ACORN Official: Gangster Group Will Be Bankrupt Soon But Fake Spinoff Groups Will Carry On The Corruption
by Matthew VadumThe ACORN crime syndicate is not going away anytime soon, but it’s going to look different.
ACORN will probably run out of money and fold by year’s end but a dozen ACORN state chapters reincorporated to seem like new, independent organizations will spring up in the next week to carry on ACORN’s business, a leaked email from ACORN’s online director suggests.
“The truth is that it is hard for us to forsee [sic] any scenario where ACORN continues beyond the end of 2010 and some of us think it might not last that long,” writes Nathan Henderson-James, director of ACORN’s online campaigns, in an apparently authentic Feb. 22 email.
“Last one to leave turn out the lights and wipe the server,” he writes at the end of the message.
In the email Henderson-James explains the subterfuge ACORN will use to lead Americans to believe ACORN is breaking apart.
“It is definitely true that over the next week or so we should see a dozen or more organizations launched on the state level by staff who used to work for ACORN and leaders who developed their skills as ACORN members. These are not just simple name changes, but reimaginings of how best to organize low and moderate income constitiuencies [sic] without any of the legal problems and funding issues dogging ACORN, not to mention the brand damage.”
It is a “tactically smart…reaction to the global situation that helps the work of building power for poor people to continue,” writes Henderson-James, an ACORN employee since 1997.
The Saul Alinsky-inspired public relations hocus-pocus described by Henderson-James is consistent with earlier reports that ACORN is trying to pass off various state chapters as “new” groups. ACORN’s ruse is designed to keep tax dollars and foundation grants flowing into its coffers. With the fallout from the hidden camera videos last fall, congressional funding of ACORN’s election fraud and racketeering business is no longer guaranteed, so ACORN developed a plan that would allow the operation to keep going, albeit on a smaller scale.
ACORN veteran Marcel Reid told me in an interview yesterday that she wasn’t buying into ACORN leadership’s spin. Reid is a whistleblower who was expelled from ACORN’s national board in 2008 for asking too many uncomfortable questions about a million-dollar embezzlement perpetrated in 2000 by the brother of ACORN’s founder and covered up by management for eight years.
“The folding of ACORN isn’t happening because it’s simply going to restructure,” she said. “In the meantime they’ll give all of these new community organizations in the states an opportunity to flourish without ACORN’s legal baggage.”
At least three of these dummy nonprofit corporations that Henderson-James describes have surfaced so far this year. They are Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment, New York Communities for Change, and New England United for Justice. All three groups operate out of ACORN offices. The president of New England United for Justice, Maude Hurd, just happens to be the 20-year national president of ACORN. (Massachusetts articles of incorporation available here)
The Henderson-James email to ACORN supporters also encourages recipients to help rewrite the history of the embattled group.
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“[T]here will be a fight over the narrative of ACORN’s demise,” he writes. The other side wants “a narrative about the corruption of popular organizations and how they are simply vehicles for the personal enrichment and power fantasies of their top staff members while pushing public policies that destroy middle America.”
This argument must be fought, Henderson-James argues, because it “gives people pushing a pro-corporate agenda a way to tar progressives and even non-progressive Democrats running for office with the ACORN brush.”
Then comes the whining from ACORN’s cyber-warfare chief.
Henderson-James acknowledges that ACORN made mistakes, but claims it was primarily a victim of dirty tricks perpetrated by the political right. “[W]e were all up against a 24-hour propoganda [sic] channel,” he writes, in an apparent reference to the Fox News Channel, one of the few media outlets to closely follow the ACORN saga.
Progressives didn’t fight back hard enough “in a moment of extreme duress, orchestrated by propogand [sic] videos,” he complains.
The movement “stood by as ACORN got gutted, while we also handed the forces of pro-corporate politics a handy club to kick the shit out of anything that vaugely [sic] sounds progressive. And that comes with a license to go after the next group or groups that embody the progressive agenda. This went beyond ACORN. We were just a convienent [sic] target to make into a bogeyman. This was about everything progressives stood for. And when it came time to stand up, most of us didn’t.”
Marcel Reid, who also heads a reform group called ACORN 8, told me ACORN’s setbacks are the fault of the left, not the right. Progressives should have come forward to help fix ACORN, but they didn’t.
“We stood up in the organization to straighten out its problems before they got to this point,” she said. “When they could have stood up to save it they sat down.”
“It’s the left’s fault because when it was time for them to police themselves they would not do it. The left didn’t stand up to purge itself when it could have. They can’t blame the right when they didn’t clean up their own house.”
In the email Henderson-James also complains that federal lawmakers and the mainstream media didn’t do enough to help ACORN, bemoaning “the breathtaking swiftness with which the Congress condemned us on the basis of what have been clearly shown by real journalists to be nothing but the purest propaganda [sic].”
Left-wingers, he writes, now have to promote a narrative “that says the attacks on ACORN were part of a concerted attempt to demobilize key progressive constituencies because they banded together to take power and threaten the status quo and that the legacy of ACORN deserves that regular people stand up for themselves and organize to take power, to pass public policies that create an America we all want to live in. One in which organizing is about average people making their lives and their communities and their workplaces better.”
This left-wing spin “will be contested for a bit and you can be sure that it will be marked by serious right-wing triumphalism,” he predicts. “Our side needs to make sure our narrative wins, using the kind of pushback that’s taken place recently around [undercover video maker James] O’Keefe.”
“That’s been beautiful,” Henderson-James coos.
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"“Last one to leave turn out the lights and wipe the server,” he writes at the end of the message."
We all must do our civic duty, be vigilant and work diligently to help ensure that the above line from the email comes to fruition as expeditiously as possible!
Anything to help our little ACORNs……….
I wonder if those soon to be closed ACORN offices would be big enough to start up a Starbucks style cafe? It could offer internet access and coffee at half the price with a conservative theme. Ooohhhh the irony…;)
Bio for Nathan Henderson-James:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/nathan-henderson-jame...
Interesting little video from Nathan Henderson-James:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAkRj6w-07Y&fe...
A little dated, but relevant.
The new groups are not going to get public $$$ – at least not right away. The national voter registration and get out the vote operations that was ACORN will shift to other venues. And there are plenty of well to do progressives to fund it. From the perspective of a person who has organized with working people since 1977 – I have to say that the right has won a victory. You have taken out a key piece of progressive infrastructure. ACORN was never the whole of the progressive left – but it was a key piece. It will take time to retrench, regroup and rebuild. But it will happen. The source of ACORN's power was its ability to organize the sentiments of poor people in inner city communities. Poor people have not suddenly changed their political perspective. That perspective will be organized and mobilized.
See you soon in the next stages of the battle.
The chief community organizer Barry won't let his baby slip into oblivian. To much important work left to be done…!
Using bankruptcy protection doesn’t absolve ACORN of criminality. But don’t look for Eric Holder to pursue the case – - ala. Black Panthers. Any politician, right or left that had anything to do with this corrupt organization needs to be punished at the polls.
Washington is a swamp that needs to be drained, fire’em all!
They have been found out!. The funding source is in jeopardy!. So these are new ways to continue to get federal funding, and avoid Congressional actions to stop funding Acorn. New way to hide from scrutiny.
How did Heracles kill the multi-headed Hydra? I kind of forgot.
That is the Greek spelling before anyone asks.
"the legacy of ACORN deserves that regular people stand up for themselves and organize to take power, to pass public policies that create an America we all want to live in. One in which organizing is about average people making their lives and their communities and their workplaces better.”
Nothing improves the community like a well organized brothel. Nothing improves lives like a little human trafficking. And nothing improves the workplace like a bunch of underage El Salvadorian girls.
Oh, but I almost forgot, all that was "clearly shown by real journalists to be nothing but the purest propaganda[sic].”
This is a classic case of incorporation fraud.
Just like a roofing contractor who keeps changing his company name in order to pocket deductions on work never performed. Unfortunately, there is no system in place to control the parallel incorporation of tax-exempt organizations.
I would propose a law which prohibits tax-exempt status for more than one organization by any single Social Security Number or numbers on the incorporation documents.
Let them incorporate, but prevent the tax exemption. This would stop the bulk of this sort of shenanigans, as long as it was combined with a means of verifying the participation of registered corporate individuals to prevent ghost participants.
Sorry, not "Deductions", I meant "Deposits on work never performed".
actually I'd like to get a hold of the server and do some forensics on it….never know what you might find….
So, like, if Henderson-Jones marries Smith-Barney do they have a bunch of little bed-wetters who have to live their lives as Jimmy and Janey Henderson-Jones-Smith-Barney?
So, over the next year…
1. VIDEO CAMERAS… EVERYWHERE
2. Micro-Recorders… EVERYWHERE (check with your state's statutes, there are several "single-party" states ~ for recordings being admissible in court).
3. LAWSUITS (on EVERY level, from local municipalities ~ to CLASS-ACTION, Nationally cooperative)… over and over AND OVER again ("overwhelm the system"… with TRUTH)
…and more and more CITIZEN-JOURNALISTS doing LAWFUL undercover investigations at every level of their operations.
FUN TIMES!
CM Sackett
Years ago something like this would have shocked me, but
when we get a president that comes out of their ranks, is a
lying sack of s*** that is caught in lie after lie…This seems
par for the course in our "Era of Enlightenment", anything goes!!
I wish we could turn this mindset around but it's going to take
a long time if ever….People that have their handouts don't give
a darn about who's passing the freebies out, as long as they
think its free, hence Obumble….When we have a Congress that
won't hold hearings on this criminal group, and a MSM that
ignores them, there's not much we can do but hope that Andrew
keeps an eye on them…..
Mac Daddy's ACORN is like herpes–very difficult to totally kill-off.
Good question! I was scratching my head wondering how the hell a guy winds up with a surname like that. Did he get married to his lover and want to keep his maiden name? What a phony piece of crap this guy is.
A friend of mine, yesterday, was saying that she thought that the Glenn Beck's and Breitbart's of this world should be suppressed. She even thought they should be imprisoned. I told her that I thought she was nuts. That free speech (and I would add, free organization) is our best defense as progressives. I agree with Saul Alinsky that "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." If the right-wingers keep saying nonsense that you just spouted, Cowboy Logic, I think I will be in business for a long time. Yes, the battle will be engaging. But I hope and pray that it will not be bloody. And your blood-lust just shows you to be a bomb-thrower.
There are serious people doing serious organizing and struggle. I would suggest that you become one of them. And then you could become a serious threat to someone like me.
I still think my far left friend is nuts. But, boy, Cowboy Logic, you certainly make it easy for someone like her to make that point.
I'd like to see his lighted turned out. Weasel!
Hopefully this hiding act ACORN is trying to do will also take away much of the clout they developed through the decades, at least on the national level. On the national level, they will be hurting without a single entity to flow through but at the state and local level they could still be a royal pain to everyone.
And we'll be seeing you. You can change your name, but you can't change who you are. A growing number of my fellow citizens now know what progressivism looks like, and we will be watching you. Game on!
The Hydra was very hard to kill because each time one of the serpent-like heads was hacked off, two new heads grew to replace it. Also, the blood of the Hydra was a deadly poison….I googled it…..:) I think each head was cauterized after it was chopped off, sounds like a plan to me!
In all seriousness, my hobby is getting under youse folks skin. It just takes a little bait, a word, a nuance, and you all run with it. Just like the word "bloody." Had a field day with it, didn't you.
If the right wingers keep spouting nonsense like i just spouted? I'll tell you something Bub, for a generation we sat quietly on the sidelines. We watched the lunch counter sit ins of the 60's, we watched the Jessie Jackson, Al Sharptons and Michael Moores with their shakedown tactics, and never said a word. We have sat quietly by,and watched, and listened and learned.
Now we will be quiet no more. WE will be as IN YOUR FACE as youse people ever thought of being. WE have had enough of your collective nonsense.
There. Now it's your turn.
Play the race card…………………
Well Cowboy, looks like you got a lecture….lol….He
has no idea what sarcasm is….He forgets, it's not
conservatives that go around beating up people, it's
the SEIU thugs and other radicals from the Left…
Maybe he puts on blinders to those truths…..
They can run, but they cannot hide…we have too many people out there watching their every move!
If he wants taken serious, the first step would be a formal ID.
Every moron on leave from the Daily Kos shows up here for a day or so.
And what exactly is your problem with progressivism? Is it the regulation of food and drug quality? How about the right to form a union at your workplace? Or it it the idea of a progressive income tax? Or maybe its the women's vote? Or how about "equal pay for equal work"? What exactly is your problem with progressivism?
By the way, I agree – "Game on!". And I think you could teach Cowboy Logic a thing or two about how to play the game.
We got their e-mail. Now let's bug their phones!
Nope, don't have to. Enjoy your hobby.
Don't gloat too much. These worms will be eating tax dollars in a different form before you can say "hope and change".
Nope. No blinders here. I think as this battle continues each of us will have the opportunity to try and restrain people on our own sides from doing very terrible and stupid things.
Everything you are for is directly against why this country was founded.
…hence my post above ("cameras, micro-recorders, lawsuits, etc.").
1. Keep the LIGHT on
2. Turn UP the WATTS
3. "Overwhelm the system" with TRUTH
Sackett
[...] Today there is a post on that upholder of Truth, Justice, and The American Way, Big Government, detailing ACORN’s plans to climb into the magician’s coffin, get sawn into little pieces, and then emerge better and [...]
Cowboy Logic, did you actually watch that video?
Your friend is not the only one who wants to jail dissenters. After all, some leftoids, notably Hansen, have been calling for "Nuremberg-style tribunals" to try climate skeptics. Always on the left: you'll never see conservatives playing the thoughtcrime card, the last refuge of collectivist scoundrels.
In related news, an imprisoned Cuban dissident died yesterday after a prolonged hunger strike.
Ultimately, "progressivism" necessarily devolves into fascism (red or black, your pick), because it is the philospophy of coercion and confiscation. When your lot gets power, those idealists such as yourself who believe in "free speech and free organization" will be the first victims of the Terror or the Purges.
My "lot" is in power right now. Where is the Terror? Where are the Purges? I can see your fear. But what I can't see is the evidence of what you are talking about.
Because "Progressivism" really is about the limitless expansion of the Borg-state at the expense of liberty. Because "Progressivism" believes that Good Intentions can trump the inexorable laws of economics. Because "Progresivism's" quest for Equality can only manifest itself by penalizing success, thrift and diligence and rewarding failure, profligacy and indolence.
Because "Progressivism" denies the most fundamental of all rights- the right to be left the hell alone.
California, Britain, Spain, Greece- just look down the line of dominoes at the fruits of "progressivism." Unless of course there's a slight left turn down the Chavez-Castro line.
If one really wants to get picky, it's Herakles or Herakleos.
Meanwhile, the more dangerous of the conjoined twins, the SEIU, continues its evil work unabated.
" See you soon in the next stages of the battle."
It's all about stages. History is the sreenplay.
Wiping the server just might be destroying evidence. Even if a court has not yet demanded it, it can still be illegal to destroy it given the legal stormclouds hanging over the organization. Legally, if you cannot produce materials that ought to still exist, it is presumed to be damaging to you. However, the odds of anyone ever going after these criminals is somewhere between slim and none.
Like a bad penny, they'll be back! And since we know they will be back, we'll be waiting for them. They'll be disrupted and outed just like the old ACORN was! Once again the American People prevail! Keep up the good work!
By the way, has anyone heard from John "there's nothing to investigate" Conyers on these developments?
I didn't think so.
[...] Go here to see the original: » ACORN Official: Gangster Group Will Be Bankrupt Soon But Fake … [...]
When, do you suppose, there will be any unbiased journalism on just how tight president jugears is tied into ACORN? I guess it is just wishful thinking that the AG office would actually investigate and prosecute any of these nimrods. And surely, I can't be in the minority thinking that groups like this should be tolerated or condoned.
Youse people are an infomnia.
"And what exactly is your problem with progressivism?"
Progressivism is the antithesis to Liberty. It requires submission to the State, and empowers the State over the individual. This is what the Founders wanted to protect against.
"How about the right to form a union at your workplace?"
I have no problem with that, so long as that State is not involved. Since you are speaking of rights, then the employer's right to tell the union to go pound sand shouldn't be interfered with by the State. Fair is fair…
"Or it it the idea of a progressive income tax?"
Yeah, it is the idea of a progressive income tax. Such a tax punishes achievement, and discourages further achievement. It subscribes to the premise that the State is entitled to a portion of a citizen's work and achievement. Again, this also goes against what the Founders intended.
"Or maybe its the women's vote?"
The ideas of Liberty make no distinctions between gender, race, or religion. Progressivism utilizes those distinctions to limit the rights of the citizenry under the guise of "fairness", but only serve to strengthen the State. Nice try with the "sex card" though.
"Or how about "equal pay for equal work"?"
Liberty, freedom, and a free marketplace will determine with a job is worth. It places no limits on what an individual can achieve, and does not place road blocks on an employee's ability to negotiate with the employer, or find another employer, or become an employer. The State seeks to limit the freedom of both the employer and the employee, in the name of "equality", through regulation and taxation. This ends up making everyone equally miserable.
Liberty. Tyranny. Choose one. I choose Liberty.
They were able to fire 3 teachers in two years !!!!! Yea , gotta love the UNIONS !!!!! This country is doomed !
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/24/education/24tea...
ACORNs, by any other name, are still just a bunch of nuts.
just as we americans fought communism and fascism we must fight acorn.
ACORN is gone because they trained their people to offer housing advice to anyone who walked in the door, and didn't instruct them "unless they are people pretending to be a pimp and a prostitute." I guess before they never thought such a ridiculous scenario would come up, because pimps and prostitutes aren't known for seeking housing advice. I hope the new organizations that rise from the ashes of this are aware that there may be conservatives coming to their offices pretending to be something ridiculous, and how to act accordingly.
Capitalism is the antithesis to Liberty, it requires submission to corporations.
You can go down your entire list and replace one with the other, word for word.
"A free marketplace will determine what a job is worth"
It will be great when a truly free marketplace exists. Unfortunately, back in the real world, it never will, because a market is the creation of inherently flawed humanity, not godlike intelligence.
These cockroaches just won't give up.
its only a matter of time for them also
In reading this discourse, me thinks our old friend mik changed his name but the patter of his words is still the same.
That was my first thought. The sentence structure, verbage and prattle are all the same. If you have noticed, "mik" has been noticably absent of late…….
Nope. Keep guessing.
Doesn't make any difference. Same progressive tiresome crap.
[...] the original post: » ACORN Official: Gangster Group Will Be Bankrupt Soon But Fake … Posted in Group | Tags: acorn, alinsky-inspired, consistent-with, earlier-reports, Group, [...]
You are right about regrouping and coming back there Bookman4FR
Thought we got rid of all this LBJ-Black Panthers-Great Society nonsense… but nooooo…
Here you are back again… (even though this ACORN thing is a set back for you folks)…….
Because our silly instance on playing by the rules (the US Constitution) has facilitated your many comebacks..
But keep in mind from here on out, it is going to be a lot harder…….
Organizing is no longer limited to those folks who do not have 9 to 5 commitments…..
Welcome to the electronic/communication age there RED…. we are all organizers now.
[ Eli's Hammer ] II KINGS 18:27
………."Officer #6 reported that he saw Officer #3 holding the Taser up against the Complainant’s “rear end.” Officer #6 heard Officer #3 tell the Complainant that he was going to tase him in the “asshole” if he didn’t stop fighting. According to Officer #6, this threat seemed to calm the Complainant down.?" (From Boise Ombudsman Report on the Incident)
http://jonathanturley.org/2010/02/15/boise-police...
http://www.boiseombudsman.org/InvestigativeReport...
(the pdf is by an Ombudsman who is an ex-chief of police…best he could do)
Anyway, Acorn f'd up and now they must pay the piper. Meanwhile, the poor take more tasers and bullets at the hands of the Republican swine.
Actually my problem with "progressives" is the totalitarian, facist, Marxist nature which is in direct conflict with the Constitution, specifically Article IV Section 4:
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
When one studies history, the term "progressive" has been used, almost exclusively, by various brands of marxism, both individuals (Stalin, Mao, Castro, Che, Chavez, et. al.) and countries (USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba, et.al.)
JPA…. you are a peach…..
I have paying for a mortgage for the past 30 years that "I didn't want"
I have been paying a tel. bill that………………………………………………………
I have been paying an elec. bill that………………………………………………….
and on and on and on……………………………………………………………………….
Maybe your definition of what is a commitment somewhat different than others,…. but do understand this…….
It is not my responsibility to pay for someone to go register / vote.
Did you poop in your pants again?
#1 WW1 – Democrat Progressive/WW II – Democrat Liberal/Progressive/Korea – Democrat/Vietnam – Democrats
#2 Fully funded for 50 years by mostly Democratic controlled congress.
#3 Obama supported what?
#4 I notice Peanut Boy and Slick didn't seem to mind supporting it. The democratic controlled congress under Nixon could have refused to fund it.
#5 Ohh, yeah. Never happened under Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton. Riiiiiight!
#6 Good idea
#7 Social Security was enacted by who?
#8 FHA was started by who?
Sorry, circle gets the square and you are psychotic. Hey, nice Che T-shirt, tho.
Democrat police officers don't have guns or tasers???
Never noticed that… thanks for the info there hammer head.
All of your snap shots of the classic swimsuit celebraties tend to be beautiful. Realize that you have executed an admirable job accounting for the modern styles for 2010 and beyond. Summer vacation will likely be at this point before most of us know it and also all of us are going to almost all be shopping for bathing suits including the the kind in your new review. Sports Illustrated basically came out with the actual bathing suit edition and also we will just about all be shopping for bikinis such as the bikinis with your actual story.
The vote,…….. the vote…….. it's the vote stupid.
Don't ever stay home again…. even if all you are voting for is for half of the loaf.
We stayed home in 2006 and 2008….
Maybe next………with the new and improved ACORN(s) coming down the pike…….
It won't matter if we stay home.
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Don't worry, Obama and Congress will make sure that ACORN survives in some other form.
Imagine how great the employment numbers and economy would look if all Democrats resigned from Congress and the Administration today!
Please do not call them cockroaches.
That is unfair to the cockroaches, which actually work for their living.
This whole business is disgusting, but is anybody else concerned that this entire report is based on an e-mail that is clearly labeled as confidential? I don't want to see us stoop to their level of corruption and infidelity to our values!
Wow……
the KOsKooLAIdeEXpreSS must be broken down out front..
Quick! Somebody call a Tow Truck and a psychoanalyst.
Uhhhhh, …..BuSh LiEd……uhhhh, people in uhhhh……Sheboygan DieD!
We must fight Obamunism
every second
of every hour
at every step
and twist and turn
otherwise we will all be enslaved on the Democrat Plantation.
“[T]here will be a fight over the narrative of ACORN’s demise,” he writes. The other side wants “a narrative about the corruption of popular organizations and how they are simply vehicles for the personal enrichment and power fantasies of their top staff members while pushing public policies that destroy middle America.”
This quote my Henderson bothers me. Mosty because the policies don't just destroy middle America as is witnessed by the past 2 years, but they oppress the very poor and vulnerable that they are designed to help by trapping them in poverty with no vehicle to get out.
How does getting someone a loan they can't afford or a credit line they can't pay back, or cheating on taxes, or otherwise gaming the system for "entitlements" paid from tax dollars, empower them?
You know what would empower poor people? I do. Work and learning. Learning is free, but you have to have to drive to do it yourself.
We will become 50 small criminal enterprises rather than one giant one. You know what that sounds like? Sounds like La Contra Nostra right after Vito Genevese was jailed. Rather than the Genovese crime family, they became the 5 crime families of New York, or LCN. Acorn will still be scum, just like the Gambino or Lucheses didnt suddenly go legit. Wonder which one Bertha Lewis will head? Wayne Rathke?
Congress should subpoena those servers to see if any crimes were committed while being funded by the American taxpayer.
Never let a crisis go to waste! LOL!
A "bomb thrower"? You mean like Bill Ayers? lol! You've got a lot of nerve trying to pass off your Progressive Movement as "peaceful"! We will fight you in whatever venue you choose: be it verbal, legal, or physical, and we will win.
I will admit that it is refreshing to find a proglib with the guts to admit publicly to playing out of Alinski's Handbook. It not often you meet a real radical who's willing to admit their true nature.
Don't start none…won't BE none. Never assume we won't meet you at your own level.
"The fact is, liberals and conservatives both want big government. Their visions just look a little different from each other. "
This only serves to demonstrate the abysmal depth of your ignorance (or is it willful stupidity?).
indeed.
One could only hope.
Still speaking truth to power there, Spliff? Good for you!
Flame, you've been drinking out of Glenn Beck's baby bottle again. I think he is putting a little Whiskey in it these days!
I used to live in Wisconsin. The home of Progressivism. Look up Robert "Fighting Bob" LaFollette – former US Senator and head of the Wisconsin Progressive Party. Just one example. And this has nothing to do with Stalin, Mao, or Castro.
Cowboy Logic had been trying to peg me. He thought I was a refugee from Daily Kos. Never been there. In fact, the only place I have ever blogged is here. I'm an old school guy checking you folks out. I was trained as a community organizer by someone who was trained personally by Saul David Alinsky. I am a radical. But probably not in the way that you guys think. And for that matter neither was Alinsky. Alinsky was attacked without mercy by the communists and reds of his time. They thought that he was doing reformist crap that would never make any difference. Alinsky never cared about socialism, revolution, or anything like that. What Alinsky cared about was getting poor and working class people more power to get more of what they think they need. That is all there is to it. Anything else is just what you project onto Alinsky (and community organizers) based upon your overall disagreement with even these limited social, political, and economic goals. If you are interested in learning more about the real legacy of Alinsky go to this website:
http://www.piconetwork.org/
http://www.progress.org/alinsky.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Areas_Fou...
Inform yourself.. "The most important lesson of History is that nobody ever learns History's lesson"-Aldous Huxley
BUT… Internet is like where you cant get your pee out of the pool.
Your fallacious response is irrelevant. Because certain Democrats, including the present one, perpetrate the same things does not mean that establishment Republicans do not. Just trying to shed a little light for the misguided ones who believe that simply switching back to the Republicans we endured with Bush Jr. will solve the problem.
See above. Try to get outside that box of yours.
Ad hominem attacks, typical progressive.
You should read history my friend, perhaps it will enlighten your perspective. The term progressive may be the home of progressivism in the USA however the same principles have been used throughout history, specifically by those individuals and countries which I mentioned above. Them and many more "progressives" throughout history and the world with the same result, destruction of Liberty and Freedom for the people.
I'm not surprised in the least that the Communists hated Alinski. For Communists, Communism is the end goal with socialism as a steeping stone to it. Progressives view socialism, communism, marxism, facisism as nothing but vehicles to THEIR ultimate goal of a One World Government.
Alinksi scared the crap out of even the Commies. Even Communists believe in National Sovereignty. I hope by reading this that everyone will see exactly how dangerous useful idiots like you really are! As a proglib, you are the greatest threat to freedom ever to rear it's ugly head, and I will fight you to my last breath with every tool at my disposal.
See below. Pucker up and suck on it.
I would like to thank Ms. Moncrief, Nathan Henderson-James most excellent hire. She’s a person who was reality based, not-narrative based.
+100 SPLIFF_MENENDEZ Now it’s time to get the “progressive” “controlled-narrative” “me-my family-my community” curriculum out of public education and give public school children access to top-of-the-line academic curriculum with actual content. Something young people can use with no strings attached for their own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Thank heavens that the real press has alerted us.
Is this the rose by any other name? Or more like my favorite saying "A t%$# is a t%$#. Rolled in sugar it is just a sugar coated t%$#." Hide as they may, they will be beat with the rule book they proglib by.
So let me get this straight. Your sources are Sanford D. Horwitt. We could spend some time with his take on everything progressive and community organizing. Wikipedia, a community organizing radical should be able to do better. PICO, is that Playbook In Community Organizing. I checked them out, I have read Alinsky. If you follow the rules for radicals, the game is over already.
#1. You are correct. Why anyone would want to protect you, I have no idea.
#2. You are correct. See above.
#3. You are correct. The Democrat-controlled Congress does pass some wacky laws.
#4. You are correct. Drugs ARE good.
#5. You are correct. That's right, because nobody wants to commit domestic terrorism.
#6. You are correct. We should build that fence around your house.
#7. You are correct. Democrat entitlement programs ARE huge, unjust, and terribly inefficient.
#8, You are correct. Because food is an unnecessary crutch.
See, you are right about everything! I now bow to your obviously superior intellect!
It just occurred to me why Proglibs side with the Islamic radicals: they both want global domination! The only problem is that they EACH think they will oust the other when that day comes. They are both wrong. They are each carrying Satan's water for him, and they either don't know it or they don't care.
If I had a wish list, I'd wish for a website that identifies all the "new acorn names" state by state. Would make it so much easier to keep track of the cockroaches…..
Your very goals are antithetical to our Constitution and the American way of life. So long as I breathe, you will be fought. In whatever means necessary to provide for Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Progressive would demand that people be happy with their allotment and their dole and never live free. Better to die first.
This organization has been branded with the corruption marker. It won't matter what they call themselves in the future…… we know who they are. It will be more evident based on their actions rather than a name. I can't wait till they start their canvassing for members or peddling their dreck door-to-door. I have my speech all set for them…..and it ain't gonna be polite!!!! The proverbial gig is up…..game over, fellas!
Look forward to it!
One can only hope it is engaging, and bloody.
ACORN Official: Gangster Group Will Be Bankrupt Soon But Fake Spinoff Groups Will Carry On The Corruption
by Matthew Vadum: Great article, and they have spunoff all ready! As you say, that's how they steal a country from the politically correct. This is how they do it!
ACORN Official: Gangster Group Will Be Bankrupt Soon But Fake Spinoff Groups Will Carry On The Corruption:
I agree and nothing will be done about like they did with the Democratic Party's first partner, the mob! This is bigger then the mob was from the 30's right through the 80's! However, unlike the mob, they(ACORN) have an organized plan to destroy the American economy! The two white guys that started ACORN out of Chicago in the 60's (now in the white house directing things by the way) had a vision of the blacks leading America, not the whites, but they would be the brain trust! Now, that is racist! Charles Mansion in California took off on this movement (remember him?)!
What oh what will poor Barry do without his legions of bogus ACORN vote counterfeiters? This scam is slowly crumbling and it's a beautiful thing to behold. I wonder if Schumer and Waters will attend the funeral? Keep those cameras at the ready.
Instead of hoping, we should clearly show how each new agency is tied directly to ACORN. IOW make sure the stench from the rotten acorn continues with the derivative acorns. An ACORN by any other name is just as rotten.
Seriously, where do you get this crap? "One World Government" – nonsense! Alinsky (spell it right, by the way) cared nothing of world domination. That is the weirdest thing I ever heard. You guys must be on loan from the John Birch Society. Do you believe in the Illuminati conspiracy as well? You guys are seriously nuts.
If this email is authentic, then Nathan is ccing the largest known "listserv" of left wing groups. Townhouse is an organized list serv hosted on google groups that is emailed to major left of center operators such as Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, David Brock, George Soros, and Joshua Micah Marshall.
If this is true then they are just awful at concealing their coordination with left wing allies.
It's interesting that establishment conservatives only notice "big government" when it's something their political enemies want. When conservatives want it, apparently it doesn't count.
• If a conservative wants a trillion-dollar foreign war, that doesn't count.
• If a conservative wants 800 military bases in 130 countries, that doesn't count.
• If a conservative wants a 700-billion-dollar bank bailout, that doesn't count.
• If a conservative wants to spend billions fighting a needless and destructive War on Drugs, that doesn't count.
• If a conservative wants to give the Executive unchecked powers to spy and kill and ignore 4th Amendment rights, that doesn't count.
• If a conservative wants to spend billions building border fences, that doesn't count.
• If a conservative wants to "protect" the huge, unjust, and terribly inefficient Social Security and Medicare programs, that doesn't count.
• If a conservative wants billions in farm subsidies, that doesn't count.
The fact is, liberals and conservatives both want big government. Their visions just look a little different from each other.
Ouch! I must have stuck a nerve! *I'll spell it any way I like. "I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way!"…Mark Twain
Do I "believe in the Illuminati"? If, by Illuminati you mean the Council on Foreign Relations, then yes I do. And it's common knowledge that they are heavily top loaded with rich Proglibs.
Don't bandy words with me, worm. I know you for what you are even if you yourself do not. Goodbye, useful idiot.
I suspect that one of his mommies was Henderson, and his other mommy was Jones. Whoever made him, I'll bet that they're not together anymore.
[ Eli's Hammer ] We don't have democrats here. So the answer is 'no'…they don't. (we are the most republican state in the union–lol, the "Red-est, if u excuse the commie pun. But they are union cops…could be commies if Beck's right. Unions are commie stuff, and cops and firemen are UNION. Sleep with Reds–Get Pinko.
At least these cockroach infestations will still be easily identifiable. When you see words like "alliance, justice, change, empowerment, etc. " in their titles, you will know who they are.
Now that's what I'm talking about. Maybe if these proglibs would take a trip down history lane once in a while, they would understand that they can never win.
How many of them would work themselve into the grave to support five others they don't even know who can but chose not to work. Liberty is about equal opportunities for all, not equal outcome. Stop trying to spread my wealth around. I will pick who I wish support thank you.
I get it.
Because some Republicans screw up, that justifies the Democrats completely trashing the free enterprise system and doing a bunch of other cr@p.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Let's just call it a cat fight, sit back and watch. Based on everything I have read, seen, and heard, they don't know. All they seem to think they know is what is best for me. News flash. God and I have that one covered.
Amen, Brother Noah! My boarding pass for the good ship Rapture has been paid for and confirmed for over 2,000 years. I'm just waiting for the ship to weigh anchor. In the mean time, I'm making productive use of resources while I wait. The in flight movie is supposed to be a real thriller!
America is the Gentiles agreement with God on His decision to Appoint the Israelites as His Chosen People! Eat that, proglib Nazi's!
"It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."…….Emiliano Zapata.
Get the Progs out of Gov't and kill the interference with the market and you have a free market place. Onluy the fool Progs think regulating like mad makes things better.
Spouting the Lib-Prog line there. We've all heard that drivel before. It's no more impressive now than the first gazillion times.
Serving notice to Purple Shirts…
The two clicks you just heard were not from a Zippo lighter.
The SEIU is another criminal organization and will be responded to as such if they show up on my street.
bookman or kookman ;whats wrong with the john birch society ? are you a commie ? if you are , then you are the enemy!!!!!!!!! i hate commies !!!!!!!!!!!
Sad to say it, but you are right!
[...] Crime syndicate ACORN is going bankrupt and will likely fold before the end of the year. Before you break out the champagne, however, it looks like it won’t go completely away. According to one ACORN official: “It is definitely true that over the next week or so we should see a dozen or more organizations launched on the state level by staff who used to work for ACORN and leaders who developed their skills as ACORN members. These are not just simple name changes, but reimaginings of how best to organize low and moderate income constitiuencies [sic] without any of the legal problems and funding issues dogging ACORN, not to mention the brand damage.” [...]
"It will be great when a truly free marketplace exists. Unfortunately, back in the real world, it never will, because a market is the creation of inherently flawed humanity, not godlike intelligence."
But it comes far, far closer to 'right' outcomes, due to millions of individual decisionmakers, than bureucratic central planners, who assume godlike powers without the omnscience.
"Capitalism is the antithesis to Liberty, it requires submission to corporations"
Is of course nonsensical, a sophomoric attempt at deflection: a Pee Wee Herman retort. Capitalism requires nothing of the sort.
If that is true….then I am in good company as a "Red" – Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Obama. We all believe that the US Government can provide social benefits to its people. And that is why we created Social Security, Wage and Hour Laws, Medicare, the GI Bill, FHA Loans, Federally Guaranteed Student Loans, and many other programs that benefit the middle class as well as the poor.
I know where I stand. And I know my principles and I know who I stand with.
The Birch Society are the kooks! William F. Buckley and Barry Goldwater kicked the Birch Society out of the conservative movement. Now the Birch Society kooks have been let back in. I think that when the American People find out what kind of kooks the Right is in bed with they will change their mind about CPAC, Glenn Beck, and some other things as well.
The Birch Society thought that President Eisenhower was a conscious member of the Communist Conspiracy. These people are nuts. Just like the Lyndon LaRouche People.
You, Tea Party folks, have let all the idiot kooks in.
You left off a few- like Wilson, Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao and Castro.
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> that benefit the middle class as well as the poor.
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Until such time as they bankrupt us all. Sooner or later you run out of
other people's money, as California, Greece and Spain are learning the
hard way.
Yes, Reds take very seriously the fine distinctions between Leninists, Trotskyites, Maoists, Syndicalists yadda yadda yadda. Sort of like pig breeders focus on the differences between Hampshires, Berkshires and Red Wattles: but they're still all pigs. After all, can't go mixing up the Judean People's Front with the People's Front of Judea, can we?
"What Alinsky cared about was getting poor and working class people more power to get more of what they think they need". Right. The basic philosophy of "to each according to his needs:" i.e. the philosophy of taking rather than earning. Sorry, pal, you're already across the Red Rubicon.
and you dont think van jones or obama or even the democrats arent just communist them selves ? iv been trolling on lefty sites and they are alll communist or socialist so dont tell me its a conspiracy it is fact ive seen it myself on many pro obama sites , plus the naacp just admited that MLK is and was a radical socialist / communist which is what the john birch society been saying all along . do some home work , the naacp are commie loving pigs
[...] ACORN Official: Gangster Group will Be Bankrupt Soon, But Fake Spinoff Group Will Carry On The Corru… [...]
Alinsky was not about "getting poor and working class people more power to get more of what they think they need". He was about about using their frustrations with their living situaion that was self created to manipulate them into thinking it was all because of the rich. When it was no fault, but their own. Everybody has a chance to make it in the U.S. Some have a head start, but anybody can be wealthy or poor in our country. The CHOICE is theirs to make.
[...] rebranding effort is a sham, according to ACORN official Nathan Henderson-James. [...]
Very good..keep it up
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[...] A leaked email from ACORN’s online director suggests ACORN will probably run out of money and fold by year’s end but a dozen ACORN state chapters reincorporated to seem like new, independent organizations will spring up in coming days to carry on ACORN’s business. [...]
[...] will be critical to watch where the brains of the organization land. An e-mail from Nathan Henderson-James, ACORN’s internet guru explained: ACORN will be around for a few more months for sure and [...]
[...] online director, explained ACORN’s latest con in an email. In the Feb. 22 email Henderson-James wrote that ACORN was in its death throes and that a dozen ACORN state chapters reincorporated to seem [...]
Acorn & Alinsky, they must be fans of Karl Marx, Anton Levay, Alice Bailey, Alister Crowley, Albert Pike, Nathan Bedford Forrest, Lenin, Stalin, Pohl Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Adolph HItler, Judas Iscariot and Benedict Arnold! Their goals and methods seem to be in line with them. They are slick,sly, decietful and insidious. It is amazing with all the computer literacy the lack of desire to go back to first causes and see what genuinely is true of a thing. It's bad enough with the richest people on earth financing our ruin but having people in the "church" help greatly to finance their demise and or apostacy boggles the mind and is quite contemptable! Time for waking up, smelling the coffee and getting with what is truely right. God's Word is truth and the measure of all things, not what some comradski says it means!
[...] sources’ comments echo the leaked email from full-time ACORN cyber-agitator Nathan Henderson-James who confirmed the whole thing’s a big [...]
[...] now New England United for Justice. NEUJ doesn’t have a website yet, but they are reportedly headed up by Maud Hurd, ACORN’s former national president who has credited herself with “saving [...]
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[...] a fantastically amazing coincidence, ACORN online propagandist Nathan Henderson-James, who is paid by ACORN to protect (what’s [...]
[...] Henderson-James, director of ACORN’s online campaigns, already admitted ACORN isn’t really going [...]
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[...] will be a fight over the narrative of ACORN’s demise,” he wrote to members of Townhouse, a discussion forum run by Matt Stoller, senior policy adviser to Rep. Alan [...]
[...] will be a fight over the narrative of ACORN’s demise,” he wrote to members of Townhouse, a discussion forum run by Matt Stoller, senior policy adviser to Rep. Alan [...]
[...] effort was about to begin. “[T]here will be a fight over the narrative of ACORN’s demise,” he wrote to members of Townhouse, a discussion forum run by Matt Stoller, senior policy adviser to Rep. Alan [...]
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