Think Progress: ‘Let’s Not Pay Back China’
by Morgan WarstlerIf there’s anything that should convince China to become more capitalist, and put less faith in socialism, it is American progressives.

Yesterday Matthew Yglesias’ head shook violently and he barked out like Paul Krugman with Tourette’s :
…you could start musing allowed about how many we just won’t pay the Chinese the money we owe them. Or you could reflect on the fact that if the People Bank of China is determined to buy bonds and prevent the dollar from falling at all costs, then we may as well totally forget about the short-term deficit and just not collect any taxes at all for the rest of FY 2010.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe this marks the first time in modern history a liberal has suggested we stop collecting taxes.
Welcome to the naked liberal mind. Technically, it shouldn’t shock us, Matt is just riffing off the subtext of Paul Krugman’s prescription for what ails us – massive inflation. Liberal economics springs forth from this assumption: We just keep printing money to payoff Dem voters until our debts aren’t so big any more.
This is not economics, this is an agenda.
In December, progressive economists were arguing for a “target” of 3% inflation. If they’ll say 3% now, they’ll say 5%, and then 7% soon after. Because when the mask is ripped off, it is really Chavez under there. To wit, it is February and Obama’s serious economists are screaming that Chinese peasants have too much money saved. Those ungrateful job stealing bastards simply refuse to let us devalue their savings – they keep buying our bonds with their ill-gotten gains.
This is legendary social planning economist Steven Cohen story boarding the last decades of the International economy:
As other nations began to develop, moving from agriculture to industry, they needed someone to buy their end products. Peasants in developing countries have little purchasing power, so the United States stepped in and bought “stuff” from all over the world, said Cohen. “We got the government out of the economy” and bought half of China’s GDP. “We imported so much more than we exported that now we cannot pay it off.”
In this cretin’s world view, little yellow foreigners can’t afford the Nikes and iPods they’ve been stupidly making, so to pull them out of the dirt we bought a bunch of stuff we didn’t need or want. And now that they’ve amassed a small fortune of $2 Trillion of our bonds, we shouldn’t feel bad about making it worthless. He goes on:
Ninety-eight percent of economists think a weaker dollar will help the economy, but it is a difficult sentiment to express without being seen as treasonous
The idea is perfectly true if the only economists you know are treasonous and none of them live in China. Here are the editors of The People’s Daily Online:
By January 2010, RMB had appreciated by 21.2 percent against the U.S. dollar and 4.6 percent against the euro, compared to July 21, 2005 when the RMB exchange rate formation mechanism reform was adopted.
(I urge you to read the whole article to get the Chinese perspective on the current state of affairs.)
At least one lefty economist is wiling to admit that we at least wanted to buy those Chinese goods. Here’s Brad DeLong explaining why:
Seventy percent of our current debt happened since 2000. Rising income inequality created a negative cultural pattern where people “overleveraged” themselves to financially compete with one another,
To DeLong the culprit isn’t easy credit brought about by a crappy government monetary policy;the problem is all of us stupidly wanting new Nikes and iPods in the first place. This is a re-occurring theme with liberal economists: people all make stupid decisions, and we need these market intrusions to aid them.
But what of Krugman? In my darkest heart, I suspect, The Conscience of the Liberal really doesn’t care about high unemployment numbers any more than he cares about inflation… I think he just cares about his Nobel Prize.
I think in 2009, Krugman had his little poodle jaws locked on covering 30M uninsured, and there was literally NO economic news that would make him say, “well we can’t afford health care.” Canada could have presented itself in moral surrender and ask to become a state. And Krugman would have insist we adopt their health insurance system to make them feel welcome.
But now, as the people have wised up in 2010, his policy prescription has changed… he still wants to print money, and he says he wants to do it subsidizing jobs.
And in my next post, I’m going to argue Republicans should take him up on the second part of that offer.






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If what we have now is capitalism then let's abandon it. We need to raise tariffs and employ people in this country. We need to produce. The capitalists (rich elites, bankers and the like) have exported our jobs for the bottom line which just results in a race to the bottom. We need nationalism.
Ummm,
Goose step much?
It is government regulation and unions that drive jobs overseas, not capitalism.
yeah, that's the ticket. Stiff the Chinese…
You think they aren't concerned about it? They know what we are doing now- monitizing our debt- is what the Weimar Republic did after the Progressives nailed Germany with reparations that would have kept their nation in indentured servitude for a century.
Paid everyone back in worthless script.
This is how you spend 13 trillion dollars you don't have. borrow it and pay it back with funny money. The Chinese aren't stupid. That's why they are sitting on our debt and buying up everybodies natural resources. Soon they will be the dominant player in that market.
And guess how much we'll have to pay for it then?
Almost. It's government over-regulation, unions and crony-capitalism that drive jobs overseas.
Real free market capitalism works every time, as is evidenced by the US's progression from its inception to 1860.
I love how well educated liberals/progressives understand the difference between "allowed" and "aloud" …
I guess that now, Obama thinks HE is the smartest man on the planet!! Are you kidding me??!! He really does think that the entire WORLD owes him…something??!! Wonder how he would feel if WE just decided NOT TO PAY OUR TAXES!!??
What!? You mean the Dali Bama is not going to "save" us with pretty talk? Say it isn't so.
Sounds an awful lot like http://www.defundanddisobey.com
low labor costs are what capitalism is all about, the soverign consumer benefits from low labor costs. As Mises said "when the consumer wins this is capitalism"
Wrong again dave. It is unfair trade practice and unrestricted trade that drives jobs overseas. You can call it the Reagan/Clinton plan.
Pretty big talk… why don't you just do it? Let's see how bold you really are.
I'll write to you in prison.
This line of thought is intriguing to me. By "Nationalism", do you mean Isolationism, or do you mean global domination? Personally, somewhere deep down in my gut, I have to admit to a sentiment of "Screw the Chinese. What are they going to do if we decide to default?". If they Nuke us, the real estate becomes worthless. They could never win a conventional war against us. We would Nuke their Homeland in retaliation and also Nuke their transport ships. Any way it goes down, everybody loses.
It becomes a matter of honor. Does "saving face" mean sucking Chinese a$$? If it does, I'm not sure I want any part of it. this deserves some serious consideration.
Then we can all do what most public employees do. Work just hard enough not to get fired.
I think I prefer the system we have. Especially if we can keep politicians from sucking money out of it.
This is the stupidest thread yet. Morgan whoever here is quoting some other blogger like his thoughts have any impact on government policy decisions. What a little dork… only possible on a right wing blog.
Protectionism isn't a cure. We need less interference from government, not more.
The truth you don't want to hear is that so long as we have a higher standard of living the jobs will go overseas. Still lower cost to pay somone who lives on a dirt floor than someone who lives in the suburbs here. Guess when that changes. When your lifestyle gets averaged with a billion people living on dirt floors. That is what "free trade" is all about.
I would think that maybe more people would have caught on to this – especially since every globalist in the world LOVES "free trade." You can't rule uppity White Americans who have free time on their hands to question government. Then envision a world of terrified serfs like the old days. And the best way to do that is with "free trade." It has many advantages to them because it is also the justification for all sorts of things like global government to REGULATE this "free trade" (you weren't actually fooled by the "free" in "free trade" were you?
The People Republic of China too… how does a leftist forget "People's"
Our country has been pawned.
dhasselhoff … you blindly follow Michael Moore who is a dis-information agent.
We'll have to revert to Isolationism for enough generations until we are ready and able to re-assert ourselves as the world's greatest super-power. That is assuming we don't want to do it right now.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A GAME?
We are still going to flatten you lefty. You are OVER confident. That is a weakness. From now on, we will NEVER let you rest. I promise. I hope it makes you really angry too!
Yes. I think it's a medical condition. Perhaps they should consult a "corpse-man". I'm sure Barry could recommend one! LOL!
i understand "free trade" to mean no govt. intervention in trade and i support this. When you start protecting jobs thru govt. intervention the people who are hurt are the consumers who have to pay a higher price for their goods or services.
wiat a minute, are you advocating not paying back your legal debts, thats a crime
Sue me. lol!
how about a nice game of chess?…
Over Regulation which opens the door to unrestrained ambulance chasing lawyers. who wants to spend time and resources in nefarious lawsuits?
Your math is wrong. It's 5.5 billion people living and eating dirt we're competing against. I never thought I'd agree with you about anything…but there it is. We're up against it. The world has finally noticed the 600 pound gorilla in the room …and it's us! They ALL want a piece of the pie now. The question is: Will we be a bunch of nerds and hand over our lunch money? Or will we do what Americans have always done and kick the bullies asses? The choice is…Barrack Hussein Obama's. Thanks, America!
There was a plan all along by the elitists who own all the central banks around the world and the federal reserve here in the USA. In there plan they put president Nixon up to working out a deal with China so that the elitists and the us dollar and china could secretly divide and conquer the world financially. And there are always stories in the media that have intent to scare and confuse, and to throw us off as to what is really going on.
That doesn't sound very exciting (or traumatic) at all.
LET'S PLAY GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR DOMINATION. PLEASE ENTER TARGET PARAMETERS NOW.
corruption son…it's called corruption not capitalism.
The rape of the GSE's…you call that capitalism. Well whose fingerprints are on it?
We need to collect on our outstanding loans to the third world countries and pay back china with that money.. oh wait we don't LOAN taxpayers money to the disadvantaged nations… We only do that to US corporations.. we GIVE that money away.
"But what of Krugman? In my darkest heart, I suspect, The Conscience of the Liberal really doesn’t care about high unemployment numbers any more than he cares about inflation… I think he just cares about his Nobel Prize."
Yes. Thank you. I avoid Krug's crap as much as possible but he writes like a man who is desperate to keep his job. And working for a company that is desperate to be relevant. And a company in an industry that is desperate for revenue.
Toxic cocktail. Don't quit your day job Paul. Oh wait. That's the point.
What we have is not capitalism, Ayn Rand style; we have a crony capitalism, zombie capitalism, corporate state, resembling nothing so much as the fascist order. That's why you see bailouts of failing companies, governmental taking over industry, and the growing governmental employment. That is NOT capitalism.
Got that crap out of your union newslwetter, did you?
Being a liberal means never having to understand basic economics.
If the USA does not go a little isolationist for a while and create jobs here, it will split up into 5 or 6 countries.I hope my prediction here is wrong, but I just don't see how the US can pay anything off to anyone.So in a way the whole country will just go bankrupt and scrap itself and tell its debtors,"Too bad, we tried."
Thanks to Hamilton it happened as soon as it was formed…
The article didn't mention what happens if we DON'T pay China back. Off the top of my head, I'd say it would hurt our credit standing and start a trade war, but what else?
Anyone with a good deal of economics savvy, please weigh in!
America was sold out by the Democrats long ago
It worked in Russia when the state realized they could not bust in 300 million doors to get their tax money.And to top it off it got the taxpayers a flat rate tax…
Matthew is borderline illiterate.
"……you could start musing allowed about how many we just won’t pay the Chinese the money we owe them."
Let's fix that, shall we?
"…you could start musing aloud about how maybe we just won't pay the Chinese the money we owe them."
How can anybody take this ignorant goofball seriously?
"Every American WILL have a home!"
Sorry dude, our cost per manhour per productivity still makes us less expensive when you get rid of the stupid regs and ambulance chasers THAT NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS TO CONTEND WITH!
I've been waiting 12 years for my "free" car…said a serf in isolationist Communist Soviet Union.Unfortunately, I think we are closer to a worldwide international business ran fascism.Hope I'm wrong…
It becomes a matter of honor. Does "saving face" mean sucking Chinese a$$?
They have been using our own money to build a military to defeat us. Helped by Clinton who advanced there computer technology 30 years for a bag of cash. Our politicians sucked Chicom behind for years so they could buy there cheap goods that kept inflation down so they could claim credit for a good economy. Now the same political aholes that caused all the damage are riding off to the sunset with fat pensions flipping us off and laughing.
As well as the Republicans, because both sides have been bought by the banking elites.
where is Dr Falken when you really need him, eh?…
The first thing China would do would be to take over Taiwan. The Chinese don't like to lose face.
If we defaulted on our international debts, it would be a lot harder to get imports from most of the world. We'll probably have to pay for them with gold. Ft. Knox does have a lot of gold. However, there will be a few very hard years until the system stabilizes.
Most of the world's elites have significant amounts of dollars stashed away for a rainy day. They'll hate us for making them lose their investment. Probably we'll see an increase in anti-US rhetoric, and possibly actions. More terrorist attacks. A lot of unrest in places that are already not very stable. More civil wars.
China got this debt, at least partially, to have something to use against the militarily superior, and therefore threatening, US. If they couldn't have that, they might redeploy their factories for military production. This would increase the risk of a Chinese war against Taiwan, and eventually against the US. The US is likely to win such a war, but at the price of several nuked cities.
Maybe I just don’t understand economics, but I think that if the People’s Bank of China is buying bonds for the purpose of preventing the dollar from falling then there is a problem! Here is the way I see it (I’ll just use the yen and dollar). With an exchange rate of $1=100¥, let’s say a product costs $0.80 to produce in the U.S. and sells for $1. In Japan the product costs 80¥ to make and sells for 100¥. Neither product has a market advantage. Now let’s say U.S. economy crashes (hypothetically) and the dollar weakens to $1=50¥. The U.S. product sells for 50¥ in Japan compared to 100¥ for the Japanese product, and the U.S. product sells for $1 in the U.S. compared to $2 for the Japanese product. U.S. product sales increase, U.S. economy recovers, and the balance comes back to $1=100¥. China’s actions of not allowing the dollar to drop will prevent this correction from occurring. A true free market will always balance itself, but intervention such as this is not good.
Hey, if it's good enough for Charlie Rangel and Tim "Tax Cheat" Geithner, it's good enough for Americans!!
Wonderful idea……the Chinese have been stiffing everybody for years now…….They still owe us for liberating their pathetic as.ses from the japanese……..They owe us blood and money…..ef em……..Half their country has no electricity or clean water…….the desert will bury Peking in thirty years…….
Agreed. I would think non-payment of debts is the stuff that wars are made of.
…you could start musing allowed about how many we just won’t pay the Chinese the money we owe them.
What more proof do we need that we're dealing with ignorant children and adults with arrested development?
Gee, that's a great way to restore confidence in the American dollar!
Don't pay people back, and I'm sure other countries will be running to do business with us and invest in our currency.
Dear einy,
You're right! I can't imagine where that 98% number came
from! Almost ALL ECONOMISTS HATE INFLATION!
Want to see an economist break out in a cold sweat?
Sneak up behind them and say the word
" Inflation ".
Honestly, economists virtually all agree on sound
monetary and fiscal policy.
Kindest Regards to all,
I am,
John Lepant
Brighton
Colorado
mikatollah has such arrogance and self confidence in his leftist beliefs that I find amazing, considering he was a fighter pilot…..just like Murtha was a Marine. Where do these guys go astray and join the Ayers and Soros's of the world???? How do these supposed "patriotic" men join the enemy? I thought once you pledged your allegience to the Constitution, NOTHING else mattered. It's very depressing to know that the "OATH" means nothing to them.
They would rather join the " crotch saluter" than patriost who hold our Flag as the ultimate symbol of greatness. They would rather join the "commies" in trying to bring this great country to her knees because of some sort of misguided, Alynsky philosphy.
For SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mikatollah. For shame. What happened to you?
Gentle Readers,
Here's the real trouble: Our Chinese friends have a trade deficit with every single country in the world, except for the United States! They sell goods here, get dollars, and use the dollars to purchase imports: oil, food, materials,
technology, etc.
Some people say they also use trade strategically to support their foreign policy. Easy to do if you're bringing
in money to buy things.
This has created a global trade imbalance. The USA runs a huge trade deficit with China, then China runs a deficit with Russia, Japan, Europe, Africa, OPEC countries, etc.
China hoards dollars because they want to be able to purchase commodities they import and they seek long
term contracts: 20 years for oil imports, as an example. To assure these long term contracts, they keep large
dollar reserves.
So whats the solution? Beats me, but that where things stand at this moment.
Kindest Regards to all,
I am,
John Lepant
Brighton
Colorado
try wal mart and 500% profit, thats who drove all the jobs over seas. talk to the company workers that lost jobs as NAFTA turned into wal mart / china.yes the gov. regs. and unions added to the cost of products but you got quality products and crap that did not kill your kids. look at wal marts fruit and veggies. all mexico, did you know mexico uses DDT. the government you talk about was bill clinton, he sold AMERICA to china. wal mart jumped in bed with china selling small businesses to china. WHAT if china said pay up today or we stop exporting. in one month we would be out of everything. just think about it YOUR KIDS BASEBALL IS MADE IN china.
Well, in that case, there's nothing left to do but play the hand we're holding. sounds like war to me!
Good luck with that. The smart money is with the 5.5 billion.
What do you have in mind Dhasselhoff — a gentler kinder kind of Communism? Communism is responsible for more deaths and human suffering than all the other “isms” combined.
I was hoping I wasn't the only one who noticed.
Did you consider inserting (sic) into the original, then get tired just thinking about it?
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
The Chinese are already nervous about all the US debt they hold. This kind of talk will make them more uneasy, and cause interest rates to rise.
My weakness is that I care too much. I'm a giver…
I wish there was somebody on this list who could discuss economics, but it's too much to ask. The problem is no one here ever went to college, so the first exposure you get to the subject is on right wing blogs and you just don't have the background to ask the right questions. Even google is some kind of liberal plot to you people.
Try and stay focused. We live in the United States… not Russia.
Funny how you call it "low labor costs" and not "low wages." What do you think is the overall health of this nation if everyone was paid low wages? Lower standard of living.
Spend a lot of your day on left wing blogs do you? I didn't think so…
The war thing may be a viable option, since a Chinese take over of world domination is a less attractive one..
However, since nobody here wants either. let us pay this debt back…
But on a time table that is to is to our advantage.
I never went to college, did I?
It's kind of pathetic the fictions liberals tell themselves just to
maintain their childish self-delusion of superiority.
First off, Reagan never indulged in unrestricted trade.What exactly do you describe as 'unfair trade practice', this is a phrase that's not used in classic economic studies, being a liberal construct as an excuse to, indeed, drive trade overseas, to rectify perceived 'wrongs' to 3rd world nations, largely.As far as NAFTA/WTO Clinton is the one who passed all of these atrocious affronts.WTO replaced GATT, which was instituted in 1947 and had a narrow focus of reducing tariffs on manufactured goods.Clinton passed the WTO agreement in 1995, which put much more power over our exporting economy into the hands of an international body which isn't answerable to our Constitution or our own Business Law.Our problems right now do relate to the obnoxious idea that "Keynesian Economics", i.e.-spending our way out of a recession, is going to work. The biggest experiment of this kind failed horribly-The GReat Depression. This is, indeed, 'Facist Economics'.You shouldn't put people down about economics, your own understanding is lacking, I sense you went to college a long time ago, perhaps you're rusty. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Let's just say that so far, I'm unimpressed.
Bottom line~ The U.S. has the highest production rate per hour coupled with the highest quality rate per piece of manufactured goods. This in spite of the fact that organized unions have allowed/bred the idea of working just enough to keep your job. Reagan should have finished the job of busting unions. Agreed, at one time unions held an important place in American manufacturing, those days are long past. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
It must have been 10 liberal economists in a room, 9.8 of them wanted to embrace a weaker dollar in order to 'level the playing field', the ultimate result being to reduce the U.S. to 3rd world nation status.
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Where is Andrew Jackson when you need him? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Progressives want other countries to be ALLOWED to plunder our wealth, and they state this ALOUD.
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Yeah, too many damned progressives in the U.S., including our 'progressive ' income tax.
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BHO isn't even the smartest person in his own head. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
China is economic sanctions away from a civil war. If we disrupt trade with them it would throw millions of Chinese out of factory work with nothing else to do but question their government.
If it really bothers you that much, why stay? I don't get it, mika. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Actually, this is exactly what happened. The US, ever since the beginning of "free trade", built a system whereby we would lift the entire world with our wealth, and at the same time crush the American worker with low wages. Free trade has completely run the United States right into the ground.
I've spent plenty of time on lefty blogs, I've got accounts on HuffHo and rumproast. The posters on those sites are the rudest, most ill informed dregs of society you'll ever come across. Why do you judge others so harshly, you don't even know them. It seems you'd be more at home on the lefty blog sites. Why waste your time here? Have you ever been to a lefty blog site? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
I'm just a man of the people Hanzo. I stay because there is work to be completed here.
Do you guys remember back 10 or 15 yrs ago when WalMart advertised how many of their products
were made in the US. They even had tiny little US flags on merchandise. For years I wouldn't buy any-
thing made in China, I read the labels on everything, if it was made in China I left it in the store. The
last 3 or 4 yrs I can't find anything that doesn't come from China. I was in a store & came across some
polished rocks, they were made for floral arrangements, but I wanted them for my shower floor, cost
about .99 / 1lb bag, they were from China. When did we get so hard up we can't polish our own rocks,
or were these rocks from the US that had been shipped to China, polished & shipped back? What is the
shipping cost of a 1 lb sack of rocks? How does this make any sense? How many 1 lb sacks of rocks
does it take to load one of those shipping containers? Who makes these decisions? I'm perplexed!
Um, call me crazy, but how about this? 1:Cut. The. Budget. 2:Cut .Spending. 3. Cut. Borrowing.
4.Cut. Congress: Maximum 2.5 days per week, at a max of 100 days per year. They pay for all travel, staff and supplies out of their own pocket. Sure they won't get anything done, but they'll do it for a lot less money.
No, Hamilton was overruled, by Washington and Jefferson, as well as others. Hamilton was a war hero and fought with great heroism and valor. However, he turned out to be a consumate politician. After losing the presidency to John Adams Hamilton sunk to the politics of personal destruction. Aaron Burr made sure Hamilton paid for his intransigence, mortally wounding Alexander Hamilton in a duel, in 1804. Hamilton was largely responsible for the formation of the first national bank, which has since morphed into the Federal Reserve(which I'm sure is what you're refering to). Andrew Jackson was the next president to return fiscal sanity to our economic landscape, banishing the central bank and ushering in a very prosperous time until the central bankers of the world almost sent us into a Depression.Andy Jackson never bent to their will, and under his presidency actually reduced our national debt to zero. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Love the avatar, Floyd. BTW, that's supposed to be PWN3D(with the capital letters and the #3), my 15 year old daughter pointed that out to me when I used it once.
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Huffington post will shut you down pretty fast for ad homs. You pretty much have to stay focused on the topic. As for them being rude, bloggers will be bloggers. It's the nature of the beast.
I agree Ori. However, there's probably not enough gold in Ft.Knox to cover our debt, as all countries would attempt to call in their outstanding bonds if we defaulted against China. At least we'd see who our true allies are, eh? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Well, ghost dosen't make a lot of sense, offering no proof. All we have to do to point out overwhelming democrat culpability is to point to FDR, facist to the core. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
I suppose about as seriously as we can take some goofball who pronounces corpsman as 'corpse-man', eh?
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Don't be so simplistic. China didn't buy American debt benevolently, it's economic warfare.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Ok jim, what about the rosie situation that will occur if they convert their purchased debt into euro's, to make it the currency of trade, as they bluster and threaten to do so frequently? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Riiight, tell that low wages thing to the AUW forlift driver who makes essentially $70/hr once bennies are taken into account.
My husband has a pivotal corporate job that has people from around the world seeking his opinion, but he doesn't make anything like that. I suppose I should be whining about his low wages?
Yes, they print away our debt and inflation skyrockets. The government and rich elites come out of it strong, but the populace of the nation is hosed.
No, not really. The rhetoric that China engages in on an almost daily basis, threatening to call in all of the American debt they own and attempting to make the euro the currency of choice for international trade,while having a worse and much farther reaching effect, wouldn't neccessarily make them uneasy. The Chinese indulge in economic warfare daily.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
Yes, their motto was, at first, 'Made in the U.S.' WalMart was actually sanctioned by the government because they were caught relabeling merchandise made in China as being made in the U.S. Now their creed is 'lower prices'. Astounding. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hanzo
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