say it again. Even crazier, there’s another professor 250 miles away teaching the same class.
In web economics, this situation is GOLD. Because unlike a Hollywood blockbuster or “Chocolate Rain” that gets all its action right after its launch, a single recording of Warstler’s ECON204 lecture can be improved endlessly and watched by millions of people over the next twenty years.
If you have any nagging doubts, think of the glorious new private sector businesses that can be built around this public domain content!
Imagine online colleges where you only pay a couple of bucks when you have a question or need to have a test graded. Imagine college that comes free when you buy a new $500.00 55″ LCD TV at Wal-Mart. Imagine being able to test similar lectures from hundreds of professors to see which one is best at conveying information to visual learners, kids from the ghetto, or you when you are sixty. Imagine needing only a fifth/tenth/twentieth of the college professors to teach three times as many students.
The truly talented faculty who survive will be high paid rock-stars with staffs. Like Paul Krugman without a beard or inflation fetish.
Sure, if your kid needs to have the good old college experience and put himself (and you) $150K+ in debt, then by all means you can send the lad off to the glories of keggers and Marxist re-education.
But if he’s an over-achiever, he can start taking college courses about whatever interests him when he’s in ninth grade, or working as a convenience store clerk at night, or sitting in jail, or if he just doesn’t understand the shitty professor you are PAYING for him to sit in class with right now.
Why, in a copyable economy like public education, doesn’t every child deserve the lessons of the world’s premiere teacher in every subject?
This information wants to be free. And the best way to make that happen is to make it legal to copy and profit from the improvement of it. Moreover, it is a public good. Our tax dollars pay for it. It is ours. We want it hocked for pennies on every street corner. There is no better example of Schumpeter’s Creative Destruction.
National and state Republicans, get cracking. Promise to make in-class recordings in every public university legal and distributable under a Creative Commons license that allows commercial application.
In ten years time, every state budget will be in balance. The very best video lectures will improve daily, educate millions online, and thousands of liberal academics will have to go get real jobs.
I kid you not.
A small change to your state’s rules about recording in the classroom, can save your family thousands in taxes and hundreds of thousands in tuition.
Demand it.
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We need to do away with the child indoctrination warehouse complex and get back to simple community based schools that base their curricula on skills necessary to life not what Washington DC 'thinks' they 'need to know'…
Kids aren't political tools and we need to treat them like the future of America not the cattle that ideologues intend to use for their own political ends.
This topic is boring… Let's talk about something in the news, like the 42,000 gallons of oil that is leaking into the Gulf of Mexico each day and threatening the U.S. coastline from Louisiana to Florida. Drill Baby Drill!
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Only one problem — who's going to baby sit the kids while we're at work?
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One beautiful aspect of this idea is that a professor who knows their lectures are going to be distributed to millions of Americans will probably not push a Marxist ideology quite so hard. Sunlight as disinfectant and all.
Never went to school eh? That's all right the world needs ditch diggers too……oh wait an illegal alien has that one, better get yourself to AZ ASAP where there will plenty of those jobs for citizens in about 90 days. Either that or learn a job a trained chimp can do and then join a union.
So you think you know me? Tell me about myself.
Your native habitat is under a bridge near the soros estate, living with many trolls out of direct sunlight.
If you have a spouse, she avoids buckets of water from little girls with small dogs wearing red shoes.
You probably read any stories about your heroes like Rosie O'donnell. Maddow is on your DVR and you might glance at Rush Limbaugh for free so you can get quotes to use out of context.
And your car? You'd probably drive a prius, until the dear leader had his lackies start destroying the company that makes them.
Not bad. But I drive a Camry, not a Prius.
If he joined a union, all he would have to do is sit on his ass and claim that he was being treated unfairly!
You are a liberal idiot, what Stalin would call a "useful idiot". 'Nuff said!
Always happy to be useful.
I like it. A free market for education, on a professor by professor basis rather than a university by university basis. The one problem would be with lab courses. I can watch as many lectures as I'd like, but I'm not going to know how to print a photograph until I get my hands in the fixer tray. As for Math, there's no reason why one professor couldn't teach 100,000 students at once. History and English could have the lectures taped, and then class discussion can happen on message boards (powered by intensedebate(TM)).
How it will save money isn't stated as clearly as it could be, though. I understand how this will save me, a parent, a boatload of cash, but I'm not sold on how it cuts costs for the government.
I like the idea of state owned colleges putting their material online. Remember though, unlike the original napster this work would still be owned by either the lecturer or the college. So who's going to do it? No-one – too much value in having a job. You need to find a lecturer who wants to do this – good luck with that!
it sounds like your living in some kind of fantasy land, most of learning in college is interacting with those around you, not to mention there are also books and other materials needed for the classroom courses.. may I ask, have you ever even attended a single college level class in your entire life? I hate to say it but this fantasy your painting, I just cant see it ever being a reality there are already tons and tons of on line classes and video class courses you can get a hold of for much lower cost than attending actual classes.. and guess what, not a single one has supplanted classroom learning in even the slightest way. Your expecting people who have trouble learning on their own to teach themselves what to do and where to go.. this is the big fail in your plan i hate to say..
Also if the drilling occurred in ANWR an ocean spill wouldn’t be an issue. Yes, drill, baby drill.
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Not a bad idea Morgan.
I'd like to see the "BIG Education" thread put up also. (still waiting) *sigh*. Talk about the Indoctrination road block. I hope its still in the works?
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If you really want to talk something else then you go right ahead and persue it. There are no chains holding you here. Or, if you have something to say other than insulting and antagonizing folks write it up as a well thought out piece and submit it to Andrew. Who knows, perhaps the masses would read it and take you a bit more seriously if you put the effort into a well articulated column. Just a thought, as a mind still is a terrible thing to waste.
I related this sort of idea to my local radio guy.His wife is a teacher so he poo-pooed it.I thought Bill Nye the Science Guy was a great way to teach.And you only need ONE teacher for an entire subject.We can have aids that are paid a lot less than a unionized teacher in class to help with a good teacher on the big screen in front or even daily productions like a tv show.Like Sesame Street does, without the Marxist indoctrination.
Heck if it weren't for schoolhouse rock I wouldn't know what an adjective was.
I don't know what this garbage is doing on BigGovernment. Is this a joke, a "modest proposal" of sorts? Or is this what liberal teachers are planning on teaching future generations?
>if we could copy land, food, and oil, the concept of “ownership” would be radically different; there would be riots in the streets if limits on these staples were artificially enforced.
?????????
Are you seriously arguing that human ingenuity, which is at the root of music, movies, etc., is NOT a scarce resource? That you would eagerly exploit people to do the hard work for you, then just "copy" their house, their land, their stuff for nothing? Are you the kind of person who is OUTRAGED(tm) that companies make people pay not just for the physical production of the product, but for shipment, advertising, taxes, bills, what have you? If so, you need a big fat primer on basic economics. I recommend, as usual, Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics (3rd Ed.).
The worst thing a system can do, whether educative or social, is to make people believe that the source of their knowledge isn't worth paying for, in other words, that it's easy for a professor to gather their own knowledge. Oh, of course, he goes there and claims that a "lesson" can simply be recorded and repeated – thus showing he knows about teaching as much as, I'm sorry to say, the average hyperunionized overpaid underworked teacher.
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Let's see if that argument get's you into Alaska.
just think mika ( don't hurt yourself though) If we implement what Morgan is suggesting we wouldn't need all of that nasty, stinky, killing everyone and everything on the planet oil. We could create the ultimate "GREEN" ( I know you love it already!!) classroom.
Think of it….. No cars burning gas carrying beer soaked from last night students into class….No large buildings to fuel… hell… no larger campus's to build…. Hell…. take a bulldozer ( a bio fuel run bulldozer) and turn Harvard, Columbia Berlely etc into reclaimed wetlands. Then some of the profs and lefty's could really live like Thoreau instead of just pontificate like it.
There you go!!! Now repeat after me mika…Se su puede!
Se su puede!
Se su puede
Hate to say this but,…….even though your presentation is a bit rough,…………
you are indeed, in my humble opinion, totally correct.
Human interaction is something that we, as a modern society, are starting to fail to recognize the importance of.
However, how do we address the unjustified cost of a college education.,….??????
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Did this post offend you? Lighten up a bit sunshine.
It’s not an argument, but a statement of fact.
Uninteresting… try again.
How do you justify stealing the Professor's work? Professors put a lot of knowledge and time in creating classes. You are unknowingly promoting marxism.
We have a whole generation not knowing what marxism is. This book lays out Marx's ideas in an in a easy to understand illustrative way.
http://www.amazon.com/Journal-Ideas-Illustrative-...
The problems lies in the way our system has been going…Unions, Federal Briberies to state officials with our tax dollars, taking our school's control aways from local government etc……
Actually I think MIT did this on their own. You can search for their lectures online and see them for yourself for free.
http://www.PoliticalCentrist.com News and views for independent voters
Yet still there is no drilling there. Must be more to this issue than just your fact.
Why not give them a DOSE OF CHICAGO STYLE POLITICS……
An exciting idea to think about. I think a great market, which also fits the times we are living in, is more options for non-traditional students to beef up their education. Companies could purchase whole programs creating a workplace environment that is constantly developing. In industries which are constantly developing they can subscribe to yearly curriculum (technology, IT, engineering, marketing…). However, I see many problems with this idea. Mainly, intellectual property rights controlled by Universities. Traditional students could take some core classes independently but would it be accredited? That is a whole other issue. Students are not just paying for the education, they are also paying the University to recognize their work (paying for a degree). If I were using a lecture from the University of Tea Party, who is going to recognize the credits? I could go to them and they could charge me whatever they want just for the credits. If I use that same lecture and approach the University of Hope and Change for credit, do they have the right to give me credit? And what is stopping them from charging me the same if not more? Again, there are two purchases being made: One for the information and one for it to go towards a certificate or degree. I love the idea but there is a lot of work to be done because this would make a lot of people poorer. I am all for dusting off the cobwebs of our public higher education and there is a lot of work to be done for it to come to fruition.
Not at all, butI do find a bit rude to intentionally divert from the authors effort and I can appreciate that threads have a life of their own Mik. My intentio was making a sincere suggestion for you to take the opportunity to articulate your views. I suggested the vehicle as so often you seem to be just poking at the bears. If you actually have some well thought out positions they might make for a lively discussion on topics that you view differently than many.
At the college level, students have to learn on their own time. Lectures help convey information and the instructors objectives. If students are independent learner's, mass delivery of lecture content can be part of the curriculum. As a university professor, I'll have to innovate or find a new job. I've started preparing for this possibility by learning web and video software tools so that I can produce these mass delivered lectures. The Adobe learning suite is making this easier each year.
However, I don't see this happening very soon as most students today don't leave high school as independent learners. College students who were home-schooled, however, are usually better independent learners. Couple home-schooling with distance education, mass marketed lectures, and you have an inexpensive route to a college degree. Free curriculum and learning resources to aid home-school teachers is beginning to appear as well.
I think this could work for most Bachelors, and some masters level courses. PHD, Law, Dr's requires as much training and cooperation between peers as raw knowledge.
Standardized Testing. We already do this K-12 so why not 13-16?
Packaging. The material could be authored and then a training team could package properly, the author gets a royalty, should make the professors happy.
Testing. Basic knowledge finals would have to be done physically, too much cheating otherwise.
Tutoring. Self grouping or as a business.
The really great thing about this system is it would reward knowledge without regard to where the knowledge came from, no more ivy league gap for Bachelor's degrees, you know the material or you don’t'
Quite honestly for a masters degree I think you could offer apprenticeships vs. book work only, for most occupations real world experience trumps 2 more years of learning, do 50/50 book/work because after all the ultimate grade is if you succeed or fail in the real world.
Wow, you would think the left would like this but I suspect NOT, since indoctrination time would suffer, control would be minimized etc.
oh yeah…..then why comment? If it was that uninteresting a person of intelligence would not have even commented and …..ooopps……!!
I guess I have my answer….
I could be wrong but do seem to remember there is some sort of this already in progress. About 18 to 24 months ago I perused the sight and found many Literature and some Technical Engineering types of offerings. I can not remember it for my life right now. I just did a quick search in Yahoo for "free online college courses" and found a lot of links to some of the top Universities in the world including MIT, UofC Irvine & Berkley as well as Stanford and Tufts. OpenCourseWare initiative seems to be the common platform.
Who said there's wasn't? And the fact still stands.
You have nothing but your right wing anger.
it isn't a drilling rig that's leaking, it's a ship. since we don't drill on our territory, we have to bring oil in by ship from other countries. see the problem?
I just can't take this guy seriously. He'll get over my rudeness.
fewer brick-and-mortar colleges means fewer Federal dollars being dumped into useless colleges. that money can then be used for something useful, like paying down the deficit.
No I think his point was that we (the people) are funding a lot of the schools who are providing sub-standard education at hyper inflated prices, worse is that accreditation is controlled by bureaucrats and that name recognition is worth as much if not more than the product (student ability)
Since we are paying for the schools to operate we should get the benefit of the materials. This is not so unusual, most government run programs that result in tangibles are public domain, education should be no different, if you don't like that then don't take public money.
The real question is does higher education exist for the benefit of the professors and educational employees or the student and society? America invests in education and we have a right to a high quality product at a reasonable cost.
It's not even a fact… it's a hypothetical. You can say all you want that if they drill on land it won't pollute the water. But they did pollute the water, so your hypothetical fact is meaningless.
you realize that Bill Nye is a big supporter of A.G.W., right? he thinks that denying that Global Warming is our fault is some sort of treason.
i'm just sayin'
you realize that Bill Nye is a big supporter of A.G.W., right? he thinks that denying that Global Warming is our fault is some sort of treason.
i'm just sayin'
No anger there mika….just fun!
And you have nothing but your old, tired, cliche sterotypes of conservatives and your "sky is falling" 60's retread hysteria about an oil spill. And you go there because something was written that upset you. You can't debate that so you deflect.
Time for a new plan mika.
Yes you can!!
MIT has over 1800 free college courses available online, and has been offering them( without credit and personal access to the professors) for a few years now:http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm... If the link doesn't work go to ocw.mit.edu and check it out. Good article. There is a lot of what you suggest already available from several top universities. What we need is more K-12 open source resources. It has not hurt MIT to make the free stuff available. Too many kids need force feeding for that to hurt business.
Wow! You need to get caught up:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-27/bp-tr...
I think it is great that you are taking action rather than sitting back. I love a professor who actually cares about their trade. I see this idea, in early stages as a tool to be used along with traditional university curriculum. The possibilities are broader with non-traditional students. I also think there is a lot to be said about everything a university offers outside of the classroom. College years are important because a person will never again in their lifetime have access to so much information, people, resources, time and learning environment all at once. Also, the leadership and social opportunities which are available cannot be replicated and very few other environments provide the opportunity to build an abundance of character equity which is necessary in the real world. I like the proposed idea to create competition but not to diminish educational institutions.
No, it's a fact.
If you receive tax dollars for your work then it is owned by the taxpayers – just like if you work for IBM and while doing your job you have an idea, it's owned by them.
Drilling in ANWR won’t cause an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. That’s fact.
Now that's the type of thinking we need in this great country! If the people pay for it then anything produced with those funds should be free to the people to use as they see fit! If a collage doesn't want their product open to the people, then don't take any public funds it's that simple.
Stroke out much?
Human ingenuity isn't anywhere near "a scarce resource" but the individual employment of such ingenuity is. One of the biggest lies we tell ourselves today is that only a "few" are gifted and the rest of us are just trying to fly towards the sun with waxen wings. Furthermore knowledge isn't simply paid for by mere pecuniary means which you seem to imply but also by the time and diligence involved in its procurement.
Sigh.
The proposal as I read it was that we could eliminate thousands of dead weight academics and raise up those that outshine the rest for the purposes of lecturing, etc. If anything this would create a system of competition to reach those top spots rather than the current system of "well, I'm in this for tenure and after that you can go screw".
I say good deal. Open up education, remove all hindrances from the quest of knowledge save those of time and perseverance and see what happens.
Great comment. I agree if they accept the government money.
So k-12 should continue to be free…but as far as I know the universities don't get nearly the amount the k-12 gets. They rely on research grants from govt and private enities, fundraising and of course tutition.
I do.I'm just referring to the style or the production,generally making education less boring.
Hi Dave – I responsed to your other post before reading this one. As I mentioned I don't believe the univerisities are funded like the k-12. K-12 gets A LOT of money and should be kept free….
But univerisities rely on fundraisers, research and student tutition, the higher the grade level the less government money. The control the government really exerts on Universities is on the grants such as the pell grant and research grants – if they want the money the research has to be what they want. If the school agrees to pell grants then they have to jump through government hoops.
Teaching is mostly something the professors have to do when they would rather be working on their research projects.
ok. Say we publicize the teachings/lectures online… This will likely lead to less professors/universities/colleges, right? Maybe a few professors will take up the job of updating the online data when errors are found or new information is required. Everyone will be taught the same information, with some variation based on the presenter. You've now standardized the education and leveled the field.
Even if the lectures aren't free, they could be royalty based. Which I think is better. For a small fee (which includes a royalty to the presenter) people can listen to any lecture series and rate the series. A rating and royalty will incentivize presenters to incorporate quality and reduce marxism.
The next step is grading and tests. Online universities/colleges will develope their own tests and requirements… some easier, some more difficult. This is where people will fraud the system… Some will become pay for grade based.
nice try sunshine, but as usual there is no talking to a liberal.
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This may work for some of the basic level classes where students sit in a lecture hall with hundreds of other students. It won't work past the first year of college. More is learned through classroom discussion at this level. It's bad enough that our kids spend hours everyday in front of a television when they leave school. Do you really want them spending even more time in front of a screen?
I've always found that people who are easily bored are boring people. You have done nothing to change that opinion.
I agree with you, Ralph. I do hope nebadon didn't pay too much for his/her education – writing is atrocious!
Another vote here for BIG Education!
I appreciate the sarcasm (you are of course kidding when you say "For the rabid capitalist, it is crucial to recognize that property rights emerge from the scarcity of the atomic. " right?). "The information wants to be free" crap is just that – crap.
But there has to be a free market way of bringing college costs down. Here is one idea: Get a company like University of Phoenix to scrap the educational format and actually teach young people real-world applicable knowledge to young people and teach them to APPLY what they learn in the real world.
In other words, make the education valuable to employers. This will make cheaper schools like Phoenix competitive with the Ivy League U's. So when a company recruiter can pick from an Ivy League graduate (that has to earn more just to pay back the exorbitant education costs) and a graduate from a "real-world education" online college, he/she will pick the latter,
The may not get as much i.e. totally funded through government grants, student loans/grants, tax breaks etc. but those funds should cover the basic classes needed for a BS degree when the total amount is spread across the board.
See below, also I disagree that the higher the class level the less money is received; maybe in the classroom but, not to the collage when the grants are put into the equation as a vast amount of that is done at the higher levels.
Interesting site, thank you. Sent the link to the grands!
Online or interactive Pay-per-view. The only reason to have large universities anymore is for NCAA sports. It's a multi-billion dollar business that won't go down easy. I happen to like college football. I think some of that money made by the universities from sports should go back to the taxpayers.
Gee tanks fer da compliment there Cardilover,………..but I ain't no Chakespier either.
Well then we have an issue we can agree on.
Can't agree or disagree. I don't know for sure where their salary comes from.
I am in the process of trying to figure it out. I have Florida data that I am getting ready to put into graphs (Will send you a link).
I am really interested in finding out where all the ed money goes. There is A LOT of money going to education; especially k-12.
My daughter tried it for a semester (Masters) and said she is going back to tradition,…….
says she misses the classroom aspect of learning,…………….
She's paying for it,. so,……………. go for it Olivia (daughter)
I love your ideas for improving government via technology!
How about using an old school method of improving government accountability and that is using real accounting methodology to track government spending.
Along the same line government should be required to do audits anually to ensure that the people’s money is being properly spent.
The way my Fighting Irish have been playing lately,………………
the computer can eliminate the NCAA and it would be OK by me…………..
good point though,.there Jeff.
I remember the old adage that learning begins when you leave school. A catch phrase in academia currently is life-long learning. I think that many traditional universities are trying to create/capture interested learners in the work force for continuing education or the love of learning.
It'll cut the number of teachers by 99%, easily.
"Why, in a copyable economy like public education, doesn’t every child deserve the lessons of the world’s premiere teacher in every subject?"
He makes a good argument. PUBLIC education resources are just that — for the good of the public at large. One could argue that, say, lectures delivered in a public university are rightly public domain, no?
O hell, I volunteer. Making videos for English Lit 101 would be fun. The only problem I see with this idea is that it should be expanded. For 2-3 years now, I have been looking at the mind-exploding cost of public education in the U.S. — something like $13,000 per year per student — and have dreamed of starting up a chain of "MacSchools" which charge a mere $3,000 per year, and do ACADEMICS ONLY. Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic, plus History and Economics. Of course, you would have to recruit Real Teachers to do this job, not the useless drones currently pulling paychecks as Union Idiots, and teaching worthless crap like "self-esteem."
Self-esteem comes when you get an A and deserve it.
I think that YOU are living in a fantasy land, nebadon. My Dad, who was a successful veterinarian and died a multi-millionaire, always said, "the most important thing in choosing your college is the library. Once you have access to that, you've got everything."
Schmoozing with other college students frankly strikes me as a way to remain stupid, and do career-limiting things like not starting your sentences with capital letters. Oh, and "Your expecting people." Hard to believe you could commit such an obvious blunder. But then again, you wrote "this is the big fail in your plan i hate to say."
Have you ever considered going BACK to college? Maybe you could put the ganja down, man, and try something exciting, like reading Shakespeare or Ludwig von Mises.
Well, YOU need to go back and re-read Thomas Sowell, and realize that competition is a fact of life. To me, you sound like someone TERRIFIED that other people would simply give knowledge away, for free.
You Sophist, me Socrates!
And you totally ignore the absurd idea that some people might take these courses simply because they want to learn. And some other stupid people might offer these courses simply because they want to teach.
It's all about MONEY and CERTIFICATES to you.
Have to disagree with this one. I can't even imagine being able to learn this way. To me it's like music- I will only pay for music that I absolutely love; however, I can go to a concert and enjoy just about any kind of music. Why is that? The experience that comes along with it.
Dude. Take a chill pill. I simply posted an observation. If you want to point out something you feel I left out or you feel is wrong, fine. No need to take offense, call people 'stupid'…
This is a great idea! I'm an engineer that's still paying for my education; and my professors were just about as bad as you can have. I had a professor that told me it was my problem that his handwriting was illegible. I would have given more money to actually learn something more practical than how to derive energy equations (which were figured out years ago, and that serves no actual purpose in most professional engineering jobs because it's already been figured out. You look it up and move on with your life). Engineers are paid to solve problems, not reinvent the wheel. If I'd been able to afford tuition at an out-of-state school, maybe my experience would have been different.
Tests are given on a 100 pt scale, and the average grade is a 27 on every test. And students wind up with an A?? This has happened to me. To me, this says that either the teacher didn't teach it well enough or they don't know their material good enough to convey what's on the test (and apparently I'm not the only one; average grade of 27, people!!!). To the teacher, it shows that they're an awesome teacher or that their knowledge is superior to those they teach. As absurd as it sounds, I've been there! Oh, to have had this choice!
Most of my learning was the result of answering all the questions at the end of the chapter (not just the assigned ones), and studying the chapters that were not assigned. And taking out other text books and studying them and answering the questions for each chapter as well. The assigned reading helped, but the professors did not assign much, I had to search out useful books on my own. (Come to think of it, the prof's would probably have recommended some titles, but most of them took off at a run after the lecture.)
Most of the other students did not study and were a total waste of time as far as learning anything was concerned. Worse than a waste of time, most of them, as they tried to keep others from studying as a way to justify their own lazyness. Not surprising, as most were there either to be babysat or to get away from their kids.
hay mike, looks like nature beat us to this oil spill problem,http://www.npagroup.com/oilandmineral/offshore/oi... nature also provided the solution our less massive, but highly localized oil spill problem,http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/200...
drill baby drill,
if spilled on water?
contain, separate, and treat.
He is also effective.
So is Sesami Street, etc.
The people who only learned while in class drove me nuts. The ones who never even read the chapter were so obvious and the questions? Oh, man. What a pain.
When I got out of HS had to go to work and into the Army (draft).
Did not start college till I was 25,……………and I still enjoyed the relationship with my fellow students (7 years my junior).
You paint a grim picture and am saddened by your accounting,…….things are what you make of them,………
Hell Phil, I even felt positive about my tour of duty, monsoon seasons and all.
Not sure what you are saying…. your first link didn't work. Our best ally right now is the currents are carrying the spill away from the gulf coast. That will change in a few days.
Looking forward to the data, thank you in advance!
seems mike is unaware that nature beat us to this spill problem billions of years ago. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12178156832810902...
fortunately, nature also provided the solution to mans arguably less massive, but highly localized spillage problem. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/200...
drill baby drill
if
spill baby spill?
then contain, pump, and treat
seems mike is unaware that nature beat us to this spill problem billions of years ago. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12178156832810902...
fortunately, nature also provided the solution to mans arguably less massive, but highly localized spillage problem. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/200...
drill baby drill
if
spill baby spill?
then contain, pump, and treat
Oh for crying out loud. It's another liberal troll, people. Nothing to see here. Move along…
I love it. This trend has already begun with companies like the Teaching Company. The biggest roadblock to full adoption — believe it or not — is affirmative action. Prior to affirmative action, companies had their own hiring tests to screen candidates. After affirmative action, companies could no longer do that for fear of being judged discriminatory. That's why many companies now require a college degree — they let universities do the discrimination for them at high cost to the parents.
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